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Debate me as to why I shouldn't vote for Donald Trump as the next president of the United States of America
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>>682828037
Mr.Rump, quickie here: how are you going to have time to rule the moon when you are SO FUCKING BUSY MAKING MAYMAYS?
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>>682828892
what does that mean son?
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>>682828037
no. you should vote for Trump, he's gonna make one of the best presidents in US history
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>>682828037
1. Trump's a bigot
2. Trump's tax plan is shit
3. Thinks climate change is a Chinese hoax
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>>682829048
its a hoax but its been made up by liberals not the chinese
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Not American but when is this great time trump is always referring to when saying "make America great again" from an outside view America has always been pretty fucked up
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Just do it. He is way more interesting than hillary.
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>>682829048
how is trump a bigot?
how will his tax plan be shit?
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>>682829249
Trump made bigoted comments calling illegals "rapists" and made the claim that they're "bringing drugs"

and Trump also believes all Muslims are potential terrorists, which I shouldn't have to tell you is a bigoted irresponsible statement
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>>682829548
the cartels bring mass amounts of drugs over the bored.. from Mexico. Is this something you are just learning right now?
He doesn't believe all Muslims are potential terrorists he believes that ISIS needs to go and people need to stop calling ISIS sympathizers "moderate muslims"
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>>682829249
>how will his tax plan be shit?
Trump is basically calling for massive tax cuts to the population and to business

where's the revenue shortfall going to come from, and we're talking huge

plus you cannot guarantee businesses will hire if their taxes get cut

There is no provison in Trump's plan to make sure they don' t just sit on the money
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He's basically a non-PC, anti-immigration liberal.

Pros:
Anti-PC

Cons:
Everything else

I just de-registered as a Republican and am going to vote Libertarian this year. I think they could get over 15% this year... Meaning Trump voters just put Shillary in office.
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>>682829249
>lower taxes
>somehow lower the deficit
and please dont give me that "we'll collect more sales tax" bs, the US has been a near-saturated consumer market since the 50s
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>>682829548
Look at Europe
Let a few in, they ALL are entitled to your country.
Stay cucked
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>>682829548
Die. 4chan is not lgb-terrorist friendly
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>>682828037
no.
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>>682828037
Because the country isn;t a reality tv show
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>>682829741
>He doesn't believe all Muslims are potential terrorists

actually that's exactly what he said

""Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on," a campaign press release said."
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>>682829144
>its a hoax but its been made up by liberals not the chinese
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>>682829777
>cucked
stay stupid hivemind
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>>682829752
>>682829768
but can't we make up that money by not spending it on idiotic things like NATO and the ridiculous amounts of foreign aid? that is part of Trump's plan

you might be surprised to learn how much money we send to israel for "food aid"... why?
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>>682829777
Trips of hard truth
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>>682829801
actually it is faggot
you're just still in the closet
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>>682829249
this has nothing to do with being a good president.
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>>682829249
>Implying you're not ignoring the third point
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>>682829893
he was a businessman before having a reality show... and the reality show is about becoming a successful businessperson... i don't know what your point is
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Because trump is hitler
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>>682830023
there is plenty of science to suggest that climate change is a real thing.. there isn't that much to definitively suggest that it is because of humans directly....

key word: definitively (look it up)
also you realize that ice ages happened before the industrial revolution right?
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>>682829964
I might be surprised but there is no spelled out way Trump is going to make up the shortfalls.

And social programs will most likely be cut or underfunded, so no. It's a shitty idea.

Tax the fuck out of the rich, raise middle class slightly, increase wages so people on the bottom can actually start paying taxes
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TRUMP IS A LIBERAL. HE JUST ISN'T A SJW DEMMIE. HE HAS CUCKED ALL OF YOU
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>>682830302
>Tax the fuck out of the rich
yeah when the rich make the rules right? legislation stupid nigger do you even?
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>>682829964
>idiotic things like NATO
yeah it's totally stupid to have an intercontinental security force
what a waste of money
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>>682830435
it's a waste of money when the countries aren't paying the agreed upon amounts. yes absolutely
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>>682830420
actually the rich are divided just about evenly liberally/conservatively (go figure) and many rich people have gone on record saying that they could pay more taxes if required
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>>682828037
Because he clearly has a micropenis
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he's a very headstrong and fairly dominant guy, and as good as these qualities can be in business etc, strong-arming sensitive issues is a relatively brash style of leadership that might cause problems. also he's still pretty backward in terms of homosexuality, that issues is just old as fuck and has been more or less figured out now by nations sensibly rather than messing around there.

however, i support him, he's better than all the competition and his mind is absolutely in the right place
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>he wants to waste tens of billions of dollars building a huge wall that won't work and continue to spend tens of billions of dollars every year maintaining the wall and paying people to patrol the wall
>he actually thinks mexico would ever pay for it
>he actually, unironically wants to END nuclear non-proliferation because he actually, unironically thinks everyone having nukes means the world is safer
>he spends his free time getting into flame wars on twitter like a fucking middle schooler
>he actually, unironically thinks global warming doesn't exist and that china made it up to get more money
and what >>682829904 said. the only reason he has so much support is because he takes advantage of the "us vs them" mentality stupid people seem to be perpetually stuck in, and because said people like being told that their problems are simple and easy to solve. "blame them. it's their fault. get rid of them and no more problems"
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>>682830245
How is trump like Hitler?
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>>682830507
so you'd rather just have a huge hole in our security network because the US is carrying other countries' defense shortfalls?

