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You cannot refute this:
Countries without civilian gun rights: no school shootings
America and its 2nd amendment: school shootings every year.
How can you possibly justify the slaughter of children so you can indulge in your fantasies?
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muh freedumb
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>>683090275
of course, this will be ignored by gun nuts who have no argument against it
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>>683090275
Noooooooooooooooooooooo reallllllllllllllly If you take knives away, there would be no stabbings either.
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>>683090275
Why should i care if a couple of kids die. Shit happens. Life is expendable
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>>683090275
because the kids didn't have guns duh

if it was mandatory carry shootings would never happen
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>>683090275
Then it would be like China that only has mass school stabbings
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>>683090275
Moot argument, since there's no way to confiscate guns in America.

The more interesting point that cannot be refuted:
other countries with civilian gun rights don't have nearly the school shootings we do.
Norway, I believe, has only had one.
In that instance, a student fired two shots, hit no one, teacher disarmed him.
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>>683090275
Every school shooter in the last 25 years was either taking or just stopped taking SSRI's. How can you justify still prescribing this shit? I don't lose my rights because of bad parents & mentally defective kids.
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http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/aug/30/ukcrime1

It has more to do with culture than relative ease of access.
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>>683090747
Nice strawman and false equivalence
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>>683091093
You are mentally retarded. Please don't reproduce and if you think you might be tempted then just kill yourself
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We're the second most populated country in the world. Of course more bad things are gonna happen here more often dumbass
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>>683090275
Lies from the get go.
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>>683091345
Mentally Defective Kid Detected
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>>683091512
third, but whatever
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usa needs more of these:
more 9/11s
more school shootings
more hate and racism
more invasions
more dumb fat incest cunt that love eating their own shit for breakfast
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>>683090275
Can't refute it mostly because we don't care fag.
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>>683091788
dubs,
speak the truth
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>>683090275
it's more likely that your kid gonna die drowning in pool than getting shot (it's true statistics) I say that's fair risk I'm willing to live with if I can have gun to kill every nigger that comes to rob me at night.
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>>683090275
well if you look at the break down of the numbers and demographics the US is one of the safest countries in the world. Also the stats on school shootings are grossly misrepresented. They count people shot near schools, and people who should be enrolled in school who are shot as school shootings. So if a teenaged drug dealer drop out, is shot 5miles from school that gets counted as a school shooting. Cop shooting a 50 year old crazy guy across the street from a school? You guessed it! This also counts as a school shooting.

Also, in the US we value the rights of the individual.
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>>683091221
>Nice strawman and false equivalence

Except they aren't strawmen or false equivalences. You take away the guns, angry people are going to stab each other. You take away the knives, they will find another means of hurting one another.

Keep in mind, you're also making the argument on /b/, not Reddit.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2013715/Violent-crime-rife-schools-police-record-65-assaults-EVERY-DAY.html

http://www.theguardian.com/education/classroomviolence

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scotland-assault-capital-world-according-6391138#r2VU483mJJwQEUuw.97
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#Canada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#Europe
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>>683091933
especially if your kids a nigger, niggers cant swim, lol.
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>>683091345
oh mad because he is right!
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>>683090747
How many school mass stabbings have there been anon? Also that argument is weak. If you took away cars there would be no car accidents, if you took away planes, there would be no plane accidents etc etc
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It's our attempt to control overpopulation.
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>>683090275
Population control. /thread/
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Hey OP, i used to love the movie gremlins. its still ok but not the best movie I've ever seen. anyway. i met this girl who also loves the movie gremlins. she said that it reminds her of her childhood. and for some reason the mogwai really turn her on. i ask how thats possible. the mogwai have absolutely no sexual features. no rounded ass, no raised breasts, no genetalia of any type. could it possibly be the fact that they transform into those slimy green gremlins? what is it? she refused tell me. i spent many nights afterwards watching gremlins and hoping maybe to get turned on a little bit. one night i got half a chub but I've since realized that was most likely just the air conditioner. eventually i couldnt take the mystery anymore. i MUST know what turns her on about the movie gremlins, if for no other reason than i want to be able to fuck a mogwai in the comfort of my own home. why should she be able to get so turned on by gremlins but I'm not even allowed to experience it? i corner her. she backs up. scared. my slow approach has her shaking and asking, "logan, whats gotten into u?" i tell her this is the end of the line. she must tell me why gremlins makes her pussy drip. here and now is the time or she will die by my average sized cock. I can tell that she's finally about to tell me, she's finally about to break. she takes a deep breath and dramatic music begins to play from the lunch room loud speakers across from mrs. shabotski's 5th grade class ( this was the song: http://youtu.be/dPiEVyd3-4k [Open] ) above the dulcid tones she tells me the thing i swore never to repeat. but i will tell it to you hear bros. i will tell it to you from my death bed. i will tell you the sexiest thing I've ever heard. that girl lets the real life gizmo live in her pussy. listen OP, i used to love the movie gremlins. its still ok but not the best movie I've ever seen. anyway. i met this girl who also loves the movie gremlins. she said that it reminds gets wild after midnight
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>>683092471
do you really want to live in a world where you are "protected" from something because something bad "could" happen? I could drown in a swimming pool...POOF no more pools. I dont want to live in a world loke that
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What movie is that is it about aliens or paranormal beings?
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>>683091345
SSRI's detected. Don't go to Anon's school tomorrow /b/
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>>683090275
I tried saying this to an American, he said gun laws are dumb because countries and states with tighter gun restrictions have more shootings.
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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/oct/02/mass-shootings-america-gun-violence
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>>683090275
>How can you possibly justify the slaughter of children so you can indulge in your fantasies?

what fantasies? there is no refute... your statement is a mismatch of sentences.
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>>683090747
no there would be less stabbing. and more bludgeoning.
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>>683090275
No shit, you cant shoot people without guns.
School shootings is such a week point to bring up. This is not how a majority of kids die you tards.
Also where there is heavy gun laws there is higher crime. Sorry to break it to you
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>>683090275
I agree with this 100%

Anyone who agrees in having gun rights is a total idiot.

