Speaking from personal experience here; you'll probably have trouble sleeping for the first week or so, along with some dry mouth. Might get some headaches too, but it goes away once your body gets used to it.
>>683019982 I take the non-brand-name version of Zoloft, Sertaline Hydrochloride.
This is the first drug to do anything useful for me. I suffer from severe anxiety and depression. This drug takes MOST of the anxiety away, but unfortunately enhances my nail biting habit. As for depression, it REALLY takes the edge off, allows me to experience happiness from time to time. It doesn't make me "happy" but it's the closest I've ever been.
Side-affects for me include lowered sex drive, and if you take it without food it will make your stomach hurt, make you feel like you want to vomit.
Been on it for about 3 years OP. Keeps me calm and steady, but it depends on your dosage and how your body reacts. If you don't feel better by the end of 4 weeks, tell your doctor and try something else. No anti depressant is one-size-fit-all.
>>683020357 You can still take psycadelics just be very careful. And it's pointless to take mdma because it won't give you any euphoria, just puts you at risk for seritonin syndrome..
As gay as it sounds, you need to commit to therapy when taking these pills. If you don't they'll just make you feel good for 4-5 months then stop working and you'll be in the same exact place you were before but now dependent on a prescription drug
>>683021100 >never had chronic diagnosed depression There is ZERO medical evidence that shows ANY sort of meditation,having any relevance(you're welcome to show me a peer reviewed journal that proves otherwise
>>683019982 you dont need them. trust me they will fuck you up even more when you think you shouldnt take them anymore and they will make you super sensitive to caffeine and stuff so when u drink energy drinks or caffiene you will have a freak out!
>>683019982 OP let me ask you this. Currently I am facing depression myself. Went to see my normal doctor, and he have fluoxetine (Prozac). It work to control my panic attacks for a while.. Also a referral to see the psychiatrist. Dont going to lie my depression is getting worse. I ran out of prozac. IS just getting worse. Not only that I also been having extreme anxiety. I cannot think about this girl that rejected me and the need of saying sorry for creeping he out . I wan to go see the psychiatrist but I am scare they are going to fuck up my permanent record. Does anxiaty ever goes away? Anybody? Please Is getting worse.
>>683022220 There is no "medical diagnosis" for depression or anxiety. It's a fucking label that a therapist will give you based on the signed YOU tell him. If you show yourself to be helpless enough, they will give you this fake "diagnosis". It's basically legitimizing the drug companies for selling their shit to you and get you to be a lifelong customer.
>>683019982 Take them and flush them down the fucking toilet.
First you will be visiting your drug dealer, aka doctor, every month or so, being completely fucknig sick for the first few weeks while ramping up.
Nothing changes after you have your magical pills, you still have the same issues as before, just now need to take a pill every day so you won't throw up -- yeah if you miss a pill you'll probably get sick.
Oh and when you finally realize you are slowly poisoning yourself and you want to get off the drugs, yeah that's another six months of reductions, brain zaps, and all other sorts of fun mindfucks.
I think continued CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) has had great results for a lot of people. Personally I will just carry my melancholy with me for life and enjoy what I can... better than these drugs IMO (from what I've read).
>>683022722 We're not talking about normal vs abnormal BEHAVIOR, we're talking about medical illnesses and diseases that can be diagnosed with a scientific way. The term "type 1" and "bipolar" are just fancy bullshit made up to make it sound like a real disease. But it's not. It's all psychological, just a bundle of emotions or feelings that is based on your current life situation and your surroundings and friends.
Bipolar I with psychotic features here. It's not "depression" or "anxiety", those are just symptoms. Everybody experiences depression and anxiety at times. Severe Bipolar is much more than "OMG I'M SAD!".
>>683019982 I take wellbutrin 300mg xls and 200mgs of zoloft. No boner issues, or anxiety issues. Keeps me leveled. That combo is good the two by themselves are definetly not as good as a pair. Although if I had to chose to be on one itd be wellbutrin.
