There is a way out if you want there to be, was on a liter of vodka a day for near enough 5 years, went into 30 day detox and am sorta clean now. I do go on binges, but in the past year I've drank maybe 10 times. 2 - 3 days usual amount.
But never mind that, how did you get into your drinking situation mate?
>>683091598 >how did you get into your drinking situation mate Long story short, shit happened early on that I never recovered from, kept drinking, became a habit, now I can't get drunk on half a bottle like I used to, half a bottle turned into a bottle, which turned into a litre, etc.
>>683091425 don`t you have family or friends? a good friend of mine is also an alcoholic for about 20 years now, and its painful watching him, can`t help him as long as he don`t want to. I guess you have to set goals or find some meaning in life, at least try to change your habbits, i guess thats the most difficult part
>>683091912 Sure it does. You talk about past problems. It is called the past for a reason. Let it go and stop being such a goddamned baby. Do you think everything just jumps into my lap without hard work? Do you think I haven't seen or experienced shitty chapters in my life (and trust me, there are enough)? You don't see me drinkijg my liver away.
Yup that's what happens, same story as mine basically. I won't even start drinking now unless I know I've got at least a week free and 3 or 4 liters of vodka.
I lost everything, and still didn't want to stop, then one day I thought fuck this shit and went into detox. I still love booze and will never be able to drink normally, but being sober is good, but not as good as being drunk. That first drink in the morning is the best feeling I've had, or will likely ever have.
>>683092165 well, a lot. My life could've been a lot better without the past alcohol use for sure. I have a decent job but could've been at a much higher position if I wasn't drinking. Could've had more friends/more GFs/more this and that if it wasn't for my drinking.
>>683090252 I was almost getting there. Not fun, used it as an escape alcoholism and diabeties runs in the family. Started with low grade booze then to top shelf then back down to bottom but just bought more of it. Sipped about a half pint of canadian mist mixed in my soda cup through work. After work hit the store get 2 talls of pacifico for the walk home with a pint for when i got home. Then i just slowed down on my own...idk what happened maybe something during my blackout moments. Hope you can make peace with whatever is that makes you drink sooner than later.
>>683092830 Also, start taking milk thistle. seriously. if you take anything make it milk thistle. I don't take a b complex because I eat 1-2 cans of sardines a day, but take milk thistle because hurdur.
>>683092575 Well thats not that bad either, the friend of me is also in his 40s now, at least he stopped drinking hard stuff, drinks beer most of the time, maybe you should give it a try and gradually decrease the amount of alcohol
I'm not gonna judge, I have been an opiate addict on and off 15 years now. I grew up in the original great Florida OxyContin boom. But alcohol? How do you do it? How do you deal with the hangover? How do you live every single day hungover? Why not just do heroin at this point? If you are gonna flush your life away for a drug, why the fuck is it alcohol? I will never get that. It feels so bad compared to opiates. Hangovers are a nightmare, and you wake up every day with one. I would kill myself if I woke up every day hungover.
>>683093182 You seriously think I find this funny? I find it paphetic. I would help you if I could because I don't wish that kind of lifestyle for anyone. I don't get what goes around in your head and why you would grab alcohol when you know you have a problem. That's just plain ignorance and I find it sad that you don't have any goal.
I like being drunk because weird shit happens in my life when I'm drinking, and I enjoy watching other 'normal' peoples lives spiral out of control.
Just last night I was at a bar drinking by myself and a couple came in, when I noticed that it was my old neighbor Lou and another neighbor Morgan. I guess they are sleeping together, which is weird because the last time I saw him he was complaining about his wife probably cheating on him and the last time I saw her was when she on St Patricks day when she was trying to get Lou's wife to sleep with me.
Fuck you, I may have foreclosed on my house but your life is a shit show too.
>>683093284 It boosts liver function. it's amazing. at your rate I'd reccomended 2000mg a day of milk thistle. even better, stop dinking and take the milk thistle n high doses. if you aren't too far gone, it can actually reverse liver dmage. check it out.
>>683093399 Not the OP, but I preferred alcohol to opiates for a variety of reasons. Opiates made me feel good, but alcohol made me feel like the person I always wanted to be. Plus, once you're an addict or an alcoholic, getting the substance becomes the #1 concern. It's way easier to get booze than it is to get pills. Cheaper, don't have to worry about getting arrested, and don't have to deal with black drug dealers who want to kill or rob you. The reason so many addicts end up in prison is because of the things you need to do to maintain a drug habit. With booze, you really only have to worry about a DUI or blacking out/passing out in public.