>"But muh guns will stop the illuminati from uprising".

Oh you fucking idiot believing in conspiracy shit!

Go and study all the countries who do not allow guns like Canada, Australia. Those hardly have any murders whereas Murica is filled with bloodshed and gangs killing each other nonstop.
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>>683091788
you like being edgy don't you squidward?
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>>683093524
/thread
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>>683091093
really? every single one? I actually knew somebody who was a school shooter, and they took no meds. They did it because it was like that book 'The Most Dangerous Game'
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>>683092064
To purchase a handgun or other restricted firearm, a person must have a possession and acquisition licence (PAL) for restricted firearms. Canada's federal laws severely restrict the ability of civilians to transport restricted or prohibited (grandfathered) firearms in public.

I'm Canadian, most of these are with rifles or weapons more then likely purchased from the states or brough over considering handguns are illegal to own with out very special certification that civilians cannot normally obtain, fyi, wiki the amount of American school shootings compairison its alughbale how you guys topple everyone, oh btw why the fuck did you even bother linking mexico no shit its a fucking shit hole its a given,

Canadian civs are restricted to hunting rifles with very rare exceptions
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Civilians in Canada can get guns through the proper licenses, though you cant carry them around unless authorized to, and there is no such thing as a concealed weapons license.
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>>683090275
Probably because school shootings started about 20 years ago. In the three hundred years before that, when every family owned multiple guns, there were no mass shootings.

Maybe we have a sick people problem.
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>>683093524
All of those countries you mentioned have violent crimes with different weapons. Also, you can't get rid of the guns in the US, because there are too many, and only the law abiding citizens would turn theirs in. Want to see a crime spike against the innocent? If you don't live in the US, you have no business making these statements, and if you do, then you're an ignorant SJW cunt, or a teenager with no real life experience.
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>>683092064
I love how EU and Canada can briefly fit on a page with South America, Asia and the rest of the world.

The US needs a seperate page and decennial subordination.
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>>683094014
same anon, also shot guns are allowed
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>>683093524
Canada allows guns, fucktard. They even allow some guns that are restricted in the US. I'd know, I have a short barreled 12 gauge in Toronto.
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>>683093524
Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. You think because we have Facebook and Internet that governmental takeovers just can't happen?
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America has a nigger problem, not a gun problem.
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>>683094161
pretty sure u understand that what we allow in Canada is based for hunting right???? I hope you realize this you stupid fuck tard
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>>683094052
That's exactly the problem but the fucking lefties want to blame it on guns. Don't really know why..
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>>683094175
That is why people need to be careful who they elect, do you really think that a civilian militia could ever conceivably beat a modern government, let alone the US government
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>>683090275
Who cares if fucktard mericunts kill each other. Give them all guns I say, let them wipe themselves off this planet. No loss, world will be a better place.
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>>683094137
That shit went over my head man. I want to know hat your saying. Can you repeat in a dumbed down version?
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>>683090275
Countries with no schools have no school shootings either. Coincidence?
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>Me agreeing with both parties
No guns would make us safer overall
However, knives would be used to kill, but they would not have as high a fatality rate as guns
if somebody doesn't turn in their gun (or deactivates it), make it that the second you see a gun, instant arrest. Done.
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>>683090275
Statistically if you removed all niggers from american crime statistics, you'd have a country that has as much gun related crime as canada

No joke
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>>683090275
Because Americans are taught to fear their neighbours at a very young age and the concept of fear is continually reinforced in the media so Americans feel the need to own and carry firearms for protection
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>>683093524

And relative to population...
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>>683090845
Edgy
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>>683094305
Don't give a shit, and I'm not backing any argument, but that anon wad full of shit and wrong when he said "Canada doesn't allow guns."
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>>683090275
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>>683094612
Was just about to say that it might not be so bad by population, considering that Canada is basically equivalent to California in population
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>>683094377
>say faggots who, in other circumstances, said it was impossible for the US to defeat the North Vietnamese or Iraqi insurgency or Taliban
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>>683091087
There was one in Canada but the kid went to school and shot his brother and his brothers friend then killed himself
It wasn't a mass shooting it was a targeted killing
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>>683093524
>what is 700% more violent crimes than the US
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>>683091093
Lol Americans falling for the mental illness meme of the NRA
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>>683094443
>Eurofag currently sucking off invading Muslim before being beheaded detected
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Strange how everyone's forgetting a place like Europe just had over 140 people killed in one mass shooting and their gun laws are tight.
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>>683094612
If you removed nigger shootings the USA would be almost exactly the same as canada
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Don't throw away the rights that the Founders gave you... they wrote the 2nd amendment for a reason
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>>683094660
well no shit, most countries allow guns for the purpose of sport/hunting you fucking cuck it was a complete given to begin with but you made it seem like were just like the states, god Ontario fucks are stupid
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>>683091512
>We're the second most populated country in the world.
Christ you idiot
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>>683090275
It really is a joke of a country.
I'd never, ever consider living there.
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>>683090275
I wonder if someone's gonna start a post today that isn't b8 and pure cancer.

Jk that shit won't happen
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>>683094831
>butt hurt obese mericunt currently sucking off his dad whilst holding a gun to his head detected.
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>>683091087
the sample demographic is uncomparably smaller.
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>>683094713

Nope, 6 times as bad.

>b-but eurocucks murder with other weapons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

US has a murder rate of 3.8 per 100k. Germany 0.7...
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I don't care about school shootings. In every instance where someone tried that and other people were armed no kids were killed. So it's not having guns that's the problem. It's gun free zones. Those are the problem.
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>>683094881
Most murder in Canada are gang related in either Toronto Vancouver or Montreal
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>>683094612
I like how it says murder. Even though it includes suicide, accidents, self defence and so on
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>>683094996
source you stupoid lieing shit head, don't refute facts without actuall facts of your won to refute with,
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>>683094890
>The founding made the bill of rights
>Relying on a constitution written by slave owners
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>>683090275
Yup. Gun control works perfect everywhere, pic related.
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>>683095051
>suicide, accidents
That still firearm death though
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>>683094898
Keep replying I'll keep calling you wrong. You said guns aren't allowed in Canada and that's bullshit. You were wrong, and no argument will change that. Go ahead and reply, you're still full of shit.
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>>683095051
>suicide
Which is higher than the rest of the world - gun suicides don't fail.

