/B/, why do you want to vote for this cuck? He won't do anything but put more debt on this country with his deluded never done by any country form of Socialism, but copy places with less than 3 million people.
>I like that he's honest.
I don't think so...
Honest man, maintains integrity, and shows empathy. If you think no president could keep any promise made during campaign, wouldn't you at least appreciate a thoughtful and qualified one
I can't wait until Sanders drops out of the running. The millennial voter base he has is going is going to lose their minds, and the salty tears will be delicious.
No he's not, stop spreading this lie. He's quoting someone up until the line "...so to answer your question". Everything after that is Out of Sanders' own mouth.
The line is perfectly in context, but take a listen for yourself if you don't believe me.
Never done by any country? What a dipshit, educate yourself you fucking mong
Nope. I was a bernfag and even I recognize that he actually said this. He later tried to say he just stumbled his words but seriously just imagine Trump even thinking of uttering anything similar tho.
Well, I'm very glad to say that he's on his way out.
I know, I was just hoping for a response akin to pic related.
>He later tried to say he just stumbled his words
Fucking what? He said the same thing almost three times in three different ways, and didn't attempt to correct himself at all? Was this an actual interview where he claimed this?
>/B/, why do you want to vote for this cuck?
Thank you, Clinton troll. Fuck Hillary. With a borrowed dick.
Corporations have enjoyed de facto welfare since 1980. People are being crushed out of existence.
this has nothing to do with anything faggot. Government created ghettos, not black people, get better fucking education and teach them niggers how to think instead of being a racist shit dick
Sorry. It's actually bernsters who try to say he "misspoke". Sanders just tried to take it back by saying oh yeah there is actually poor whites. It's just all damage control though.
He's already lost.
Dude he's pretty much mathematically eliminated... Don't be delusional. It's either trump or clinton. Inb4 hurr ur a shill. I supported Bernie, it's just not gonna happen tho.
The People are sick of the dems shit. Why should we put up with another 4 to 8 years of Obama on steroids: Communist edition. Just let Trump do his thing, if it fails, it's only 4 years, big whoops.
no it can't your a massive retard no country can invade america our navy would fuck them up before they even reached our shores, Russia is the only country with the tech to really go toe to toe with america, not mention we could glass china into a glowing crater.
I'm voting for him because even though he's retarded he's a shit ton better than the demagogue and hypocrite (obv ie Trump & Hillary)
And SOME of what he's doing is actually good, not raw, but under the fact that most of his more extreme stuff will be phased out anyways, and the more mild things are actually genuinely applicable. Also he'll be lowering the deficit not raising it
Plus, he's a democratic socialist which, in the context of the US, is just essentially adding certain successful ideas taken from successful socialist nations and implementing parts that are applicable under our three party system
I'm stressing, though, that I don't entirely agree with him and I think there are a few fundamental issues involved with his ideals, but like I said he's a lot better than the other candidates, and not even gonna start on that, but most of you cucks should (hopefully) be intelligent enough to know why
The soldier count doesn't matter when they're all blown up before they reach shore. It isn't 1949 dude. China going to war with the US would just litter the oceans with a billion Chinese corpses.
Russia, poor.. yes indeed. They're going the hard road and telling the jews/diversity to lick its ass. I like Russia for that, a lot.
I'm far more concerned with Russia than I am China. Russia is capable, even without funding from dozens of countries that want the US to collapse. China? China is a stupid little boy that would have the piss slapped out of it.
You guys are retarded. The US wastes all of its money unnecessarily on our military cause we think that that makes us better even though it's just throwing money away that could get rid of our perpetual deficit. The unnecessarily excessive military is the root cause of our own biggest complaint
Russia is poor but remember that russians were in an arms race with us while china is just recently modernizing its military. alot of the tech Russians the united states have arent common knowledge they require secret level clearances just to work on. not to mention china s growth is not sustainable.
His whole tax the rich doesn't work. You can't edit a system that has been in place over the last 100 years and expect it to work without fault. The more "successful Socialist countries" generally started with it after WW2.
>Taxing the rich won't pay for anything
>Higher taxes for the middle class
>the poor are most affected, by raising welfare and never teaching them how to work, or have less kids.
