Is it bad to jack off?
i understand how porn can fuck up your brain and make you view women as just objects so im stopping that...but is masturbating in general bad for you? I just feel so dirty and lame afterwards because I cant be with a girl and have to resort to myself.
Jacking off keeps some guys from doing perverted things or even rape.
You make be like "no way, thats stupid"
But is is true. Once I jerk off a MASSIVE LOAD i don't have pervy thoughts for the rest of the day.
Masturbating is good for you, reduces the risk of prostate cancer. But doing it too much, especially with porn, can desensitize you to real women and make it harder to perform well/get hard during real sex
As this guy said, Porn Addiction is the problem.
I don't believe it to a hard-extent, but a TEDx talk mentioned something about a Reward response that would damage the sexual performance in later life If rapid and extended use was a factor.
>Yes, I'm a TEDfag.
Honestly jacking off is bet. I suggest watching the ted talk about it.
The tl;dr version of it is that it literally kills your drive, in almost every area of life. We are essentially hard wired mentally to believe that sex is the best thing that can happen to us, since it leads to keeping our genes alive. Everything that we do (working out, having a job, going to school) is ultimately for sex. You take away the desire for sex and you replace it with an easier way to achieve the sensation, and it transfers over to all areas of life.
With all of that being said, I do that shit all the time.
no, it isn't
source, hentai addict
long as you don't overexert your libido to the point where you can't go a few hours without fapping, you're good.
It really all depends what you're jerking it to. If you fap to vanilla, plain old sex, it won't really do any harm. If you fap to bdsm trap anime or some bullshit like that then you will have a problem getting it up for real women.
its not bad for you. its actually good cuz it relieves stress n shit. if you stop for a prolonged period, your body literally shuts down testosterone production and makes you a lazy energyless sack of shit
on the flipside though, if you become addicted, you do fuck your brain up. you start losing will to do anything as someone already stated. it especially kills your drive to talk to women. i know as soon as i take a break from it, all of a sudden i have mad confidence to talk to girls and socialize. its a double edged sword anon
but it's true. porn does make you view women as just objects as it did with me but who cares.. they are just hot fucking objects who don't serve much purpose for anything else (i.e. why the fuck would you have a female as a friend?).
It sucks that it's so hard to find a girl who is just into sex and no stupid marriage, long relationship thing. To me, women are like a fancy hot toy.
>be white male
>addicted to watching white girls fuck bbc
>disgusted by this fetish yet hard to stop
>Honestly there are women you'd be more of a loser by fucking them just saying
There's too many feral fucking guys out there who will fuck any obese bitch or basically any nasty looking women.
Society is going to the dogs because porn does fuck your brain up to a certain degree in the sense it keeps making you want to jerk off than be productive. Not to mention once you leave the confines of your cave you start becoming feral yourself, chasing after any bitch with a vagina so that you may experience the release of chemicals in your brain when you orgasm with a women instead of your hand.
Basically porn is bad for you because during an orgasm, the lateral orbitofrontal cortex the brain region behind the left eye shuts down during an orgasm. This region is considered to be the voice of reason and controls behavior. The brain of both a man and woman is said to look much like the brain of a person taking heroin during an orgasm,
>tl:dr too much porn makes you into a crank addict looking to bust a nuts for a high
>Makes you into a junkie if you can't control yourself
>eventually too much porn makes you lose control anyways
yes this is true. not a raping spree but constantly looking up images etc it will make you.
But if you fap every day, you are stopping yourself from lurking "further" into the more hardcore stuff.
Because as soon as you cum, your mind is no longer interested in sex for a short while.
Think of it like a monster: it is getting its daily food so it doesn't go out and harm others.
Would usually make a joke about being edgy, but this is too true.
It is. what else do women serve as a purpose for men?
There is no way a male can have a hot female as his friend without wanting to bang them.
Hot females are like pricey toys: you spend money to use them like you would with a prostitute.
Marriage is the most pointless stupid thing being stuck with the same women who you begin to hate and wanna go out and bang younger 20 year olds after a while.
