Aside from this fag talking about how youtube has changed because of drama, i want to talk about the actual changing of youtube
Before youtube became a business it was built on people filming shit in their basement and dicking off with WMM and it was probably the best time for it. The way the algorithms are now i find it almost impossible to find any channel that is worth watching. im not a complete hipster. I like a lot of the bigger channels but i miss watching videos like this one guy i used to watch. It was just some dude with long hair and a beard with multiple personality disorder and he would just talk about his day and tell stories about his life. I loved that shit. Ive since lost his channel and i actually doubt he does it anymore or has killed himself by now. I just miss being able to fuck off and find all kinds of weird videos that werent cancer ridden.
youtube feels weird to me now. Does anyone else have any feelings like this or do i just suck at finding content now?
I can relate, OP. Back then in around 2009, the general youtube community didn't seem terrible to me. Today, I won't even look at the comments, not even on a dare. Also, most of the youtubers I knew back then had took a turn to the cancerous.
Also, Google+ is useless.
I agree, the whole thing with "Youtube personalities" is retarded and a nice and easy way of making sure you get a good 50mil followerbase of 12 year olds who are into lel screaming slenderman xdddd , and all you have to do is pull on an act of a downie with borderline and adhd
This shit has clogged up the whole site and infected/become standard for ANY new or aapiring youtuber to also do, literally the only way to get views at all
But hey what do I know? "I dont like da change hurr durr times must move on"
Contd. This whole situation basically clogs up the entire website of videos and all you see is pandering from youtube themselves to change how their site works to only show these kinds of shit
Oh yeah, don't forget the people who color their hair for a bullshit reason and post a video about it to show off.
see the way it works now is it shows you videos from channels you go on more until eventually you start to only see a few pop up. That makes it hard for people who just do it as a hobby but still want their shit to be seen. i have 89 subscriptions on my account and i only see 4 or 5 of them because they are the ones that post a video 2-3 times a week.
Due to this its really fucking impossible to get anywhere without piggybacking on other popular YT fads or letsplayers personalities, etc nowadays unless you probably buy subs and pretend they matter, or force yourself to spam the living shit out of other channels comments and pray that some poor faggot decides to watch your videos even once
YouTube was always a business. Do you mean before it was acquired by Google and monotized to the public?
My account is 10 years old now, and like every other social media site (Facebook, 4chan, YouTube, boing boing - Reddit - digg) that started around that time they've all dropped in quality a bit
We've adapted too much since their releae and molded these into modern times, they're not niche anymore which is what made them special in the first place.
That just happens. It always happened, and it always will happen with any social construct and mass media platform.
The best you can do is find out what new big thing is before it becomes big and enjoy it before the,
>normie ruin it
afterthought idea. ive been smoking more weed and watching youtube videos of a few people that i fairly enjoy. and when i do i kinda gain a perspective and think of it and realize what these people are doing. Theyre sitting alone in their house or in a room thats isolated from others and talking into a camera for hours to get the right lines and not fuck up. they are molding themselves around their audience. and sure not every "youtube personality" shows their true self but or hardly any of them do but there is no way you cant tell me that these people dont have something a little fucked inside because they try and please an unfathomably huge range of people and it starts to become an actual life problem. its crazy to think that these people are making videos and at some point its all going to come crumbling down and its going to make that person miserable. after a while it stops being a hobby and can have true real life consequences. thats pretty mental to me man
its odd to me looking at it from another angle.
No I know what you mean. Now most famous channels are professionally done such as Markiplier recording in someones studio, even his later videos u can tell his reactions are so fake compared to his older stuff that felt more natural.
Also public pranks: I remember a channel in 2007 (forgot name) that used to act out game characters in public.
That was the best ever watching compared to pranks now that have got so fake, mainly only sexual stuff.
Pewdiepie is the original cancer of YouTube.
Hope we can all agree on that.