Do you really think the US isn't getting something in return for doing that?
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>>682830564
>actually the rich are divided just about evenly liberally/conservatively (go figure)
no they aren't fucko... because then you wouldn't have statistics like the top 1% own 40% of wealth blah blah

>inb4 warren buffet
ever think that those guys made money first and then conveniently spoke up? to to weaken competition no less
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>>682830302
The rich the smart ones, they got rich for a reason will just find a loophole to get out of paying, the dumb ones will lay off their workers and actually pay not going to be an issue because hillary is potus.
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I mean, just look at it
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>>682830724
blames Muslims the same way Hitler blamed the Jews for one
relies on thug redneck vote
wants the US to become a nationalistic worker class
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>>682830725
>Do you really think the US isn't getting something in return for doing that?
what are we getting? show it to me in raw numbers because it is so obvious to you
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>>682830762
riiight
rich people don't vote Democrat, have charitable foundations to liberal causes, run for office

talk out your ass much?
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>>682830796
yes the rich will always find a loophole or two
so what

raise the taxes anyway
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>>682829964
but he doesnt have plans to reduce that, thats my point, all hes going to do is increase spending and decrease taxes
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>>682830981
yeah the clintons left the white house dead broke didn't you know?
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>>682829215
when is this great time trump is always been pretty fucked up "make American but when saying "make American but when is this great again" from an outside view America great time trump.
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>>682829548
Well since 80% of women who cross th eborder illegally are raped by the men they travel with, the rapists thing isnt really wrong
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>>682830882
actually I'm not the one making a claim that there's a problem with being part of NATO
you want a huge hole in our security net probably because of some Paultarded rhetoric, I'm guessing to boot
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>>682828037
the internet people tell me he is a baddy
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>>682830724
Are you Fucking kidding me? He wants to deport Mexicans because they are brown. Hes a racist and a bigot just like hitler.
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>>682831102
Wat
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>>682830631
>>682830801
at least he has balls, compared to hillary.
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>>682830844
I didn't realize that Trump had written a book about how Muslims are destroying the country and said he wanted to put them in camps
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>>682831084
you are just talking out of you ass idiot boy he has mentioned billions upon billions of dollars we lose in trade... he plans to fight that

that money alone gets turned around into practical things like defense and a national border. he wants to support the vets and build up the army again. he wants to stop spending money on the idiots in NATO who can't protect themselves.
stop acting like you know where all this money is or isn't faggot. the msm is a polar canon where you haven't even seen real "presidential talk" yet because it has just been party in-fighting
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>>682831092
One-third of the nation's "1%" identify themselves as Republicans, 41% as independents, and 26% as Democrats

close enough to what I was saying

http://www.gallup.com/poll/151310/u.s.-republican-not-conservative.aspx
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>>682830762
Just because YOU think that democrats are "anti-rich people" because of a oft cited statistic doesn't mean that the rich are all conservatives. Among the very richest, meaning billionaires, it even skews towards liberals (though it is a small sample size)
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>>682831195
How can that be an accurate stat. If they are illegals someone would have a list of all of them in order to poll them
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>>682831342
Incorrect, he wants to deport illegals. Legal Hispanics, ones who did the process, often support him
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>>682831445
so you're just going to ignore the 3 points I made and do a funnee

k
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>>682828037
You might as well, its not like there is anyone better running. That doesn't mean he's a good candidate, just that they are all utter shite.
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>>682831494
no it isn't really. also republican vs democrat... are you serious nigger? those titles really don't mean anything.
your argument is dems are as nice or more nice than repubs? stop being a child
>>682831524
see the above
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>>682831445
He literally said all Muslims should wear I.D badges, didn't someone else do that with tattoos? I can't remember
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>>682831453
>trump doesn't have a plan to reduce the deficit. he's just gonna decrease taxes and increase spending
>you're talking out your ass he totally has a plan. he's gonna decrease taxes and increase spending on a "national border" (read: big useless wall that won't work)
way to go, retard. you sure showed him.
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>>682829215
I'm sure if you pressed Trump on exactly what he's thinking about he'd say the post world war 2 economic boom

The beauty of the phrase is it's ambiguous and people can use it to fantasize about whatever they like.

Reagan used it during his campaign too
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>>682831746
you literally need to find the clip because he didn't say that... he said people come in the border and we don't know who they are.. he said they could be isis or isis recruit... who knows? he also said we should temporarily ban muslims until we know where they are coming from and why..... problem muhammad?
>>682831791
you sure showed me with your awesome greentext
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>>682831700
faggot I'm a Bernie supporter:

the 26% identifying as Democrat
and possibly some of the other two groups
would not oppose paying more taxes
they're not fucking stupid

try thinking that about that for a minute
they're not all evil Republicans
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>>682831571
No friend, let me ask you a personalot question how white are you or are you one of the brainwashed, minorities convinced you won't be deported when furer trump gets in office.
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>>682830801
you wot m8
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>>682831434
>>682831434
>>682831434
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>>682832025
>rich people will pay more money cause they are nice!
i wish i could be this dumb and young
>they're not all evil Republicans
some are even evil democrats!
nopthey're not all evil Republicans
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>>682831991
This is the official Trump position:

"Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on,"
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>>682831746

"[insert candidate here] is literally Hitler" has never been more appropriate, sadly.
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>>682832025
So how's your wife's kid doing?
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>>682832258
so you're just going to foam at the mouth instead of addressing the points

k
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>>682832374
so how's your ADD?

