You got 10 seconds to explain why this wouldn't work.
>protip: if you can't and your literally retarded
what exactly are you hoping to achieve by making a bunch of balls go up and down?
Wut
Because you cant seal it, and it wouldnt produce enough energy to be feasible
>>682774816
infinite free energy
>>682774893
no it's not.
Cannot seal it, it would spin in the opposite direction while water tries to escape through the hole
>>682774710
Friction at seal
you have pull on both sides as the bubbles have the same volume and are in the same medium.
OP is a fucking retard
>>682774816
Dick Pulley?
>>682774893
As soon as this is attached to a generator, the additional forces needed to create power would prevent the bubbles from rising. This is also the case with all other perpetual motion devices.
>>682774866
Even if you made this tube really really long?
The longer the tube the stronger the pull because more air-filled bublles are in the water.
>>682774972
err, you'd need to have a perfect way to bubbles to travel through the medium barrier which isnt possible, in time you'd have leakage and by principle of communicating tubes eventually water in both tubes, thus a stall
wtf are the black balls?
>>682775053
Eccessive depth would crush the bubbles
>>682774710
>perfect or almost perfect
you have to push it very hard through the seal to get it to the other side... since there's water pressue
>>682774710
Because nothing is making bubbles, once the first ones are gone there is no chain
>>682775050
i know there are (currently lol) no perpetual motion devices but i can't pinpoint where this device voilates a law of physics
>>682774710
It wouldn't move you dumb fuck.
>>682775130
then make the bubbles stronger duh
>>682775106
wheels holding the chain maybe?
Eventually someone will get their dick stuck in it and will crash the system
something something volcano
>>682775242
Stronger materials increase weight which nullifies the depth change
>>682775106
Bigger than white balls.
>>682774710
as for all perpetual machines: conservation of energy. & always loss of energy
lol energy required would be pressure = rho*g*h, the pressure needed to force that bubble out will be more than it generates.
>protip: you need the formula pressure = force/area
>>682775050
but dude it would totally work if the laws of physics worked completely differently from the way they do in reality. Just handwave shit like that away and make some image macros showing your version of the machine and join the crackpot club.
>>682775176
you have to calculate the friction from the seal, the friction from the chain/balls crossing over the top of the device as well, plus water pressure pushing against the seal and balls as they pass through the seal. in the end it wouldn't move
>>682774710
No.
because it's nearly impossible to create a seal that a series of spherical objects can pass through without leaking.
>>682775299
but there would be a perfect depth / thickness of the balls / produced force ratio you could find - right?
>>682774710
The force required for a ball to go past the seal would be greater than the force provided by the buoyancy of the other balls.
>>682775176
I'm not saying it violates physics, I'm saying it can't be used to sustainably generate power.
>>682774710
bubbles dont go down, water would fill hole if there is no perfect sealing technique
Energy is always conserved.
Friction motherfucker.
>>682774710
Am I stupid, or would bubbles not connect together and stay like that?
>>682775546
fucking idiot even if you could get them chained up it won't ever supply more energy than it needs to push the bubbles back out
>>682775601
just slather everything with a shitload of grease.
>>682775601
OP didn't take physics friend.
Maybe engineering isn't for him.
>>682775581
But that would mean this is a theoretical model of a perpetual motion machine which really shouldn't exist.
>>682775669
are you fucking retarded? or do you just have down syndrome, or both? i'm not sure
>>682775634
They are balls filled with air or some shit
>>682775637
This
>>682775737
umm i dont know if you've ever used grease but it entirely removes friction. That's what it's for.
the white balls entering the water at the bottom require energy to displace enough water in order to enter it. This resistance counteracts the anticlockwise movement
>>682775176
dude there are at least 5 things in this drawing that violates basic physics and even a 5 year old would know it by a look
>>682775862
so you're saying that the force of the one ball displacing the water is greater then 6 gazillion balls that pull in the other direction together with each a little less force then the one that enters the water?
Doesn't sound logical to me m8.
>>682775728
This model would not work. OP just wanted to stir some shit.
>>682775857
holy grail of down syndrome shit.
This anon really thinks grease removes 100% of the friction.
yeah put grease on my generator -> spin -> never stop -> free energy.
Seriously you don't even need highschool physics to know this.