You realize that Sanders is part of that problem, right? He voted in favour of every American military occupation in the last 20 years, with the sole exception of Iraq in 2003.
Sanders is a war monger not willing to go to war himself. Fuck him.
Berine is humanities only hope.
Help save humans from extinction.
its not you have no idea how much that money goes directly back into the economy, the military employs millions of Americans, all equipment is made in america by americans, every bullet every rifle and every skivvy shirt, not to mention the money that goes into experimental research done by american companies employing american scientists the money that goes into the military budget doesn't just get thrown into an incinerator.
It doesn't matter how advanced our Navy is. If China attacked, they could easily set foot on our soil. A bumrush would easily overwhelm our forces.
China has been modernizing since the 80's and we still use a tank that was designed in the 1970's.
>mfw I live in a state capitol with a bigger population than some eurocoward countries
Also, fuck that communist jew.
>implying a nigger would ever get a job when the commie just boosts welfare perks
The idea of businesses leaving is my biggest concern with voting for Bernie, but foreign labor shows that these businesses are onw foot out the door anyhow. I think any company stupid enough to abandon America over a wage raise deserves to suffer as Americans switch over to their local competitors.
Fuck free college, I think the degree system is a scam that discourages education more than encourages it. Gen ed courses eat away available credits and force students to avoid the subjects they actually have an interest in, which results in a lot of people going to school to get a degree rather than an education. Higher learning is all but dead in America, meanwhile our work force has a huge paywall that disenfranchises hundreds of thousands of people. You NEED that degree. You're an embarrassing half-adult without one. That's the attitude we push in the US, and boy howdy do our community colleges draw in a lot of revenue for it.
Nah, I'm with Bernie because he wants to fix our roads. I can't convince my mom to wear a seatbelt, I plan on doing anything I can to make her half-hour drive to work safer.
are you retarded, are the Chinese soldiers going to swim across the ocean? we have more ships then they do period we have more pilots and more aircraft, more nukes and more ordnance.
............ You know we already have a graduated federal income tax..... Right????.... 16th or 17th amendment, don't remember which one. Also, the argument that you can't do something cause it's existed for so long is usually the cause of pure ignorance especially if left as an unsupported argument, and second of all, we have the same income gap as back in the 20's which is the highest in US history... And IDK if u are smart enough to remember what THAT led to..
Also, I disagree with the policy he has on welfare, I think welfare is stupid, and in addition, the reason the rich should be taxed is not because of helping save money, it's more about balancing the economy; reference the comment I made just before
well iam telling you that when we did war games i was told that simulations between a conventional engagement between U.S and Russian forces would be a blood bath we would literally run out of people to fight in a few hours the russians would lose more but not by much.
> Middle East is littered with $Billion American Embassies, their constitutions are hard-coded to favor American businesses, and American decisions.
But we "left with a power gap".
You do realize how expensive all of those occupations and assaults are, right?
Well he didn't predict the "power gap" left in Afghanistan, Libya, and now Syria did he?
And this is why i hate being stuck in america morons promote war instead of health and education
And I do, and like I said I realize he has many issues with his policies. What I'm saying is that a great deal of the funding for the military DOESN'T go directly into, or isn't needed for that anyways. Hence "excess funding"
A ship is nothing once an Anti-Ship rocket blasts through it. Again, millions of soldiers rushing will overwhelm our troops. Obama has left under trained and underprepared. The fact that Islamic Terrorists using shit rifles and bombs made from Coke cans destroy us.
>he's suck a bernie
are you having a stroke?
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>If China attacked, they could easily set foot on our soil
Star trek transporter beam to America? Yeah? Is that what you think, you fucking expired yogurt?
You realize everyone comes here specifically to talk about these subjects for fun, like a hub, right? It's not like everyone is just triggered uncontrollably
Get out, 12 yr old this is not for your kind
Marking Trump as a fascist was a dumb move. Everything else is somewhat accurate, but marking him as a fascist discredits the entire picture.
Fascism would mean a tighter control on the population through stronger central government, in the most basic sense. And that is certainly not Trump.
The only way he can be seen as such, is that he wants the American government to regulate it's international trade more efficiently, or less so in reality.
