Hey guys, I'm having a little bit of a moral dilemma, that I believe has relevance to current events going on today - namely North Carolina and HB2.
I'm a transgender female. I was born in a man's body but identify as a female. I don't believe in conforming to sexist expectations as to what society believes are female qualities and I love the body I was born with. I would never mutilate myself to meet societal expectactions. So even though I'm objectively female, I have stereotypical "masculine" qualities (scruffy beard, beer belly, etc.).
Being a woman I of course believe I should go into the female bathroom, and do, but I'm morally questioning myself because all of the religious nut jobs and Trump tards. Mainly because I do enjoy masturbation in the privacy of a stall, it's just a fetish but harmless and legal because no one can see or hear me doing it. I'm totally within my legal rights to do this obviously...but all this talk of "oh my wife and daughter will be subjected blah blah" from all of these conservative psychopaths is making me question myself. Can anyone else relate?
You're mentally sick; you were born a man and will always remain a man. You should stay in the male bathroom for the safety, security as comfort of genuine women.
Before you call someone a bigot, I'm defended the majority of the US's population from being forced to have men in their restrooms, you want to make them uncomfortable for your own comfort.
Fuck off back to /soc/ where the rest of your kind are.
you are retarded, do you no understand what a joke is or bait?
I, too, wish to be legally masturbating in the women's bathroom. I now adopt OP's position as my own. Born a male, identify as a gay female, use (really USE) women's bathrooms and dress and act cis/white for irony.
my god, you are LITERALLY the most IGNORANT AND ILLTERATE FUCK I have EVER seen browsing before What gives you the RIGHT ️️ to ask me what my gender is? MHMM? NOTHING THATS WHAT ️️️️️️️️️Since you're SOOOOOOO curious I'll have you know that I am a G E N D E R F L U I D I'm not gonna sit here ⬇️⬇️ and explain what that is to someone as IGNORANT as you, but I'm gonna tell you anyways ️ Being G E N D E R F L U I D means that I am both M A L E (cis scum) and F E M A L E ️️️️ I can swap ⬇️⬆️️⬅️ between these genders as I please️️️️️️️ You're ignorance is literally OOZING out GERMER
>breasts and vaginas are only believed to be female
This is why we laugh at you.
correct. if my wife or daughter were in the same bathroom as your gross fruity autistic ass jerking off i would put a fucking bullet in your head. just come to terms that youre a gay dude with a mental illness already and leave normal america alone.
why do you have to idendify as a women? the names, male and female are just place holders to help people determine your physical attributes and even your sex organs. why can't you just be you? why are you trying so hard to be something that people tell that you cant be when its just a place holder word?
you fucking moron. im not saying homosexual males are going to sexually assault females. im saying i dont want my wife and daughter in the same room as OP's fucked up ass wanking his cock wishing it didnt exist.
I have much the same problem. Though 6'1", born male, pot-belly and beard, I identify as a black lesbian female. So when I grope a girl in the female bathroom and she squawks, is she homophobic, transphobic, or just racist? I am heading to Target to find out!
>I'd rather the faggot play with his dick in the bathroom with me
Not the same guy here, and dont get me wrong, im an open-minded guy here, but realistically and scientifically speaking, you are a male, you were born a male, with a dick, and everything else that makes you a male.
You can believe whatever you want, believe that you are female, or whatever, but that doesnt change the fact that you are a male, and no matter how much surgery you might take, that will never change.
As to this whole bathroom thing, this goes down 2 paths, the first is that you get your way, good right? You get what you want, you are comfortable, yadda yadda yadda, but, that also means that men who see themselves as men can lie about what they "identify" as, and thus get free access to female bathrooms for whatever reason they wanted to (for bad or good). So that could do more harm then good.
Your second path is you sacrifice your comfort and continue to use the male washrooms, you dont want it sure, but it also works out to be safer in the end, either option something is being sacrificed here, as well as comfort of yourself and those around you, at that point, you have to think of others instead of yourself.
Yes, but people not seeing someone do illegal shit doesn't make it legal. The problem, in my opinion, is not men jerking off in a female toilet, it's men jerking off in toilets at all. My wife or daughter encountering a masturbating dude is just as bad as my son encountering one. Fuck, I don't want to see one either.
I agree. Look. I understand your moral dilemma. At this point, if you pass well, I don't really take any issue with it.
Same thing if I find a transman in a public bathroom. I really don't care.
Why? It's not my fucking business.
If the first thing that comes to mind when you identify as trans is if you can get into the right bathroom, you probably need to find better priorities, like ensuring more people accept you.