>accidents
Which helps your case how?

>self defence
Ah yes, the US of A, where muggings turn into legal homicides. Freedom!
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>>683094305
Yeah ARs and handguns for hunting?
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>>683090275
Really? how did they get the guns? through illegal means. 2nd has nothing to do with it.point is those with illegal intent will find illegal means. your point is moot as fuck
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>>683095241
Let's pick out the anomalous incidents in other countries to justify American mass shootings!
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All you need to watch is this:
https://youtu.be/0rR9IaXH1M0

Jim Jefferies. A comedian who's argument is sound.
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In 2015 only 13000 Americans died due to gun violence. There are roughly 300 million Americans. It's a small percentage.

Since we people seem to be against eugenics, there has to be something to keep the pop down.
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>>683094904
Well, it's the third, it's not like he's far off.
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>>683095258
are u stupid I never said that you retarded fucking autstic jelly roll
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Maybe we should make murder illegal.
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>>683095314
So much this.
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>>683091512

You ever heard of "per capita"? Retard.
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>>683094449
The whole world (minus the US) can fit their school shootings in a few paragraphs in a single article.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#Notable_school_shootings

The United States need their own article.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States
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>>683090275
freedums, duh
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>>683095350
Lel dude makes a good point thanks /b/ro shits funny
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>it's an americunts are paranoid lunatics who think they could oppose the gubmint with muh gunz if it suddenly went full NSDAP episode
>it's a "let's compare gunz with knives or cars, even though the knife is a kitchen utensil while you can only use a gun to shoot people or fucking beavers" episode

You need a civil war tebehe.
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Toddlers in the US have shot 23 people so far this year.

Sort your shit out America.
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>>683090275
The U.S hasn't had an elementary school shooting since 2012, crime has statistically went down, and Obama never won with gun control because the lobbies for gun rights were too strong. Try harder faggot.
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>>683095294
you sure are stupid, hand guns are restricted in Canada, very restricted also since you are very very stupid ill give u a link since I'm not a faggot that doesn't give facts without proof like you

(To purchase a handgun or other restricted firearm, a person must have a possession and acquisition licence (PAL) for restricted firearms. Canada's federal laws severely restrict the ability of civilians to transport restricted or prohibited (grandfathered) firearms in public.) this is sited from wiki

also yes AR 15's are hunting rifles 5.56

.308
.22
etc
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What part about "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?
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>>683092908
I agree, but we need to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally and physically unstable. We also need a way to have every gun registered
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>>683095839
The part about well regulated militias.
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>>683093524
I like firearms, Im an ausfag cunt'
US gone laws are a little shocking at times...
Populations compared to anon's picture
FINLAND - 5.39m
AUSTRALIA - 23.13m
ENGLAND - 53.01m
SPAIN - 46.77m
GERMAN - 80.62m
CANADA - 35.16m
U.S. - 318.9m

Wouldnt you say canada has more a of problem?
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>>683094612
Switzerland has very liberal (as in, not restrictive) gun laws, comparable to the US.

Where do they fit on this list?
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>>683095945
Burn.
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>>683095809

>The U.S hasn't had an elementary school shooting since 2012

Motherfucking congratulations, such an achievement. The rest of the world is really struggling to contain this elementary school carnage.
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>>683095968
population of 8 million

doesnt even touch the sides
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Ironically countries with strict gun control also have high crime rates. UK and Australia are great examples. Just go ask the UK having the highest crime rate in all of Europe. Russia has strict gun control yet has a murder rate 4x the U.S according to Harvard university.
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>>683090275
>You cannot refute this
sure you can: fallacy of single cause
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>>683095839
Why are you trying to keep a law that was passed almost 250 years ago under completely different circumstances, when England, France, Spain and Mexico were all willing to crush you and claim your clay? You're by far the largest military on the planet, who are you gonna use those guns against other than Americans with guns you paranoid fag?
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>>683095968
They also have a mandatory draft
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>>683095968
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland
Apparently, gun ownership was about 25% in 2014, and declining still.

In other words, even though it's legal, Switzerland doesn't have a gun culture. They're not retarded; good on them.
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>>683096194
Its even worse now, everyones streaming across the borders and ISIS wants to fuck us up, China wants to nuke us, and Russia just thinks we're fucking morons. And we are, cunt. We really fucking are

This is the time for the US citizens to have guns. Many of them
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>>683090275
Every country has crime. In the uk, where we can't have guns, everyone and their mother gets stabbed.
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>>683095350
I will say this - I am a Marine and weapons safety was a HUGE deal. I believe people need safety courses before they are allowed to own guns.hell I would say they need a yearly course. for fucks sake you have to renew a cars tags yearly why not a fucking gun? hell you are supposed to have insurance on a car. not a gun WTF
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>>683096384
>the most powerful military in the world, by far

That just blew over your head didn't it? You could fight China, Russia and the entire Latin America, at once, and win. And how's your Glock gonna protect you from a chink nuke(they don't wanna nuke their number 1 trade partner btw you raving lunatic)?
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>>683096384
You can't stop a suicide bomber unless you're willing to gun down everyone who looks even slightly Muslim.

China's not going to nuke you because no one wants a WWIII.

And lastly, Russia's entirely right. Have you seen your current presidential candidates?
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>>683093524
>guns murdered x amount of people
Anon, I think the problem is that we are apparently manufacturing sentient guns that are capable of firing themselves. Maybe make ones that require a living person to fire them, and these things would only happen with irresponsible owners.
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>>683090275
Name a country that has as many gangs as the US and decides the cause the statistics to bump up as much as strawman argument country's.