>>683093597 >milk thistle. wouldn't recommend it tbh. if you really wanna annihilate an ulcer, you need the GAPS diet. i have ulcerative pancolitis, which means legit thousands upon thousands of ulcers to the point where i nearly bleed to death. the GAPS diet kicks the ever-loving shit out of ulcers and keeps them gone. this disease is supposed to be incurable and most doctors won't know about it, but i haven't had any symptoms for 15 years from a disease which was supposedly inevitably gonna require curative surgery within 6 months.
you're on /b/ so you can't be totally computer illiterate op. in which case
>DL & install tor >search reddit for darknetmarkets >through tor chose a market, register an account & look around for the LSD listings >go on localbitcoins & buy some btc >transfer to the market account you created >buy some LSD
risk is pretty much 0 since you're just receiving paper. LSD will help you quit alcohol. once you've tripped a few times, I would recommend taking regular SMALL (below 30ug) doses every 3-4 days to stop depression instead of drinking.
>>683093839 Yes, you choose to be an alcoholic every time you open that bottle. That's your biggest problem, you alway lay the blame somewhere else. As already pointed out a few times in this thread; life is hard, deal with it. Also, don't assume my life has been good just because I'm not an alcoholic. For all that matter, chances are my life has been worse than yours. So shut the fuck up, stop drinking and be a fucking soldier, faggot.
>>683092955 I'm pretty much becoming what you are now 21 years old and drinking a lot more than usual for a year or so now, came back to this gay board and everything, in a bit of a hole Do the hangovers keep getting worse? I used to be able to deal with them but now they are just fucking ridiculous
>>683094153 I enjoy drinking. I drink too much. I'm not an alcoholic. I know this because.i am a smoker. I can stop drinking, I do it all the time for months on end. I am addicted to cigarettes. addiction is much different from what I experience with alcohol.
I'd probably need to ask some of my smarter friends, but I used to finish a big bottle of wine and then go to the bar and those nights always ended up with me either shitting my pants, losing something, or pulling my gun out.
also not op, but have to answer this. >>683093399 >How do you do it? How do you deal with the hangover? How do you live every single day hungover? Why not just do heroin at this point? If you are gonna flush your life away for a drug, why the fuck is it alcohol? honest truth, i don't fucking know, i just know i love it and EVERYTHING makes me think about alcohol. achieved something good? have a drink. something bad happened? have a drink. anything inbetween? may as well have a drink, i'm bored. tried therapy, counseling, CBT, anti depressants, anti psychotics, anti anxiety meds, i've OD'd on china white, i've smoked home-made, purified crack made from peruvian fishscale, i've spent thousands of pounds in hours... all of this in an attempt to stop drinking. i can't. the hangovers are staggeringly bad when you've been drunk for 22 fucking years and drink 40-70 shots a day. thing is i simply love alcohol, and i say this as someone who just 2 fucking weeks ago kicked heroin and has tried every single common street drug there is, all to excess, multiple ODs on multiple chems, been on detox, in comas, had DTs so bad i practically convulse... but i always come home to alcohol. it's going to kill me, i can't escape. legit past even caring at this point, death is nothing to be scared of.
>>683094350 >So, because I didn't turn to any bottle, I'm a princess? no. but your attitude makes you one. your highness noticed the reaction people have to your posts? you have something to contribute please do. you have advice? please provide you want to take the moral high ground and call people here losers? please get the fuck out.
>>683094868 why? i've gone cold turkey after a 5 year opiate binge. i've had a doc fuck up a spinal tap and ram a needle into a nerve in my spine. so much pain i lost consciousness. that was not fucking fun let me tell you, but i coped. i'll probably die choking comfortably on vomit while in a cosy coma.
>>683095186 well i'm 6ft3 so still skinny af, but i force myself to eat every day. something healthy. otherwise i'll go like 4-5 days and eat nothing, esecially if im using heroin as well as drinking. i just force food down whether i want to or not, along with some vitamins and supplements.
>>683095859 £100 a gram for some delicious as fuck fishscale. i can get standard stuff for £60, but fuck it, i'd rather not waste the money. >>683095936 a wrap of heroin, with some melting on the foil.