As a liberal with an actual brain, I'm sad to be lumped in with you.
i dont think you understand how much our navy shits on literally the entire world, not to mention we have allies like the british and the japanese who also have very fine navys
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WTF is wrong with you. Niggers, spics, and crackers are just fucking people shitwad. You being fucking racist isn't legitimate to anything want it to be. Riverine should be able to get jobs and get a better life... Or what so you can't call them fucking lazy shits anymore? Kill yourself bitch... Your fucking worthless,
2016 presidential election, i want to this so bad
watch Trump lose and see all the teafaggots and rednecks cry
Cause Americans are stupid and don't give a shit about foreign policy unless it directly affects them, not even their reputation, but just them specifically. You're a perfect example!
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In which way does Sanders promote war? Out of all the candidates he seems to be the most critical on American involvement in the Middle East and being the world's police. In many regions in America we follow moral relativism, especially here in New York. But our foreign policy mirrors that of ethnocentrism and moral superiority, that we must give these inferior cultures the "gift" of democracy and capitalism. In reality it's an agenda of economic imperialism, which Sanders seems to oppose.
This is the last thing chinese dogs will see before being blow to peices by superior japanese self defense force.
I understand we are the best of the best. China wouldn't invade us, all I am saying is they are the only nation with enough money to eventually compete and could attempt to invade us.
Good luck with a gun behind every blade of grass once Shill and Sanders ban guns.
In what way is he the lesser of any evils? You must not pay taxes.
It's not really out of context, it's just so stupid that most people assume it has to be out of context.
Kurdish american here, you realize Saddam attacked your trading partner Kuwait right? you realize he did posses and used weapons of mass destruction on his own people right? you realize he started a war that killed 1.5 million people right? you know President Bush is actually extremely popular among muslim Americans.
1911 isn't a model number, it's the year of the introduction of one of the most widely used handguns in the world today, and pic related the m2 browning was tested in the crucible of ww2 and remains a popular shitskin shredder to this day. A tank made in the 70s in the us is going to be formidable for the next 150 years. No zipperhead wartech can hold a candle to the freedom delivery machines manufactured in the good ol us of a.
Just keep in mind I don't agree with a lot of what Bernie says, I'm just defending him cause he's more consistent, logical, and/or reliable than any other given candidate running
I'm voting for him because its either him or Hillary, and I hate women, so...
Plus the Republicans are fagglets, so Trump can follow Carl's advice, and you as well.
I don't think you understand that Beijing and Shanghai are going to explode in economic growth. According to experts at Citi, they are among the top 12 cities to expand in the next 10 years, not a single US city is on there. New York will continue being on top economically, but only for so long.
With this information, you could conclude that because China's government has such a large involvement in the economy, they will use the money to expand it's military.
As much as I understand how much we're on top right now, you have to realize true competition when it's staring you in the face early enough to do something about it.
Implying we are in debt.... The government is bull shitting us saying we are in debt
Yeah, the ones that require certain deep sea ports because they'd eat the ocean floor otherwise?
Do you have any idea how easy it would be to obliterate chinks arriving in nicely-wrapped cargo containers at one of only a few deep sea ports?
Like he said, kick yourself in the nuts imbecile!
war hasn't been about pure numbers for a long ass time
even if this unlikely scenerio happens, it's all about training and equipment, and most of China's forces are incredibly inexperienced
I get this guy is a Bernie supporter, but he shouldn't be the main factor to not vote for Sanders. Trump has supporters that are on that level of awful, just in different ways.
>cute girl was never shown more
She could take my dick.
So stop opposing candidates who aim to give them jobs you stupid fucking twat.
Besides, you have to be a special kind of stupid to believe whites aren't also going to be drawn to crime during unemployment.
you realize that in 1991 13 provinces in Iraq rebelled against saddam, he was an asshole and nobody liked him, killing him was the best thing the u.s ever did in the middle east second to literally building thousands of schools and hospitals in afghanistan.
You don't know who I voted for faggot. Also whites do significantly better when raised under the same socioeconomic environment. Blacks when raised well are perfectly fine, but when blacks get fucked over early in life they never recover and are actually niggers. They don't deserve a place in society at that point.
