So if Trump wins say goodbye to 4chan guys. We all know he couldn't stand a massively popular site that can and is encouraged to literally talk about anything.
Donald Trump, you are a gangster and which supports your chair, smell like sulfur I vote for those that never chose the easy path of history, i vote for Martin Luther King, i vote for David Dellinger, i vote for Sean Eldridge, i vote for Rosa Parks and for Eleanor Smeal, i vote for Nelson Mandela, I VOTE HILLARY.
even if that where all true thats make him JESUS
when compared to Hillery
Bernie is our only hope. I truly believe he could win even if he doesn't get the nomination. All we'd need is to sign something with enough numbers to show an independent could win.
Hillary was supporting Goldwater on continuing segregation while Bernie walked with MLK jr. Hillary only supported same sex marriage in 2013 Bernie has before DOMA was even voted on.
There's so many crazy people I wouldn't be surprised if the documented accounts of people posting porn in comments then reporting a Bernie support facebook group for porn (sometimes posting even CP) were done out of their own free will and dickishness.
I'm pretty sick of China and the manufacturing base being moved. I consider it a national security issue when we can't make our own stuff. Period.
Just to add more detail I'm Canadian and white collar. Bring back the jobs some people want to be engineers. Robotics are super cool.
Jobs guys need North America to keep it's job. Somehow fix Mexico and we'll never be beat. Except for white genocide but one hurdle at a time.
He is lying about the wage gap, he'll probably support yet another redundant wage gap bill that literally does nothing besides waste tax dollars, but other then that he's been scientifically literate and consistent with his views. He has no intention of giving women free money ok? That's always the intention of these redundant bills and they always get shut down.
If you want more jobs in our country vote for Bernie besides bringing manufacturing jobs back he also wants to fund major infrastructure improvements which are desperately needed. Roadways alone are the worst they've ever been since we've switched to asphalt. This would bring in millions of jobs for low income people.
its Hillary vs trump
Their both shit, but Hillary is so sucking corrupt and criminal. not to mention she doesn't even know how to make regular reaction faces.
I think China would walk all over Bernie. We seriously need an asshole. I'm almost positive.
If you look at what Putin say's he's basically say'in America has it's best president ever.
Putin is not a stupid guy. He knows what it takes to deal with massive corrupt governments like China.
Only country in the world to maintain a fleet of mobile execution vans. Everyone needs to wake up.
That's it! I'm running for president and none of you can stop me. My platform:
>All retards, cripples, and negroes are to be executed immediately
>Immigrants must perform mandatory 5 year government labor for minimum wage
>Free pizza every Tuesday
Every political party has its problems. We need more parties than two running things. More choice and variety.
Spoiled? Do you understand inflation? If you do you'd know my generation you think is spoiled has less income per household than yours did. Why? Because minimum wage stopped keeping up with inflation in the 1960's and became less valuable overtime. Minimum wage was supposed to be enough that one person working 40 hours a week could support themselves a partner and up to three children. That is what it did cover up until the 1960's. Yet becomes of less and less worth and because technology is improving you think higher definition tv's make up for barely having food to eat. Or needing multiple full time jobs just to cover basic bills and necessities. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/07/23/5-facts-about-the-minimum-wage/
"I think China would walk all over Bernie. We seriously need an asshole."
You think Bernie can't lay down the law?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M2SQzA363A
Putin doesn't care about freedoms or transparency or gay people. Of course a fascist supports a fascist.
Democratic socialists listen to feminazis too much. We need more than two parties in the government, but come on, a redundant pointless gender wage gap bill and anti-racism training for police officers that are 99% of the time unnecessary is the most they'll do.
Bernie supporters are the youth, we sign petitions all the damn time buddy. One petition to prove to Bernie he could win as an independent isn't exactly hard to get done with our crowd.
55 here. Socialism fails every time its tried. I'm tired of supporting bums with my tax dollars. I can't fund my own retirement, I'm sure as hell not going to fund anyone else's through higher taxes or a bailout.
What's that? You can't fund your own retirement? Maybe that social security you've been paying into your whole life should actually be able to cover that for you huh? Your medical bills shouldn't cost an arm and a leg either, right? If you vote for Bernie you're voting for stronger social security and a small tax that replaces your hefty health insurance.
"Fails everytime" So those highways we have, the public schools you went to most likely and virtually everyone you know went to. All of those were failures? Those were democratic socialist ideas. What Bernie is proposing are proven effective and Cheaper on our taxes than our current health care system and are Democratic socialist ideas. https://berniesanders.com/issues/medicare-for-all/
With your logic Sweden, Denmark, Japan, and virtually every other modern country is communist. https://pjmedia.com/ronradosh/2016/01/18/no-new-york-post-bernie-sanders-is-not-a-communist/
Man, you're an idiot. Nearly all of the things posted in the image is fabricated. And you're worried about Trump? Seriously? Hillary, one of the most corrupt politicians in U.S. history, is more likely to come along and try to censor the internet.