can't focus on the topic?
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>>682832329
literally what is wrong with that? do you think you can just waltz into iraq on a whim? they might detain you oh no how racist of them
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>>682831453
The trade deficit is 10 billion or so, trumps wall is more than that isnt it? Also, the trade deficit is part of why the US has cheap goods in its markets in the first place. US has some of the cheapest consumer goods in the developed world (which is why our purchasing power is still in the top 10 where our GDP per capita is not).
Supporting the vets? Democrats have tried passing stuff like that through congress but republicans that aren't with McCain never allow it. Building up the military is RETARDED because we spend more than the top 8 countries combined, and its a huge portion of our government spending already. You certainly haven't displayed any knowledge yourself you fucking kike. Trump is going to irreversibly damage america's image and foreign diplomacy position, most foreign leaders already think hes a joke and wont cooperate with him, hes completely oblivious to foreign matters that aren't all over the new (he probably still doesnt know the difference between Hamas and Hezbollah) and hes going to reduce aid, aid which helps stabilize much of the world. You have no idea how important american foreign aid is...I dont want to spend money on israel either, but the stimilus packages we send to say...Angola? Thats damn important
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>>682832329
What's wrong with that? Happened during during the 70s and 40s. Why do you hate America?
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>>682832456
I can only laugh at bernie bots. It's all they are good for, comedy.
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>>682832411
how can i? you are a simpleton who thinks that voting for the democrats on some misplaced principal is a solid argument
fuck off
>>682832530
the trade deficit for Mexico alone is 58 billion as of 2015
https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c2010.html
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>>682832490
yeah sure nothing's wrong with a really vaguely worded statement that implicates an entire culture as terror suspects

nothing
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>>682832575
what happened?

the US banned all Muslim travel? Not a chance.
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>>682828037
Americans, Americans.... Jesus Christ (a statement you think makes you enriched....)

You all played along with the Trump BS, and now it's slowly being a reality, you're shitting it.

Ah fuck it, I can't even be bothered. Just die, the lot of you fucking retards
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>>682832744
so you're so strung out you can't focus on the points being made

have at it
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>>682831700
You didn't even address what I said. >>682831524
The distribution of party members among the richest is basically even, thats a fact.
Secondly, thats not even his fucking argument, when did he say that?
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>>682832792
that's not what it was though
i just explained it back to you....

do you think you can just travel anywhere in the world because you want to? try booking a flight to pyongyang
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>>682829048
Also thinks vaccines cause autism.
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Vote for prez here http://www.strawpoll.me/10138441/r
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>>682832752
Democrats consistently vote for high progressive taxes on millionaires
and libertarians and Republicans might pay more taxes if the situation were deemed necessary or critical

you're just being stubborn
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>>682832360
>>682831746
I agree with this but I refuse to use this as an argument because people arbitrarily used it as an argument against Obama somehow
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>>682832957
yeah it's even... and yet they are all still rich and getting richer... this is a known fact not a bernie meme.

so what is your fucking motivation to vote democrat?
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>>682828037
Kim Kardashian says you should.

>Kim for Veep 2016
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>>682832962
we aren't a dictatorship like N Korea

why do you want that?
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>>682829760
You're an idiot if you vote third party. The two party system is flawed at the core but a benefit of it is that one side keeps the other side in check. So not one side can get too powerful. It's a shitty system but if you vote libertarian you ruin the election for both sides. And you ruin it for yourself. The party system is shit. But you're even shittier to not participate in it
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>>682833024
>Trump=antivaxxer
oh yeah that one won't go away either

Trump is a fucking loose cannon basically
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>>682831991
his "greentext" included a fact, the fact being Trump has no plan to fix the deficit, which is a core of republican rhetoric
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>>682832835
During the hostage crisis Iranians were barred from entering the US. And during WWII, well nips and krauts were interned. Which in retrospect is more fucked up than barring an ideology.
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>>682833183
i want a nice bored like north korea.. nice and efficient. problem?
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>>682828037
because voting doesnt do shit, you can spend your time better
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>>682828037
>Lower taxes
>spend billions on wall
>Billions bombing middle east
America will be great again with more debt.
>Inb4 Mexico pays for it
That's utter bullshit
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probably the best reason not to is that he wouldn't be running anything.

when you have an outsider, he has to delegate everything to the insiders. That is what Obama has done for eight years ... his cabinet officers have gone rogue. He has no control. This will be the same for Trump.

OTOH, Hillary will be no different.

Plus, Trump says he wants to audit the Fed. TOP FUCKING KEK
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>>682833279
he has repeatedly pointed out the 58 billion we lose to mexico....part of why he wants a wall. that is nothing compared to the 300 billion we lost to china but you knew all about that right?
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Racist, bigot, slander arrogant dumb try to make any of these points invalid about trump profit you cant.
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>>682833279
Growth
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>>682833464
we will all profit from Trump... unless you are illegal sorry
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>>682833284
We were at war with Japan and Germany. Two countries. "Muslim " is not a country.
>Iranians were barred from entering the US

What part of "Trump is calling for a ban on ALL Muslims" are you not getting?
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>>682832027
>No friend, let me ask you a personalot question how white are you or are you one of the brainwashed, minorities convinced you won't be deported when furer trump gets in office.
Nice one. You're a real dummy. It's absurd to say that trump wants to deport LEGAL CITIZENS when he specifically said he wouldn't. Hmm yeah you're a dummy. I hope you did in a hit and run and the culprit gets off without consequence
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>>682833552
Did your mom drop you at birth?
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>>682833379
>America can't afford to secure its borders