I make my own brandy (I have a peach tree in my yard and use that to make it awesome) and that cost a bit of money to set up and I also buy really good moon shine, not shit flavored stuff. That all costs a bit more.
But right now it's 10:21am and I'm drinking Miller lite. I grabbed a sixer after a date last night and it's in my fridge. Actually it's a pretty good beer for the morning. Lite but crisp, makes my throat burn a little less since I have vomit burn on my tongue. Sort of like ginger ale when you have a cold.
Seems to be a decent amount of collective knowledge here right now. How haven't your hearts given out yet? Been drinking a lot recently for about the past half year or so and my chest when I lay down during a hangover feels like its gonna explode, uncomfortably aware of my own heart beat
>>683096087 heart seems to be ok, and i seem to be invincible. i have lost part of my eyesight (brain lesions) due to drugs and booze, but 37 now, haven't been sober since i was 15, everything seems to be in order when i go to the docs.
>>683096566 I think the only significant medical problems I've gotten came from fucking a girl who ended up having chlamydia and the time I broke my hand punching someone.
Seriously. I've probably been sober two or three days a month every month for the last five years and I go to the doctor often and everything is pretty good. Blood pressure, prostate, heart, stomach, weight, etc are all good.
>>683090252 I'm an alcoholic, been trying to quit for sometime now. It's tough. But I did make some progress, I used to drink rum daily. used to feel like shit all the time, then I started on beer, it really helped me cut back.
Honestly, try to just slowly taper off at this point, try what I did, dump what you got and replace that liter of whisky with a liter of beer and just slowly drink that, it will give you the buzz, but it's a lot less harsh on your body. I've gone from a pint of rum a day, went to a 6 pack of tall cans a day, now I am down to 6 light bottles a day, less than 5 standard drinks.
Eventually I think I'll just stop, but I feel a lot better.
>>683098140 See I enlisted in the good old days of constant deployments and absolutely no question on conduct if your proficiency was good. we were in Iraq or some weird training environment too often, so everyone knew we were going to be fucked up.
I still remember my Sgt going out to lunch with his Sgt buddies and always showing up for PFC time with some fortys for us. What a nice fucking dude?
He bought unquestionable loyalty for $2.30 at the PX
>>683100064 I feel their pain. I'm trying to convince myself I"m a woman and taking estrogen and assholes keep telling me I'm a man. It's a real struggle, alcoholics and trannies are in the same boat. Hopefully it sinks.
>>683090252 Do you want advice on how to quit? If not, disregard; if yes, read on.
AA meetings work, but they suck balls to attend. Solution? Bring the AA meetings to you. It's called Joe and Charlies Big Book Study or some shit. It's a folder full of mp3 files that's all over the torrent sites. It's essentially a meeting that you can attend whenever and however you want. Download that shit bro; burn it to disk, your phone, iPod, usb drive and everything in between. Listen to it privately if even for 2 minutes at a time but preferably longer. Listen to it in your car while commuting. You don't have to take notes or even remember where you left off. If the first 5 minutes keep you from drinking that night, then listen to those same 5 minutes the next day. Hit random, go for a walk, hit next if it gets annoying, etc. Enjoy the benefits of attending AA meetings without the embarrassment or shame of being surrounded by strangers. Admit you have a problem, see yourself without that problem, begin healing; and do this one day at a time. I love you, /b/ro. Godspeed.
Only suggestion i can give you OP is buy in bulk to save you money and pace yourself to prevent from getting any worse. I get a case of 12 of kraken rum in 1.75L for about 150 bones from total wine and about 50 bones in tall cans through said month. I rarley go to bars and only go out when iam treating the family.
>>683090252 Where are you from? I may be able to sell you some stolen but legit alcohol. I work in a wholesales warehouse and I always get about 3-10 bottles every week, we always put it down as damage write-off.
Its some good shit though, even expensive 70€ a bottle sometimes. But it has to be always something different though so I cant be consistent in delivery. It would be suspicious if only Johnny Walkers get damaged.