>Not to mention once you leave the confines of your cave you start becoming feral yourself, chasing after any bitch with a vagina so that you may experience the release of chemicals in your brain when you orgasm with a women instead of your hand.
This literally does not apply to me. If anything porn has made me even more grossed out when I see disgusting ugly women. Epsecially fat landwhales that need to diet. Porn is full of beautiful women so it feels like a serious downgrade even conversation with an ugly woman.
help me out: I suffer from premature ejaculation.
is this due to over masturbating?
It takes me literally 20 seconds to cum most times.
I think over masturbating to facebook pics everyday has damaged m.
>fuck my lonely anti social life
No anon it isn't ever going to stop. I have been jerking off to this porn for 10 years now because it is so hot and makes me cum the hardest. The orgasms feel too good to stop.
I get guilt because it feels like I'm watching softer form of bestiality. I love it when the white girl gets roughed up to.
>I get guilt because it feels like I'm watching softer form of bestiality.
you mean like pretending that the black man fucking her is a wild animal?
fuck i love imagining that when seeing a nigger fuck a hot pure white chick.
check this white chick being fucked anon.
I luv it
I went to SA, (sexaholics anonymous) for my addiction to porn. I went to meetings for about 9 months and then my work schedule got crazy. I haven't jacked it for over a year and the sex with my wife is better than it used to be.
wish we lived in a world where we didnt have social boundaries and you could just go up to a girl and ask her if she wanted to fuck right then and there and theyd answer truthfully without playing games n shit. would be so much easier and everyone would be happier
>If you're an autist with no social skills and afraid to go outside, sure.
this is exactly me though.
fapping to porn is all I got. sexy women scare me
Yes pretty much. It's also why I love it most when the girl gets roughed up by a group of niggers.
It makes me so hard but I still feel so disgusted by it. These girls are too pretty to be doing this. Damn that girl you posted is so cute.
Well its not really bad so to say. Suppose it could lower test levels slightly.
Jesus fucking Christ dude. Don't say "this is what porn does to you" when you've actually got issues, dude. Porn doesn't do this to normal people. I'm sorry about the issues you face daily and hope you overcome it.
Is he fucking her in the pussy or ass? Because one of my favorites is seeing a nigger fuck the white girl in the ass and making her go ass to mouth. Especially when she goes balls deep and gags.
>porn can make you view women as objects
You've either been raised by a single mother, or you've been spending too much time on tumblr.
Your worldviews aren't going to be changed by porn unless you were already fucking autistic.
the flaw with this post is not recognizing that the same processes go on, whether porn is involved or not. feeling good makes you want to feel good. getting to know you body and what a great orgasm feels like is fantastic. if you've got people to do it with - great. if not, have a good wank. god made you so that "the lateral orbitofrontal cortex the brain region behind the left eye shuts down during an orgasm" . its our destiny. so get high, get off, get shit done. addicts let the machinery be in charge. fuck that.
once your prospect pool dries up, shit fucking sucks. getting laid is a whole scheme of planting seeds, waiting for said seeds to sprout, then harvesting seeds and in between riding your confidence boost and landing random prospects. once the well dries, getting back on the horse is hard as fuck. and fapping just makes it even harder because you lose your will. but then on the flipside, bitches can sense when a guy isnt getting laid and avoid them like the plague. so youre pretty much fucked either way, and not in the good way
can you imagine how horny these black apes get when seeing a hot white innocent girl? as soon as their cock goes inside one they must turn into the meanest beasts
turns useful stress into something postive (all stress is negative), we have a natural amount at the start of the day to help us wake up from our dmt drug induced coma of dreaming sleep. good wean off with a morning jack into the day, bit of exercise, release, closure on all those dreams of girls you will never ever touch...
Honestly, I haven't fully figured it out yet. But from my research I believe the key is to living a balanced life style for the average person. You ever remember those days where you were too busy but enjoying yourself in a hobby or work that wasn't jacking off? This is how we start balancing. Hobbies that interest us more than jacking off. It's going to be tough, but find something you actually enjoy and concentrate on that. Get your high from immersing yourself in that. It's far better knowing you actually did something constructive and useful than relapsing to jacking off 6 times a day.