>>683023559 Mood abnormalities are emotional problems. It dates back, not to 1940's but to beginning of human history and evolution. They just made it into a fancy "disease" to sell you drugs these days instead of being responsible and taking care of you with human values like compassion and empathy.
>>683019982 Don't do it man, it MIGHT make you feel better for a certain amount of time. But most likely it will make you worse, and then you have to come off of it. I took anti depressants for 9 years and I took lexapro for 4 straight. I'm currently going through protracted withdrawal, I took my last pill in late November of 2015 and I'm still having symptoms.
I kind of feel like an asshole saying that, but honestly anti depressants didn't help me at all. Infact i ended up in rehab because when I was on lexapro I drank alcoholically, the medication literally made me an alcoholic. I can a beer and be ok now.
Of course now I'm not drinking that much because it kicks up my symptoms. Just think about it man
>>683023919 You do know people were aware that colds existed without knowing what viruses were, right? I'm just flicking through /b/, but if you are referencing socrates as backing your position you are stretching a bit
>>683024215 I don't think cold and flue is a good analogue for this argument. Cold is an actual viral disease caused by an outside agent, in this case, a virus. But something like depression isn't a disease. It's just a feeling, though for some people, it might last a very long time depending on the quality of their human relationships.
>>683024331 Funny, that's exactly how the pills made me behave. Within the first 4 months I purchased a new car (55k) and chewed through 15k in savings all because I just didn't give a fuck anymore. It's been almost 4 years since then and it all seems like it was a dream.. except I still have that goddamn car payment.
>>683021598 im on effexor too. 300mg daily. the first day i took only 25 mg and i felt weird. but in a good way. i didnt feel like talking and i was relaxed. just carefree. nwo i dont even know if it works or not. i only felt it the first day.
Don't worry, I decided to get married to a Chinese girl, bought her a $36,000 car and a $342,000 house for us which I left for her in the prenup, and 7 months later was divorced and in a hospital lmao. I like that I can laugh about it though now.
>>683024953 Umm, I'm not sure what drugs you're referring to. But feelings are experiences. They are not physiological and/or biochemical.
The pharmaceutical industry wants you to believe you feel a certain way because of certain neurotransmitter which is utter bullshit. Human brain is more complex than the entire universe and it evolved to the incredible thing it is in millions of years. You're might buy this garbage from drug companies that your mood is caused by a certain chemical. But I won't.
>>683025361 Weird, I'm on 150mg. The first few weeks were fucking great. I never had that much energy and lust for life. Every I wanted to do something new and meet new people. But lo and behold not 2 months in and I don't really notice it anymore.. Drugs have a way of plateauing out and becoming ineffective after awhile. Actually therapy and working through your problems is the only real solution to this shit as gay as it sounds.
>>683025025 long story short it gives me whiskey dick.... turns me into an emotional zombie.. mellows me the fuck out... prior to Effexor I wasn't coping with stress anxiety properly, was hitting the bottle hard.. but now its like I know im pissed or sad, I just don't FEEL it anymore.. therefore I don't get so f#@$%# stressed I get pushed to drinking my ass off
>>683024760 It is not just a feeling though, is it? The body, specifically the brain, is fucked up when you're depressed right? the neurotransmitters are out of balance? Would you say hyperthyroidism is not a disease because you cannot identify an external cause for it? The human body is not infallible, it has certainly been shown to fail and produce harmful states of unbalance. Is it a disease? I'm not going to google the definition, but I think you're kidding yourself if you handwave the biomolecular components of it in favour of human relationships which may or may not even be involved
>>683026262 It's okay, your doctor, who gets free shit from the manufacturers, says it's a great pill and will cure you... Plus you get to see him 3 - 4 times a year for a checkup, how convenient!! Maybe even some lab work too!
The fact that the manufacturers lobby our congress to make sure these pills stay on the market is also something we should just ignore.
>>683026052 There is nothing wrong with the brain of people with emotional problems. The only "neurotransmitter imbalances" in your brain are the ones CAUSED by the drugs you've taken, if you've taken any. These drugs severely disrupt the normal function of neurotransmitters.
