Hey Trumpfags, your fearless leader has flipped yet again. Few days ago, he said he's suddenly in favor of raising minimum wage. Now he's saying he wants to raise taxes on the rich. What's next, no more wall?
Go ahead trumpfags, explain to me how he's "telling it how it is".
>Protip: show us your trump-hurt
Donald Trump, you are a gangster and which supports your chair, smell like sulfur I vote for those that never chose the easy path of history, i vote for Martin Luther King, i vote for David Dellinger, i vote for Sean Eldridge, i vote for Rosa Parks and for Eleanor Smeal, i vote for Nelson Mandela, I VOTE HILLARY.
Trump could get a willing enema from rough anal trap sex on national television and I'd still vote for him.
It's not what Trump is gonna do, dipshit.
IT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
It's time to clean up your mess.
what's wrong with wanting to tax the rich? also more minimum wages? even better. He is securing the next 8 years
Hes flipped flopped before he ever ran for potus. The fuckers a loose cannon. anyone that cant see this is a complete idiot.
I dont want her to win but I guarantee my entire life on one thing. Shes going to win potus
Im voting gary johnson btw
No. I'm fairly certain I've seen more elections than most of the people who lurk here. Just pointing something out: you trumpfags can't stop talking about how he's an outside the mainstream figure who tells it how it is. But we all can see now that he's playing politics. So what differentiates him from someone like Hillary.
No one cares. As long as he stops the ridiculous foreign aid, trade imbalance, and the border--we will still vote for him.
Only a minority and a self hating white cuck would vote against Trump.
Libertarian don't wnt to regulate corporations - that should work out great.
lol. Democrats are comprised almost entirely of blacks, latinos, women, and cuck white men.
How could you possibly think they're smarter.. when every element of their party is low IQ, except for perhaps the white cucks?
I know, I know.. "but this study says so!".
You're so stupid lol!
Im not helping anyone. I dont like anything hillary stands for and likewise I dont like anything trump stands for.
With the minor no issue differences like bathroom rights at private businesses they are essentially the same asshole.
They both will continue with the wars, the nsa will still chug along, the military industrial complex will leech off our wallets, the corporations will still get their handouts, etc......
they are the same fucking thing.
iv already accepted iv lost to one of the two failures. So me voting for my values will lose reguardless. Iv no fear of losing as iv already fucking lost.
I hold my values for freedom high and will vote for my values. You idiots can pick the lesser of the two evils and then complain you had no choice for the next 8 years, Ill vote for my values and know its because of your failures that were stuck in this garbage two party game.
Wtf are you talking about
Obama was and is good.
1. Announced Unequivocal End to Torture, Ordered the Closing of Guantanamo and the Closing of Secret Prisons.
2. Improved Relations with Iran.
3. Improved U.S. Policy on Climate Change.
4.Improved Relations with Russia.
5.Made the Rights of Women around the World a Core Component of U.S. Foreign Policy:
6.Improved Relations with the Islamic World.
7. Made Progress towards Greater Cooperation on Limiting Nuclear Proliferation.
I'm no great fan of Trump, but he's the lesser of two evils in this election. Hillary has no integrity. She's a criminal and career politician that stayed married to a known sexual predator. There is nothing about her that would be good for this country.
Yes, my roads because libertarians hate roads???
Lets get our facts together
I theory libertarianism looks great, In practice its superior.
Your left right ideals have failed(look at the national debt) and are tyrannical
implying either clinton or trump stand for anything different other then non issues.
Muh bedroom rights are at stake! OH NO!
He's against the federal minimum wage and would like to see states have power over that. He is in support of State's rights on many issues.
He's always been in favor on 'higher' taxes on the rich. The main reason being he wants to close all the loopholes and loose ends that the rich use to pay way less than they are supposed to.
>The Trump tax cuts are fully paid for by:
>Reducing or eliminating most deductions and loopholes available to the very rich.
>A one-time deemed repatriation of corporate cash held overseas at a significantly discounted 10% tax rate, followed by an end to the deferral of taxes on corporate income earned abroad.
