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Gary Johnson 2016
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faggot
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Trump and Clinton?
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>>683040444
>Gary Johnson facts

1. No one is going to vote for him
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search interest doesn't mean shit
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>>683040699
>>683040763

2.Gary Johnson has done jack shit in terms of fundraising or awareness
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>>683040980
>still shitposting

faggot
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>>683041056
>>683041108
>>683041160
your faggotry is mighty OP

mighty
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>>683041387
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>>683041513

you are such a faggot OP
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>>683041619
go to bed Gary
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Why don't you sit down while you jimmies are rustled.
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>>683040187
Gary Johnson=loser 2016
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>>683041798
YOU SHUT UP FAGGOT
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>>683041792
says the faggot shitposting Magic Johnson memes
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Do you feel the Johnson?
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Pro guns
Pro weed
And wants to keep the government out of your life.
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>another dumb Gary Johnson pic
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>another stupid reminder of what a cringefag OP is
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Bahahaha I love listening to Trumptards. Deep down they know Shillary will beat them unless they rally behind Johnson.
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>>683042576
GODDAMMIT FAGGOT SHUT UP
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Are you like his gay lover or some shit?
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>>683042754
he's gonna cut your taxes you boys
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>>683042908
>the campaign is resonating
>cricket sounds heard coast to coast

pick one
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Does this mother fucker look like he wants more regulation in government? Hell fucking no.
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>>683043207
another faggot who doesn't understand why there are so many regs to begin with

figures
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>>683040625
I am and you should too. This election is the perfect time to do so since the two major parties have shitty meme candidates. We should at least get the third party votes very high so the normies can see there are more than two options.
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>>683041269
Kill yourself faggot.
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Why are you wasting time with Trump. Do you want Shillary to win?
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A vote for anyone but Trump is a vote for Clinton

Get fucked independents.
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>>683043429
except nobody knows or gives a shit about Gary Johnson

you are pushing for an asshole who doesn't even know how to run for President
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>>683042323
Fucking this

>>683042393
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>>683041798
>>683041747
>>683041573
>>683042754

Weak as fuck
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There is only one way to stop Shillary.
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>>683043586
your faggotry is now beyond mighty

beyond the beyond of possible realms of faggotry
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>>683043816
keep shitposting OP

nobody gives a fuck about your non-candidate

nobody

nobody nobody nobody nobody nobody nobody nobody nobody nobody nobody
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Anything other than the democrats is fine with me.
Id love Gary Johnson, but Trump is just fine too.
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>>683044090
inb4 404

that's how cringe your thread is

4 0 4
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>>683043906

Pro 3rd world immigration
Anti-Social Security
Anti-zoning
pro-milk shitter
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>>683040187
3rd party for 2016!
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>>683044222
Y-YOU SHUT UP FAGGOT GODDAMMIT
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>>683040340
I like this, but I'm pretty sure Trump should be the giant douche.
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>>683043707
it's actually the other way around

Republicans always have enough votes
it's the Democrats who get fucked by 3rd parties
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I think Trumptards like big government telling them what to do just like Shillary supporters.
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>>683040625
/thread
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>>683044739
I'll bite

what is "big government" telling you "what to do?"

you sound like a petulant child
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We can beat Shillary. Trump is a lost cause.
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>>683045243
you can't even beat off OP

your mindset is super super cringe it's beyond all known levels,. even the secret levels
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>>683044960
If someone wants to smoke weed then they should be able to.
If you want to trade with someone in another country then do so without taxes. The efficiency of comparative advantage benefits both parties.
If you want to own a gun then you should be able to get one.
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>10 posters
>77 replies

kek
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>>683045493
none of that has even an inkling of an effect on your life whatsoever
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Come on guys lets get this guy into office!!
2016 Transhumanist Party Presidential Candidate
ZOLTAN ISTVAN
Futurist, philosopher, speaker and journalist
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>>683045723
>successful
>can't raise funds for shit

k
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>>683045937
yeah you and 10 posters are going to get this nobody into office

have fun faggot
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2016 Transhumanist Party Presidential Candidate

Zoltan Istvan

Futurist, philosopher, speaker and journalist
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>>683045736
Yous trollin', nigga.
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>>683046174
I didn't realize that you got arrested for pot

that you can't get a gun

and you're actually some dude "trading" with another country and not some butthurt lolbertarian talking shit

my bad
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>>683045919
said nobody ever
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>>683040187
Actually enjoy President Trump faggot

because that's who you're voting for if you think there are any other options politically than what we're being offered

don't like it? get off your fucking ass and join a movement to start a viable 3rd party

but no you'd rather just troll faggots to lazy to get up and open another beer
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>>683046483
1. Are you fucking stupid? People get arrested all the time for that shit. Check out our fully booked prisons.