I've started researching celibacy, as to how can someone achieve this without having the urges. Great inventors like Nikola Tesla was celibate his entire life and owed his great genius to it.
>Staying celibate nourishes the mind and awakens a state of euphoria and serenity like that no one has truly experienced in their life.
>Must wait a few months of no masturbation to start feeling this way
>Makes you smarter and more aware
I'm going to try this.
My dear boy. I used to be like you. Soon you will find yourself craving orgasms more and more to the point where you can no longer sustain your highs from "beautiful women". Desensitization is a curse. You will seek something more hardcore, more fowl, as the shock of "how could I have fapped to this, it's disgusting, I hate myself" will be your next high.
>Enjoy the slippy slop
>You'll become just like us eventually.
>Welcome to Hell.
Sauce: Priya Rai blowing Billy Glide at Big Tits Boss
you are wrong. I used to be an anti rape spokesman, strongly hated any form of porn or any hardcore porn abuse.
as soon as I found porn and watched lots of hardcore stuff; this entierely changed me as all my positive beliefs of women went away and as I imagined myself fucking hot women every night and day, viewing them as just objects.
Porn did this to me whilst before my addiction I was completely a saint.
I'm actually really curious about this. I guess I should do some googling.
Just my experience, I watch porn every time I masturbate. I can't orgasm during sex, and even when I'm being touched. I also can't get myself off without vibrations. I also have a hard time getting turned on with my partner, unless we're in a position where I can see everything they are doing to me.
I'm not sure if that's just me or if my brain has become to used to the visual stimulation over physical stimulation.
Maybe I need a mirror.
why? I like to pretend I am a nigger fucking hot white pussy with a group of mates.
hell I wish I knew a group of blacks who I could film them fucking white girls
You posting this only makes me realize even more how degenerate and hot that porn really is. It makes so many of you guys angry because you people find it so morally wrong. Hence the reason it is still taboo.
no it didnt.
being older than 15 did this to you.
you have a body and desires: its ok. In fact, its good. its simple: dont treat people like shit. i have solved your problem. if you think looking at a woman on the street is going to make her feel bad, dont do it. easy. if you think you can look at someone, admire their attractiveness, want to put them over you knee, spank them and fuck them doggy style and manage to not look lecherous, then cool. you are normal. woman friends are great. lovingly fucking someone is great. selfishly fucking someone is also great. lucky if you can manage it all with the same person.
mfw more and more white boys are turning into bbc obsessed cock suckers (like I am)
Don't worry OP. I've been dating a girl for two years and I masturbate far more than I have sex with her. We haven't had sex in at least two months. We've done it once or twice in 2016. I'm 23, she's 25.
I didn't cum for two weeks once because I was traveling and then GF was traveling.
I got a prostate infection.
Unless you're getting laid at least every other day, don't stop jacking off, take it from me :(
But yeah, don't get too into porn. The real deal is better.
how couldn't you not love seeing BBC inside a pure white?
>anons who have gfs
>not wanting to fuck a white chick while she has a nigga cock inside of her
I stopped jerking it as often as I did before and now my balls hurt randomly
Am I going to die ?
>porn can make you view women as objects
No, only you can make yourself view anything as anything. You can be influenced however. Either way, humans are just objects. If everyone gave everyone some sort of significance, then we would be in the stone ages making sure we tread lightly and don't hurt each other's feelings by not acknowledging that they are all individuals with feelings and genders and opinions that no one truly cares about. People are just vessels, a means to an end. A clerk to ring you up, a waiter to take your order, a mechanic to fix your car. Treat them like a human but they are there for a purpose. A pornstar is there to please you, not for you to compliment and learn about her interests and dreams. Human is a noun, an object. We are not our own class. If you happen to actually care about someone, then you respect them. And 'objectifying' someone's ass or tits or legs or shoulders doesn't mean that person is being objectified, just the body part. And it doesn't even mean that else whenever someone says "nice shoes" or "I love your hair", that's objectification. SJWs can fucking die. You can't unteach stupid.