>Reducing or eliminating corporate loopholes that cater to special interests, as well as deductions made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rate on corporations and business income. We will also phase in a reasonable cap on the deductibility of business interest expenses.
OP is underage.
Everyone says the "muhroads" because its makes a mockery of certain extreme views that border on anarchism. They are threatened because libertarianism threatens their precious democratic socialism that is so stylish.
Trump panders to the uneducated conservative people who cannot adjust to the social changes our country is facing like letting gays get married.
Building a wall is technically feasible, but it won't solve anything since most illegals came legally and never left when their visas expired.
Drugs don't generally come over the Mexican border, they come through our ports.
Building a wall is such a simple idea to sell to people who don't have the interest, time or ability to understand the entirety of the issue. It's about as stupid and simplistic an idea could be while still sounding somewhat sensible.
He constantly "otherizes" people and blatantly lies to rally people around him. Just recently he accused Ted cruz's father of knowing lee Harvey Oswald and possibly being involved in the Kennedy assassination, and he cited the national inquirer as a source (a fake gossip tabloid).
Remember the birther phenomenon? That was pandering. Now he's accusing Hillary of starting it, again pandering.
He used to be pro choice and pro universal healthcare, which, now that he's suddenly a republican he's against.
He claims to have been a prophet, suggesting that he singlehandedly warned the American people of Osama bin ladens danger to the United States, although he wrote of that in 2000, after the embassy bombing and World Trade Center bombings had been definitively linked to Osama. Again, he's stretching the truth to pander to the same crowd.
On cinco de mayo he posted a picture of him eating a taco bowl on Twitter saying he loves Hispanics.
All I hear is "im afraid of competition" from both sides of the isle.
How about you both(left and righties) stop being pussies. You're both looking to have the government rig the game in your favor. You're both looking like a bunch of weak nancies from my vantage.
We the people gave money to the government and they bailed the failed corporations.
Yes lets give more support for the government. I never understand you left wing nuts.
Not the point at all
The point is YOU SUPPORT TYRANNY LEFT WING OR RIGHT WING
He's doing exactly what he wrote on his website from the beginning you fucking mong.
For people earning less than 25k and 50k combined with two people. They pay ZERO in taxes.
>Newfag/CommieLiberal was too stupid to read his positions and got all his news from MSNBC and Huffpo
Stop blaming others (rich people, illegal immigrants etc) for your own shortcomings. You're no better than a nignog with an inflated sense of entitlement. Get off your dead ass and up your game if you think you're worthy of a higher standard of living. Stop waiting for a knight-in-shining-nanny-government-armor politician to better your life for you.
You trumpfags are all a bunch of overly sensitive, delicate, cry baby bitches who are being outdone by peasants from south of the border who don't even speak English. Keep showing us your trump-hurt.
Wait wait, STOP THE WORLD. Are you trying to tell us that a politician is licking ass and trying to get everyone to see them favorably? Are you trying to tell us that this politician is ignoring facts, previous positions they've taken, and cherry-picking "scientific" research??
Let me hold my breath whilst I wait for the surprise and outrage.
He's trying to get Bernie voters. >>683306920
He's taking donations now because he self funded his primaries, they can't control him, they can only choose to support him over Clinton.
>Shut down a military captivity base that didn't need to be shut down
>Gave nuclear power to a country that has said time and time again that they want to wipe Israel off the map, known for how imperialistic and radical they are
>He's a weak ass mother fucker who told Putin not to cross a line in the Ukraine, when Putin crossed it he didn't do shit we got cucked and they got land
>"Made rights of women a requirement for foreign policy" but "he improved relations with Iran" so fuck that bull shit
>Improved relations with a part of the world that he took part in destabilizing instead of letting recover after Iraq and afghanistan
>took troops out Iraq way to quickly giving rise to ISIS
Hes been great!
As freelance I had to give up $700 bucks to the insurance companies because you idiots want more government intervention. I only made 20k the entire year.