It's because it's more and more of a business, yes. In the old days they promoted channels regardless of number of subscribers or whatnot. But now YouTube wants to make money, so they're really only going to promote and suggest channels that advertise. Well, you can't monetize your videos until you have a certain number of subs. How do you get noticed and get subs? Luck. Come from another social media platform first. Get a shout out from an already established channel.
Are there still people out there making videos for fun? Sure. But the market of talent is over saturated, so they get buried. And it will only get worse from here.
ALSO I youtube's copyright policy is FUCKING annoying!
I used to have a channel where I created live moving comic like scenes using a doctor who audiobook.
I got like 10,000 views on it.
NOW youtube fucking removed it and gave me a copyright strike morning.
It is so hard to make fan related stuff now on that site.
Good point of view weedbro, these people make videos for a living and most quit their actual jobs to do it. But most of them inhibit fucking disgustingly rancid personalities that i cant wait for and will smile at one day when as you say it comes crumbling down.
>pewdiepie starting out wasnt even that bad.
he just got lucky as all fuck, started to understand how to make it work better and better for him and saw and opportunity and took it.
>he doesnt give a fuck about being called a faggot while hes making literally millions of dollars from youtube
Block all the shitty channels that youtube crams down your throat and forces into your suggestions. It takes time and literally 100 or so blocks but eventually youtube will just be shit that actually interests you and not pewdiepie and horrible "Top10 most" lists.
To block a channel go into the channel you want to block's main page
then click on the little flag icon
I try to block a few shitty channels every day. After a few weeks of this youtube is pretty awesome again. Sometimes it takes a few hours for your blocks to take effect. Block channels will still appear right after you block them.
Here's the thing.
In order to maintain a copyright, you have to prove that you are actively protecting and using it. That's why these companies go to YouTube. They can send one cease and desist or downright take down a video, and as long as they have the paperwork, they can keep the copyright. It sucks, but it is what it is man.
I've watched virtually non of his videos but those who hate on him to an extent are just so jealous.
>clears seven figures a year
>sits in front of a webcam for some hours a week
He obviously has a fucking amazing life even if his content is for retarded 10 year olds who will all create a sense of social security at the age of 30 for our generation to pay
Holy shit did not actually know blocking a channel meant their videos = gone from you
Youre my savior for the hope of a better youtube even if its something i have to do myself so it doesnt have any outside effect
>guise we have to go on the deepweb so we can watch our homoerotic fanfic videos cause the yootoob keeps taking them down!
has anyone seen the idubbbz roast video of this kid...opinions?
Yup, when you block them they literally won't even show up on your screen any more or on any sidebars. They are gone.
You can still go to their videos or main page if you click a link to it, but it won't pop up as a suggestion or in the sidebar anymore.
Unfortunate fact. This is why he contributes to a canceroua community only out to make $$$ since Google bought YT
It all went downhill when Google took over. FUCK GOOGLE+, FUCK COPYRIGHT "Rules", FUCK GOOGLE! They are almost as bad as Microsoft/Apple
it's fucking ridiculous, you happen to watch one video, then you're inundated with 3489353938 channels.
Youtube is only good for finding music, well it used to be seeing as they remove videos/channels the next day after liking a vid. I'll like a video, or add a video to my playlist, then the next day if I go look for it, it and the channel are removed. So, any time I try to save a song and it's removed soon after, I go torrent it.
Hilarious. Always funny to see people who are better at putting things into words than I am put things into words.
Spot on with all of his criticisms, and telling him to kill himself was just the cherry on top. Amazing.
there is nothing i like watching on youtube anymore, youtube was the best in 2008 for me, stupid, weird, random, clever channels. now its just a retarded tv channel for kids, and people that call themselves " youtubers " should kill themselves, also when i see some youtuber put "actor,director" on their facebook page i get aids and wanna vomit
i edited and uploaded something as a joke a year after youtube started and it got over a million views. now it doesn't matter what i upload - the site always gives certain people an unfair advantage so your videos are virtually invisible.
>mfw just the other month, a link which had about 200 fanedits of movies was taken down and they are all lost forever.