>porn can fuck up your brain and make you view women as just objects
No dude, it can't. You'd have to cut off all contact with women outside of porn to do that. You'd have to have no other way to know what women are like, and even then it would be difficult.
Anon is right. Nothing wrong with cranking your pud couple times a week. But if you can't jack it with your imagination alone, might wanna take a step back and ask yourself how dependent you are on porn
people can be porn addicted. but where the line gets drawn is pretty fuzzy. if you have a lot of free time by yourself and you beat off a lot cause your fucking bored it doesn't seem very troubling.
If you have to sneak into the bathroom at work to rub one out two times a week you would definitely want to try to tone it down or get some help.
There's no point is feeling bad about masturbating unless your being weird about masturbating.
I mean, people are people. Just cuz you want to bang them, doesn't mean you have to be a cancerous basement dweller whose only thoughts are of sex. Hell, I have antisocial personality disorder and even I understand that people can have connections with others, beyond simple sexual stimulation. Goddamn
Aren't comedians supposed to stretch the truth?
Also I read somewhere (idek where, you go find it) that women actually think of sex more often than men. Don't remember the study so I can't really speak to its legitimacy though.
Oh yeah, I just brought in the rest of my groceries and remembered the worst part: Hot flashes.
Even if you're /fit/ as fuck, any physical activity more strenuous than walking 50 feet will give you a hot flash that lasts 30 seconds but feels like 5 minutes. It feels like you're overheating and the inside of your skin is prickly and 200+ degrees. They're annoying as fuck and constantly happen. Even if just the room you're in is slightly too hot, you'll get a hot flash. Walking up stairs? Hot flash. Have to lift a 12lb box of printer paper from the ground to desk height? Hot flash.
Night sweats are kind of annoying too. You'll wake up wet as fuck like you just got out of the shower because of sweating, regardless of the temperature of the room you're in.
Get PREP and Truvada you stupid faggot.
Also for those of you like me who aren't faggots - wear a condom when you fuck bar sluts, even if the transmission rate is .04%
The "oh it won't happen to me" mindset will give you diseases.
See, this mindset is perpetuated by people who assume that others can't differentiate between fantasy and reality. The reality, only some people are like that, and they have issues.
pornotraphy is ojnly to see IF you'lL get an erection, you shouldmnt touch it, theca stuff is pretty hard core, that ould be like jacking off in the houwer. EAT YOUR CUM
I don't have an issue. And as expected, you act as the whipped beta faggot you are.
Learn to make them work. It happened once, and nothing is more fun than destroying a woman's self-confidence because she thinks she's not hot enough to make you hard.
Oddly enough when i started fapping more frequently i went from normal to cgi to loli to tranny porn in a matter of weeks. Really fucked up my head lately i dont even feeling like dating anymore
They think they're the new, edgier, /b/ or some shit. Idk. It's a lot of the same type of shitposting. They just call people normies a lot and type "REEEEEEE" whenever someone has a higher social standing than them.
Hedonic treadmill doesn't exist because humans can't be operantly conditioned. Masturbation is healthy. The first one is feminist misinformation and the second is Christian misinformation, though at this point it wouldn't shock me if those two started trading clothes since they both hate sex so much.
I used to watch a lot of hardcore and was worried about porn addiction etc. Now I have no urge to watch hardcore and only watch cam girls. I think it's an improvement. Not sure how / why it happened tho
Thanks. But eh, it's not completely awful. It sucks more dicks than this entire thread combined, but I've found a way to manage the shitty symptoms of it with household OTC medication. Can't afford the actual retroviral cocktail meds for another month so I'll just have to deal with it until then. I'm just lucky that my immune system is strong as fuck and I exhibited symptoms within 2 weeks so that I didn't get stealth AIDS or something. Around 50% of people don't even show symptoms for at least a year, and by that time you're pretty much already fucked. Life expectancy of people with HIV is now actually higher than those without it though because they go in for doctors checkups so often, so I guess it's not all bad.
Medicine's expensive as fuck though. At least we'll probably have a definitive cure in less than 10 years.