Protip, Russia and other countries that also have strict gun control.

Name a single country in Europe that has stopped Mohammed from shooting and bombings with firearms.

Protip, countries that have strict gun control like France and Belgium both got fucked in the ass by ISIS.
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>>683096639
Wanna bet?
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>>683096775
>guns were the problem in the France terror attacks
>the solution is obviously more guns
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>>683095350
My Dad has a 357 mag revolver. NEVER SHOT IT. a shotgun. NEVER SHOT IT. Doesn't even know how to load them! WHAT THE FUCK?!
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>>683090275
Most of us are fucking retarded anyways. Who cares that there will be a few less people in the world
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>>683095945
The right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Not the milita, the people you fucking moron.
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>>683096862
>bombs were banned in France
>really stopped them from using bombs
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>>683090275

There might not be school shooting, ppl still find ways to hurt ppl.

Look at the guy who shot up that one Norway camp, who killed 80 ppl.

Same day Sandy hook shooting, guy in Japan went around and stabbed 29 ppl before cops could stop him.

What about the Paris attacks? A place where guns are banned, yet criminals, like always were able to obtain guns, kill over hundred ppl and injure more than 300.

Guns are not the problem, it's ppl who are the problem. If some one really wants to cause harm to ppl, they will find it a way.

At least against a gun you have a chance to run, or even fight back if you yourself have a gun. If a person has let's say a bomb, you can't do crap against it.

Hell, i don't own any guns and don't care for them, even i know the value they hold in this world.

You're clearly a faggot who needs to fuck off.
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>>683094740
The anti guns in America would call that a "mass shooting". The media is fooling people to think guns are the problem
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>>683096986
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Go look up your favourite countries. If people are the problem, that means Americunts are the problem.

Then again, I suppose that's true.
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>>683091017
Or mass shootings of protesters by the government.
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>>683094377
>assumes members of the military will not join the civilian resistance movement if the government orders them to turn their guns on the populace.
>has not studied enough history
The more you know...
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>>683096194
>Who are you gonna use those guns against other than Americans with guns you paranoid fag?

Home invaders, carjackers, gang bangers, criminals with bad intent who are also felons and can't get guns unless they get them illegally.

>Buh buh you're paranoid
Id rather be paranoid than be mugged, killed or have them cause harm to my family.

Plus all the countries you just listed are strawman countries that have their own set of problems involving crime, murder etc.

Oh hey guess what? You complain that gun crime is out of control yet these days we're experiencing some of the lowest crime rates since the FBI 1st started recording murders.
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ok so im not necessarily against allowing guns, but is anybody in here actually against the idea of stronger gun control that would make it harder to get again, kind of like how it is in japan? if so why?
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Gun crime has actually gone down in America as gun ownership increased.

Also, how do you fags explain DC and Chicago which have strict gun laws yet somehow have the highest murder rates in the country.
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>>683096862

Psst, hey anon, guess what? France had strong gun control, that really stopped ISIS huh?
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>>683095354
I like that "gun violence" guns are violent. so are cross bows and combat knifes. "gun violence" smh
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>>683091788
I love how these "anti gun" threads are really just a circle-jerk of euro-fags who are the cucks of the planet.

Stay mad,
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>>683097452
correlation does not equal causation, crime would have gone down anyway, im not taking a stance on gun control but that argument is unfair, there are a fuck ton of reasons crime is going down
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/02/the-many-causes-of-americas-decline-in-crime/385364/
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>>683097687
So fucking true
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>>683094597
Underrated post.
>don't bring up Norway again!
Got a lot o' niggers there?
I didn't think so.
Also, Chicago. Strict gun laws. Many shootings. Mostly nigger on nigger.
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>>683093524
While I belive there might be some truth to these numbers remember to calculate the amount of people in comparisson to the other countries and in that sense get a statistical approach to it. Otherwise you really get the same issue the "Whites kill more then whites debate"
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>>683097687
Yeah, making fun of "dumb americans" is their way to feel empowered and ready for a long day of prepping the bull.
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>>683091933
How many niggers ever came to rob you? How many times you ever had to draw your gun in self-defense?

Fucking delusional ass punk bitch.
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>>683097687
This couldn't have been more true or better articulated
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>>683095263
Why do you want suicides to fail? That is their choice, let them do it. A botched attempt is even worse. They might get fucked up and then the rest of us have to take care of them.
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>>683097984
Truth.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IULSD8VwXEs
Just gonna leave this here, have fun getting mad faggots.
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>>683098208
You're gonna need bigger b8, and you're gonna need some band aids for that edge. Try harder.
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>>683098270
yeah solve poverty and we won't have any violent crime problems good thinking
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>>683098208
>nigger detected
I've had to use my knife in self defence 3 times aginst stupid fucking niggers who want to rob me. My car has veen broken into by niglets as well. Never had a problem with a white person and my only confrontation with a hispanic was when his lawn truck hit my mailbox. And he apologized and paid for it. Fuck niggers.
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>>683098208
Almost 20 times.
But, in my defense, I'm 50 yrs old, and have never had enough money to live far enough away from them.
I'm also not the anon you were blabbing your uninformed mouth off at. Go back to your Eurofag mainstream media, faggot!
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>>683090275
>Norway
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>>683095945
It says that the PEOPLE have the right to bear arms and THEN says we have the right to a militia. It does not say only the militia can own arms. Literally learn how to read.
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Eliminate the nigger on nigger and gang violence and the USA is right on par with the rest of the world with gun crime statistics.
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remember when alcohol got banned, it'll be like that but 10 times worse
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>>683097687
Well said, /b/ro, and so true.
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If you look at all the shooters they were all doped up on SSRIs or something similar. What should really be banned?
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>>683090275
It must be nice to live in your suburban basement where nothing wrong ever happens.
People who buy into the no firearms deal usually live middle to upper class areas. Have you ever had someone try to walk into your house and take your things?
I had a Mexican hopped up on drugs just walk into my house, luckily, me and two other roommates were right at the door and scared him off. I've woken up to people looking through my window and even trying to steal my AC from my window.
So what the fuck and I supposed to do when I don't have a gun? Call the police and wait the 20 minute estimate they give?
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>>683098270
QFT

And they continue to vote democrat in the most crime riddled, nigger infested and gang banging cities.
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>>683096649
Are you saying our candidates are worse than Putin? He's invading a country as we speak.
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>>683094990
First of all, it's "incomparably", and I don't think you know what it means. You want some comparison? Here:

School shootings PER YEAR, PER CAPITA over the last 20 years:

Canada (where it's just as if not more easy to get a gun):
2 total,
which is roughly 0.3 per year per 100 million (adjusted for population growth).