Now THAT is BS.
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>>682833298
you'll have an old mamasan giving you bjs
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>>682833589
not all iranians are muslim you generalizing fuck
>>682833640
are you illegal? you also said profit re-read your post dummy
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>>682833737
not even talking about Iranians assmuch
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>>682829752
>no guarantee that they will hire more workers
>they'll just sit on the money
Trump will implement huge tax punishmets on money and jobs witheld offshore
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>>682833552
I don't want to triple the deficit because he wants to lower taxes and doesn't understand macroeconomics. But I guess it'll be worth it to get a pointless wall.
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vote for Trump, he's gonna make one of the best presidents in US history.
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>>682832752
>trade deficit for one country
>doesnt include trade surpluses
overall its 40 billion
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/balance-of-trade
Trumps wall will cost 17 billion in materials alone. What about labor (which usually costs more than materials in construction) maintenance, inspection, the additional security costs (he plans on adding more law enforcement).
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>>682829777
he's on tonight and his trips dont lie
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Bernie or Trump are fine by me. Anything to fuck over slimy career politicians.

There are rumours that Trump is talking with Ron Paul as well, so things could get very interesting very soon.
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>>682833852
it was in your greentext you mook
>>682833943
>>682833994
>made up figures.com
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>>682829548
DID YOU KNOW?

Trump doesn't mean half the things he says. He says them solely because he knows the more attention he gets the more votes he gets.
If you are one of the retards who goes on about all the things he says then your argument is shit.
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>>682833656
Not if we lower taxes with no way to pay for it.
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>>682833618
OK look small steps first we kick illegals out then maybe we kick out black people, you know I really don't like Puerto Ricans let's get rid of them. Hitler only wanted blonde hair blue eyes trumps vision is to create a white controlled country pure breed white look in the mirror friend hope you don't have Irish in you he'll kick you out eventually.
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>>682828037
You should vote for him.
/thread
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>>682833876
there is no such proposal on Trump's webpage
maybe I missed it
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform
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>>682833092
Are you retarded? To distribute the wealth more evenly. Just because their democrats doesn't mean they suddenly have their own personal increased tax rate you retard.
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>>682833221

Many eu countries have more than 2 parties and it works much better than in the us
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>>682833994
And illegals cost approx 100billion a year. Deport all the illegals and then allow the decent ones back. The wall will pay for itself.
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>>682834080
What figures? I'm just pointing out that he wants to lower taxes (fact) bomb the middle east (fact) and build a wall all along the entire Mexican border (fact)
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>>682829801
A quick trip to the front page would show you thay its way further than lgbt friendly
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>>682834080
you're another ADD faggot who can't focus on the topic

Trump wants to ban ALL Muslims
The ban on Iranians, although that was probably also un-Constitutional, at least narrowed the focus to possible suspects in Iran
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10138441
http://www.strawpoll.me/10138441
>>682834333
and we have the resourced to do all of that many times over
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>>682834082
no I don't know that

and when you make a statement in the public record as a Presidential candidate, EVERYTHING you say gets taken seriously
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>>682834088

You're not believing half of what either candidate says at this stage, do you?
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>>682829048
>implying bigots arent everywhere and bigotry isnt a natural quality of the human condition
>implying the taxes already imposed arent shit and the other candidates have better ideas
>implying climate change ISNT a chinese hoax
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>>682834088
you could take it out of the military spending
or reduce foreign payments
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>>682834464
>Trump wants to ban ALL Muslims
and i am not seeing a problem with that... there are muslim theocracies that don't want YOU believe it or not
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>>682834486
That explains the national debt.
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>>682834596
yeah bigots are everywhere

better not criticize any

kek
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>>682833431
>>682833466
You guys are fucking retards. A TRADE deficit =/= GOVERNMENT SPENDING deficit. They are completely UNRELATED. The trade deficit is in the PRIVATE SECTOR and the GOVERNMENT SPENDING DEFICIT is in the GOVERNMENT.
Its already been mentioned but...american consumers BENEFIT from the trade deficit with china. Cheaper goods, MUCH cheaper goods. I want my t-shirt to cost 8 dollars, not 30.
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>>682834596
implying the coach didn't make you sit in the corner during PE class today
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>>682834685
oh i forgot you know all about the national debt. tell me who holds that debt?
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>>682834634
>Trump wants to ban ALL Muslims
>and i am not seeing a problem with that
bigots don't

that's kind of the point
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>>682834563
He banks on that.

Everybody takes it seriously and he gets more attention

It's been proven that the more attention a runner for president gets the more votes they get. Regardless of their platform.

I personally support him over Hilary. I'd rather have someone who is openly corrupt that the people CAN riot against than someone who can hide their corruption where the people will grumble but not do anything.
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>>682834318
oh really? so corrupt ass iceland and the shit economy of spain arre working?
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>>682834604
>Lower military spending
>Bomb middle east
Gee, I wonder how he'll do both?
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>>682829215
from an inside view too
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>>682834848
you sure have some cool stories faggot
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>>682834924

Thanks anon, i get them from the story book where i fuck your mother.
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>>682834331
illegals drive the cost of goods down more than 200 billion a year, though thats mostly in agricultural regions like California
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>>682834824
lel what is bigoted is thinking that you can go anywhere you want in the world with no consequence. liberals are so coddled it's funny.
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>>682834824
I'm not a muslim, so tell me why I should give a shit that he wants to ban them all? That's between him and muslims. When he wants to ban white males then I might care.
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>>682835002
triggered
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He could fix America but he won't because his plan isn't solid. (thats what pisses me off the most, rich mu fucker) He has no angle other than his money and big words that people normally only say behind closed doors. Its like Eminem running for president. Yeah its all funny at first, but now its real. The reason I wouldn't vote for Trump is that most rich people on his caliper have fucked COUNTLESS people into the poor house. The fact that he said he'd run as a republican if he ever ran because republican voters are stupid and they'd vote for me. Also there is no point in voting for a man whom mostly just white people will vote for. The only way he has a chance is if the demographic prove to be illegal or felons.