I think you've read too much Norm Chomsky and Howard Zinn, hippie. Bernie is proposing theft of private property to give away to deadbeats, like you. Social sercurity was never intended to provide a retirement for anybody, surely you're not so bong headedly obtuse that you never learned that. Bottom line, socialism always runs out of other peoples money.
>Bernie is proposing theft of private property to give away to deadbeats
If you mean supporting bills the subsidize low income housing so people can afford to live somewhere. Or having tax funded built homes since Utah has already shown it's cheaper tax-wise to build small homes for the homeless than leaving them on the streets as the reduction in medical visits save a lot more taxes than the houses cost. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/25/housing-first-homeless-charlotte_n_5022628.html
If that's not what you meant then I guess you're just misinformed. If you think you're not show me a source please.
"Shut down" and "Politely give them the floor like he would anyone else who feels the need to speak at his rallies" are very different things. Yes they were rude, they thought he was just a racist because of their ironically racist assumption of all old white men. What they did was encourage him to point out his long career of civil rights reform. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/02/19/heres-a-long-list-of-bernie-sanders-accomplishments-with-citations/
Bernie is done. Why can't you faggots recognize that nobody is holding you back but yourself? Things could be better, but demanding other people's money is all fine and good until someone demands yours. If you had something to lose or weren't completely blind to what socialism really is, you would realize this. Doesn't anyone remember pictures of the USSR bread lines in the 80's? Not even 30 fucking years ago, those people were fucking suffering. The WORLD rejoiced when the Berlin wall fell. And saying that shit like roads and education is socialism is simplistic and naive. It's fulfilling the needs of the populace to maintain power and strength. Read about the soviet 40's - 70's and you will know what socialism will bring. Testosterone is back in style. Man up or GTFO to Canada, faggots.
>Social sercurity was never intended to provide a retirement for anybody,
Not a nice one, but if you didn't save up or have a retirement package you weren't supposed to be homeless or be unable to afford your medication and medical visits. It was retirment for bottom income workers and it worked well for a time.
> Bottom line, socialism always runs out of other peoples money.
Incorrect, look at all the billions we're giving to corporations from direct subsidies to tax loopholes. Clearly we aren't running out of money for that 'socialism'.
>It's fulfilling the needs of the populace to maintain power and strength.
Universal healthcare and better social security isn't doing that as well?
Some socialism is bad, non-democratic socialism, corporate socialism, but when it's democratic socialism it works. You say pointing out schools and roads is naive, but what do you think they called it when they worked to get that infrastructure in place? Democratic socialism. So are police and firemen. The point is that you can't just assume anything with 'socialism' in it is communism/bad. That is what is naive sir. Look at the oligarchy picture for info on corporate socialism.
Trump's a guy who will literally say anything, this site's in no danger. Make America Great Again.
Hes created tons of businesses they cant all succeed
Its cheaper. Thats the smart thing to do. He didnt create those laws
>hired undocumented workers
No. His project managers did. You cant look after everyone in a large scale operation
That's more an argument for conservatives not to vote for him. It's generally not very family-values-esque to have had multiple wives and have cheated on all, but the current one.
>Hes created tons of businesses they can't call succeed
If you know what you're doing and make smart investments for the most part you can. Also he only is rich because he got a ton of money from his father. If he literally just saved his money he'd be substantially richer than he is now. Do you understand what that means? It means he's a failure that got too much money to start in a rigged economy to go completely broke. http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/
> Only one
>Its cheaper. Thats the smart thing to do. He didnt create those laws
He didn't, but he sure as hell supports keeping them that way.
>No. His project managers did. You cant look after everyone in a large scale operation
Actually that's part of the responsibility of owning a business.
Nigga just tariff the fuck out of china's imports and raise the fuck outta import tax to where it's more economical to move jobs here. There will.be growing pains when prices spike before wages come up to balance it. 15 years shit be cash. No president can boom create jobs or fix economy. Took years to tank will take years to fix
It doesn't have to be an official site? Just something that lets you only vote once. If we can get enough signatures on it, that would show there'd be enough votes for him to win.
He's supported them his entire political career and fought for them. What you think all of that was an act? Why would he refuse literally millions from corporations if he didn't truly believe what he did? http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/02/19/heres-a-long-list-of-bernie-sanders-accomplishments-with-citations/
How can this be the fucking president of the United States?
>presidents caring about a japanese anal vore forum
holy shit i hate you plebbit faggots so much. Can't wait till he wins and you all threaten to move to canada but never do
'strawman'? You don't support democratic promises, usually a republican says that, maybe I was wrong in that assumption, but pointing out republicans are no saints either when it comes to corporate bribes is a statement of fact.