>put more debt
>is the only one with a plan to raise taxes
Trump literally wants to spend 30 billion on a wall and lower taxes and you think hes going to balance the fucking budget?
theres literally no way to calculate this because it hasn't been done. Take all the blacks out and all this bad stuff will go away... I hope this is bait, but I'm assuming that you really believe in these estimations.
I can estimate something too. I estimate that you are 100% retard.
Saddam was put into power to fight your people and people like you by the US. The PKK are global terrorists and the first recognized terrorist group in the world.
A full scale invasion and attempted regime change led to being bogged down once again in a quagmire that we hardly understood at the time.
Regime change was necessary, the invasion was not. Saddam had to go, but we didn't have to extend our reach that far. Wouldn't have been the first regime change without invasion, we could've done it, and we could have done it in a way that would benefit the people of Iraq, by setting up a temporary ruler that mirrored their ideals. Instead we decided to use brute strength, rather than political cunning and our intelligence community.
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Yeah, they do. What stops them from attacking? China is the most polluted piece of land on Earth. Their natural resources are dwindling and farmland is becoming rarer. We have an abundance of land and resources, all it takes is them to attack and claim.
Exactly, it will be just like what Bush did, not raising taxes significantly to support a huge war effort. Only this time it will be for a wall with no real benefits outweighing the costs.
bernie's not perfect, but out of all the candidates he's the only one who's a decent human being and the only one that mean what they're saying
can't trust any of the other fuckers, Trump is trash and a clown
I'm not that guy, but I hope you realize.... he's right. The #1 expenditure in the military is pay and benefits of the men and women that serve. Where do you think that money goes after that?
They buy houses, go to college, get jobs in the civilian world, buy cars, etc. Yes the military budget does indeed do a lot to help support the economy.
As far as the money being spent on building things, equipment, etc. well.... have't you heard of the "military industrial complex"? It's real, and it's a big part off what makes our GDP so high.
Saddam was put in power to check the Pro russian Iranians, but was only loosely supported by the U.S most of his saddams arms came from the soviet union. the united states understood the situation just fine stop beveling the liberal media and stop this arrogance that is so common in america were billy bad ass thinks he knows better than west point officers and CIA directors. ISIS is literally a remnant of Saddams Baathist, murdering and torturing people on video was something saddam was well known for.
It took 3 months for the allies to land 1.5 million troops in Normandy. Also, there is literally no way in hell the US wouldn't see via satellite imagery troops movements large enough to effectively invade. You're retarded. Also, do you know how much of China's economy is based on US trade? Do you understand they won't attack the US because they'll lose almost a trillion in money invested in US businesses and government debt?
Cuck - when used to describe a politician, or political party - refers to that politician and/or party as weak, and submissive to other countries advances. Europeans who accept refugees and migrants are cucks because they let the barbaric refugees take power, disrespect their land, reshape it's culture and rape it's women. Bernie sanders is a euro socialist politician with a euro socialist political model in mind for the us, and he intends to let these same refugees pull this same shit in the united states. He supports shitskins comming to the west and dominating whites This makes him a cuck. Cuck has a new meaning, and this is it. Whether you want to accept it or not.
Europe is a continent you idiot, and no, China is more to lose from attacking the US than any other country. Not to mention that at least 10 European nations would void any Chinese debts as soon as China invaded. You're extremely naive.
Shut the fuck up and buy the hats from The Don's website.
This is clearly bait, but I will say that every single one of these presidential nominees have the whole idea of how to help this country.
I have an actual idea here.
What if we were to end all laws set against drugs. Making cocaine, heroine, meth, etc all legal. Then, allowing drugs such as these available at doctor's prescription. This would then, in turn, end the program for the War on Drugs which we spend an annual budget of 54 billions dollars. 4 times as much as NASA. In addition, incarceration and homeless rates would drop drastically, due to the federal laws that imprison people for doing drugs and thus thinning their chances to a minimum for getting a job in an increasingly competitive system. The extra money that we have from retracting all funding from the War on Drugs would be money that could then be used on NASA, education, the reconstruction of crumbling public housing, and much more.
