>>682826801 Exactly the type of people who believe in what the Op's bait says can't grasp that simple concept. Instead they generalize a select group, ie Trump supporters and assume all of them are racist and agree with everything Trump says. Irony is a beautiful thing.
>>682827130 Needing to suppress opposing viewpoints is intolerance m8
Fun nigger facts no9876: blacks make up 8% of the US population but are responsible for 50% of US homicide Fun nigger facts no 9877: 90% of hate crimes are black on white violence Source: FBI uniform crime report
>>682826701 Funny how bernouts keep getting filmed physically attacking people with opposing viewpoints. Some people are just so intolerant.
Good thing they hate Hillary more than they hate Trump, since her crony politics bought this election in '08 and are staying home on election day. Democratic voter turnout is the lowest it's been in 20+ years while Republican turnout is breaking records.
>>682829174 >oppressing an oppressor is oppression so, if I oppress you and you somehow manage to make me stop oppressing you, then you're oppressing me from oppressing you and thus you've become an oppressor?
wow man, scary perspectives. That means we oppressed Hitler, when we stopped him from taking Europe and wiping out Jews.
>>682828879 Whatever your justification is, it isn't good enough. You have no right to demand that people conform to your system of morals, or that anyone who doesn't share your ethics shouldn't be permitted to speak. You SJWs are really no different from religious zealots, blinded by your own ideological fervor.
>Yfw Trump comes out in favor of legal weed because free market, fuck the Feds, and fuck dirty beaner cartels and their ditchweed America's gonna be made great again whether you like it or not hillbots. We didn't want you in '08, '12, and definitely not in '16. Enjoy those 2000 convictions of treason.
>>682830522 The wall ain't for the spics, it's for the drugs the spics mule over the border m8. And to keep "us factories" on the border from bussing illegals back and forth instead of hiring Americans for that made in America stamp.
>>682829955 >You have no right to demand that people conform to your system of morals who have I asked to do that? Strawman. >anyone who doesn't share your ethics shouldn't be permitted to speak who have I denied the right to speak? Strawman. >SJW talking point, means shit all.
>>682830875 If you don't believe "hate" speech should be permitted, then my argument isn't a strawman, which from your posts, is clearly implied. Don't restructure your argument so you can claim a strawman.
>>682831183 >deporting immigrant criminals that not only refuse to integrate but want you to change your society to be in line with the shithole they came from >a bad thing Go back to your sharia law zone Nigel, Hamid needs your son as a "dancing boy" again.
>>682831183 You realise that would have to pass parliament first, and UKIP would never win by enough of a landslide to deport all foreigners, we'd lose too many doctors and it would be gg, they aren't stupid.
>>682831867 Actually she is. I never even liked Hillary, but at least she's a politician with some forms of experience. If Trump gets in, he's either going to make the dumbest decisions of the 21st century or get pushed around by Congress, which is exactly what the current situation is with Obama. Either way, bad fucking idea.
>>682832016 I have the freedom to interpretate the song in anyway i want, i know that greenday is made up by stoners and liberals, but just looking at their song you can see that americans are stupid. You guys just follow the media and are alienated as fuck, trump is a great guy, and only the stupid mass cant see this. Yes, i am a greenday fan, fuck it, might sound contradictory, but just isnt
>>682831451 >If you don't believe "hate" speech should be permitted, then my argument isn't a strawman I never wrote anything about not permitting hate speech. Strawman, again. >Don't restructure your argument so you can claim a strawman. he wrote, after accusing me of writing shit I never wrote.
nice debate we're having, to bad I ain't part of it.
>>682832604 >you guys just follow the media and are alienated as fuck Hey, America's not the place where people are given warnings by the police to stop with their "hate speech" when they speak out against recent terror attacks. So don't talk like you're safe from the liberals either.
>>682830414 He's a bigot for banning ALL Muslim immigration, including refugees, which flies directly in the face of over 200 years of America's growth through the immigration of oppressed peoples elsewhere. Like the 'No Irish need apply' signs of the late 1800s, he chooses to judge based on a single common characteristic. That's textbook bigotry.
>>682832738 Actually the dutch and jewish merchants were the first to bring slaves to the British colonies.
In fact, the right to own slaves as property was argued successfully by an African slave owner after his property attempted to leave bondage, setting the precedent for slavery in the new England colonies, therefore subsequent colonial charters and eventually state constitutions after the revolution.
