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>>682986558
Doesn't it mean they don't believe in God.

They have faith that there is no God.
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It's more then "I don't believe in God" rather it is distinctly "I believe there is no God." It's very easy to define.
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>>682986558
Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods. Older dictionaries define atheism as "a belief that there is no God."Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods. Older dictionaries define atheism as "a belief that there is no God."
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>>682987054
Than*
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Get derailed by dat boi
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We simply dont believe in a god. It's not that we dont believe there is a god, we're just not sure if one exists, or just dont care enough to decide.
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>>682987113
Oh shit waddup
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>>682987113
Oh shit waddup
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>>682986558
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>>682987147
Nah bro that's agnostic
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>>682987113
Oh shit, whaddup?
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because they weren't brainwashed since their childhood in a specific cult's belief system
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Religion is a joke, it's a exuse for stuff they don't understand because they never had science and proof besides some tards writting a "Folk Tale" bible.
Niggers
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>>682987296
No, that's agnostic atheist. Agnostic as a term only refers to if you know something or not.
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It is not the assertion of any of our own beliefs, it is simply the rejection of your position.
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>>682987514
*tips fedora*
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>>682986558
>avatarfagging is banned
>katawa shoujo threads are banned
>brony threads are banned
>hunger game threads are sometimes banned
>camwhores are banned
>this shit isn't banned
???
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>>682987113
oh shit waddup
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>>682987054
>Believe

It's a religion.
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>>682986558
It's a word that describes someone who isn't theistic. Just like asexual. It's not hard.
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Being an atheist is a faith the same way not collecting stamps is a hobby
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Atheists are just as stupid and ignorant as religious people. They shove there belief system down other peoples throats the same way.
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>>682986558
why cant shitposters stop shitposting?
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>>682989692
Can't stop the bum rush
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as if religious ppl could define religion
fuck off
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>>682987054
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>>682987087
Then how do you call people who simply don't believe in anything?
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>>682989944
It's a belief. Just like atheism. Atheism =Religion .
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>>682990546

Nihilists
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>>682990546
Apatheism (/ˌæpəˈθiːɪzəm/ a portmanteau of apathy and theism/atheism), also known as pragmatic atheism or practical atheism, is acting with apathy, disregard, or lack of interest towards belief or disbelief in a deity or deities.
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>>682990742
fucking nihilists, man.
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>>682990742
No. Nihilists believe that gods do not exist and that life is meaningless.
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>>682986558
This b8 has gotten so weak at this point it's literally one word. OP I admire your ability to keep posting this b8 day after day. You're one determined faggot
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Atheism is the lack of faith or lack of religion.

Boom.
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>>682990546
agnostics
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>>682991589
this is the best one
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>>682986558
if christians are so great can they define atheism??
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>>682991868
then there's the fedora atheists who push atheism on others like its a religion.
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>>682986558
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=atheism
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>>682990841
How it is different form implicit negative or even explicit negative atheism?
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>>682986558
not even bait. this is so great... what's your opinion /b/?
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>>682992641
It's just not giving a shit, I don't know what you're asking me.
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>>682990743
>>682990582
No i'm serious.
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>>682986558
agnostic master race
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>>682987113
Oh shut waddup!!!
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>>682989875
aye lmao
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religion is a joke
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>>682992751
Negative or "weak" atheism is also basically not giving a shit.
Only positive or "strong" atheism is an actual believe that no gods exits.
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atheism is acknowledging the misery of the world but not being stupid enough to believe in fairy tales that attempt to alleviate the pain
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>>682992127
Agnostics do not shut out the possiblity that a God exists. Agnostics simply admit that it's impossible to know.
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>>682993373
no
it's just
not following a religion
this thread is an autism gold mine
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>>682993525
you can be an agnostic atheist
you can be an agnostic theist
it's a position of knowledge not belief
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>>682993373
No it's being stupid enough to believe something without proof you have no proof ether way. Atheists are just a bunch of edge masters.Who would probably cry out for Jesus Christ if something actually threatened there life.
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>>682990546
Smart people.
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>>682993862
kek
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>>682986558