USA:
71 total,
which is roughly 1.1 per year per 100 million (adjusted for population growth).

I was going to list every single American school shooting with the date and location, but fuck that, I don't have time. Just look at this WORLDWIDE list of known school shootings:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html

America is fucked up, and it's not because guns are easy to get. It's because the population is collectively retarded and can't go more than a couple months without inspiring one of their shithead kids to shoot people up.
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>>683099435
Nope. You ice that nigger in the face and claim self defense.
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>>683090275
Because population control, and my guns make me jizz my pants.
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What's not to like about owning such masterpieces as this?

I've got a ton more in the safe.
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>>683095967
I'm an Ausfag and I own a firearm. ACtually I own two firearms.

Neither of my firearms have murdered anyone.. Don't know what the fuck that picture is talking about..
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>>683090275

The only reason why governments in europe etc has strict gun laws is because they disarmed us back in the 1900s to obtain complete power over its civillians. Aka making us sheep.

Now tell me if that is a good thing or not. Lol.
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>>683099631
Exactly, because believe it or not there are good people who live in the ghetto and have to deal with blacks and Mexicans who have no respect for anyone or themselves. Banning guns isn't the answer, there's too many and we would be creating a huge black market for them.
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In America most of the gun crime is done by gangs, against gangs etc.

America has a gang problem.
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Guns are made for killing people

Less guns, less dead people.

Toddler argument
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>>683093796
Fuck off faggot, you did not cunt
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>>683090275
>Countries without civilian gun rights: no school shootings
because people willing to shoot shit up care about the law
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I wish they would try to repeal the 2nd amendment. This country needs a cleanse. It would be a war of people with guns and those without. Not hard to figure who comes out on top.
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>>683100028
Guns are also used for hunting and killing animals that could hurt your livestock. You're a toddler.
Maybe if we tried to educated niggers and teach them that there's more to life than being a rapper, playing basketball or selling drugs they wouldn't be pressured into crime.
How's the suburbs anon?
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>>683100028
No.

Guns are made to fire a projectile at velocity.

Where the person in charge of the firearm chooses to put the projectile is the person's fault.

You can shoot paper, steel targets, animals, the air.

Knives are made to cut or stab things. Same point. You could cut paper, the air, a person, an animal, some wood...
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>>683100019
>gang

I think the word you're looking for is nigger
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>>683100327
White gangs, Nigger gangs. Hispanic gangs. Asian gangs... gangs
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>>683100028
Where's your house? It's going to be an easy break in considering your too much of a pussy for home defense.
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>>683100391
>white gangs

I think you mean the chess club m8
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Was bored so just re-watched 'I'm a Legend'.

Fucking love that movie.
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>>683100501
Never heard of the 1% motorcycle gangs?
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>>683097179
Niggers are the ones committing the crimes, and we admit they're the problem.
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>>683099435
I live in a rural area, police are at least two hours away.

Things getting resolved by guns happens often. Since dam near everyone has them, this rarely ends in a "shoot out" but every once in a while someone does get shot.

It seems like city/suburb people have a really fucking hard time not shooting up schools and murdering each other all the time.

I dont understand why this should be my problem. If people want to regulate firearms in their town/community, go ahead. But don't think that what works for some people works for them all.

You know what really drops violent crime?Access to clean water, healthcare, education, and a higher quality of life.

Gun control is a band-aid for the gaping femora l bleed that is our government.
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>>683100501
Top Kek
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>>683100634
The problem is the niggers don't want to better themselves. In those inner cities it's the kewl thing to be a gang banging rapper
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>>683100028
So if you have to groups of people with guns that hate each other, and you take all the guns away from one group.....

Less dead people?
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>>683097444
It works in Japan because there are practically no guns in civilian circulation. It's just too late for the US. The government would literally have to go door to door collecting guns, and that's sinply against our bill of rights.
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>>683090275
Yes, I can refute it.
Switzerland has civilian gun rights, no school shootings.
Mexico has no civilian gun rights, and a shitload of gun crime.

Americas school shootings are not related to gun ownership. At best? You can argue the quality of the weapons they used is higher. But thats about it. Sorry. Learn to logic.
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>>683099630
Canada has free healthcare and easy access to physiological health treatment, most shootings in American schools and universities also don't have much security plus have gun free zones so they are more of a target than a school that has security and is armed.

Stop bringing up strawman arguments for fucks sake.
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>>683099630
easyer? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH yeh hunting rifles and shot guns buddyOh FYI lots of guns we have are restricted to civilians, need very special hard to get permits, nice facts dipshit try adding detail so you don't look like a fucking generalizing idiot.
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>>683101035

You should have to lock your firearm up and the ammo too.

You should have to have a license to own a firearm, as this vetts anyone... background checks etc
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>>683100634
Absolutely, you're a very smart man.
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>>683100501
Im not even one of these anti-america anti-gun fags and i know white supremacist groups are gangs that kill people and deal drugs.
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>>683090275
Countries with restrictions on gun rights still have school shootings and stabbings

How do you reconcile the enormously larger violent crime rate in western countries with no civilian guns?
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>>683101219
>mfw my weapons and in a safe along with my ammo
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>>683101231

Education. Instilling respect for others into people. Respect for property.