And stop, you're talking to a mechanical engineer
>>682776007
>implying you're not talking shit out of your ass like a stupid fag lol
>>682774710
Even if it all works, the buoyancy wouldn't be strong enough to carry the chain, it would just remain motionless considering how much friction is added taking the balls through the seal, even if it was some kind of super light gel.
>>682774710
That's the most autistic thing I've ever seen.
>>682775857
how retarded are you? How do you even have the capacity to type what the fuck
>>682775857
It only reduces the friction, you will always have some friction no matter what you do.
>>682776111
sorry you couldn't hack it as a physicist for your career. Do me a favor: go grease the shit out of a tile floor and try to walk on it. Can't do it because: no friction.
>>682775579
This. Hydrostatic pressure is a bitch.
>>682775857
This fucking pains me.
>>682775857
gr8 b8 m8
(or murricunt)
>>682776298
HOLY FUCK GUYS HE IS STILL GOING LOL
>>682776147
You must be new here then.
>>682776056
op here, i know there theoretically shouldn't be any perpetual motion machines, but i would like to understand why this wouldn't work.
I'm not even talking about friction for now - in a perfect universe without friction - Why doesn't this work?
>>682776382
just like you would be if you started sliding across a greased surface
>>682776298
fucking down syndrome retard a physicist doesn't even do shit like this. A mech Eng would know about energy transfer and fluid dynamics better
>>682776422
We don't live in that universe.
>>682776429
or entering a lubed up butthole
Instead of round balls use a long flexible square tube with intersections. This would make the sealing feasible.
Anyway, the energy required to displace the water at depth is equal to the potential energy dispersed pulling on the way upwards. Thus eventually the friction at the seal would be the main point of loss.
It would still be cool to build something like this and see how long one could make it spin.
>>682774710
Force needed to push bottom bubble through seal is same as and counters the force pushing bubbles up. No motion.
>>682776382
confirmed official downie of /b/
please take your medals and leave
>>682776492
I doubt it. engineers are just failed scientists.
>>682776429
And you would stop eventually because of friction you fucking moron. Grease reduces friction considerably but it's still there.
>>682776422
you can't have a world where there is no friction man.. with matter you have friction.
>>682776033
the balls are entering at the highest point of pressure, where it requires the most energy (at the bottom).
>>682776147
Wait until you see Minecraft.
>>682776298
This anon presents a good argument
>>682776382
This anon, realising he's lost, resorts to shouting.
Never change /b/
>>682776550
But the upwards force is proportional with depth - right?
Logically the entering bubble needs the most energy to displace the water, but if hundrets of balls combined each contributing a little less when getting closer to the surface pull in the other direction i'd say that'd be enought energy.
>>682776679
yeah ok. I think you'd be able to feel it if there was actually friction.
>>682776422
The force of water trying to push the bubbles out through the seal at the bottom is exactly the same as the force of water trying to push the bubbles out the top. Nothing moves.
>>682774710
upforce = downforce = no movement = OP = fag
>>682776604
lol troll and trying to trigger when you clearly don't know shit. I would being a physicist. Mech eng is completely different hence the reason why there are double majors of Mech eng and Physics.
Please proceed, i have 6 hours till work and I will fucking keyboard warrior the shit out of you
>>682776694
but it's only one ball whoes entering the water at the deepest spot is opposed by the combined force of many balls - you might just make the chain very long to increase this force.
>>682774710
Try this one OP, I think I may have found a way to harness infinite energy.
>>682776793
> But the upwards force is proportional with depth - right?
Right, and so is the force pushing on the seal.
>>682775857
you may have zero friction when you slide into your boyfriends anus, but the rest of us live in a thermodynamic universe
>>682774710
>protip: learn the difference between your and you're before you call others retarded you stupid fuck.
>>682774710
The same pressure pulling a bubble out of the water needs to be overcome to pull one in.
>>682774710
i don't know how dumb can peoplle get, but from the replies it's a lot.
the problem is in the "seal".
if the "bubbles" were ping pong balls or basket balls or wathever conected to a rope how could it be sealed without entering any water? even if you got a mechanism that would only let 1 drop in every hour after days it would be filled and the forces would be equal.
even if it was 100% perfect the balls are sofering from friction and after years and years they would degradate.
there is no eternal power source. the universe is going to die eventually and there is nothing you can do about it.
nice b8 tho, i r8 an 8 for making me reply
>>682776986
>Inb4 this is shooped
>>682776760
yeah look at your replies fucking fag
>>682775857
fucking lost
Go home and fuck your dog
explain why this wouldn't work.