Because of greedy capitalists.
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>>682993629
On the contrary. It's true that you can be an agnostic theist/atheist, but it's the agnosticism in it that defines their admittance of the fact that it's impossible to know, thus it's a position of belief over "knowledge", which is what those blindly religious fanatics claim to have.
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>>682994341
I don't know what this meme is, but I love it
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>>682994567
His name is Travis. He has two knives.
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>>682986558
Without theism. You fucking lame duck cum blasted ass sore.
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>>682994577
is that dylan klebold oh my god
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The burden of proof lies on the person making the claim.
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>>682986558
Ah. Back to the classics, eh?

>Sage your replies.
>Hide the thread.
>Don't feed the troll.
>FOUR MORE YEARS
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>>682995118
Therefore, you'd be much better off as a theist or an agnostic, as atheism will always be unprovable.
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>>682995070
Rool
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>>682995456
god will always be unprovable
theists hold what's called the burden of proof
atheism is more rational
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Atheism is scientific, but fairy tales based off of primitive teachings about stories with lack of proof of being true. Funny religious peeps.
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>>682995456
if i said a dildo was floating light years away from earth in space it's not up to you to prove that there's not a dildo it's up to me to prove that it exists
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>>682987113
oh shit waddup
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Unless you have proof either way (atheism also has the burden that it would require proof to be a rational belief system), then agnosticism is the most rational. Atheism can never be proven.
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>>682996107
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>>682996011
atheism isn't a belief system, religious people are the ones making outrageous claims without evidence. atheists are simply people who don't believe the claims being made.
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Agnosticism is the only rational choice.

Atheism and theism are both on the same spectrum of closemindedness. Anyone jumping to either conclusion is taking part in either wishful (theism) or pretentious (atheism) thinking.
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>>682996335
you can be an agnostic theist
you can be an agnostic atheist
agnosticism is a position of knowledge not belief

atheism isn't "THERE IS NO GOD"
atheism is "I don't believe in a god"
big difference hun
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>>682996541
It's still an emotionally charged decision. If one didn't have personally any proof either way, then objectively, agnosticism is the most rational belief.
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listen OP, i used to love the movie gremlins. its still ok but not the best movie I've ever seen. anyway. i met this girl who also loves the movie gremlins. she said that it reminds her of her childhood. and for some reason the mogwai really turn her on. i ask how thats possible. the mogwai have absolutely no sexual features. no rounded ass, no raised breasts, no genetalia of any type. could it possibly be the fact that they transform into those slimy green gremlins? what is it? she refused tell me. i spent many nights afterwards watching gremlins and hoping maybe to get turned on a little bit. one night i got half a chub but I've since realized that was most likely just the air conditioner. eventually i couldnt take the mystery anymore. i MUST know what turns her on about the movie gremlins, if for no other reason than i want to be able to fuck a mogwai in the comfort of my own home. why should she be able to get so turned on by gremlins but I'm not even allowed to experience it? i corner her. she backs up. scared. my slow approach has her shaking and asking, "logan, whats gotten into u?" i tell her this is the end of the line. she must tell me why gremlins makes her pussy drip. here and now is the time or she will die by my average sized cock. I can tell that she's finally about to tell me, she's finally about to break. she takes a deep breath and dramatic music begins to play from the lunch room loud speakers across from mrs. shabotski's 5th grade class ( this was the song: http://youtu.be/dPiEVyd3-4k [Open] ) above the dulcid tones she tells me the thing i swore never to repeat. but i will tell it to you hear bros. i will tell it to you from my death bed. i will tell you the sexiest thing I've ever heard. that girl lets the real life gizmo live in her pussy. listen OP, i used to love the movie gremlins. its still ok but not the best movie I've ever seen. anyway. i met this girl who also loves the movie gremlins. she said that it reminds gets wild after midnight
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>>682996856
you're retarded
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>>682996541
Read >>682994029

Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deities. <- it's basically the same thing as saying "there is no god", because you shut that possibility out. It's just as closeminded and even more pretentious than blind faith.
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>>682996944
Atheism doesn't shut out anything, they look at the lack of evidence provided and aren't convinced. If an atheist was presented with solid proof of a god they would believe in one.
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>>682996936
>emotionally driven reply
You're not helping your case
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>>682996944
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sOdjsgZOMA

this may help to understand what exactly agnosticism and atheism are and the misconceptions.
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>>682997160
No, that would be agnosticism. Atheists by definition DO shut out beliefs of a deity.
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>>682997160
Thus like I said, just as closeminded and even more pretentious than blind faith, thinking we have the capacity to prove the being of a God with our primitive technology compared to the mysteries and unknownables of the universe, or should I say being.
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>>682997532
how does the absence of belief = knowledge that it doesn't exist

if you need help, think about what differs between the meaning of "belief" and "knowledge"
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>>682997597
Why should anyone believe in something without proof? you dun goofed my friend
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>>682997755
Looks like a disconnect between gnostic and agnostic atheist, gnostic atheists 'know' there is no god, these people are pants on head retarded.

Agnostic atheists are not autistic and can learn.
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>>682997755
'belief' - An acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof:

'atheism' - Disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

I was getting the definitions to correct you, but it looks like you were right. I still think atheism has a measure of blind faith, coming from both a former Christian and atheist.
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>>682997340
anon decided to ignore the fact that agnosticism isn't a belief even after I explained

>retarded
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>>682997850
You believe there is no God, why should you believe in that? Are the mysteries of the universe that plain to you? Like I said, pretentious. It's fedora-tipping tier pretentious.
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>>682998182
watch this
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>>682998199
nah bud, you're just retarded.
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>>682998199
No, I didn't read your explanation.
Anyway, you're wrong, agnosticism is a belief system. Oh and you proved me right about emotionally charged, however you look at it. Emotion muddies rationality.

>Agnostic - A person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God.
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>>682986943
There's a difference between not believing in something and believing something doesn't exist.
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>>682986558
because strawman argument
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>>682998221
No actually, I believe there is a lot to the universe that we have yet to learn. Even things that aren't currently comprehensible to us. Things that could be described as godlike. But I highly doubt that the religions we see today know what's up. There have been hundreds of religions over human history that claim something different from the next, why should I believe in any of them?
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>>682998478
I am agnostic, don't really need the definition again
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>>682998478
And it's not a position of belief
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>>682998596
Belief in God or being an agnostic theist doesn't mean you have to partake in whatever religions exist/believe in the God-figure they present. It's simply the belief that a God of some sort exists or admittance to the fact that it cannot be known but you choose to believe or in the case of an agnostic atheist the admittance that it cannot be known but you choose not to believe.
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>>682992901
kill yourself
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>>682998926
well it is, look at the definition, I just did.
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>>682999182
I don't see a problem with this actually
Yes I'm an agnostic atheist, I don't claim to know what's out there but I do choose not to believe due to the lack of evidence.
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>>682999335
And I already like you more than I do plain atheists.
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>>682999246
http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Atheist_vs._agnostic