Jesus OP, don't get involved in bullshit elections. For fuck sakes, its a game show, and unlike the normal ones, we pay for it ourselves.
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>>682834753
faggot cant even greentext properly

>implying i play in competitive sports that require a coach.
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>>682834080
>only the figures I post are accurate
its from a government database nitwit
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>>682835060
says the faggot who wants the US to turn into some communist dictatorship like North Korea
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watch John Stossel: Trump: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly
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>>682834048

but they're lying anon. Are we onto something here?
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>>682833737
For your information I'm jewish.
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>>682835048
I wasn't aware, could you give me a source for this so I can research it further?
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>>682835072
why should you give a shit about human rights?

that's up to you
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>>682835165
it's hard to read
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>>682835285
incoming
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>>682835288
>implying my own rights, as a white male non-muslim, are being infringed upon by him banning muslims
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>>682830724

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
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>>682829048
not actually a bigot at all. if he is, name one racist thing he has actually said.

>pro tip: you can't.

trump's tax plan looks fantastic for business growth, something that we need as we are, right now, on the cusp of another economic downturn like 2008.

you got me here, but hey, he can believe whatever he wants personally. i don't care if he thinks climate change is a hoax for the same reason i don't care what god a president believes in - it means nothing
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>>682835048
not that anon but it almost seems like the real goal is to abolish the concept of a minimum wage altogether, at least out there in agricultural areas
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>>682835285
>implying your religion alters the impact of the argument in any way shape and or form
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>>682835558
yeah acutally I have, and in this thread

try to pay attention and not just jump into threads faggot
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>>682834740
Why did you quote me? >>682833466

And trade deficit is shit. consumers benefit but it's an indication that they're suffering as employees because manufacturing is elsewhere.

And if you eventually default on the debt, the manufacturing know-how is still outside of the country and nobody will send you those shiny mercedes anymore.
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He said he wants to close the internet, goodbye 4chins
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>>682835558
>trump's tax plan looks fantastic for business growth,
no it doesn't

you have absolutely no guarantee that tax cuts for business will be incentive for them to hire

none

trickle down economics is a pipe dream
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>>682835681
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>implying his stupid hair isn't reason enough
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>>682835558
>i don't care if he thinks climate change is a hoax
well actually it is a problem if the President isn't on board with the rest of the country, with the armed forces, with scientists, with citizens aware of the issues

it sounds more like you aren't aware of it
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>>682835626
My parents immigrated from isreal, dumbass. This country is built on the back of immigrants we have no right to kick anyone out. We were all immigrants once except for the native American respectfully.
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>>682835231
the only person who wouldn't like that is probably a societal leech, an illegal immigrant... or an actual terrorist
>>682835285
gross
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>>682835734
>you have absolutely no guarantee

that's right. in life and in politics you have no guarantees. EVER. so why is that the criteria?
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>>682835286
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/14/AR2007101400993.html
I can't remember where I got that number, heres an article by a paki using research by a jew(ish university)
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>>682835935
>My parents immigrated from isreal, dumbass. This country is built on the back of immigrants we have no right to kick anyone out. We were all immigrants once except for the native American respectfully.

Color of skin matters.
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>>682835942
do you know how utterly retarded your responses to the points I have been making are?

that bored huh
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i am not american but i would like to see it live who is going to be elected when is it going to happen?
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>>682835288
muslims aren't humans tho
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>>682835935
Umm, we kinda do.
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>>682835952
because history already shows that tax cuts have not spurred businesses to hire

why do you think someone repeating the same mistake isn't going to get a bunch of shit flipped for doing it?
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>>682836099
not really. i am an american.. and a socialist. so i care about fellow americans (you)... even the dumb ones.

sorry you haven't grown up and payed taxes yet you little armchair activist
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>>682836160
sure, edgelord
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>>682829144
you haven't been updated with the current right wing rhetoric. They say now that climate change is real, but human activity has no effect on it.
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>>682836125
november 6th we got some time
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>>682836324
yeah well you sound like a retard
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>>682829144
Well done sir. You win. You are officially the stupidest motherfucker on the internet. I'm busy otherwise I would contact them but I have included a link so you can contact the Guinness World Record people and let them know.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/set-a-record