>>682777108
why the fuck do you have two adblockers? faggot
>>682777013
I was going to think of an intelligent response but I see you've made a grammar mistake.
>>682776760
No it's not a good argument because it assumes a simplified understanding of friction. Hurr durr I can't walk on a surface, guess there's no friction whatsoever on this surface. There's significantly reduced friction but on a long enough plane if you slid across a perfectly greased floor you would eventually come to a stop due to friction. If there was truly zero friction you would continue sliding infinitely because nothing would slow you down.
>>682776871
you clearly didn't learn shit in school if you didn't even cover grease.
>>682774893
Frictions a bitch tho
>>682777121
Maglev...
>>682777121
If you spin the magnets on the train, it absolutely will work.
If you don't, it stops when you get the red part directly above the blue part because now the yellow arrow points straight down.
>>682777181
>>682777243
fuck ok you asked for this shit. prepare for 6 hours of me fucking you in the arse fucking cunt bag
>>682777121
Because opposite poles attract and it would be stuck on the ground
I think the energy you need to force the next bubble at the bottom into the water ist more than you get from the other bubbles pulling upwards
am I correct?
>>682774710
It has a net pressure of 0. It's already at an equilibrium
>>682777095
>missing the point that hard
If you ignore friction and the seal for a minute - you will realize that this is a perfectly fine physical problem.
We're not arguing if you could actually build this, the argument is about where this violates the laws of physics.
>noooo, you can't calculate the flight path of a thown stone if you don't take into account the friction of the air, it must be wroooong
>>682777352
this cringeworthy "look guyz im an engineer i can into physics" attitude in the face of very obvious b8 is why i can't stand engineers.
Physics ignored, don't care about airplane taking off on treadmill shit. Tidal energy as it already would cost less and produce vastly more power so there's no reason to listen. This is the difference between engineering and physics - engineers make money, physicists just end up in computer programming if they're lucky.
>>682777121
>>682777121
If those were electromagnets it would work well
The energy required to push a ball in to the water at depth is equal to the energy provided by the balls being lifted. The device would not move. Some others in this thread talk about friction but that's not really relevant. Most notional perpetual motion machines have no initial input power and thus never start moving.
>>682776911
>filename
kek'd and check'd
When bubbles try to get into water it will require energy. Because water tanks pressure is higher than airs
>>682777121
have you considered a career in infographics?
>>682777121
It'd stay in one place
>>682777455
yeah usually people can't stand others who are better than them. That's why I shit on people like you
>>682777314
yeah sorry i fixed the pic.....but isnt it free energy?
>>682777013
>newfag detected
>>682776798
You moron just because we can't feel it acting on our feet doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The effects of friction are so minor in your example that we wouldn't be able to sense it's effects by our perceptions alone but that doesn't mean it's not still there.
>>682777121
Ever seen a maglev train?
You spin the magnets on the train as it goes over the ones on the ground.
>>682777447
>If you ignore friction and the seal for a minute
> if my gradma had wheels whe would be a bike
that's just dumb
> you have 10 seconds to prove that the perfect machine is perfect if you ignore all it's flaws
really smart
>>682774710
Because a troll and not a good one.
This is just like the jet on a treadmill except it makes less sense.
>>682777590
i'm sure you won't believe me but you're "shitting" on an astrophysicist 4 years into my first postdoc. I know firsthand how shitty at physics engineers are. Most of them know about how grease works though, so you've got some more learning to do.
>>682777592
Nope. Now the blue magnets on the train get right between the other blue magnets, and then it doesn't move since the arrows in front and arrows in back are pushing opposite ways.
If you want to move the train, you have to pay energy to spin the magnets on the train.
>>682777447
Because the pressure of getting bubbles out of the water is the same amount that has to be overcome to pull them into the water. It's already at equlibrium
SEVENS
>>682777726
whe = she
>>682777709
troll physic bread
>>682774710
Assuming that it is grabbing air from outside of water and delivering it to the water. I would say that it isn't going to work because water isn't going to dam itself up to make a crevice for that device.
It's hard for me to say without knowing what that is though.
>>682777455
The only thing cringe worthy is when you will be willing to working with engineers who will step on your face in the industry
>>682777592
Nope, this induces magnetic locking without an outside force. If an outside force was used the energy is no longer free.