>>683101543 LOL! i work as purchase manager and i swear i take that shit into account everytime i see "lost due to damaged rate/accident/rats/whatever bullshit that day" i think to myself CHEERS MOTHERFUCKERS! I WISH I KNOW YOU IRL! and just pass it on to accounting as Within tolerance parameter damage expense
Anyone here ever had strange alcohol drems where they can't tell of they are asleep or awake? And when they can't tell reality from dreams? Also, has anyone ever thought that everything seems harsh and evil during alcohol withdrawal? Like if you go out into public it seems everyone is evil and miserable and is against you? Like everything is chaotic? Kek maybe I'm just a freak
>>683102322 It is something of a cliché among runners, how the activity never fails to clear your head. Does some creative block have you feeling stuck? Go for a run. Are you deliberating between one of two potentially life-altering decisions? Go for a run. Are you feeling mildly mad, sad, or even just vaguely meh? Go for a run, go for a run, go for a run.
>>683102927 The author Joyce Carol Oates once wrote in a column for the New York Times that “in running the mind flees with the body … in rhythm with our feet and the swinging of our arms.” Filmmaker Casey Neistat told Runner’s World last fall that running is sometimes the only thing that gives him clarity of mind. “Every major decision I’ve made in the last eight years has been prefaced by a run,” he told the magazine. But I maybe like the way a runner named Monte Davis phrased it best, as quoted in the 1976 book The Joy of Running: “It’s hard to run and feel sorry for yourself at the same time,” he said. “Also, there are those hours of clear-headedness that follow a long run.”
>>683103018 A good run can sometimes make you feel like a brand-new person. And, in a way, that feeling may be literally true. About three decades of research in neuroscience have identified a robust link between aerobic exercise and subsequent cognitive clarity, and to many in this field the most exciting recent finding in this area is that of neurogenesis. Not so many years ago, the brightest minds in neuroscience thought that our brains got a set amount of neurons, and that by adulthood, no new neurons would be birthed. But this turned out not to be true. Studies in animal models have shown that new neurons are produced in the brain throughout the lifespan, and, so far, only one activity is known to trigger the birth of those new neurons: vigorous aerobic exercise, said Karen Postal, president of the American Academy of Clinical Neuropsychology. “That’s it,” she said. “That’s the only trigger that we know about.”
>>683103142 The other fascinating thing here is where these new cells pop up: in the hippocampus, a region of the brain associated with learning and memory. So this could help explain, at least partially, why so many studies have identified a link between aerobic exercise and improvement in memory. “If you are exercising so that you sweat — about 30 to 40 minutes — new brain cells are being born,” added Postal, who herself is a runner. “And it just happens to be in that memory area.”
>>683103348 Other post-run changes have been recorded in the brain’s frontal lobe, with increased activity seen in this region after people adopt a long-term habit of physical activity. This area of the brain — sometimes called the frontal executive network system — is located, obviously enough, at the very front: It’s right behind your forehead. After about 30 to 40 minutes of a vigorous aerobic workout – enough to make you sweat – studies have recorded increased blood flow to this region, which, incidentally, is associated with many of the attributes we associate with “clear thinking”: planning ahead, focus and concentration, goal-setting, time management.
>>683103450 But it’s this area that’s also been linked to emotion regulation, which may help explain the results of one recent study conducted by Harvard psychology professor Emily E. Bernstein. Like Postal, Bernstein is also a runner, and was curious about a pattern she saw in her own mind after a run. “I notice in myself that I just feel better when I’m active,” she said. She started to become really interested in the intervention studies that have popped up in recent years that suggest if you can get people who are having trouble with mood or anxiety to exercise, it helps. “But why?” she wanted to know. “What is exercise actually doing?”
AA is not for everybody, but it does tend to help people for whom no other method of getting sober worked.
If you're just a heavy drinker, or have "a drinking problem," then you probably don't need AA and can just get sober on your own. Likewise if you still have your job, your family, friends, etc... But AA is often the only thing that works for really bad, late-stage alcoholics.
>>683104330 >What are your hobbies and interests? nothing of late really. i enjoy a good book and a good drink, but literally nothing else for the last 8-10 years. i am looking though. just have not found my thing yet i think.
>be me >25 with nothing to show for it >get in relationship with an amazing woman >truck shits the bed >lose my job because two people working and going to school out of one vehicle is fucked up >she makes loads more money than me >always been a drinker but never heavily >feel guilty about gf bringing home the bacon >feel bad that i have nothing anymore just her >the drinking starts gradually >its helps the loneliness >start getting TOO comfy letting her be the supporter >start drinking everynight out of sheer boredom >after I do chores and shit, whatever i can do to seem like im making some sort of effort >i go for the bottle, as if to reward myself >it spirals >start drinking ' the hair of the dog ' to avoid hangovers >thats the slippery slope >start waking up taking shots of vodka >barely eating, beer makes up most my daily calories >started getting withdrawel symptoms when out of booze >not bad at first just like a super hangover >realize i dont want to be a full blown alcohol >sheer willpower >would have a drink after 6pm, no sooner. >when i wake up, its coffee and food >start feeling better. >start sleeping better >my appetite is back >beer gut is disappearing >no longer take yellow diarrhea squirts all day >instead its a nice thick turd log >feels good man >i never thought id enjoy myself if i didnt have an alcohol buzz >i proved myself wrong
I still drink, i prolly drink too much still, but living with the fear of withdrawel is a nightmare.