Fucktard.
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>>682836435
k
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>>682836453
notice the rest of us didn't take that faggot's b8
faggot
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>>682836528
I'm glad we agree
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>>682835286
His number is probably wrong. Logically speaking, in a perfect economy, the "cost" of lower labor (which is what "cost of illegals" refers to in general) should be the same as the benefit in change price of goods. However this changes slightly (probably no more than 25%) due to market conditions and whether or not employers have the upper hand over employees (at least in comparison to the "perfect" model) . So essentially the lower cost in labor should *roughly* offset the lower wages. As far as taxes go, most illegals wouldn't fall within a decent tax bracket in the first place because they are poor.
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>>682836342
cool buzzwords that doesn't disapprove that muslims are savages that don't integrate into western culture
go suck ahmed cock and watch your family get fucked by pack of pakistani migrants
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Because Americans aren't orange
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>>682836603
that Trump will be a great president? yes he will
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>>682836195
I couldn't expect 4chan to be supportive of people of other skin color and nationality. You all are a bunch of inbreeding white privliege assholes, I can't understand how you live with yourselves openly supporting human suffering. I just hope you will underst and or side when Hillary saves thousands of suffering people from being tortured and dismembered. When blm movement gets the respect it deserves. Just ask yourself "what am I doing to help the world?"
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>>682836726
your post doesn't disprove you are a cringing edgelord actually
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>>682836160
this
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>>682836805
Trump sounds like a retard too
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>>682836726
Well that's kind of the problem. The Islam religion needs to be reformed. Certain parts need to be removed in order for it to fit itself into western society a bit better. This is a problem with abrahamic religions and being the youngest of the three, Islam is the only one who has not morphed itself around the secular world in order to survive. And it needs to because human lives and peoples rights are more important then keeping tradition to a bronze age religion that has zero truth to it.
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>>682835935
1. we do have the right dumbass.
2. theres nothiing wrong with immigrating legally
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>>682828037
He wants to violate the constitution, he's sexist, he's said some of the most absurd things I have ever seen.
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>>682829548
As a Mexifag I can tell you Mexico is the mayor provider of illegal drugs in the U.S. and you van tell tjat because now that weed is more legal. Mexican cartels are planting amapola now.

So putting all ilegals in ome label os a smart move by Trump, just because you can attack 2 problems at once. illegal inmigration and drug smuggling.

We Mexicans should be worried because all those illegals gangsters will destroy Mexico
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>>682837014
I think you might be butthurt
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>>682829144
Trump doesn't know what global warming, I bet you don't too. Want to enlighten us?
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>>682836952
can fuck off from this website entirely
expand your vocabulary before you respond to me human waste
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>>682837142
maybe it is
the problem is that Trump is stereotyping an entire group of people as "rapists" or drug runners

people risk coming here illegally for all sorts of reasons, and Trump's just a fucking bigot trying to get people to hate
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>>682837125
>said some of the most absurd things I have ever seen
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>>682837232
I think you've totally spun out in this thread
none of your posts make any sense at all
and you want to profile all Muslims as terrorists
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>>682828037
Because you aren't old enough to vote.
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>>682837333
>still cringing
>still edgy

sure faggot
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you are going to vote for daddy, right anon?
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>>682837475
/Thread
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>>682828037
Why? I want you guys to vote for the Trump Dumpster. America is in desperate need of a reality check, and a lunatic like Trump in the whitehouse is just what the doctor ordered. I say go for it. Shit, I encourage you to violently attack anyone who is not voting for Trump. Get your friends, put on brown or black shirts and just start beating up anyone that even looks like they might not vote for Trump. Make this shit happen.
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>>682828037
We don't have time for debates.
BUILD THAT WALL
BUILD THAT WALL

haha... all these babies crying ITT, nice work anon, nice work.

They hate the wall b/c they know it will work. They hate trump because he's white. Racists.
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>>682837440
there are 1.6 billion muslims on this planet and some of them are my friends. they aren't all terrorists that is absurd.
>>682837475
but my first vote was for the cool black guy. i don't think i did so well
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>>682837348
>can fuck off from this website entirely
Well, the actual reason is that an increasing number of white americans don't want the USA to become less white.

Color of skin matters.
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>>682829548
You're ignoring patterns here retard. The United states have realised a pattern that 1 in 4 Muslims sometimes think suicide bombings are justified! He's not saying they are all terrorists but rather the country would be safer without the worry.
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>>682837706
cool story stormfag
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>>682828037
I'm not American and have no horse in this race, but it sure has been entertaining watch America shit itself on social media over the months, but serious question: how the fuck do you ban all Muslims from entering the country, do you just ask nicely at the border what their religion is? Seems to me that anyone with bad intentions might just, you know, lie?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10138441
http://www.strawpoll.me/10138441
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>>682837510
fuck off human reject
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>>682837599
beating up other peoples supporters is a job Sanders cucks
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>>682837721
>1 in 4 Muslims sometimes think suicide bombings are justified
source: myass.com
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He has no understanding of macroeconomics and wants to lower taxes and increase spending.
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>>682837800
>being this underage
>being this triggered
>being this mad
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>>682837775
Nah, not my affiliation.
Color of skin matters. It cannot be ignored entirely.
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>>682837686
>but my first vote was for the cool black guy. i don't think i did so well

If this is your gauge then you should do exactly the opposite of what you feel.
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>>682837782
Let me repeat myself: You're not taking anything these 2 candidates say at this stage of the race for real, do you?
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>>682837908
he turned 1 million dollars into 10 billion dollars. what have you done?
>>682837972
can you make sense please and thanks
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>>682837097
it will never be reformed until western world starts to punish those who practice or propagandize sharia law
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>>682837721
>1 in 4 think suicide bombings are justified.
What was the context of that question? What if they were thinking about kamikaze stuff? Like fighting against military targets or something?
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>>682837932
what else did you get indoctrinated with over at stormfag.com
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>>682837972
Why are Democrats so fixated on what's good for Muslims. I don't understand.
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>>682838113
>sharia law
faggot you don't even know what it is
someone told you to talk shit on it
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>>682837908
So, you're saying he's a Krugman-style Neo-Keynesian? Well, now I am starting to have doubts.
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>>682837921
>greentexts like a stupid faggot
do you have anything of value to post or are you going to just repeat what other faggots post here?
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>>682838198
yeah I can't understand why anyone would support human rights either
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>>682838113
Well, the western world for the most part already punishes the parts of Sharia that break secular law. As a whole, there are very few examples of this not being the case.
The religion needs to change from within, there is nothing outsiders can do to actually change it.
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>>682838239
it's a pretty conservative set of rules which ignores many rights ow women.. i don't like it very much
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>>682838290
shaddup edgy faggot
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>>682838076
Yeah politics doesn't work like that where I'm from, at least not to this extent. Seems to be 95% undermining and mud slinging, 5% actual policy. How the fuck do you know what you're voting for?
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>>682838082
>He just revived 1 mil
>he's worth 10 billion
Nice meme, and even if it were true it has no bearing on macroeconomics.
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>>682838198
Last i saw the more corrupt of the two parties is the one attempting to be more forceful with its will on Muslims.
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>>682838361
yeah but that's also a common ignorant talking point I hear