And don't worry about the blowjob mate. The chances of getting anything serious from a blowjob(aside from herpes) is so small that there's not even a solid percentage to use. It's just "below 1 in 100,000"
If it makes you feel any better though, most STD screenings are cheap - if not free - and the people who conduct them couldn't care less about what you have. They just want to catch it and treat it.
I think you just get sick of it because 90% of sex is really about the tease and the struggle to obtain it.
When you can just cheat the game and go right to the ending it ruins the game.
i dont even fap to camgirls. i just watch ones that are genuinely cool personalities (at least on cam) or have good music or are really hot. usually if theyre just fucking themselves with a dildo its boring to me lol. theres some funny ass blonde bitch i watch on there, i just enjoy hearing her talk about stupid ass shit its hilarious.
Really. Testimony from Bundy. Even if one was inclined to trust him (And I don't know why anyone would), that's anecdotal at best. And it, of course, a tainted source, since Bundy is quite obvious crazy. Crazy people have a propensity to be affected negatively by a variety of things that don't affect normal people.
In a way, I suppose that's an answer for you - Maybe, just maybe, people with previous mental disease/defects take stuff away from pornography like 'hating women.' But seriously, is anyone here prepared to argue that porn is why Bundy killed women?
So, no, only that pornography stimulates the already insane. That's not an argument so much as a common observation of abnormal psychologists.
Humans aren't vulnerable to operant conditioning or classical conditioning, despite trying as hard as they could at the cost of human lives and dignity not even the NSA could come up with a way to brainwash people. Literally nothing worked, not suggestion, not drugs, no form of conditioning did anything to them besides be incidental torture. Porn cannot program people or change people unless they believe without doubt that it already does this.
In light of this fact it's funny to watch feminists squrim trying to come up with some reason porn is bad - they want to dig their own graves, de-normalize sex and make it a "privleged" sight in our lives so they can gain more control. But they'd just create an underclass of sexual predators. I for one almost hope it happens. I could give up porn if I knew it meant rape gangs would form in every major city and chase feminazis down the block. It's almost cartoonish in it's capacity for amusement.
It's currently completely cured, in the strict sense of the word "cured"
To cure is to cause the symptoms and side effects to go away and not resurface as long as treatment is administered. We have that under control. While on the HIV treatment, it cannot do anything to you. The only problem is that these medications only eradicate 90+% of the virus within you, but not 100%. If you stop taking the medication then the HIV that is hidden within your infected cells that the medicine hasn't quite targeted will come back, and it will be acutely resistant to the medication. As long as one stays on the medication though, they're 100% normal. No side effects whatsoever. The only reason we can't say that we have it cured in the same sense as a cure for Gonorrhea is that those last few(relatively) viruses are cooped up in random cells somewhere and will resurface if the medication stops. The final hurdle is figuring out how to get those viruses that are hiding.
We've figured out dozens of ways to do it, but all of them kill the patient. Not exactly conducive to recuperation lol.
okay here me out, what I was trying to get at is that people with mental problems, anti social behavior would be more equipped to harming people after viewing hardcore porn for a long period of time.
Of course not every normal person who views stuff will view women as objects etc but for those who already suffer from some mental condition and then they are exposed to this type of porn; yes that will set them on a downward spiral.
As was the obvious case for Bundy who was always sick in the head.
I jack it like once or twice a day. It's definitely not healthy. For me, it's like a drug. That point of release is like shooting up to me.
It makes me lazy, tired etc etc. I honestly can never get any work done because of my excessive madturbation. I am obsessed with women of all sizes and colors. It's hard for me to find a girl I wouldn't bang. I like having females as friends, they're "interesting". The way they act talk and think is just so different in a way. I just had a fwb relationship end on me and I really really need to fuck. As for the viewing women as objects claim, I was never a romantic guy. Relationships were never my thing because I wanted to only fuck. I'd pretend to love a girl JUST to fuck. Some of them are definitely.... Childish? Wouldn't say stupid but maybe gullible? Either way, I love them all but I'd rather not have to wake up next to one or have to take care of one. I'm like the worst bf a girl can have, I don't like going out of my way to go out and do stuff to entertain her and keep her liking me.
that feeling when you cum is the ultimate drug and anyone who says that porn is not a drug is 100% wrong.