And the slaves themselves were bought from African coastal kingdoms who got their stock from opportunistic wars with inland kingdoms.
>whites >responsible for slavery It's 2016 guys, this meme needs to die.
But for anyone actually interested, few whites actually owned slaves. Many worked on plantations, many had small farms, but very few are directly to blame for slavery. At the height of slavery, only about 5% of whites owned slaves. So there's a high probability if you're white and reading this that you are not the direct descendent of someone who owned slaves.
Also it's worth noting that, of the 10 to 15 million Africans who were transplanted to the New World, no more than 6 percent—around 400,000—went to the Northern Hemisphere. Almost all of them went to South America, but you don't see your teachers giving Mexico and Peru a hard time, do you?
Throughout history, Arabs, Jews and, yes, black Africans owned slaves.
Fortunately, for blacks, slavery has turned out to be a blessing in disguise. Honestly, without slavery, their race would still be wearing loin cloths and bathing in a river and none of this tumblr race-baiting b.s. would ever come into play.
So, in reality, white slave owners in the U.S. have damned white people hundreds of times over that which they have done to blacks.
>>682833308 No it doesn't. In fact, setting immigration policies is a power granted the executive branch and we've barred immigration from certain geographic and national regions repeatedly.
Your grade school understanding of US history is wrong m8
>>682833085 Or you could read his stances clearly stated on his website. >renegotiate trade deals that have destroyed domestic manufacturing >tariffs being a bad thing >implyong removing corporate loopholes. Subsidies, and negative tax rates is a bad thing. >implying his healthcare solution doesn't fix the shitheap that is Obamacare MAGA
>>682833911 Assuming that you're an American with a dog in this fight, are you truly comfortable with the idea of electing an open bigot? Are you sure that he would confine his actions to 'blocking new immigration' and 'investigatign the muslims already here'?
Are you sure he won't use Cruz' idea of patrolling Muslim communities with hired security or the military on our native soil?
Are you sure he won't expand his bigotry to other groups?
You're a moron. Setting Immigration policy is within the executive. Banning entire populations was done exactly one time before, and the Government spent years paying reparations and passing laws to prevent a repeat off such a thing. Public response to the American internment camps for Germans, Italians, and Japanese was lukewarm at best during it, and outright loathing since then.
>>682834336 But that shouldn't be the definition of tolerance because all morality is inherently subjective. By adopting that definition, it provides justification for silencing dissenting voices; this is how religion became so oppressive. That was my initial point. So now that we've gone in a full circle, maybe this time you can actually make an argument.
>>682835215 Cruz' platform wasn't that different, and Trump needs to rapidly shore up his support with Cruz' supporter. Picking something which was popular from Cruz' platform, which fits into one of the areas which the Right thinks Trump is strong on, is not too hard to imagine happening. Trump already made clear he's open to 'policing' American Muslims.
And Clinton has yet to be indicted. If they haven't done so in three years, then who gives a shit? It isn't happening. If they indict too close to the election, it's going to look like cheap political theater, and not really affect the election.
>>682835125 now that you finally read and understood my position, which was never an argument, then maybe you can clarify how you expect anyone to operate within your premise that all morality is inherently subjective, and still present you with an argument. You have created a premise, that you can always refute no matter what the counter argument may be, seeing as your very premise lies outside objective reasoning and logic.
>>682834998 >muh Japanese internment camps Which is why we need to let in rapefugees why exactly?
>it wrong... But right... But Trump is like literally Hitler omigosh
>1941 >anyone in the US giving a flying fuck some zipperheads in California had to live in base housing and complained the ceiling fans didn't work and they put peaches near my rice REEEEEEEEEE as the Japs were launching balloon bombs at the continental US and committing the Bataan death march Take your revisionism back to /r/eddit m8, two bikes weren't enough. The US military was ready to execute operation downfall if the nips didn't unconditionally surrender, dropping A bombs as fast as we could crank em out on the way.
>>682835666 It's hard to be President from a Federal penitentiary m8 She's up for 2000 counts of treason, it takes a long time to catalog just how much shit she fucked up and how many dirty deals went down. The FBI has stated that it is an active, definitely criminal, investigation.
>ingratiate himself with ratfucker supporters >via the most retarded thing he ever said Makes perfect sense.
Just wait for Trumps stance on Saudi Arabia after that lawsuit shows that they financed 9/11. Rev up that war economy for the fight we should have won in 2003.
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