2. Have you not fucking seen how the government is trying to take out 2nd ammendment away?

3. Any time you buy something at a store from another country that tax is being applied.
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>>683047067
>Have you not fucking seen how the government is trying to take out 2nd ammendment away

no

jesus you fucking guns are paranoid
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>>683042323
>wants to keep the government out of your life.
Actually I want government in my life to raise the minimum wage
I want government in my life to get a system of single payer healthcare
I want government in my life to protect people from hate crimes and discrimination
I want government in my lie to punish polluters, and mitigate climate change issues
and I want government in my life like the fire department and law enforcement

fuck you and you utopian honor system bullshit
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https://www.lp.org/platform
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>>683047810
1. low taxes
2. ignore social problems
3. low taxes
4. aid and abet corporate tyranny through deregulation
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>>683044425

Ross Perot.
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>>683047988
You realize that with less regulation there is more competition for big business in the market from smaller companies? That helps consumers and employees.
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>>683048134
Clinton still won
dillweed
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We have over 130,000 pages of regulation. It's a miracle we even have new businesses in this country.
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>>683048219
no actually I realize less regulation means a repeat of the corporate malfeasance we saw in 2008

you lolbertarians can't even remember recent history
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>>683048509
jesus the butthurt
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>>683040813
dont turn him into a cuck
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>>683048509
yeah reduce that number to 0 and we'll have a sociological paradise within 5 years

faggot
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>>683048509
actually what would be a miracle is you even figuring out how to start a business
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>>683043322

Many of regulations are implemented for no reason other than to collect fees. Others are there only to protect existing businesses from competition.

Example of bullshit to raise money: In Connecticut, there is a $50 fee to get a license to upholster furniture. There's no exam. There's no experience requirement. It's just a bullshit fee to raise money.

Example of bullshit to prevent competition: taxi medallions.
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>>683048558
This was from the government melding in the market and giving poor people free money. They had no way of getting rid of the bad risk the government incentivized. Educate yourself.
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>>683048980
13 poster
144 replies

TOP ZOZ
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>>683049008
>Many of regulations are implemented for no reason other than to collect fees.
bullshit
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>>683049008
>there is a $50 fee to get a license to upholster furniture.
oh horrors how would anyone get their hands on such an exorbitant sum of money?
we're RUINED
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>>683049008
Ah, the grand efficiency of government.
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>>683049266
>samefagging this hard
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>>683049022
>Educate yourself.
says the faggot who doesn't realize deregulation caused the 2008 Financial Crisis

I really hope this thread is just shitty b8 faggot

I can't believe idiots like you really exist outside of an RV park
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>>68304933
samefagging this hard
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>>683048310

Yes, I know. That was the point. The Democrats did NOT get fucked by that third party candidate. The Republican did.
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>>683049472
>I really hope this thread is just shitty b8
>implying it isn't
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>>683048980
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>>683049643
but they will now because retards are actually considering switching sides to spite the Dems

if you are voting anyone else,. you are giving Trump a 3rd hand
we need all the votes we can get to elect Clinton
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>>683049069

I just gave you an example.

>>683049219

The point isn't the cost for that one particular thing. The government taxes a lot of people a little bit for no reason.

Another example: Connecticut requires $142 in fees, a mandatory 730 days experience, completion of coursework, and an exam to work as a conveyor operator. No other state in the country requires a license for this. It's a bullshit licensing requirement that every other state somehow manages to do without.
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>>683049823
yeah sure blame the fact someone can't make a businessplan work on government
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>>683049823
doe market saturation
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>>683050205
you said "many regulations" and then gave some obscure example nobody cares about

you cannot prove that regulations are by and large superfluous

pure assumption with your paranoid anti-government filter turned on
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>>683050205
>The government taxes a lot of people a little bit for no reason.

you're just full of cool stories aren't you bro
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>>683049876

I don't want either Clinton or Trump.