I seriously think you should watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARZ2Wv2BoFs
>>683027524 Yeah dude the whole worlds out to get you maaaaannn. Hormones in the milk, fluoride in the water controlling our mind. Watch out the mans probably coming to get you right now because you're so deep in the rabbit hole maaaan
Doctor just put me on this shit, kinda sketched out by it. I was just trying to get adderall and he said I don't have add but I have dysthymia. I'm about to just say the shit makes my dick not work and I want a stimulant
Should be careful though as antidepressants can cause mania, and sounds like you have an old timer doc. At least ask about Abilify or similar as a replacement. It doesn't have the fatigue of Seroquel and helps stabilize your dopamine so you should never need an antidepressant. Then they can always add something for anxiety. For me it was neurontin oddly enough. Different for everyone though. I've been off all meds for a year now, so maybe shouldn't be giving advice haha.
>>683027733 he kind of seems like he's bullshitting though, doesn't he? He's taking his "there can't be anything wrong with yooouur brain unless you USE drugs!" as an a priori and then stacking up examples of how the brain is subject to change
The brain is not more complicated than the rest of the universe, this guy knows it isn't and is saying it is. He's a liar, my guess is he sells a book, but I could be wrong. Not depressed or on drugs. --- oh and look at that he is selling books. Ok, well, I don't know or care about this really, but do consider that the other side of the fence is shilling their voodoo too
when i took it i felt pretty ok, i only got sad or upset about reasonable shit, not for no reason. first day I took it, I had a speech prepared for a class and the professor commented that I was way too laid back with the crowd/class haha. but id suggest not using any other drugs with it. in my experience that just made it stop working.
>>683029592 are you serious? your the second guy that told me that/ Why? What happens after you stold taking prozac?I mean I ran out of prozac. My doctor didnt sign for a refill. I am scare they going to fuck up my permanent record with depression and severe anxiety. I wont be able to have a normal job
>>683029658 More complicated than the rest of universe or not, it is above and beyond anything we can comprehend in this day and age.
I find it more of voodoo when some drug-company funded research comes out with the idea that our brain are fundamentally flawed and that one or two specific chemicals are responsible for our emotional sufferings.
I never did. I went into a very expensive treatment program after being hospitalized and they had a top notch doc who gave me the Abilify and neurontin and he was on point (worked for me). I was surprised I didn't get Lithium after researching it. Lithium is something that has been around forever though in Bipolar cases and can't say I have ever heard anything bad about it except minor symptoms. It's different for everyone though, I think I just got really lucky or maybe my doc knew his shit with Bipolar Disorder.
>>683019982 >Zoloft Shit's weak. I was made eat 2 250mg pills and a half 2 times a day and it didn't do shit aside from looking high as fuck. After my wallet starting to drain because of the cost I said fuck it and stop taking them and actually felt better off of those shits.
>>683030559 You have a valid point but when brains don't produce enough of other chemicals they get diagnosed as real medical issues. It's just people don't take this seriously because they think the people are just sad and can't handle it because they themselves can't comprehend depression and how it affects the human brain.
>>683030702 Cause you sound mentally handicapped. Sorry if it's just that English isn't your first language. But just go to the hospital and explain your situation and they'll help ease the withdrawals that shitty doc sent you into
>>683030175 You can't be turned down for a job or school based on physical or mental illness unless it renders you incapable of doing said job. Sometimes, your employers even get paid to hire people with mental/physical handicaps and they want to keep you more because of it. "Permanent record" does not exist. Prozac is dangerous to come off of for a number of reasons, short answer is that it's just the nature of the drug. In my opnion, it's not something that should be tried until you've exhausted other options like a healthy sleep schedule, proper diet and exercise regimen, and removing negative influences from your life. Have you done all of those things? Then stop complaining about depression and do something about it. Drink more water. Eat good foods that don't come out of a box. Then you can do whatever you want
I'm actually dying, slowly going blind, and some people can't figure out how to live normally and it just pisses me off
>>683030559 you can say whatever you want to justify it as he does, but this phony is trying to sell you a product -- ie books and therapy. Is it more of voodoo? Maybe it is maybe it isn't, but it's not a pissing contest. I'm merely warning you that you are putting a lot of stock in people who you know are lying to you and want your money
The guy did not make a point that the brain chemistry cannot be out of balance, in fact he made a point that it can. He simply does not accept that it can exist without external cause, which... maybe he has a reason to doubt, but he made no point to relay that to his customers
>>683030885 I think we're looking at it the wrong way. The brain doesn't control how we feel, how we feel controls how our brain functions.