Nonanonymous precursor to 4chan, more or less. Pay $5 a month to shitpost with other people on a forum, everyone has a name. Community is gay as hell, but that's what gave rise to this community anyway. Moot was a user as well and advertised his shit Yotsuba site to us, so we followed and checked it out. Had like 4 boards, pretty gay. Mostly about anime until people went to /b/ to shitpost without names so they wouldn't get a worse reputation on SA than they already had. People liked this and that it was free, Yotsuba caught on, more people migrated, Moot upgraded the site and named it 4chan after Japan's 2ch. Voila, here we are 13 years later and I now have HIV. The world keeps turning.
Humans are very vulnerable to classical conditioning. A lot of phobias develop because of classical conditioning. By the way, when you flush the toilet every time you pee without thinking about it, it's because you were conditioned to. However we cannot be controlled in any way the NSA would find useful
seeing a hot girl bouncing on a dick is a drug though
This is my favorite position except maybe with my back propped up like on a couch. Second favorite is doggy.
God bless that woman's soul.
As a side note, have any of you figured out why we like ass so much. I've been thinking lately and I have no clue why so many of us feel the need to look at someone's ass. It's like second nature, a human instinct. Even girls look at people's asses. Maybe the key to life is butt.
Evolution. A nice ass = good nutrition, good genetics, and a higher chance of both impregnation and carrying the child to term. Over time our evolutionary attraction has also shifted to a cultural climate, so now everyone loves a nice ass.
Anon i've gone a year without porn before and up to 30 days without fapping.
My consensus is this:
Porn is bad for you. It's not a drug or addiction though, just a bad way to express natural sex drive.
masturbation done with only your imagination is fine. Maybe once a week or every 4 days max.
It's really that simple.
BTW, browsing the internet all day long is just as bad as porn, same principles apply.
No anon, I'm sorry but your brain logic is false. If you truly were a fan of tits, then you would love all tits whether they're small or large. If a girl has a nasty ass that's flat and unappealing, then it's a lose. But even a girl with Itty bitty titties and a fat ass will be nice.
yeah but if you don't know any girls like me, porn is all u hav in ur life
Porn and masturbation help me control my urges to have sex with my girlfriend.
Yeah but the extra drive/energy you get when you use the internet less and don't use porn so much helps you to change that. Transition is the hardest part though, you have to really want it otherwise it won't be worth it.
It's not easy and it's not quick... I would only recommend it if you absolutely hate your current life and deep down feel like you deserve better
I don't think we have any responsibility to do anything about that, though, nothing we're not already doing. Besides, to think of it that way is to misunderstand the phenomena of men like Bundy, he wasn't exactly off in la-la land, he had a concept of what pornography is and means. He displays that he has a solid grasp of it in that video. We just don't bear any responsibility for his lack of judgment or the fact his vices had so much bearing on a downward spiral he was probably already on.
You know the bit I said about "unless they believe it will". So, yeah, you're seeing plenty of people who believe it will in this thread - even men who enjoy porn. Spreading the belief that porn harms people is going to mix with the more agressive aspects of their sexuality and slowly lead them into this edgy belief they're genuinely "lesser than" somehow. That self-deprecation seems to be me to be the cause of the lion's share of behavioral problems associated with porn.
Which brings me to my second point, with this guy. Classical conditioning is really just memory, though, it's not the stimulus generating the response but the strength of it's associated neural network and it was reasoned about in a time before anything like that was known, it's a sense a bunk concept, a misunderstanding of neuroplasticity. For instance why don't phobias always form? Why only sometimes? Why only when we're children, usually?
Operant is the one everyone thinks they're being clever with, anyway, but humans are capable of noesis, of understanding without the use of likeness. They don't just accept stimuli, they reason about their source and purpose in such a way that vastly affects the outcome.
So far the only thing I've seen be predictable with humans is self-fulfilling prophecies, really, a human is the only being that can analyze and modify it's own cognition. We're the only ones with the dev console open even if we kind of have no idea what we're doing.