It may seem like a lot but I highly recommend taking a quick look.
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>>682999335
Actually, I have to make a correction to this. I don't see belief as a choice.
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>>683000072
That is until one is presented with evidence that contradicts their own beliefs and denies it.
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>>682999549
I'm pretty sure it's simply a misunderstanding here. Many atheists are actually gnostic atheists without knowing the right word for it. The word is simply used interchangeably most of the time.
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>>682999549
That's interesting, would you think most people who call themselves atheists, are actually referring to the lack of belief in a deity, instead of referring to an actual belief that there exists no deities?
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>>683000245
Definitely! I see these "atheists" everywhere, it's awful.
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>>682987296
At different times I had agnostic, atheist, Christian, Catholic, and non denominational on my dog tags. I thought that agnostic meant that you didn't care what religion you were. I think we need a name for that other that non-denominational.
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>>683000305
Yes, most self identifying atheists I know are agnostic atheists.
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>>682987113
oh shit waddup
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>>682992796
Atheism doesn't follow a "doctrine" like the cult of Christianity does.
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>>682986558
For the same reason there are over 33000 Christian denominations worldwide.
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>>683000857
You're basically an agnostic theist if you believe in God but do not believe that God is equal to the God-figures presented by organized religion.
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>>682986558
What if instead of church we went to a place every sunday that discussed logic and logical fallacies, gave us guidelines to have a more reasonable understanding of moral, immoral, and amoral. They would discuss science and physics and history. Not in like a classroom manner but in more of a guided manner. Like a bible that preached reason and logic.
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>>683001278
Everyone has this option already
Some just choose otherwise
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>>682995070
roll for justice
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>>683001098
Catholic, protestant, seventh day adventist.

Not even close faggot. God only revealed one truth.
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>>682987113
oh shit waddup!!!!!
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>>683001222
I do not oppose that. My family is super religious. Sometimes they talk about people that will go to hell for not having faith or asking forgiveness. If I told them I didn't believe in god they would go insane, start praying for me, then demand that I go to confession.
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>>682986558

i know this is bait but there are people in this thread who genuinely don't get it so i'll settle it once and for all:

atheism is nothing more than the LACK of belief in a god

it is not the active disbelief in a god, and to people saying "that's agnosticism", yes, you are right. both atheists and theists are typically agnostic, agnosticism isn't a "third option" like some idiots tend to believe.

theism/atheism = what you believe

gnosticism/agnosticism = your degree of certainty in your belief

99.9% of atheists don't claim to be anything other than agnostic, but they're still atheists because they think it's more likely that god DOESN'T exist than that he does.
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>>683001854
>99.9% of atheists don't claim to be anything other than agnostic, but they're still atheists because they think it's more likely that god DOESN'T exist than that he does.
I'd say you're wrong in that. Most self-identifying atheists act like gnostic atheists, simply not knowing the right word for it and thus calling themselves atheist.
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>>682996856
Think of it like this, the only proof I need to prove that god exists is that we have bibles. I know there is no god from the Bible or any other scripture because I do not subscribe that kind of immoral doctrine. Believing in a god justifies our discrimination of others to make AMERICA GREAT AGAIN THATS RIGHT BIG WALL FOR THE GAYS AND THE MEXICANS. This is our typical american brainwashed very well. On with your racism and oil loving Jesus. Fuck off faggot try again.
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>>682987113
oh shit waddup
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>>682986558
Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods. Older dictionaries define atheism as "a belief that there is no God."
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>>682986558
Theism = the belief in the existence of deities.
A = nonexistant (asexual = non sexual)
Atheism = not believing in the existence of deities.

Seriously people how fucking hard is this to americunts?
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>>683002092
It's those fucking gnostics that are ruining this country. The gnostics.
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>>682987113
oh shit waddup!!!
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Gnostic theist = believes a god exists and claims to know that this belief is true
>Retard tier

Agnostic theist = believes a god exists, but doesn't claim to know that this belief is true

Gnostic atheist = believes that no god exists and claims to know that this belief is true
>Retard tier

Agnostic atheist = does not believe any god exists, but doesn't claim to know that no god exists

People should just take these to heart and use them to avoid misunderstandings.
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>>683003466
Thank you!
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>>683003097
need a petition for gnostic genocide
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>>683002731
Absolutely true, the people who don't understand this are the ones spewing about how atheists have just as much blind faith as theists.
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>>683003466
r u fucking autistic? kill urself u fucking fag
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