When YOU decide to do something, to feel something, to achieve anything in life, your brain does all the complicated neurotransmitter and millions of different processes in the background that makes it happen.
You are in charge of your brain, not the other way around.
>>683032201 It's not your fault, the pharmaceutical companies spend billions of dollars marketing to doctors so that people will see taking a pill as the easy way out of their depression instead of actually making healthy life choices which can solve/help 99.9% of depression. You don't need to get sucked into that crap though, it's not going to help you in the long run.
>>683032562 But I didn't is the thing, I had loads of friends and my parents are the most supportive people I could have asked for. Once I went through puberty it's like my mind just started working differently. It's like I was trapped inside of a dark room even though my life was sunshine and puppies
Nope, not at all. I know many Bipolar people like myself and friends who are even Schizophrenic and we all function well in society and you'd never know. He's better off working his ass off to fight whatever he's dealing with and continually being aware of himself every minute. In the end, you are truly in control of your mind if you are aware of it. IMO.
>>683031265 You have convinced me never to get on prescription drugs to deal with my shit. Have been dealing with depression hard for a fucking while but im working on it. Ive always figured that if I couldnt do it maybe drugs would be my last chance/last resort but thanks anon, im never going to go there, sounds like it will make me more fucked up than before.
>>683033298 Lol that wasn't the argument.. I wasn't saying you could help me I was proving the point that depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in your brain that usually manifests itself during puberty and not a result of taking ssri's, snri's or any other prescribed or non prescribed drug
And also your mentioning of eating right and being on a good schedule is HUGE. That was a very important note everyone should see. Sleep, diet and exercise is seriously an incredible thing for any mental illness.
>>683033900 I've been on an ssri and now I'm on the SNRI Effexor (venlafaxine) for about a year now. The drugs seem to help for a while at the beginning, but the effects plateau out and eventually you feel the same as before you started taking them
Forgot to answer the age question: I started feeling depressed around the age of 12-13 when I went through puberty. I got on an ssri when receiving therapy at 17 and then got in Effexor at age 21 when the original ssri wasn't doing anything to help my depression/ anxiety anymore. I am current 22 and have been taking Effexor for a little more than a year but honestly it feels like I did before, but there were a few magical months where I did feel great from the therapy/Effexor
>>683033487 Keep trying, you have to remember that most of life is spent trying to ease the pains of living. It's supposed to be painful. Not everyone is strong enough for it, but when you start to accept that you're one of those who isn't strong enough it's hard to come back from. Possible, just difficult. Glad that my thoughts could have a positive impact on someone though, I hope you start to do better for yourself
>>683033826 I was just referencing the video posted at >>683027733, in which he claims he experienced depression/fatigue/aches from caffeine withdrawal and therefore the only emotions can be the real reason you feel bad
It was tongue in cheek, and I just inserted myself into conversation because it's anonymous
>>683034066 Thanks. I wish there was more emphasis on those points in this thread. Some people actually lose their minds just from not sleeping at the right times. And eating right can make your life so much different... Your body has the ability to fix itself if you give it the right tools for the job. And seriously, no matter your weight, go out and walk for at least 20 minutes a day. Not only is it good for your health, but when you zone out walking your brain goes into theta state which is where you're most creative, and can think your way out of whatever rut you're in.