Jobs and having food, clothing, housing etc.
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>>683098208
It happens more than you think. I've drawn my gun twice now on armed muggers, and I'm not exactly living in the slums. Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
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>>683101295
My city used to have a skin head problem back in the 90's, but hipsters thought that was cool and now everything is gentrified
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>>683101118
>Canada has free healthcare
>easy access to psychs
>better security at schools

Well, retarded ameribuger, why doesn't the USA implement these changes to be more like Canada and see what fucking happens, hmm?

God damn I knew you people were brain dead but you can't even spot someone's fucking point after repeating back to them. Fucking hell
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>>683090275
bc the people who created this country felt it was a very important right. so much they made it the 2nd amendment. thats pretty high up there. if you don't like it move somewhere else, nobody is stopping you. plenty cuck countries willing to not allow you to do things.
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>>683098208
>delusional
How's the suburb?
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>>683094116
Yeah but in all the school stabbings I've ever heard about here (UK) only one person has died, a teacher in Leeds. Knives are just so much less deadly than guns.

Also, look at this terrorist attack here in the UK shortly after San Bernadino shootings, compare the death tolls, then ban guns in your country.
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>>683101114
Not to mention most shootings are in gun free zones or happen in gun control related states.

>San Bernadino
Gun control in Commiefornia really helped
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Humans are like rabbits, they'll make more.
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>>683095456
What is this?
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>>683090275
If you take away guns, people will just commit crimes with knives. The UK has more violent crime per capita than the US because people are just stabbing each other.

Canada has next to no school shootings and it's nearly as easy to get guns there as it is in the US.

There are ways to prevent school shootings that don't infringe the rights of law abiding, responsible gun owners.
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I was good mates with a kid who tried to blow up my school like 2 years ago and he had autism but wasn't on any meds except using coke heavily
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>>683095858
How does a registered gun becomes less deadly than an unregistered gun in the hand of someone who lost it?
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>>683101534
>amendment
its an amednmant, means its fucking meant to be changed and altered as we evolve as a culture and people, I love the amendment argument its so full of shit

the only reason you guys can say its okay to have guns is because you like them, that's ok to like it, but defense yeh fuck no,

have fun trying to pull it out of your safe while dudes already cocking back the hammering pin of his gun he stole from someone who could afford it scrathed the serial numbers off and is in the process of robbing your ass

Case and point
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>>683101477
Because people are too retarded to pass laws to prevent.
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>>683101219
We should need licenses, and we should have to prove we know how to safely operate the firearm. We also need to learn how to keep our guns away from kids. But storing them separately from the ammo makes them useless in self defence. And the US has a LOT of armed break ins.
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>>683090275
>comparing countries of under 50 million to one of 350 million
>wonder why there are more total public shootings
>doesn't realize norway, france, switzerland, finland, etc... have more mass shooting deaths per million than the US
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>>683090275
Because 'Merica, I assume you are a Eurofag OP, mericans are scared that one day big brother is going to take away their freedom so they keep guns that no civilian should ever own and sych themselves up that one day they too will become Patriots and take back Merican values. (Just noticed how much Merican looks like Mexican going to go rofl now)
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>>683101794
ide prefer to be stabbed then fucking shot, your argument stopped being cerdable the moment you mentioned knives in a way that was equal to lethality and bullshit like guns

and again no its not (easy) to get guns, a lot of guns which circulates legaklly for the states are restricted here, you need to fucking research before you post you dumbfuck
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>>683090275
Is this the sandy hooks shooting?
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>>683101342
where the fuck do you get your facts from? Disneyworld?
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>>683092043
Yes they are actually.

Like all the other morons on here. Ohh I could drown take away pools. I could crash take away cars. I could get stabbed take away knives.

Totally false comparisons on every level. GUNS WERE DESIGNED TO KILL DUMB FUCK AND NOTHING ELSE !

/thread
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Eurocucks are just mad that they can't defend themselves from the muzzy invasion kek
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>>683095814

You must be the same shit poster that's been getting his ass handed to himself on /pol.
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>>683102033
Oh look guys, we have a constitutional scholar on fucking 4chan of all places. Please, explain how removing an amendment from the bill of rights isn't against constitutional law when it clearly states "The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" retard.

You guys are fucking hilarious
>Good luck trying to pull it out of your safe
>Implying i have a safe or know anything about how people with guns do things or work
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>>683102033
My hand gun is in my bedside table, faggot. keep projecting
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>>683102033
Right, it can be changed. I think it should be regulated. I'm with you there. But you can't just say "ok no more guns" because then it would only be niggers with guns and normal people without.
Do you know what the biggest problem with guns are? It isn't a 1/10000 school shooting, it's niggers.
Nobody with mental health or felonies should have them. A stance Trump actually is behind, while Hillary just thinks taking all guns would work.
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>>683102537
>Straight outta /pol/
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>>683102486
You've never been in a situation where someone else is in control and could hurt you or your family. Must be a nice suburban life you have.
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>>683100546
Those are motorcycle clubs, nigger...
Not gangs.
>law enforcement detected
>mainstream media digester detected
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>>683102033
Why don't you consider defence to be a legitimate reason to own a weapon, regardless of what it is? Just because you've never needed to? Armed robberies occur all the time in the US, and the occupants are often killed or harmed, even if they don't resist. I honestly want to know what your prescribed procedure is if someone breaks into your house with a weapon. Do you literally call the cops then cry, in that order?
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It seems you'really more worried about the consequences of the problem rather than the cause... and thus don't understand the actual cause to be able to address it.

Guns do not equal violence... otherwise that would be consistent among every country that had or didn't have guns... and it's not.

The intellectually inconsistent do not understand consistency.