There are more Republicans in the Never Trump camp than there are Democrats who will switch to team Trump.
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>>683049823
"
Small Businesses in the U.S. on the Rise, Reversing Six-Year Downward Trend

12/03/15

ohhhhhhh SNAP

http://www.kauffman.org/newsroom/2015/12/small-businesses-in-the-us-on-the-rise-in-2015-reversing-six-year-downward-trend
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>>683050548
well too bad
because your holier than thou attitude is one more vote taken away from someone who could beat Trump
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Why do you guys set yourself for such disappointment?
Johnson, Ron Paul, Sanders
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>>683050248

Regulations are actually a pretty common complaint among business owners. It often ranks higher than taxes.
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>>683050205
>Another example: Connecticut requires $142 in fees, a mandatory 730 days experience, completion of coursework, and an exam to work as a conveyor operator. No other state in the country requires a license for this. It's a bullshit licensing requirement that every other state somehow manages to do without.

so you're not in favor of states' rights?
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>>683050960
too bad you can't make a corrolation

but you sure know how to complain and blame government for people's mistakes
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>>683050396

I'm giving you examples of bullshit regulations. They exist in every state, at every level of government. There is no possible way to do a systematic study of all of them.


Another example: Connecticut requires $129 in fees and an exam to work as a forest worker. Duties include things like transporting seedlings and planting trees. No other state in the country requires a license for this.
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>>683050960
another faggot who somehow thinks "small government" is a viable solution for a country of 400 million people

there is a word for that, you know:

OLIGARCHY
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>>683051361
you cannot prove the vast bulk of regulations are superfluous or not needed

you're just talking shit
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>>683051361
>Connecticut
here's a thought:

maybe you should move out of there

go to New Hampshire
meet some likeminded people
go shooting with them
lighten up
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>>683050654


Just skimming the intro, it doesn't look like you're helping yourself much. It says it went up for 1 year, reversing a 6 year downtrend. It also says that the gains remain below pre-recession levels. It's says that it is slightly above the historical norm... but only if you limit the historical norm to 20 years, which mostly includes the entire shitty Bush and Obama economies.
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>>683050892

It's a vote on principle. I despise everything about Trump, and Hillary is only a hair better.
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>>683051864
doesn't matter

I already handed you your ass when I pointed out that you cannot prove government was the reason for the decline in the first place

if there really was

kek
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>>683050990
>so you're not in favor of states' rights?

No. State's don't have rights. They have powers. Only individuals have rights.

But to answer the follow up, I want very limited government at every level, not just at the federal level.
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Could 4chan/chans ever band together and influence who becomes president?
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>>683052164
>State's don't have rights.
you are retarded
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>>683052189
no

/thread
please god
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>>683051401

You... you realize that Oligarchy would most accurately have described a Jeb-Hillary election?

Oligarchy does not mean small government. It means control of government by a small number of people. The government itself can be quite large.
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>>683051826

I moved to Virginia, but I'm more familiar with Connecticut laws, so I'm still referencing there.
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>>683051995

We established that government regulations are increasing and that entrepreneurship is in a long term downtrend. That's a correlation.

I can outright prove that government regulations limit the creation of new businesses because THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT SOME OF THEM ARE DESIGNED TO DO. Taxi medallions, for example.

>if there really was

Living in denial much?
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>>683052247

Do you not understand the difference between rights and powers?
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Starve the beast!
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>>683040966
Suck a dick pussy
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>>683041051
Don't you mean baa baaa
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>>683040625
Im voting for him also. My family hates trump and cant stand hillary. They now have an option.
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California just raised the age limit of smoking to 21. That's cigarettes, btw.

Keep up those regulations, tho
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I'm also voting for Johnson
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>>683049472
>2008
>thinks an economy that became based on fiat currency in 1933 didn't get problematic in 2008
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>>683049472
He means to say vote for the same people that were in charge during the financial crisis, what a fucking sheep.
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>>683047599
thats because your a socialist faggot
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Feel the Johnson!!!
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>>683055555

nigger
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The country is becoming more libertarian.
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How great would it be if all of a sudden everyone voted gary johnson for president.
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>>683057088

The key is getting in the debates. Last time it happened, Ross Perot got 19% of the vote and was leading in the polls before he dropped out for a few months.