I even lost my downloaded copy of Batman Forever: Red Book edition which improved the movie so much.
>fuck my fucking worthless life
There used to be a back door link cos fanedit.org was banned from showing them to the public.
But recently i guess the governments found the backdoor link and closed them all.
Every single fanedit is off the net basically and especially that batman forever edit is gone forever.
Nah, the ones i've seen download/convert to shit quality, and if you want anything above 128kbps audio, you gotta pay for the plugin. Fuck that.
If i want the album, i'll torrent it, if I want just one track, I'll go to this site and get it at 320kbps
It's 2016 and people just realized YouTube has changed?
I've noticed this "change" since 2010.
As a matter of fact, here's a video straight from 2011 about the then current state of YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apr0wEAKk3s
Fucking retarded shit. It's just people smacking their lips and making the air bubbles in their mouths pop while whispering which sounds like people have a mouth full of wet cat food and people are sexually aroused by this.
OK, i didnt get anything from this video. I dont think anyone did. Im guessing his point was this though?
>Don't watch drama channels because if you make them popular, then any youtuber has the potential to have their reputation and livelihood ruined!
or more like this
>Don't watch drama channels because there isn't any creativity in them?
i can think of quite a few popular video types that people do that have 0 creativity also, but because all big youtubers "respect each other" he didnt want to call them out
What the fuck there's nothing relaxing about this it's just weird as hell
Anyone else watch the GradeA Under A video on it? (Pick unrelated)
I honestly can't tell, he popped up on my feed randomly a few weeks ago, it was his reaction to santoro's abuse video, after watching that and a couple of his weight videos I thought he was a super cool guy and totally inspirational, so I subscribed, but now I'm starting to realize he has a very unique sense of humour lol
He's a faggot, he pretends like he's super objective and unbiased but he chooses sides in basically every video he does/
The whole point of doing an independent news show is to not be biased, so he sucks.
I did watch his vidoe. and while I dont think he is wrong, he didnt really have a cohesive point that I can remember other than why we shouldnt take them seriously. Of course, to be fair, none of them really made a point to begin with that could be rebuttled. so I guess GradeAunerA didnt need to say much else
opinions on sleepcycles and northernlion
Fuck boogie and his anti-fat shaming crybaby videos.
Waaaaah I eat 20,000 calories a day, I can't help it!
I think the problem is bigger than youtube changing into a business.
The problem is normies, and the world quickly building up around th
em. Every service and community is turning for the worse as companies cater more and more to normies in hopes for getting a some of the money normies are so eager to stack up.
the fucking struggle man. ive lost so much music due to this. before i wised up and started downloading at least shitty versions so i can remember what they were later and find better quality ones
yeah m8. i dont really post on here much. its been a little over a year since ive even posted a reply. been lurking intermittently for some time though
OP here, although its unavoidable. this is the kind of shit i was talking about where its just a bunch of fanboys following people that couldnt give a fuck less about them now it seems like a weird place where nobody is having fun anymore but they have to do it because all dat glorious YT cash and it would be a personality destroying life changing event to quit youtube.
Yeah, if you save videos on there and they get deleted, you can still click on them in your playlist and it'll still say what it was (or partially what it was, it cuts it off).
If they say they're private, youre SOL.
Are you a fucking child, who gives a shit if he's a bully it's the Internet. Honestly you have a unfunny jew who reacts to videos stand on a his high horse and call out another YouTuber who reacts to videos only because he reacted to a retarded kid on the Internet.
You fucking garbage, if that retarded kid didn't deserve to get the shit he got then why do the people that h3h3 reacts to do?
Can someone tell me what H3H3 does? I'v enever watched his channel, just seen him on jontron. Is he really just a reaction guy? and a drama starter? did he only start drama the one time? is he a lets player?
hes a reaction guy but he does more than that. he actually puts a little time into his videos when he does reactions and its not just the video in the corner and him fake laughing or shit like that. his actual content is pretty solid i think. I personally couldnt give a fuck less about the drama. i just wanna see good shit on my screen
His content is horrible, he reacts to videos, that's it. If he actually made legitimate content I would have agreed with this guy's rant against leafy, but lets be honest he reacts to videos, he's shit
This is not true at all.