They believe a guy being consistently wrong for decades proves he's honest lol #FeelTheTruth
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>>683090275
You know, I did see a spike in the decrease in car crashes when we banned cars..
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0

Sums it up perfectly
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>>683090275
>school shootings every year
Dude, it's like twenty per year.
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>>683102486
If you genuinely care about lives, you should want to ban things that kill innocent humans. All of them. Not just guns. Replace cars with trains and you have a safer country. But you don't want the country to be safer, you're just left wing, and thus obligated to be anti gun.
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>>683095858
whats wrong with physically unstable people? lmao
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>>683102816
He has no leg in this race and still thinks he knows what's best.
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>>683103290
But cars actually have a purpose that is not solely to kill people
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>>683090275
it's called natural selection.

a few dummies died, so what?

whether your favorite commie dictators know it or not, the human population is growing at an alarming rate. sooner or later, we're gonna have to cull the herd.

and frankly, europe is loaded with sheep.
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>>683090275
There aren't many, if any people that protect schools, thus making them easy, unarmed targets for mass shooters. European shootings and attacks are bigger though, France, Belgium for starters
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>>683102486
"Dude, fuck you I'm right! You have actual proof to back up your shit and all I have is my asshole. It's just a straw man cucklord"
>/thread
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So many people are are too willing to give up their best means of self-defense because a few people that use those tools to kill innocent people.

Some of the same people who shout about police violence and militarization also want to make them the only ones with the capability to protect you or your family. When something happens and they get there 20 minutes after the call was made, whose body will the coroner be picking up? Which of the people on site is the criminal with violent intent?
Police are not the first responders, you are, they are there to file a report and collect evidence to try to catch the bad guy if things went poorly for you.

Drug related shooting is the cause of the vast majority of gun crime in the US. With gangs fighting over distribution territory.
The "War on Drugs" is the reason for the increase in shooting. The same reason alcohol prohibition lead to the rise of organized crime in the '20s.

As far the the occasion school shooting, I don't think a sign on the door does enough. I've been in a few schools at a nearby school district with a few armed police working at the visitor check in desk. I consider this a far better use of a few officers than sitting at speed trap to write tickets.
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>>683095294
Ars can hunt though, they can bring down deer. Handguns can to depending on caliber
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>>683102801
Its called "not living in america where every fucker has a gun".
If you think being " in a situation where someone else is in control and could hurt you or your family" is totally acceptable for a first-world country, you're mistaken.
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>>683102816
works for nearly every other country that has actual responsible gun control

again restrict the guns then you get robbed by either a dude with a knife which no shit ide prefer over a god damn gun, and secondly, its easyer to defend against a knife, third, if the nigger has a automatic rifle or some heavy duty that is fairly illegal that can't be obtained even through normal means do you really think you're little pee shooters will stack up and I'm not talking about you hicks that collect about 20 of them caus eyou genuinlky llove guns, i mean the people who actually get worried by lets say a 9m since its the most generic in the states for handguns and general defense glocks any hand gun really, you fuckign think a pee shooter will help at that point? didn't think so fuck tard
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>>683095945
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms
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In Switzerland, everyone joins the military and gets to keep their gun after they leave. Incredibly low crime rates there. Also the US is more diverse than europe
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>>683103704
Murica - "fuck, help, we got shot"
Rest of world - "wb remive guns from equation "
Murica - "fuck off cunt we dont care if ppl die"
Repeat
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>>683095945
What part of the definition of "amendment" do you not understand?
Amendments can be.. amended. Wow, who would've thought it.
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>>683103690
Doesn't matter, they kill a lot of people and make our country a more dangerous place to live. If my son is killed by a car, I will take no solace in the fact the car has a purpose that you deem necessary.
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>>683104109>>683102816
also fyi i bet you the people that don't resist and get killed generally the person who killed them probably had a huge grudge against them to do it. also where are your stats, i wanna see the stats of robberies leading to homicides and robberies where people resist and don't die
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>>683104356
why do you care so much what we do?

just because your leftist regime nanny state controls every aspect of your life, doesn't mean you get to control every aspect of ours.
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>>683104356
Yep. Meanwhile all the black ghetto families are having 10 kids a piece while the upper class white families only have one or two.
It's only going to get worse as the cycle goes on.
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>>683104498
> we don't get shot though
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Because then planning a school shooting gets that much more difficult
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>>683104677
you don't do anything.

you haven't done anything for centuries.

all you do is buy scarves and talk about america like a bunch of backseat drivers.
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>>683102138

True. Getting into a safe can be a pain in the ass.

However there's fast access safes where you can fingerprint or put in a number pad code to quickly gain access... if you have your firearm inside loaded then it'll take you several seconds to gain access for protection...

If you are in Australia you are fucked even with this because you can't store them loaded and the ammo has to be locked in a separate lockable box/safe inside the big safe.
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Fuck you! I live in America and have been shooting guns since I was a child. If you don't like our laws then don't come here. What happens here is none of your damn business.
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>>683090275
Germany has rather strict gun laws and we had lots of school shooty shooty bang bangs
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>>683104436
That's just you being irrational, though.

A car helps me get to my job, therefore contribute to national GDP and the economy.

A gun ain't helping anyone. It kills. That's all it does.
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>>683104109
You keep calling it a pea shooter, so I'm going to guess you don't know anything about guns. Obviously an auto can give you an upper hand, but a 9mm will still kill or incapacitate. And the anti gun control argument is that further restricting guns won't stop criminals from owning guns, because criminals overwhelmingly use illegally acquired guns. And in case you've forgotten, the US is saturated with guns, it literally is too late.
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>>683104007
So are you suggesting I just get up and move to another country? Another great suburban concept you've come up with.
Do you think first world countries are Utopias? i live in a city, obviously you have no life experience because you're talking out of your ass. No, it's not acceptable. It's fucking life.
Where dis you ever get that I think that's acceptable. Get the fuck off this thread if you don't have a leg in the race. You're small jabs don't make any sense.
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>>683104498
Idk about everyone in America but school shooting arent every aspect of our lives here
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>>683104998
Then stop fucking complaining when someone gets shot fgt
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>>683104109
Did you hear someone say "hurr id rather be stabbed" and think that's a good answer?
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>>683105034
yes i call it pee shooters, because a 9 m is a pee shooter unless u hit in the head arms/hands to disarm or elgs to hopefully knock off balance before he pumps u full of led.

also you realize how expensive the underground market for gunsd would get, you don't seem to realize the dramatic change that would happen with laws/legislation if you guys would actually think about the future of things instead of living in the past and only thinking about whats gonna affect you 2 weeks down the fucking road
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>>683105364
let me see here, lethality compaired to a gun, yeh ill take the knife over the gun, dumbass
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>>683105143
>when muricans are this deluded
>thinking having a gun pointed at you is part of life

> you poor soul

I'll just continue living my life, never having to worry about being shot, in my high paying job and good standard of living and perfectly happy.