He needs to be in more surveys and to build on that 11%.
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>>683056813

This needs to be his campaign slogan. And John McAfee as his running mate.
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>>683047599
Typical sheep liberal ignorance right here.
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>>683057482
Im gonna disagree. Mcafee is guilty of murder in another country. A known child preditor. Hes also a know drug addict. It would all be used against him and would ruin any chance johnson would have.
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Vote with your Johnson in 2016
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>>683047599
>raise minimum wage

Kids in school should still work for 7.75. They don't need a living wage.
My healthcare costs very very little.
No one is taking away any of the shit you mentioned either. Libertarians aren't anarchist or minarchists. They just want to government to let people do things as long as they don't hurt other people inherently. You will be able to own a gun so you can go shoot a target safely. You won't be able to dump radiation into a lake because fuck it.
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>>683057534
I had a talk with my 15 year old sister about this today. She was saying how we should have government funded college.

I explained how its a noble thought of her for thinking and looking out for her fellow man. The issue is that the government no matter how badly you want them to be have will alwayd have the opportunity for abuse and it will be abused. Also, the funding will be taken from each and everyone of us hard working individuals to pay more as the government will essentially be maintaining a monopoly and not allowing for competition to drive prices down. Government regulations are a large reason why schools cost so much as it is. To think givong full control to government is insanity.
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Endorsed by Captain America
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>>683055096
Sup new mexifag
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>>683058050
this
so much this
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>>683057753
>Mcafee is guilty of murder in another country.

No, he was a person of interest. Not the same thing. He was never even charged with murder, let along found guilty of it.

>A known child preditor.

Hadn't heard that. Source?

>Hes also a know drug addict.

Gary Johnson also admits to using drugs....

McAfee has (had?) $100 million. The LP is always desperate for money and McAfee certainly still has a big pile left. And McAfee would be almost as good at getting media attention as Trump.
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>>683058611
I suppose youre right. He fled the country before he was found guilty.
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>>683058281

Needs some girls in the background.
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>>683046570
said me when Cruz got out.
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>>683058611
Yeah gary johnson smokes pot. Mcafee snorts bathsalts and who knows whatelse. No one in their right mind ia going to vote for mcafee
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>>683058712

He was never charged with murder. According to his explanation in the Fox Business debate, he fled the country because the government demanded a $2 million "contribution", and when he refused, they raided his house and confiscated $500,000 worth of stuff. They then spent a week torturing him and when they let him go, that's when he fled the country.
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>>683058929
have fun wasting your vote
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Very good chance Johnson gets in the debates. all he needs is 15% and he already has 11.

#feelthejohnson
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>>683059026
He doesn't smoke pot anymore, he just does not care if you smoke pot.
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>>683050892
>Sanders

hahahaha
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>>683040187

But its a two party system.
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>>683059026

Who's your alternative? Jim Gray? He's utterly useless.
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>>683041573
Don't get why you're being a huge faggot to this guy
Like do you honestly believe he's going to be able to rally support to beat your idol rump? Retard.
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>>683059066
hows the current system working for you?

My state is going (D) and fuck voting (D). (R) is a wasted vote too by your own estimation.
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>>683047599
You really should move here to Sweden, we have systems like that

only problem is that by 2020 only 45% of the population will be working and paying taxes to support the remaining elderly, sick, schools and everybody who doesn't want to work, which will probably collapse the country eventually
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>>683050892
Implying voting for trump or hillary isnt a complete disappointment. Most people in my social sphere cannot stand either bit are gonna vote for who they precieve the lesser of the two evils.

Im voting for johnson because i fundamentally agree with what he stands for.

Freedom
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>>683059732
so much this.
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>>683059622
Just get robot workers and move onto futuristic living models.
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>>683059732
Noice
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>>683059592
I could care less about the current system. I was gunning for Sanders but ill be fine however this election turns out.
If your state is going D, yup you have no voting power. Its all or nothing. Your voice will have no electoral representation and thats just tough shit. Change the system if you want
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>>683047599
Aye comrade
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>>683059280
You Americans don't actually have to vote for any of the candidates right?
You're just kind of "encouraged" to because that's what everyone else will do.
I mean you could vote for Homer Simpson if you wanted to couldn't you?
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Trump is a pussy.
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>>683048219
Yeah, like if the big companies would let the small ones grow without throwing prices through the window.