And pretty soon the pleasure you got from drinking turns into a demon.
Fix yourself brothers, alcohol is much better with its a leisure activity instead of a conviction.
trust me, iv been where some of you have been, with the same mindsets, its not too late.
>>683104478 I'm not sure about the best solution, but many people find relief with things like therapy, new hobbies, exercise, etc...
That said, AA will still work for people like this. They're just less likely to stick around because they are not as desperate as the guy who nearly drank himself to death and has nothing. There is some bullshit in AA and this often discourages people from sticking around, if they feel they have other options.
>>683105188 i can take bullshit. it's just that i can't take a risk of anyone knowing i see therapy. i know how fucked up that sounds but my social relation is actually in a backward fuck country that appearances is all that matters
i am really trying to be a better person but somehow i keep fucking up which leads me to believe i need i help. but at the same time it must be discreet
>>683108562 thankfully my liver is fine but i am a nurse and to put it lightly it isn't pretty. throwing up blood is a common sight and having a swollen abdomen all the time is unsightly and it looks agonizing. not to mention that it's a death sentence. our job is to simply prolong the life of those diagnosed with it as they cling on to the hope that a donor becomes available. the waiting lists are massive so in reality we are only making our patients suffer more. you would definitely have some form of liver damage but the damage may be reversed or at the very least lessened. look op I'm not going to preach to you but unless you want to become jaunt and throw up your insides i suggest that you cut the crap
>>683110111 and you think that we don't know that? if it wasn't clear to me that this is a fucking death sentence i am imposing on myself i wouldn't be asking anons for advice how to stop. i keep promising myself i will stop but somehow find myself back on that shit.
Chronic alcohol. Been drinking a fifth of Jameson and a Six pack almost every day for a few years. Was starting to have liver pains, acute pancreatitis and the DTs every time I stopped. Was pretty sure death was imminent so I decided to stop. Been taking 50 mgs of naltrexone and 500 mgs of antabuse every day and haven't had a drink in a month now. This is definitely working way, way better for me than any other recovery program I've ever tried. Feel totally great. You definitely need someone to help you with it otherwise you'll just slip and not take your pills.
>>683110708 >implying i remember anything i have picked up two girls this year though, legit just on the street. i was so drunk, just walking past them i told them they were coming home with me and said it so confidently they did.
>>683112171 may as well have been tbh, i made one of them so uncomfortable. intentionally, i mean. doing seriously nasty shit to her, taking photos of her (and her fucking wedding ring, lol) even though she begged me not to. she's coming back next weekend. dunno if i've ever legit raped anyone. probably. i did once fuck a girl who claimed to be legal but i later found out may have only been 15. plus i've definitely carried on fucking when a girl has asked me in no uncertain terms to stop. is it still rape if they cum?
>>683090252 >>>683090252 >Do you want advice on how to quit? If not, disregard; if yes, read on. > >AA meetings work, but they suck balls to attend. Solution? Bring the AA meetings to you. It's called Joe and Charlies Big Book Study or some shit. It's a folder full of mp3 files that's all over the torrent sites. It's essentially a meeting that you can attend whenever and however you want. Download that shit bro; burn it to disk, your phone, iPod, usb drive and everything in between. Listen to it privately if even for 2 minutes at a time but preferably longer. Listen to it in your car while commuting. You don't have to take notes or even remember where you left off. If the first 5 minutes keep you from drinking that night, then listen to those same 5 minutes the next day. Hit random, go for a walk, hit next if it gets annoying, etc. Enjoy the benefits of attending AA meetings without the embarrassment or shame of being surrounded by strangers. Admit you have a problem, see yourself without that problem, begin healing; and do this one day at a time. I love you, /b/ro. Godspeed. >under rated post Wow! Good advice on b. Just Wow!
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