Enjoy staring down a barrel, fgt.
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>>683105034
and yes i do, otherwise i wouldn't call it a pee shooter and be so opinionated I'm not some americunt who spouts shit for the sake of spouting shit, if u want i can fill half your webrowser page with a full proper spelling grammar argument but this is b,
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>>683104549
You know china had a great way of dealing with that
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>>683105649
>Paris

Die on your knees, faggot. If you're too weak to raise a weapon, you will be subjugated by someone who isn't.
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>>683105532
>i don't own guns and live in a suburb
>take everyone's guns they don't need it
>rather get stabbed than shot.
I'd rather brandish my weapon and not get mugged.
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>>683105149
well, certainly you can understand, this is a thread about gun control.

there are threads about u.s. presidential elections, u.s. weight control, u.s. music, u.s. race relations, u.s. military, all going on right now on this website. each of those threads either started by, participated by or trolled by meddling foreigners.

they set out to insult the u.s.. it's fine that you don't like the u.s., but why waste time constantly talking about a place that you deem so shitty? why not just let us be shitty in peace? why not stop coming here? why not stop obsessing over our culture?
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>>683103196
>20
What source almighty shitposter?
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>>683105887
ok anon
if you say so
ok
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>>683105429
Well then, if it's a pea shooter, I don't see the danger in people owning them. You have convinced me that they are anemic, ineffective, and hard to kill anyone with them. Buying three for my neighbor's kids. Literally stop getting your gun knowledge from Call of Duty.
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>>683105887
at least I'll be killed from someone outside the country, rather than someone who's lived inside it and armed themselves perfectly legally.
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>>683105923
Winchester model 100 .308 rifle, i like guns to, but for fucking hunting, I'm Canadian, fuck americah, can't wait for your country to crash and burn so you know what keep the guns, better yet add RPG's in the mix, it will speed up the process
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>>683099829
Make?
Also nice sight
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>>683105649
You're what's wrong with this country.
Not that I believe you have a high paying job, but faggots like you who aren't even in the situation, no leg in the race, think you know what's best.
You're a faggot plain and simple.
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>>683090275
we must think as a hive mind
we all must make sacrifices towards the evolution of humanity
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>>683105923
>assuming the mugger isn't armed too and shoots you first
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>>683106013
Nah, he's right. 9mm is a faggot round. They occasionally ricochet off skulls.

Stop pretending you know anything about firearms.
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>>683106108
Another faggot with no leg in the race, trying to pretend he has an argument
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>>683106223
What country?
I don't live in this apparent "land of freedumb"
You don't have an argument at all. You just say shit like "no leg in the race" or "no life experience". You actually can't argue because you're a typical murifat idiot who can't see reason.
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>>683090275
instead they knife eachother, bomb eachother, poison, strangle. If you wan't to kill somebody, or many people, you're going to do it any means necessary. Guy just stabbed a 7 year old girl in a park in broad daylight today. Explain that?
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>>683106430
>deluded
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>>683106323
You're further convincing me that they are as safe to own as a bb gun, since it's near impossible to kill someone with a 9mm. If you're trying to prove that guns are dangerous, you're doing the opposite.
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>>683104356
Rest of the world- "Help we're getting robbed or victimized, better call the police while I'm getting stabbed or shot with illegally obtained weapons and butt fucked at the time time! Gun control totally works!

America-Someone trying to cause harm to me? No problem i have the best means of personal defense which are guns

>Cuck detected
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>>683106234
You would give an answer like that. And it comes down to niggers. I'm responsible, they aren't. I'm registered, they aren't.
You're a faggot and I'm straight.
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>>683090275
Cause if there were no guns it would just be with bows and arrows or knives and swords. A good killer is gonna choose the best weapons he can get to kill as many as possible.
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>>683101118
youre daft, our 'free' healthcare isn't completely free (and only covers certain things) eyes/teeth/feet need not apply.

wait times for mental health treatment are months long, and that's if you're approved. basically if you need to talk to someone about your problems you have to lie about suicide to see someone. If not, you're fucked cause you have to pay for private psychologists.

yay for our 'free' healthcare. every year little by little we cut out more of our coverage because spec medical groups and lobbyists talk about 'muh wealth'
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>>683106430
your version of arguing is attacking everyone elses argument by taking what they say out of context and shame them by generalizing to make and argument sound stupid without actually constructing a argument to support your cause at all, basically mud slinging to avoid actually thought into proving your point, fuck you faggot
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End of story is I like my gun,my friends like theirs and fuck you and your life if you try to make it so I can't have them
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Well I mean Paris was so safe during the attacks weren't they?
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>>683104396

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" Try removing an amendment when it clearly states it shall not be removed, retard.
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>>683090275
why the fuck do you think no country has ever invaded this land? If they step up, they would have THE BIGGEST militia in the fucking universe ready to fight against them. Feel safe, it's because of the 2nd amendment. You cant blame guns when 90% of these morons that shoot up schools are off their medication. Blame pharmaceuticals, blame bad parenting.
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>>683106588
who said it was, you realize if someone has a high caliber gun that's iullegal compaired to a 9mm and you both shoot eachothers legs lets say, that 9mmm will partial cripple the other guy go right into the leg cause damage, the other guys illegally acquired high callibur round will make it so you have to amputate that fucking leg
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