That's an idea I have, what do you anons think?
a politician who's fought for what's right all his life
the man is a goddamn paragon compared to the other candidates
as one soldier to a fucking pog; do you want to know how I know you're not combat arms?
>spoiler: because you don't know what you're talking about
>back to /k/
It's couch dwelling Sgt to you pond scum, and for you fucking information I happen to have /k/ open in another tab.
>It's like you know me
There can only be one winner and it's already been decided.
He's done a lot more than hold up signs.
No not at all. The man is a cuck who thinks white people can't be poor. He can't control the situation(BLM at HIS fucking speech) . He has no sense of how the real world works. He lacks leadership. Socialism has ruined a whole bunch.
Because we need to change our policies of jailing them and deporting them. If we made an easier pathway to citizenship for legal immigrants by simplifying the immigration process and making it a more affordable, less daunting endeavor than illegal immigration; than we would save money and resources by not deporting the ones already here, and we could reduce illegal immigration.
This isn't to say we do not need a strong presence on our borders. Drugs flowing into the country is a horribly dangerous reality. Having a strong border patrol would have to be in this plan both for practical and political reasons. We now have to turn to the war on drugs in general.
According to some documentary on netflix called culture high, which reviews experts along with many known pot advocates and celebrities; drug cartels make up to 60% of their profit from our enormous marijuana market. If we removed it's schedule 1 position and legalize recreational usage, we could open up markets in our own backyards and consolidate it back into our borders. Our marijuana marketplace has been outsourced to Mexico unintentionally (or if you're a conspiracy head intentionally). By doing this we'd hit them right in the balls, right in their wallets. This shouldn't be a model for all drugs though.
I don't understand why choosing Sanders is so hard to grasp. He is clearly the most honest and lesser of all evils of all the candidates. You have to be a moron not to see that. Yeah he is not perfect, far from it. But he is not a five year old like Trump or a sellout like Hillary.
How hard can it be to understand this?
He wants to steal from everyone who has ever been successful. TAXES FOR FUCKS SAKE.
>Because we need to change our policies of jailing them and deporting them. If we made an easier pathway to citizenship for legal immigrants by simplifying the immigration process and making it a more affordable, less daunting endeavor than illegal immigration; than we would save money and resources by not deporting the ones already here, and we could reduce illegal immigration.
Being this fucking stupid in 2016.
Philosopher King status. I however agree with him to an extent, but that's the reason.
Not saying he's a king of modern philosophy. It's a term for someone who is basically an idealist.
I have trouble calling Sanders a man, tbh fam.
There is a very simple solution to fixing the vast majority of illegal immigration: end the war on drugs. With a legitimate source to buy drugs from, people would stop buying drugs illegally, thus ending the cartels. There will always be illegals coming from Mexico in order to seek a better life, but with an end to the violence caused by organized crime in Mexico, there would be less of a force driving people out of Mexico and into the US.
You have the grammar of a literal retarded person. You've also proven that you have no earthly idea what socialism is. You're not smart enough to understand why he has so much support.
Sanders is actually one of the most effective members of Congress.
How can you say he's not a leader, when he along with Trump consistently gather huge crowds dwarfing other candidates, except he actually means what he says. Unlike Trump who will say and do anything if it gets him more air time.
The entire fucking part.
>Because we need to change our policies of jailing them and deporting them
No, we need to stop harboring them all together. If you can't get in legally then you shouldn't be here.
> If we made an easier pathway to citizenship for legal immigrants by simplifying the immigration process and making it a more affordable, less daunting endeavor than illegal immigration
It already is simple. You have a fucking skill that is needed. Apply and wait. If we don't need you fucking skill set, you don't get in. Companies that hire the illegals because it's cheaper should be penalized.
>than we would save money and resources by not deporting the ones already here, and we could reduce illegal immigration.
How? If you are illegally here you are committing a crime. You should be punished regardless.
Man, all he had to say is that making an effort to legalize immigrants would lead us to get taxes from them. Done. Yeah illegal immigrants are a drain on the economy because they don't pay income tax. But once they do, they will fund the country like everyone else.
Holy shit how is this so hard to get.