Not to mention the magnetic field strength would decay.
>>682774710
friction across the seal.
>>682777013
where's the semi-colon after retarded?
>>682775857
>>682777752
thank you
>>682777841
thank you as well
>>682777827
They could put all sorts of valves and switches inside the ball to get it too release the air at the correct time.
I do not see any way to tell what that actually is
>>682774710
This is the most retarded thing I've ever seen.
Kill yourself OP
>>682774710
Water would get in due to the apex and depressions of the sphere shaped balls, when the ball passes the seal and there is an opening, water would get in making it useless since a perfect seal would be impossible
>>682777592
The power required to generate a magnetic field powerful enough to move a train at any sort of appreciable speed is why that's not free power. Magnets naturally strong enough (are pretty rare if they even exist) to do so would represent a huge cost by itself and would have better uses elsewhere.
>>682775299
Doesn't matter how much the bubble itself weighs, the bubbles on the chains will always be in force equilibrium with each other since they are connected and symmetrical around the axies.
>>682775857
Is this bait
Please tell me this is bait
>>682778070
what if you greased the magnets?
>>682777458
That wouldn't work. There wouldn't be enough water pressure to move the turbine fast enough to generate a lot of electricity. That might be able to power a bedroom unless storm is happening.
>>682778142
>>682777121
>>682777592
THE RULES OF MAGNETS ARE:
1) Every line shall begin on one pole and end on an opposite pole.
2) The lines don't have to end on the same magnet.
3) The lines cannot break or cross.
4) Stronger magnets have more lines.
5) Longer lines are weaker.
>>682775668>>682776309
>>682776666
>>682776947
could you fucking not?
>>682778142
it would take a crane to get it out
>>682777121
Sweet fucking jesus... People are extremely retarded. Opposites attract you fucking retard. It wouldn't move
>>682774710
Don't listen to the faggots OP, they all work for big oil. It is courageous people like you who will change the world.
>>682778261
easy look the next pic.....>>682777592
Here's an idea that will actually work:
>build a really long, durable wire
>tie one end to a missile
>plug the other end into the power distribution center
>fire missile at sun
>siphon near infinite amounts of energy from the sun
repeat for every power plant and we never have to generate electricity again, at least not for the next few billion years
>>682778142
lol fuck this guy again
Would it be possible to create a machine that will need very little additional energy to make it move constantly, could the energy then generated be bigger than the amount of energy used to make a machine move?
>>682778403
the Earth spins
>>682777447
>guys, if we ignore the laws of physics, where does this violate the laws of physics?
>>682778576
You're a retard.
>>682778576
> Would it be possible to create a machine that will need very little additional energy to make it move constantly,
Yes. If you constantly supply small amounts of energy to an efficient system, it will move constantly.
> could the energy then generated be bigger than the amount of energy used to make a machine move?
No. It can't even be equal to that energy. You have to lose some.
>>682778403
brilliant idea. I'm going to make a rocket that can harvests the suns power, and attach it with a 93 million mile long power cord. Let's just ignore that there's no way to "plug" into the sun or anything. Or the fact that the longer distance that energy travels the less energy there is.
>>682778576
if that would be possible, you wont have any energy problem.....just think a second: one little machine that produce more than the amount of energy it needs can be used to move another similar machine and so on..... more or less infinite energy
>>682778403
The more feasible way of siphoning power from the sun is the creation of a dyson web/net.
The main issues with this are:
>How do we make solar sails light enough to maintain geosynchronous orbit around the sun (Powered by only the suns energy) using current materials
>How do we get the energy back to us (Photon beaming is not effective yet)
If we could solve those issues we wouldn't have an issue with energy any more.
>>682778576
>>682774710
Friction fuckhead
I invite you to read the 2nd law of thermodynamics
>>682778687
>implying physical equations under the assumption of a perfect environment are wrong and can't be discussed
>>682778766
use a nuke then, blow a hole in the sun we can plug into.
>>682778847
This would actually work if you could unplug it from the wall, and into itself faster than the speed of light (the speed at which electricity travels). If this could be done, the electricity would be trapped in the strip indefinitely.
>>682778766
as for the less energy problem...more wires. This is simple.
>>682779195
more grease*
>>682778789
>How do we make solar sails light enough to maintain geosynchronous orbit around the sun (Powered by only the suns energy) using current materials
You put them in orbit, so the only force needed by the sail is for stationkeeping.