Life is short and pointless. We are at birth catapulted toward an oblivion more complete and total than we can possibly bring ourselves to imagine. Life consists of suffering and trying to alleviate that suffering through work, labor, and strife. Happiness is a moment before you need more happiness, it doesn't last. But sadness lasts. Pain is the rule, pleasure is simply the absence of pain, and then it turns to boredom.
You're depressed because life is shit and you understand it more acutely than normies.
>>683034778 Try doing other things first. Your brain is going to need time to rebalance after being on zoloft. It may take weeks. Be patient. Just remember that it's not permanent, and to not take your bad thoughts as seriously as you usually would. Go on walks, try not to be alone as much as possible. Social interaction is good for your mind. Talk to a friend, about anything not just this, and go to sleep. Keep yourself distracted as much as possible till you feel yourself coming back down. Get on some netflix and watch some funny shit. Just be as chill as you can be for these next few weeks, and work on eating/sleeping/exercising right and i swear on my life that you'll feel a lot better
I've been on Zoloft for years. My dick works fine. No headaches. Only thing is you may feel super anxious the next day or two if you drink too much. Other than that I've got no complaints really, it works well for me.
>>683036923 As much as I think self help books are bullshit shilled out for profit, this book actually provides invaluable insight into living a meaningful life not dominated by anxieties and insecurities about the past and future
>>683034778 Panic Disorder here. Yes. See a psychiatrist. Be proactive in seeking help. I'm guessing your in your mid 20s. It gets better around age 30. The best way to approach this is to try to string together a couple anxiety free days at a time. If you're not ready for that strive for a couple hours at a time. Im hoping you've already hit bottom. If not you really won't give it everything you have and won't succeed. As for drugs, I take zoloft, lamictal, and klonopin but I've tried ask types of combinations. If I had it all to do over again I would not take the ssri and used benzos to string together a few anxiety few days/weeks and then start removing the drugs. Anxiety for me was a learned habit I had to break like an addiction.
>>683037070 Thank you dude. But it has been a month after I took prozac. The next month was fine, but it keep coming back. I was getting help from my best friend, and suddenly everything got worse, I told him I wish I never meet him, and we went on to keep fighting. He got tired of me. From there I been feeling helpless my friend was actually helping me, but I push him to far. This lead me to have severe anxiety every time I felt the need to talk to him. I dont talk to him anymore. He still cares about me, but I cant talk to him anymore without the need of fighting
>>683037837 ''Antidepressants vs. Placebo For less severely depressed patients, the antidepressants were found to work no better than placebos, leading the researchers to conclude that most patients who take antidepressants probably shouldn't be on them.''
>>683038063 Depression and anxiety can ruin relationships. That's really sad and i'm sorry to hear about it, but if this problem is as bad as you're making it sound then you need to focus on yourself for a while anyways. Then you can be a better friend to people when you've got your head on straight. Just work out a little bit - take more walks, make some makeshift weights, it's free. Eat better if possible, it's more expensive to eat healthy but drugs aren't cheap either, and you blow money on stuff you don't need all the time so blow some on stuff you do need. Some places you can find free therapy, churches sometimes offer that too but then they might try to shove religion down your throat. But yeah, relax about your friend, as time passes these huge things that happen aren't such a big deal anymore
>>683039333 Dude I would give you a fucking hug if I ever meet you in real life. I can handle the depression Because I love my mother, father, and brother. And it would be really selfish of killing myself. The anxiety has been slowly eating me like a bacteria. It sucks so much. I cant stop thinking about the stupidest things dude. They wont let me be free. All this thoughts are trapping me and I cant find the exit. thank you dude seriously thank you
>>683039532 Damn, that sucks. I thought you were just trying to freak people out in this thread.. Although I doubt anyone has anything to worry about regarding the development of Tourette's syndrome from the use of SSRIs/SNRIs
>>683040459 It does suck. But its not severe at all and its just physical. My main tick is with my left shoulder flexing so I just shrug randomly. The tremors are easy to deal with just embarrassing at times. Im actually going in for another MRI on sunday so this thread is quite suiting :-D
>>683040271 I just related to you, we should always be trying to do that with people. I'm really glad you don't have any intention of killing yourself, and i hope you can come up with a good plan on how you're gonna fight what's going on with you. Just take out a piece of paper and write charts of what you're gonna do. Even if you don't do it all, having a plan feels awesome. It's about having some hope of something better, you know?