Islamophobes think muslims are going to come in and make everyone wear burkas

that's just retarded
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>>682838082
That wouldn't be hard at all when you already have that amount of money... Plus the whole company was valued at a lot before that. Also, look at all his fucking failed ideas.
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>>682838082
If that's your only metric for success then Trump is still a pretty meager candidate, given the potential pool. Shit, George Lucas and Bill Gates should be elected to God by your logic.
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>>682828037
Because he's a faggot who knows nothing about politicin' and you're actually a cuck if you fall for his shock tactics. Building a wall? ? Not even one, but two. He has said he wanted to build a wall to the north, as well. If he thinks Canada will pay for that, he's retarded. Source; I'm a Canadian.
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>>682838198
I'm not so concerned for muslims as much as upholding the Constitution. What he wants to do is unconstitutional in all regards.
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>>682838413
okay peasant
>>682838450
they did in quite successfully in europe. you should read about that
>>682838456
yeah you could totally do it to. if only you had that million lol
>>682838470
another chum
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dfoK31hM3w

jghfjgfh
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>>682838608
yeah I should read a bunch of hatefilled pages on an Islamophobic website, that'll educate me

zoz
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>>682838608
Where in Europe have they made.people wear burkas?
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>>682838450
1. Islamaphobia is a fake term created in an attempt to put criticism of a religion on par with race hatred.

2. Most people who are islamaphobes, in the sense the term is colned in, is simply false.

3.Islam, as with the other two abrahamic religions, spreads through force. While ther eis no need for hyperbole, you're an idiot if you dont see the problem there.
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>>682838450
>islamophobes
literally made up word just like racist
if you use those words to prove a point you're pretty much controlled by the government at this point
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>>682838608
>okay peasant
I'd like my fries supersized actually
get on it
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>>682838136
Nevertheless it's a form of extreme warfare
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>>682838826
>Islamaphobia is a fake term
no actually it's a very apt description people so afraid they would put temporary safety over liberties
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>>682838786
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/08/mohammed-really-is-the-single-most-popular-boys-name-in-england-and-wales/
>>682838820
see above
uk, france, germany, poland, haha you know
nothing kiddo
>>682838854
you are such a business success. how many towers have your name on it?
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>>682837852
Source; Gavin Mcinnes
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>Lowers taxes
>spends money on wall, bombing middle east and bailing out his friends.
>Can't pay for it
>debt goes up and up
>Forced to print money to pay for it.
>Hyperinflation
>All gov't programs go bunk
>pre wwII Germany economy
America is great again
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>>682838318
What is the connection between prioritizing whats good for muslims and human rights? Now I'm really confused. Here, maybe this will help me: What does the Quran teach about human rights concerning LGBT people?
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>>682838608
aww look at that, you're retarded.
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>>682838826
yeah I'm a total idiot if I don't jump on the human rights violation bandwagon against Muslims like you're doing
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>>682838836
Islamophobe detected
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>implying trump is not more liberal than clinton

he is a jew manipulating the sheeples into voting him
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>>682838988
so yemen and oman just need a good old dose of freedoms so they can understand your open border policy.. go liberate them.
>>682839060
k
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>>682839003
wtf does that have to do with whether we should ban all Muslim travel into the US?
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>>682839003
I'm going to tell your shift manager
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>>682839129
how about you islamophobe your ass with sandpaper
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>>682839222
i live near san bernadino buddy
that is the definition of "close to home"
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>>682838988
You can create all the definitions you want, it does not make it any less of a fake term with a definition that is intentionally dishonest.
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>>682839211
you practice guilt before innocence

you are un-American
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>>682839263
>faggot gets called out
>threatens violence

zoz
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>>682839335
it's a fake term because it accurately describes bigots like you
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>>682838836
Every word is made up, it's not language was a natural resource we mined from the ground, every word was created to express an idea. Saying it's made up is an excuse to sidestep and undermine the very real issue of bigotry.
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>>682838534
Please be more specific. What is unconstitutional about restricting entry of foreign aliens into the country? I'm not following.
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>>682839391
unamericans don't have american rights you liberal scum
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>>682839070
I mean..... yah.. if thats the case then thats the case.
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>>682839493
underrated post

I wish I could be as cool as you anon
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>>682839524
I'm starting to read your posts in a lizard creature's voice now
it's fun
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>>682830725
We wouldnt have a hole in security. All the socialist countries that aren't paying their part and are joking about how much we spend will.
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>>682838608
Trump got the loan of a million, that's true. But he inherited much more. Also his estimated net worth is at the absolute highest 4.5 billion. A lot, but not that much when you inherited a bunch of real estate from daddy right before a real estate boom.
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>>682839554
so people who support human rights are idiots?
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>>682837348


well yes, its not right to put all illegals in the same label, but that doesn't diminish that it's a smart move by Trump.