> How do we get the energy back to us (Photon beaming is not effective yet)
You don't. You build a space station and live there and use the power. Solar collector drones dive to the sun, charge up, come back, dock, dump the energy, and go back down. Earth can fuck off and die in a nuclear muslim fire.
>>682779195
more wires would mean that it would have to travel a longer distance.
>>682775857
what the fucking fuck
>>682779335
greasing the wires was implied. The energy would get stuck inside an ungreased wire because of friction.
You do bring up a good point though that with the insides greased there would be nothing to make the energy dissipate, so that solves that problem entirely. We're now back to a one wire (greased inside AND outside) model, making it even more simple.
>>682777121
The energy to put the magnet in this position is greater than the work you'll get out of the system's movement.
>>682774710
Let's say the bottom seal works and it's free of any friction, the energy the bottom bubble employs to push the water out of the way would contrast the energy the other bubbles require to be pushed up.
>>682779686
Correct, and my gut tells me that 6 gorillion balls pulling upwards produce more power then the one ball that is pushed into the water.
>>682779173
It still wouldn't work because the electricity would dissipate
>>682779419
>You put them in orbit, so the only force needed by the sail is for stationkeeping.
Which requires energy proportional to the weight of the panels (As that will determine orbit decay). Our current materials are too heavy for the energy gained from solar power to be used to correct orbits while also providing enough for ourselves.
>You don't. You build a space station and live there and use the power. Solar collector drones dive to the sun, charge up, come back, dock, dump the energy, and go back down. Earth can fuck off and die in a nuclear muslim fire.
That's about as far away from feasible as beaming energy is right now.
>>682779822
Your gut is wrong.
>>682774710
This concept is stupid 1) You are referring to bubbles holding together in a chain- Impossible
2) You are referring to a ball filled with air and allowing buoyancy to move the chain along.
so here is the issue with both.
1) its fucking stupid, you're stupid- Stupid idea.
2) Balls with air would have to be the correct volume to allow a correct buoyancy to create force and create motion, You would have drag at your "perfect or non perfect seal). To much for a perfect seat while letting water through while balls are positioned anywhere but their largest diameter so it would fill up and you would have two opposing forces. Even if that was not the issue you have a lack of gravity where the cog turn out of the water and into the cavity.
>>682779173
Electricity doesn't move at the speed of light you dipshit
>>682780184
it can in a properly greased wire.
>>682779173
Then why not just charge it up with this (pic related), after you plug it into itself?
>kek
>>682780184
Light moves at the speed of electricity though?
>>682780243
>/thread
>>682780008
but why?
I know there is less upwards pull the more close you get to the surface, but as many balls combine their upwards-pull, the energy of the upwards pull is proportional to the integral of bubbles and their respective hight, while the force needed to put that one bubble in the water just rises proportionally due to higher density.
>>682774710
Why the fuck would you want to seal it?
>>682779173
>the things that I come up with while I'm high.
>>682779969
> Our current materials are too heavy for the energy gained from solar power to be used to correct orbits
Solar sails don't use the photovoltaic effect to power themselves, they use the direct force of solar wind. It is literally a sail which catches a stream of moving massed particles to be affected by. You can make the pressure exerted arbitrarily strong by choosing a sufficiently low orbit around the sun, up until the point you burn up. An active solar sail's orbit DOESN'T decay, because it IS A PROPULSION SYSTEM.
> That's about as far away from feasible as beaming energy is right now.
You could beam it back via angry laser or adjustable parabolic dish to reflect light onto a tank of water. But this will contribute to climate change from the increased heat. The difficulties of evading and entering a gravity well can pretty much only be dealt with by telling the planet to fuck off and not looking back.
>>682775202
i agree
>>682780420
The force of water pushing back on the seal also grows with depth.
>>682774710
Yeah, that's right up there with a perpetual motion machine.
>>682775535
i beg to differ, just use someones asshole
>>682780566
let me try like this
>>682780702
>implying that a person who sticks beads up their ass has a "tight seal"
>>682775857
fucking lost
Go home and fuck your dog
the autism is real in this one
I think you need to rethink your chain. The sphere shape world be too difficult to seal.
So maybe instead of balls chained together, just one long air tube. But the tube would be compartmentalised with hundreds of air pockets. That could pass through a seal better then spheres.