I don't really like either, but I know for a fact Leafy just browses /r/cringe and finds shitty videos that sperglord kids make independently.
The only kids h3h3 has 'made fun of' (which he never really attacked them personally) was Matty B and some other rapper kid, who have fairly big followings and a lot of money behind them.
Oh I meant it like they have the same target audience, not that they go after the same people. I know their "content" is different, but I feel like their fanbases have a huge overlap.
How do you know that leafy browses /r/cringe? Honestly don't claim that shit as a fact with no proof. Also H3H3 does target those 12 year olds that watch leafy, because onky braindead retards watch that shit and laugh
Same here, it is mainly about titties, although not shown or low tier entertainment, tittytainment if you will. Unless you know what you wanna see and search it up, they just throw their regular shit at you.
he's just doing zazen. you're taught to keep your eyes open, so it looks weird and creepy to the uninitiated. it's just zen buddhism. the fact that he can sit like that for 4 hours is pretty amazing. my knees would be absolutely killing me.
Can you blame him? If you got to sit around all day and make retarded videos, and make a good amount of money doing it, would you not take up that offer? Its good money for a low amount of actual work
I watch quite a lot of YouTube, usually follow a few bit and some small channels.
I can't believe people get upset over this stuff.
Okay, so YouTube is now a business where people use it to get money, so what?
You upset because you can't see autists lip synching to the Pokemon theme or fucking retarded kids sticking television remotes up their assholes at 240p?
Get over it.
Most people don't understand how much work it is to put together a well edited and entertaining video. I had to put together a 20 minute long training video for my work and it took hours and hours to make.
All the different camera shots of the work being done, voice overs, a few graphs and diagrams that I had to draw up. It really adds up and before you know ti you have spent 10 hours making a video that is less than 30 minutes long.
To do that on a regular basis and put out more than 1 video a week demands that a person does it as a living.
They make me feel very uneasy, even paranoid I'd say. Probably because I had a lot of psychotic episodes as a kid.
But aside from that I also think the whole asmr thing is really cringey. I'd put people who enjoy it at the level of foot fetishists, and lolicons in weirdness.
i remember you were able to watch full movies on google video.
I remember being 18 and watching this shit
holy shit its actually good for a college film.
I've never watched a video, but every time I see this fag's face, I get angry. He has to have the most punchable face on youtube. And that gay ass hairdo doesn't help. That same thumbnail from the OP keeps showing up in my recommendations for some reason. I get mad.
I find it frustrating trying to find more obscure channels. A lot of content on the front page or content showing up in search results have millions of views. I have found a lot of really good small channels with only a few thousand views on their videos. But it takes a lot of searching trying to find these good small channels.
the thing i find about the guys bitching about "drama" is they are the same guys that bitched about reactions but did nothing.
They are also getting very boring.
Drama ! = Content
Reactions != Content
Bitching / calling people out != Content
Lets plays == Content
Acting dumb and doing stupid stuff == Content
Challenges == Content
(bonus for jacksfilms)
Reading comments == Content (seriously, get back to the parodies!)
these days i try to find channels that have actual content, sadly the guys that deserve it tend to be hard to find or dont make enough so what they produce is limited.
Captain Disillusion is a brilliant example of it.his channel is about debunking video clips and the guy does all the effects himself. Check him out some time.
I'd rather give this guy my time rather than some bitchy gamer or some one that eats food from other countries and things its a challenge.
This dude had some ok content but then he got famous. Now he's a complete fucking prick.
i liked you tube videos back when it was a hobby.
now if that hobby turns into a way to make money then good for you as long as you keep the same quality or get better no one is going to say anything bad but i dislike people who only use you tube to make money not because they enjoy making videos.