$4k federal tax
$700 health care
$500 state tax
thanks obama, I sure hope the transsexuals get bathroom rights soon. This federal issue needs to be solved soon before I go broke.
I understand that he means to appeal to liberals, but even if, he might just stand by his plans once he is elected. And if we're lucky, he'll legalize marijuana. Not half bad, for a republican.
I don't understand why everyone freaks out when a politician changes his stance. It's OK to change you mind based on new information or a new understating of old information. It's called growth faggot but you don't know about that.
> high school type slander
> baby first election
> that sort of thing
Trump is a god like flip flopper, changes his views hourly. But his supporters are too retard to know that this likely means he doesn't actually believe the shit he says and is most certainly not telling it how it is but how he thinks his fanbase wants to hear
I trust a politician before a businessman
Which honeslty is the only reason id consider trump is his tax policy. Other then that tho trumps a fucking nut case and cannot be trusted.
One week in office he would have us in a war against mexico, china, russia and who knows who else. You better bet your taxes would then go up.
Coming from a guy supporting a man who chimps out on twitter nearly daily. Lmfao. Trump is this most childish candidate ever and his supporters are even more childish.
The correct way to stop ISIS is to commit war crimes and kill unarmed civilians
why would you vote for someone who helps child rapists?
>I don't understand why everyone freaks out when a politician changes his stance
No one cares. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of the average trumpfags who can't unwrap their collective lips from trumps dick long enough to realize that he's just another opportunistic politician like the rest. All that "outside the mainstream tell-it-like-it-is" stuff is bullshit.
So what exactly do you like about him? Be specific.
protits: drooling children are unable to be specific
Heh. You still don't get it do you? It was never about the policies. It was always about the memes. We are going to meme our meme God into the white house whether you like it or not.
I personally support freedom of choice among currencies. For instance digital currencies seem interesting. Other notes should also be allowed to be used as currency. essentially freedom of choice is best in my opinion.
Having gold as the only currency obviously allows room for monopolizing of the currency. Like wise having a centralized bank that only allows you the freedom to use one currency allows for monopolizing of their system.
Gold has intrinsic value which allows for a more stable system overall. Bubbles dont happen with gold like they do with fiat currencies. With the current fiat system if and when people decide they no longer have trust in the system based on trust it will simply just fall apart. other systems will take over and it just so happens gold is one of the systems that will continue to hold value even after a system of trust is gone.
Im a novice in financial and economic matters but these are my two cents.
I was raped by Hillary and I can probably get like 10 witnesses to support it.
I like his stance on foreign affairs
> fuck nato
> fuck free trade
> fuck Israel
I like his stance on immigration
> fuck illegals
> FUCK Muslims
> FUCK MUSLIMS
I like his stance on work and equality
> fuck neets
> fuck lazy people
> you get what you work for
> fuck minority groups were all American
Regardless I don't support any other trumps issues other then his tax policy.
I don't support the nsa, tsa, intervention of international conflicts, I don't support foreign aid to allies or enemies, I don't support turning the country into a damned prison(not afraid of illegals taking my job), I don't support drug wars, I don't support any of it.
Not to mention hes a flip flopper and has done so numerous times. One day he supports universal healthcare and the next day he doesn't. He has clear signs of being a sociopath and that isn't a leader id enjoy having. He cant be trusted.
Also, im not a kid. im a 35 year old man. So unless you're older then me please refrain from calling me a kid again.
>you must be a liberal
Nope. I outgrew the whole idiotic idea of thinking you have to be one of only two convenient umbrellas (conservative, liberal) when it comes to politics.
When you gonna grow up and stop having your bullshit opinions fed to you like a baby?
Keep flaunting your trump-burt. It's fun to watch.
I dont support universal healthcare, just pointing out he flip flops
Exactly. That's the point. While many people may agree with trumps stated positions, we know now that hes just saying what people wanna hear at any given time. He ain't gonna deliver. He's a very convenient vehicle to vent the publics anger through rhetoric but without effecting any actual change.