>tfw have to choose between a reptilian and a fascist
>"fascism" new buzzword for Trump
>these retards don't realize the obama administration is far more fascist than anything Trump proposes
Nah, sorry, even I agree with his proposed change to libel law. At this point it's so difficult to prosecute libel that people like Trump are the only ones with the resources to do so. People should not be able to publish easily refuted lies for incredibly obvious reasons, repeatedly, using their media money to control shit in, no doubt, their own image.
Shit, gamergate got nothing but lied about over and over and OVER by the very media it was in conflict with. Of fucking course, right? But everyone bought it unquestioningly. If media is going to have that kind of power over people then it's going to have to pay the fucking piper in terms of being responsible with that power.
Ok? They have universal health care, pointing that out when Bernie is showing support for universal health care makes sense whether Denmark calls it democratic socialism or not.
>disregards states rights
>intentional destabilization of countries without congressional approval
>drone strikes on american citizens (execution without due process)
where have you been the last 8 years?
>implying the clintons aren't reptilian fascists
2 years my ass. We can look at highs and lows but it's been the working class who are eating the dick for 50 years. It's not terrible burn the city but needs to be improved. I don't really give a fuck who wins or the other bullshit policies that come with. The question is what can the president do to help aid the life of the common man. By aid I mean better wages lower taxes.
Bush Jr. signed more executive orders. Had more federal overreach including disregarding states rights. What do you think the war in Iraq and Afghanistan did? The last one sounds like bullshit. Sources or I'll assume you heard that from faux news.
He didn't get rid of Guantanamo like he promised, he implied universal healthcare and he instead gave us a severely watered down version. He's not perfect, but don't act like republican presidents didn't do awful unconstitutional shit too. This is why I'm an independent we need more than two parties, we need parties that don't have dirty laundry that keeps them from completely calling out competition.
Where have you been the last 50 years faggot. Like Obama did all that shit and no one else. Get real. These cock suckers want one thing money and power period. Trump and Bernie also.
Bernie Sanders is your man. He'll give you a new tax, but you'll on average save thousands of a year because it'll replace paying for health insurance. He also supports federal minimum wage of $15. You should care about politics this time, we actually have a candidate that wants to get money out of politics. Giving us back our democracy. https://represent.us/action/theproblem-4/
Bernie makes less than 300k a year sir. He's middle class and always has been. He's refused millions upon millions from corporate 'donations' because of his beliefs in fair government with money out of politics. He's support civil rights his whole life and marched with MLK jr. He's the real deal, possibly the last of a handful unfortunately. Don't let this opportunity pass up.
>Bush Jr. signed more executive orders
have you read them? they are all nearly irrelevant, just putting extra funding towards education and shit
>The last one sounds like bullshit. Sources
r u fucking dumb m8? one second google search
>plz vote for my commie sympathizing jew who wants to raise everyones taxes
hes a rapist creep anyway
Bernie Sanders is a fucking retard who will destroy this country and then die a year and a half into his term. Just come to grips with the fact that God Emperor Trump will be running this country by this time next year.
The progressive income tax is by definition a statement that you have less of a right to your property the more wealth you have.
Whether you have one cow or 10 cows, you morally have the same degree of ownership over all of them. It's totally immoral to say "I know you acquired all of these cows through legitimate and voluntary means, but you no longer have a right to 5 of your cows. If you don't give them to us, you're going to be sent to jail. Yes, yes, I'm aware your neighbor only had to give us 1 cow, but he has less so it's only fair".
All a government is capable of is taking property and re-purposing it. This isn't necessarily evil, but it definitely is when a government declares that a need is a necessary mortgage on private property.
/pol/ is Trump headquarters, dickhead.
>the fact that he said it in 1972 changes anything
>out of context
uhh no its not.
neither was the "whites cant be poor" shit
You are supporting a rapist racist
Petitions don't win presidential elections there kiddo. Also work a few years and make a decent wage and tell me then that you want to let Bernie take money out of your pocket to give a straight C high schooler the opportunity to flunk out of college after his first semester because his mixtape is fire AF.
>Presidents job is to uphold constitution and secure prosperity for American citizens
>Trumps says his focus will be to create jobs in America
>Bernie's plan is to raise taxes and hope it doesn't destroy the middle class while he *tries* to fight corporations
>Hilary's top priority is to get rid of the parts of the constitution she doesn't like.
>Gary Johnson's focus is cutting off corporate welfare and cutting negligent spending while preserving the citizens individual rights and trying to create jobs (but you've never even looked twice at him cause Bernie sanders said free everything.)
>supports open boarders
Johnson is a democrat in disguise, I fucking swear. He talks about legalizing marijuana, but he also wants to put a big tax on it. What sucks is that Mcafee seems like a smart guy but doesn't have much presence, and Petersen sounds like he's reading off of a bumper sticker. Maybe next cycle.