I swear to god the worst thing on that website is fucking minecraft. I've never watched a fucking minecraft video. I don't play minecraft. WHY THE FUCK DOES IT KEEP COMING UP. I was looking for natural disasters the other day bc I wanted to see towns just getting rekt. THERE WAS A GODDAMN NATURAL DISASTER MINECRAFT VIDEO. WHO THE FUCK, WHERE THE FUCK, WHY. WHY. WHY. I WANT TO KILL THE MINE WHO MADE MINECRAFT.
I watched a Brandon Rogers vid the other day, and I was fucking dying. Jesus christ. The guy is a maniac. I don't really try and look at famous youtubers. But this guy has a direct link to my funny bone.
nice try mark. dye your hair blond to ease white hate or get fucked.
Pyrocynical=clickbait cancer videos god. All love, he's the best
H3H3= somehow edited videos with some actuall effort
Leafy= always the same videos. Either making fun of twelve years old kids, telling the to go kill themselves or telling a totally not made up sory.
GradeAUnderA= The Guy with that awesome accent
Literally the only channel I regularly watch is gophersvids. Gopher is a mod reviewer for Bethesda RPGs (along with let's plays and stuff). I'm also really disappointed with how far YouTube is from what it was when I was younger.
>tfw you were THE channel for battlefield with 3 million views in like 2007 but your ex deleted all 200 of your videos one by one while you were at work
>tfw only got 400,000 views in like 5 years because muh pyramid scheme
>tfw almost all of your videos have like 20-300 likes to about 2-10 dislikes
>tfw all your dislikes come from stupid people complaining the video they are watching isnt accurate even though its been 3 FUCKING YEARS since its been posted
>tfw everyone seems to like your stuff but nobody will ever see it
>try to post videos on other websites but nobody actually watches videos anymore
>everyone else seems to bot their shit
>see other people's stuff that is awesome but nobody likes their shit either
>people only look at top 5 posts which are all botted and stupid like LOL LOOK AT THIS PICTURE OF SONIC AND A TREE on a thread about the new Star Wars game
>get frustrated and look at the videos of all of these popular youtubers
>they do the exact same thing as me but usually spend 15 mins of the game doing fuck all standing around or walking talking about how we are going to shoot this guy etc
>watch them miss like 12 shots in a row
>they then fail at it, die, and yell: "VIDEO GAMES!!!"
>look at my videos
>my team is doing all kinds of crazy shit murdering tank squadrons with bicycles etc
>feel dead inside
have some webms
The fact that he's done over a thousand Issac videos and still manages to find new shit to talk about and be funny is astounding.
God bless that weird Canadian man and his cats,
What does /b/'s feed look like?
>>most of the old machinima respawn crew ( seananners, sark, hutch)
>> random skateboard manufacturers (for updates on who is going pro or who to follow)
I found this guy who does let's plays he just started making videos and his reactions are still cancerous. The cancer is spreading from the top down. Now even new you tubers are cancer from the get go.
Anyone who yells a lot and has stupid hair or dresses funky I automatically write off as cancer. Honestly most game videos where the creator is even visible tend to be cancer.
youtube, like 4chin, was always, is, and always will be filled with cancer. it's just harder to sift through it since thirteen years olds like to think they are worthy of use of the internet, and you only notice this now because you have just reached enough maturity to notice how shitty everything is.
yeah, all the entertainment has been bogged down to shit. i cant watch channels ive viewed for years because of all the ads and constant faggotry.
for me youtube is now science or gtfo.
Nah. I know I've been tossing his name around a lot, but look at Gopher's channel. All he does are mod reviews and let's plays, and he basically lives off his videos. He doesn't yell, he's not an attention whore (I have no idea what he even looks like), he doesn't comment on social issues, he just does his one thing and does it very well, and he has a lot of subscribers because of it. The closest he ever comes to cancer is occasionally getting annoyed with a game he's LPing, but it's done genuinely and his reactions aren't canned, and he doesn't overblow things for attention.
I know that's just one guy, but you can make money without being cancer.
Though honestly I don't think YouTube should be seen as a career choice, it's a hobby.