Yeah make it tough to get in and have strict law enforcement to lower crime. But for the illegals that are here, start charging them taxes as soon as possible. This requires to the need to legalize them.
Anyone else here just fucking hate Sanders? I mean, he's the fucking epitome of what I feel to be the problem with the US. Men like him are pretty much the reason we have the problems we have.
I hate him because all of his supporters are elitist shitheads who don't stop trying to convert you to their new God.
I eagerly await the day he drops out, I expect some riots and suicides.
You're only other option is an even weaker guy, you fucking retard. Trump is too big of a pussy to stand up to Megan Kelly and you expect him to stand up to Putin? You're why this country sucks. People like you are too happy being stupid.
In order to give he needs to take. You can't just create money out of thin air (well you can, and if any currency could endure it, it would be the USD, but that could only go on for so long).
> This shouldn't be a model for all drugs though.
Actually, yeah it should. Even for drugs like methamphetamine and heroin. By providing them in safe concentrations/qualities and removing the law enforcement aspect, we would be making these drugs considerably safer. People freak out when they hear about legal heroin, but if it was treated like alcohol it would be very safe (honestly, heroin itself isn't dangerous, the only health risks from heroin itself are OD potential (removable by legalizing/regulating it) and constipation).
Sanders isn't honest, or if he is he's a financially illiterate idiot. Neither being qualities that make him any better than any other candidate.
Well, why should we? My ancestors have been here since like 1680 or some shit, and probably did some shit we'd frown upon as savage or immoral to get by?
But why even think about it in terms of morals?
Lets think of it politically and economically. If it gets done, Republicans will be delighted with their newfound border patrol funds, Democrats will be happy to get immigration off their checklist, and let's add that it will cut down spending. We can also charge the ones who did come here illegally with fines to add revenue. As long as we're not jailing or deporting them.
Megan Kelly is a dumb, goofy-looking, attention whore clamouring for Fox. Why should he give her a second of his time?
That isn't scared, that's wise. That useless bitch doesn't deserve the revenue an interview with Trump would generate.
The fact you think he was "scared" is fucking hilarious. Trump doesn't need Fox, Fox needs Trump.
>Sanders is actually one of the most effective members of Congress.
How? The man has only backed three bills that got turned into laws. Two of those were to rename postal service offices. He's introduced 353 bills and only passed 3. So he's not doing so well.
>How can you say he's not a leader, when he along with Trump consistently gather huge crowds dwarfing other candidates, except he actually means what he says. Unlike Trump who will say and do anything if it gets him more air time.
Are you serious? Every other candidate talks trump 24/7. How is it Tumps problem if everyone else is so focused on him?
They're fucking criminals. End of argument.
Only weak people need excuses made for them. He doesn't have the balls to stand up to a fucking tiny-ass woman. She hurt his feelings and he ran away. He's a pussy and so are you.
The reason why heroin does this to people is because it's illegal. It's expensive because it's illegal, causing financial issues, it has inconsistent purity due to it being illegal increasing the probability of OD, and it's illegality generally forces those who do IV it to reuse needles (as opposed to in a perfect world where a nurse would administer it in a sterile environment). By keeping it super illegal you are guaranteeing it will be dangerous. Try actually researching it.
You have to be working and make a certain amount to pay taxes. Bullshit argument.
And why not just tax everyone in the world then - just because they arent here yet why should that matter -
I don't think she's goofy, she's actually pretty hot. She is a dumb cunt, though.
This is precious coming from someone who is likely a Sanders supporter (or Clinton supporter, but this doesn't work quite as well). Sanders is the epitome of a weak/pliable 'man.'
Maybe I should. The idea is fascinating and if it could possibly bring down the number of 18, 19 year old kids that are filling Long Island rehabs, than that's good. When you get a chance look up the actual epidemic sweeping this nation with heroin.
There will always be more people using it you idiot. Instead of making it dangerous, why not make it no more dangerous than alcohol, save money overall when compared to the expenses of it being illegal, and not violate civil liberties in order to 'protect people from themselves.' Also, the average drug user in general (I don't know about heroin specifically) is more intelligent than the average person, and certainly smarter than you. Don't you just love how prohibition is grounded 100% in ignorance/misinformation?