They can sustain loses for long until small companies go bankrupt or elsewhere
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>>683059732
You usually end up taking votes from the candidate that you would rather have if you had to choose between D or R.
Look at the 2000 election. People wanted a more progressive candidate so they went Green from Dem. As a result, Bush took it. Had they not supported Green, the president wouldve been Gore given how close the race was.
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>>683060073

You could write Homer Simpson in, but it wouldn't be counted. In almost every state the candidate has to sign off on getting write-in status in order for it to count.
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>>683060073
Mickey Mouse is a popular alternate, yes
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>>683060345
I don't understand this.
I mean didn't Al Gore make a huge friggin deal about environmental protection?
Why was Nader and not Gore "their guy"?
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>>683060275

As opposed to the current system, where the existing or large corporations bribe politicians to pass such complex regulations that it costs a start-up a million dollars in legal fees just to get off the ground?
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>>683059066
>Implying that voting in Trump or Hillary isn't a wasted vote
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>>683060565
I dont know, people are weird but thats the issue i have with voting 3rd party
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>>683060720
youre right, hillarys winning
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>>683059280
M8, green party is in canada. I believe this graph is canadian you dumb cunt
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>>683060839
There is most certainly a very famous case about the US Green Party. Just look a few posts up.
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>>683060762
Im a dem man
disclaimer: i dont really like hillary
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>>683060345
Implying i want dem or rep

They are literally the same shit. They have you arguing over non issues(who can goto the bathroom at whos business when,who can marry who, how to raise your children) while the machine still chugs. You keep handing over more freedom, more labor, and you get screwed over and over again.
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>>683060839
Keep showing your ignorance there, anon. Perhaps multiple countries have political parties named Green.
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>>683061098

I got that. It's the same thing though. Republicans claim the LP is "stealing" their votes. The Democrats whine about the Greens "stealing" their votes.

I'm sure the Greens had some issue with Gore. Besides, Clinton/Gore supported Kyoto, but I don't remember Gore going hard core into that global warming stuff until after the election. I could be wrong, I just don't remember it until later.
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classical anarchists are welcome, right?
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>>683051401
Look up the definition of oligarchy. Ignorance is no excuse, kid.
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>>683063766
>anarchists
>implying anarchism isnt just an honor system
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>>683052247
No, states LITERALLY don't have rights. Read a book.
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Only ex-repubs will vote for him. and many many will.
Donald trump split the GOP and those people will vote for the thrid party. Meanwhile Hillary is going to pick up the Berners by choosing Sanders as her running mate.

Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the United states.. even if the majority of people don't vote for her.
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>>683064224
hmmmm i could dig hillary with sanders if i had to
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>>683064389
It's already being speculated, and Sanders said he would seriously consider it.
Hillary would be retarded not to. Most of her strategy is appeasist based, she will bend her politics if it means getting bernie supporters on board.. I mean, the VP runs the Senate.. that's a lot of fucking power.
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>>683064027
in a sense.
whats wrong with that?

yes i know its not particularly practical, but neither are a lot of other systems
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>>683064653
humans are shittier than you probably seem to think
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>>683064738
trust me, im aware how shitty people are. im in no way naive or delusional.
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>>683064653
because people choose resources over honor.. even if they already own more resources than they could ever need.

Libertarian-ism will turn into a mafia state. Look at all the countries that have tried it.
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>>683065112
>Look at all the countries that have tried it.

Other than the early US (excluding a few issues like slavery), what countries are we talking about?
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>>683040187
Only americans care about this shit, it doesnt affect anyone else in the world , why not discuss it on an american forum for american politics
fucking jewish cuckolded fucks
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>>683065112
explain how in the long run a mafia state is different than a police state.
the few are always going to step on the majority, regardless of the system. just sightly different methods

im also not aware of any countries or even societies which have actually tried it. examples please
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>>683065354