>>682778151
Uh, it already works. It's a real technology dipshit. That particular one is called CETO and is from Denmark, here is a functional prototype.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_power
Hell you can direct waves into a channel and use the change in air pressure to run a Wells turbine, there's a 250 MW version online right now in Scotland. Look if the gravity between Enceladus and Saturn can heat Enceladus to the point of having geysers...there's a shitload of energy there just waiting to be taken. We don't need a perpetual motion machine, we already live on one.
>>682781250
/op
thought of that aswell, but the balls make it easier to imagine the forces that are applied there
>>682780837
Nope. More like this.
>>682777095
>sofering
>degradate
Just scoop up the spoonful of water every other gay in exchange for the infinite free energy you illiterate fuck. OR find an actual flaw.
>>682781384
I think this is the mistake i made when i came up with this.
Thanks m8,
>>682781384
This.
F=water density*g*displaced volume
>>682782246
Yes, but this is mostly a displacement problem.
The water's weight wants to remove what is displacing it (1 bubble), but in order to do so, it must bring in 1 bubble, which has equal displacement. 2 equals cancel each other out, and nothing happens.
>>682781441
>every other gay
>>682777352
cringe 1
>I will fucking keyboard warrior the shit out of you
cringe 2
>fuck ok you asked for this shit. prepare for 6 hours of me fucking you in the arse fucking cunt bag
>>682777709
This will work BUT you appear to have attached the cat/butter assembly to a jet engine and NOT a generator
>>682777590
cringe 3
>yeah usually people can't stand others who are better than them. That's why I shit on people like you
>>682774710
When a bubble moves in the seal, it needs to displace enough water to make room for itself. This means displacing the entire column of water above it.
In contrast, when a bubble that is already in the water moves up, it's only displacing the water from immediately above it to immediately below it.
Therefore, as the height of the column of immersed bubbles grows, the force needed for a single bubble to enter the seal also grows, but the force generated by any individual bubble remains constant.
Thus, the forces cancel out.
>>682775164
This.
The water pressure is going to negate any lift you get from the bubbles. The deeper you go to get more lift the more water pressure fighting against you at the seal
>>682774710
I don't think anyone has pointed out they are fucking "bubbles filled with air". you cant move fucking bubbles like a chain and not expect them to pop.
>>682783847
NB: Can't believe none of you faggots could figure this out. It's not about "friction" you dumbfucks, it's about the displacement of water. Displacement of water around bubbles is what causes buoyancy, and it's the displacement of whole column of water that makes it difficult for bubbles to enter the seal.
Looks like Wilma's necklace
Engineer fag here. You dun goofed, because you ignored the second law.
Second Law of Thermodynamics: In any cyclic process the entropy will either increase or remain the same. Entropy: a state variable whose change is defined for a reversible process at T where Q is the heat absorbed. Entropy: a measure of the amount of energy which is unavailable to do work.
>>682774710
FUCK YOURSELF YOU LITTLE DIPSHIT CUNT ASS MOTHERFUCKER, HOW ABOUT YOUR STUFF YOUR ASSHOLE WITH THAT SHIT HOMEWORK OF YOURS AND COME BACK TO THIS PLACE WHEN YOU'RE OLD ENOUGH!
>>682774710
Friction mostly. The balls likely have enough displacement to be able to counter the other side's weight and then some, or can be modified in size to do so, but there's going to be friction every step of the way. Rotating on the pulleys, the water itself, the air, the seal(s).
Not to mention that the potential energy for each ball will dwindle as it reaches the surface, so you're looking at overcoming a lot of bullshit and at the end of the day you're not going to be able to beat conservation of energy without drawing something from somewhere else.
>>682775535
>>682780702
Asshole approach is the correct answer in theory, but the only way to keep the seal is going to be added pressure on the balls, or a fluctuating pressure controlled by something that requires power to run.
The normal mechanical asshole (stretchy yet taut) will increase friction immensely, slowing down any potential movement. The electrical asshole (loose yet no anal leakage) will have to draw its power from whatever the machine can generate.
>>682774710
Of you use sum kind of gas, like nerve gas it would work
>>682774710
>what is friction
>>682776905
>you might just make the chain very long to increase this force
By making the chain longer, the point of insertion also moves deeper, thus increasing the pressure one needs to overcome.
>>682774816
Masturbation machine