You should support universal healthcare. It isn't fair that you have enough money to pay for your hospital bills just because you have money. I can't control the amount of money I make. Even Trump has the right idea. Spread the money among everyone!!!
It was on topic.
Regardless to your response, im not voting for tump because other then what he has laid out with his tax policy I don't support it. He has picked numerous fights with other countries and he isn't even in office yet.
I perceive him as a loose cannon and can imagine him getting us into more conflicts then were already in.
Also, don't forget who got us into the current conflict with the entire middle east. cough cough REPUBLICANS
I know what you're thinking 5 people who lived in the middle east attacked us. so we had to destroy and over throw the entire middle east. Thats equivalent to your next door neighbors family killing some people in the UK so they decide to overthrow the entire US, Canada, Mexico, Cuba, and south America because of 5 peoples actions.
Bernie will be Hilary's vice president. It's already in the works. He was asked about it yesterday and said he will make sure the democratic platform is progressive and will work with Clinton to ensure that. Today on meet the press she said she wants his supporters to feel represented by the democratic ticket to promote the progressive agenda in congress, and that she wants to work with him to accomplish that.
Don't be suprised when we have Clinton/sanders in office next year.
least he's not Hillary
onre of Hilary's super packs are even paying millions for people to go out to Facebook, twitter , 4chan etc.. and push back against trump and those attacking Hillary
PAID to shill for Hillary and attack trump
gee I wonder who is behind ops post
>Implying theyre any different
Yes im one of the shillary bots you fucking retard.
No im a citizen that doesnt like paying taxes. Im also a citizen that doesnt like having the government up my asshole every second of the day.
I perceive trump and Hillary as two of the same. They have different opinions on issues but BOTH WANT GOVERNMENT TO BE INVOLVED
Yeah we don't fucking need air or water. Fuck that pussy shit amirite??? Do you not understand how massive the scale of industrial waste is? We're fucking coated in poison slime even with them around. Makes 0 sense, unless you want to die but are too much of a coward to do it yourself and want it to be slow and horrible and take us all with you
Hard work is met with exploitation, not reward. The bottom rung of employment has rotted through, I know it's been a long time since you had to experience that stuff but things change.
The EPA is corrupt, Im not sure trumps position on it but as a libertarian.
at the outset of the industrial revolution it was deemed that air pollution does not constitute trespass. We would like that ruling reversed.
Basically, if pollution was consistently considered property damage and trespass, then in simply protecting property rights you end up protecting the environment.
For instance, say a mega-corporation buys lake Michigan—the whole thing. Can they pollute it at will? If they did, they would have to worry about the owners of shoreline property, the owners of Lake Huron, the Canadian government, the owners of the Saint Claire River, the owners of Lake Saint Claire, the owners of the Detroit River, the owners of Lake Erie, the owners of the Niagra River, the owners of Lake Ontario, and the owners of the Saint Lawrence River.
See where this is going? That is many more layers of protection, and many more intensely interested parties than just the EPA and the Coast Guard.
>You little fucks
I'm probably older then you, you're just being a tool. I learned this when I was a child, but calling someone names doesn't make you right no matter how hard you try.
In the US, the logging industry is self-sustaining because they own the land they log. They replant trees and rotate the acres of land they harvest because this is a sustainable business plan. Whipping out a forest completely is not sustainable and only happens when there is no ownership.
Now Trump is agreeing with what Bernie Sanders said. He is a democrat in disguise. He already sold you out to the Hillary Clinton establishment the moment you decided to vote for him. Congratulations on this wealthy billionaire fuckwit who has no political experience at all fooling you by telling you what you want to hear and doing the exact opposite.
She basically already does. He has roughly 50% support of the Democratic Party, he's not going to wither away back to Vermont and let trump become president. He's already said he's going to continue to campaign against trump and try to unite the party.
He gets asked the vp question about it yesterday and deflects it:
You think the EPA isnt corrput and cant be bought off?