On November 9th, every newspaper in every country will have the same story on its front page.
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>>683047599
god damned cucks trying to ruin our country
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>>683065354
4chan IS an american website originally made for americans by an american
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>>683065284
Sicily became somewhat anarchistic after they succeeded from italy.. then the mob took over.
After perostroyka, russian private enterprises started without restraint since they didn't have 'laws' governing communist companies since they were run by the law.. Extreme wealth disparity, mafia and crime shot up, quality of life plummeted.
Somalia.. tribes started pushing the government out until no government really existed anymore (more anarchism)
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>>683065524
A police state will not kill you for not paying them exuberant rates. A police state swears to a document, not a person.. meaning there are things they cannot do without no longer being police. A pollice state is voted into office and can be voted out. A police state doesn't use violence as coercion.
and guess what WE DON'T EVEN LIVE IN A POLICE STATE!
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>>683065940
so a police state isnt actually a police state?
i also never claimed or even implied we live a police state. but that could be argued if you want to go that route
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>>683066345
We cannot because we have a constitution.
it would require the constitution to be completely irradiated.. which cannot happen anymore than the next president saying "yeah.. ok america is over you guys, go back to europe and africa now"

Our system has a push and pull. Our constitution prevents elected people to gain more power like the Nazi's did in germany. It wouldn't happen without a violent revolution against our military, because even though politics go on, our military stands as a silent guardian.. sworn to the constitution and constitution only. They will take over the whitehouse and restore power back to the voters in the case of a rouge leader. We set that system up in Egypt and that's what they did with their dictator in the arab spring.
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>>683066692
>irradiated
eradicated.. what is with the spellcheck?
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>>683066692
youre giving people too much credit
a third of the population thinks parts of the constitution are obsolete. another third believe different parts of it are obsolete. the other third are viewed at loons by most of the first two thirds
trusting our military to not just follow orders is a bit naive.

we have generally become lazy and complacent. willing to give up much for perceived safety and artificial convenience and it only seems to be getting worse each year
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>>683065940
>A pollice state is voted into office and can be voted out.

That's not included in any definition of police state.

>A police state doesn't use violence as coercion.

Yes, they do. In addition to the threat of violence, they also use the threat of imprisonment or confiscation of property.
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>>683067611
>a third of the population thinks parts of the constitution are obsolete. another third believe different parts of it are obsolete

maybe so, but not the parts that matter here.

>we have generally become lazy and complacent
because everything is ok right now.. if shit starts going wrong everyone will stand up.

>trusting our military to not just follow orders is a bit naive.
I do trust the commanders not to just follow orders.. especially when what they spent their whole life building and fighting for is being torn down and they are the only ones who can stop it.

>>683067640
In a police state that the US could ever be in, yes, none of those things are possible.
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>>683065739
>why not discuss it on an american forum for american politics

missed that bit did you ? fucking faggot
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>>683067918

Have you followed the Civil Asset Forfeiture controversy at all?
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>>683065562
>On November 9th,
it is fucking MAY now you dumb cunt.

Do you realize how fucking hilarious it is seeing a whole fucking nation, which purports to be the best in the world, getting worked up months , if not years in advance of something that has already been decided by a higher power.

you guys are so fucking dumb it is actually sad.

wake up retards , your "votes" mean nothing . Unless you remove the "secrecy" part then those in control can tell you fucking anything about who won what and where

wake the fuck up
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>>683068116
yes. it's pretty fucked up. Local departments do some crooked shit for money. Luckily, it is usually brought up and contested.. unlike in a mob state where you would just be shot.
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>>683067918
>not the parts that matter
are you fucking stupid?
to not see that every single part is just as important as the next is dangerous thinking
>"well, thats important to you isnt important to me so fuck it and fuck you"

or they will give it all up for security. not to be pessimistic, but i would wager on people bowing to the great leader(s) if shit goes wrong
>the great depression and the federal reserve / new deal / etc.

and who puts the military brass in their position? they arent elected by the people, you know.

>>683068108
why dont you just fuck off to a different thread like a man instead of whining like a little bitch about it
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>>683068554
>why dont you just fuck off to a different thread like a man instead of whining like a little bitch about it
why not choke on a fucking huge bag of jewish dicks you fucking zionist cunt
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>>683068488

I disagree with your assertion that a police state would necessarily just shoot someone for contesting them. They don't have to shoot the person if they know in advance that the courts will side with them, because the laws have all been written in their favor. And until very recently, that is what has happened. Local police departments had no check on them because the courts would always rule in their favor. No shooting necessary.

However, if there is someone making political waves that could disrupt the system, it is not unheard of for them to be executed.
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