>knowing this little about history
how do you think america became a manufacturing powerhouse in the past?
would have never had a tin or steel industry without them (among others)
I would support Bernie if he was going to be on the ticket, but he's not, it will be Shillary and Trump. Shillary will let the left descend further into moral panic culture, hell, she'll jerk it off on the way down because all the support that will generate will make The First Female Presidency a popular and active one. Post-Obama she's going to concern herself greatly with her actual efficacy in producing change, what she's not going to give a shit about is who supports that change and what that change actually is. Because she is the First Female President the women of the baby boomer generation will spend their retired-ass dying breaths vociferiously defending her and everything she does even if it makes no fucking sense. Just like with Obama aka The First Non-White President who was vociferously defended throughout 8 years he utterly wasted the majority of - he also allowed his medical thing to go forward even though the amount of concessions he made to get it done mutilated it into a massive failure.
Ask yourself, what does someone so rich they can buy or do whatever they want with the utmost protection and privacy - do you think they have any personal stake in what the law is? What does that person have left to want in life? Their legacy, their image. So Shillary will use the SJW to build her temple and in turn the SJW ranks will swell.
This cannot be allowed to happen, we must vote for the Trump.
>not caring how ppl identify
xir lost my vote
>It happened under protectionist policy, therefore, would never have happened otherwise
Have you heard of Chile, Singapore, and Hong Kong? They're the freest markets in the world, and have boomed in the last century because of that.
Even in a fundamentals of econ class they teach you that tariffs create DWL even when trying to account for externalities.
He's not a democrat in disguise, it's just the party who takes every issue individually.
Which to be quite honest is exactly what we need. The democrats are so far left now, normal lefties look like republicans, and the republicans are totally stagnated out because thanks to liberal control, republicans haven't even been allowed to have an opinion besides the few they can cling on to that haven't been taken away yet or mutated in to bullshit claims of *insert ism*
It's almost like you can support gay marriage and gun rights and freedom of speech at the same time.
>>It happened under protectionist policy, therefore, would never have happened otherwise
it wouldn't have happened in the same time frame
investors didn't want to go into tin production bc importing it from gb was easier than starting an entire new industry
>start industry to avoid tariff
>start exporting to gb
you can't change history, tariffs have worked when we were in similar situations to our current one
so take your open boarders lolbertarian bullshit back to complete irrelevance
>where it will always stay
>It wouldn't have happened in the same time frame
Then why have the countries I mentioned before had such immediate and explosive economic success when they adopted free market policies
>the government used force, and it worked
Yes, and slavery worked as well. It worked wonders for our economy, specifically in export and textile manufacturing in the north. That doesn't mean it's moral or just.
>You can't change history
No one wants to. That wouldn't make any sense. The point, which you've already demonstrated with your argument, is that if force produces result, then its justified. In different words, the ends justify the means. Markets operate at greatest efficiency without force and regulation.
You still haven't acknowledged the success of Chile, Singapore, Hong Kong, and as an addition, the resounding success of deregulation on the Chinese economy in recent decades.
Feliz cinco de mayo de parte de Donaldo
>equating trade regulations to slavery
stopped reading there
you faggots are so fucking autistic
this is why your philosophy will never be relevant
>one of my coworkers said she probably burns her suits after being around blacks
i believe it
The point is that the ends don't justify the means, I'm not equating them. But I'm sure you know that, and are trying to avoid the question because you know your position doesn't stand up to scrutiny
On a different note, do you have a higher res version of that image? I want it as a desktop background.
>The point is that the ends don't justify the means
If the end result is this country returning to an era of prosperity i wouldn't really give a shit what road we take there.
Especially when its something as tame as protectionist economic policies we've already used in the past.'
Shit, the first tariffs were put in place by founding generation, if anyone is being untrue to the original rights/direction of the nation its you tbqh
and no, i lost my lolbertarian folder but heres a semi-rare randlet
I don't have any obsession with the founding fathers.
This is where we won't be able to argue, because rather than a difference in consequence, it becomes a question of morality when you ask whether the ends justify the means or how "tame" the use of force is.
Rand would have been alright.
>OMFG, GUYS, Trump is SO fucking RICH!
>Look on Forbes site
>He's not in top 300
>Not in top 100 Americans
Yeah, he's rich, but the way you guys act like he's Scrooge McDuck or Richie Rich is ridiculous.
thats perfect for randlet
why do you think all his kids look like joe biden?
>knowing anything about history
Lemme fix that for you
3 HOT wives
4 bankrupt businesses out of dozens started
Started a wealth amass / manage learning annex
Has had to play the game to keep his businesses going, but wants to change the rules
Is hated by libtards because he loves America.
i hope so man, he needs something going for him
the height and suits he wears are suicide-tier