Local Communities would be able to take direct action against polluters. Lets say a corporation pollutes a river that flows next to a small town. The town (IE local community) would be able to take direct action. First they can ask the company to stop polluting or change things but if worse comes to worse the local community can use pitch forks and touches. IE use direct force though violence. Polluting one's resources and a serious infringement against someone's rights.
Also non profit polluter watching organizations would replace the EPA. There are plenty of people out there who are concern with the environment who are willing to put their own time and effort in making it better. So these organizations would be the watch dogs and let local communities know of what is happening here and there. Also corporations would probably cooperate with them to get their stamp of approval thereby making themselves look better to the public.
Reputation would be a bigger thing in a stateless society. So a company would look bad and less appealing to the public if they polluted a lake or something that belong to a small town.
Another point. Remember what happened with BP gulf oil spill? Well it was the federal government who told BP to drill at 5000ft deep. Originally BP was going to drill at 500ft deep and they already got approved from the city and state to drill in shallower waters. If BP had drill at 500 feet deep the accident wouldnt happened.
Anyways today corporations can get away with a lot of things because the government protects them. Even worst our own governments are the biggest killers. They pollute the world with wars and with throwing people in jail. And who is to watch the government when the government does a bad job of things?
"sure kid" the retard said yet again, frothing at the mouth and clapping wildly. He was sure after spending so much time on this masterpiece that his Magnum Opus would have dramatic effect.
you are, you can't deny it. you response was one of fear and emotion not actual fact. you probably don't even know hoe the EPA works or how its policy's effect every day life.
Im curious to hear how the EPA has done more to curb pollution than would have been done without it. Ie. what was the rate of decline of pollution prior to the establishment of the EPA and what has been the statistically significant contribution of the EPA to the continued decline after it was established.
The fact that the agency exists does not justify its existence
True, but my parents-parents-parent's were congressmen and senators and very prosperous, not because of work, but because of timing. Something changed to make things hard for them, so why not change things so it can be easy again?
The EPA sets limits, but the punishment for breaking the limits is a fine. So you can simply just pay to pollute as much as you want. The limits also keep smaller sized industry from being able to compete with the larger corporations since this is a market entry barrier. In addition, the large corporations buy favorable regulation from the EPA and the government via lobbying, bribery, kick-backs, and political favors.
Here it is guys!!!!!!
The one and only time youll see a libtard defending one of Nixon's policies
Yea and I chime in now and then to rile up the partisans.
I submit to you that the amount of pollutant being emitted into the atmosphere is as high or higher than it would be without regulation* government regulation, but in the meantime, the EPA has created an oligopoly, limited the market, stiffed innovation, given subsides to political friends, and caused prices for our products to be higher as a result of the costly adherence to these (sometimes arbitrary) regulations.
Youre literally linking blogs as sources.
Which should have been caught by the epa. At least in an ideal world that would be part of their job.
I'm pretty sure they (some epa people at least) knew it was going on and allegedly didn't try to do much of anything.
Tomorrow, he is going to say he is gonna bomb your nigger asses over there in shitstan. Then he is gonna change his mind on Tuesday and we are still gonna vote for him. So fuck you.
The problem is Chinese government protects that behavior. I'm sure the people don't enjoy not being able to breath. I sure the hired guns in the government enforce the right for that behavior.
I'm just curious. Do you now how pencils are made? If you were given wood, plastic, graphite, ink, metal and rubber, could you make a box of pencils? I only ask because you seem to be perfectly fine letting pencils (and 99% of everything else on earth) be made in a free market without any government regulation, and the free market does a damn good job at it. Why do you need to know exactly how this industry would work? I trust that when there is a market for something, a real demand, industry will provide a solution. Whenever there is a need, or a demand, there is an opportunity for profit. When there is an opportunity for profit, entrepreneurs will step in and invest. This is how the world works. The only thing a government can ever do is stifle a market. They cannot expand a market beyond existing demand or grant additional freedom beyond natural freedom, they can only subtract productiveness, subtract freedom, and subtract efficiencies.