I don't see any problem of you want to look for better oportunities in another country. But I also think that it takes to be a coward to illegaly cross the border. because Mexicans and all beaners from Latin America don't want to fight to make their country a better place. To me they look like rats running away from a boat that it's about to sink
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>>682839631
or they'll just go bust and Europe gets attacked because the US wasn't the lead
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>>682837142
Lies this isn't how you really feel how did they buy you off? You poor confused person you need to realize what trump is doing to your people is wrong.
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>>682839003
No, I asked you where in Eurpoe have people been made to wear burkas, not whether every Muslim calls their son Mohammed. provide a source or admit you're making shit up.
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>>682839736
yeah well who the fuck are you to determine the reasons why someone went over the border?

See you're just profiling like Trump is.
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>>682839263
>>682839129
So... how about Islamonazi. is that a word? Or maybe judeo-islam values?
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>>682839880
you're really obsessed with Hitler aren't you
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>>682839492
Its a knowingly false equivalency. You should be ashamed that you're ignoring criticism of a horrific abrahamic religion all so you can cry bigotry when its not actually there.

One thing i started doing with stupid people liek yourself is replacing "islam" with "Christianity" and dumbfucks never seem to have a problem with it. Its becuase they are not creating a new set of rules when someone criticizes a religion that is roughly 80% the same as another, and is currently the only of the three abrahamic religions still in the dark ages. You can like this, you can not like this, i really dont give a shit. But you're not going to call people bigots for recognizing the reality of the situation.
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>>682839617
there is a reddit sub somewhere with your name on it
>>682839640
no his personal is 10 what the GOV said it was his company and assets are probably even more. he probably has even more money stashed somewhere offshores. you are a peasant who doesn't understand how money works. be poor. vote poor
>>682839779
there are areas of "safe zones" where so many camps of refugees have amassed that they have implicated their own sharia there within the camps faggot look it up
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>>682839975
False equivilency is actually your insistence that all Muslims are terrorists out to kill you.

And "phobia" more than accurately describes that kind of irrationality.
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>>682839926
Nah. I think these stupid words that people think means something are no replacement for critical thinking. I mean judeo-islamic islamonazi's are kinda some scary people? Does saying that make me a judeo-islamophobe or... gosh its so confusing.

Who AM AYEEEEEE?
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>>682840018
cool
are you trying to evade the spam filters here by chance?
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>>682829904
So how is that a bad thing? He wants to keep people coming from areas that are centers of terrorism for the time being until a proper vetting process is in place. Problem? Not rascist to not want events like the Paris and Brussels attacks happening in our country.
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>>682829926
You shit stain liberals are a bunch of stupid sheep. That big yellow star you call the sun is causing the warming. The libtards want you to believe they can solve the warming issue by sucking more money from your wallet. It won't work. Think outside the box. How many more green energy companies get a fat payout and then go belly up. You warming people are fucking morons
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>>682840141
so "critical thinking" is believing all Muslims are potential terrorists

k
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>>682840170
the only spam here is from bernie sucking idiots
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>>682840018
Okay, can I have a source for where the government said he's worth 10? Also net worth includes company and property, thought you'd like to know, since you know everything about money.
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>>682839507
It's restriction the religious group of muslims. First amendment is freedom of religion.
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>>682840172
yes I know this is /b/ and this is a /pol/ tard thread but
violating people's human rights is a bad thing
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>>682840018
Again no source provided. Stop watch Fox News and go back to fucking school, your dad should have done the world a favor and shot his wad onto your moms face like every other guy at the party.
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>>682840305
>spam
>arguments showing Trump is a clueless bigot

pick one
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>>682828037
Trump will be the next George Bush/Obama

Politics is a one way street.
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>>682834318
The only reason they can afford to be socialist is because we spend a majority of the money on NATO and it makes it easier for them so they don't have to put money into defenses.
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>>682840172
Makes based assumptions based on a person's skiname color, religion, or hertiage. Last time I checked the dictonary under racism thats racist.
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>>682839493
If every word expresses an idea, does it follow that every idea is valid? Then what about the meaning behind the word? I think the real issue is lack of critical thinking. Like Thomas Hobbes said "Words are wise men’s counters, they do but reckon by them; but they are the money of fools."
Think for yourself.
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>>682840448
>George Bush
>Obama

pick one
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>>682840501
What human rights are being violated? He said he is stopping immigration from terrorist centers. There is no violation of human rights.
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>>682840444
>wahh the someone says something i don't like he is totally racist/ misogynist/xenopohic/islamopbic
do you even know what a bigot is?
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>>682840528
and this justifies treating Muslims like 2nd class people?
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>>682840639
>bigot
more like you believe it's ok to be one
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>>682840551
nigger, they both steered the same train into a trainwreck, do you even know what the fuck you're talking about?
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>>682840637
I don't know man I'm just a troll
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>>682837284
Want to English us?
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>>682840368
Are there not Mosques in this country? And taxi drivers pulling over to pray? I see them, doesn't bother me. So what?
Where does this become an obligation to let all 1.6 Billion go on the haj through my country?
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>>682840501
No he said it's based on the fact that they come from centers of terrorism. Keep being a blind PC fighter who thinks they have moral high ground. Last time I checked he said it is because he wants to temporarily ban them until a proper vetting process is established. Not racist, its called playing it safe and keeping our citizens safe.
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>>682840814
yeah I do
I just found another idiot who thinks Democrats and Republicans are the Same Thing
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