Draw out a decent beginners exercise regimen, just light stuff like walking/jogging and maybe a little lifting. Don't let your emotions make you hurt yourself, it's easy to get carried away when you get too emotional.
Come up with a better diet, low in processed sugars and meat and high in fruits/vegetables. There's all sorts of shit in nature that works to keep our brains healthy. You don't have to research it all like I do, just eat green stuff with meals and snack on fruit. Also drink lots of water, good water not tap
Then sleeping at a decent hour is probably the most important thing. It takes a while to get used to, but turning off phone/tv screens is the best thing you can do even though it's hard when those are the things that keep you distracted from your emotions best.
I'm really happy that i'm able to share some of what helped me out of my living hell, you're gonna be okay man. Think of all the things you can't do, and think about if you couldn't. Like I said, i don't have much time left. Maybe a year. You can still do so much if you just get through this
if you have ocd type of anxiety obsessed with health/social situations/ect.. it will help a lot. You will feel a little woozy the first few days up to a week but you will start to notice that you feel better by week 2 maybe before. My only con would be once your on the shit good luck getting off. I tried getting off before made it 4 months and i was way to fucked up to function and anxiety was worse then ever. But if you dont mind being on the shit and this is a last resort sort of thing to feel better zoloft can help a lot. "been on the shit for 12 years"
>>683042716 I had it for that a while ago but it's made my anger fucking sky rocket. I hate this fucking pill. I've been put on a different version (Xanax) and its basically the same fucking thing. I hope my fucking doctor gets shot in the fucking head for being such an idiot.
o and i forgot to add that for whatever reason it takes longer for me to bust a nut. But im honestly fine with it i last a lot longer now and when i do bust the orgasm is a lot better. Just another pro to being on these drugs :)
>>683042891 No problem at all, and i'll be alright. I mean not physically, but i'm cool with finding out what's next. I've always wondered about the things no one has an answer to, and soon i'll be able to find out for myself. I guess i'll really be SOL if there's a god, because I don't do all of that religion nonsense. But hey, gotta figure it out some time. My life has been really painful but really fun and awesome at the same time, I mean I actually LIVED while I could. It was great but the one thing I feel shitty about is leaving my girl all alone when I go. It blows. But i'm trying to set it up to where she will be taken care of, that's what occupies my time now. I really can't complain though, i've had a good run. Also, /b/ doesn't save anybody you must be new here kek
>>683043716 No, but I'm saying they're trying to treat the same shit and I feel the same fucking way and its not doing literally anything different to me than zoloft. I fucking hate both of them. I can't get any fucking sleep, and when I do, its usually awful and for short amounts of time. I can only sleep usually for 4 to 5 hours, and it's a good night if I can get more than 6 or 7. They might be different pills in themselves, but they do the exact same thing to me.
If you are suicidal before you start on an antidepressant, there is the risk that the antidepressant will fuel and give energy to those thoughts. Hence the "black box warnings" that the drug companies issued, for immunity from lawsuits.
>>683023534 Same here, this so much. More like "omg, I feel so miserable that dying by eating the medicine cabinet is preferable to life" or "I FEEL FUCKING AMAZING AND WEAVING THROUGH TRAFFIC AT 120 MPH IS THE GREATEST IDEA EVER" or "there are voices from nowhere saying random shit and also for sure someone broke in to my house and put hidden cameras and microphones all over it". Oh and sometime it is somehow a fucking unholy combination of all three.
Not going to bother to read this entire thread so sorry if this has already been said. I've been on Paxil for 11 years. The cons are that everything seems dull. If you have depression like me then that is actually a plus compared to the norm. Jerking off becomes a chore but pays off with the pros. The Pros, or at least the biggest pro is that you can Fuck like a champ forever and cum when you want. Big plus with the ladies.
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