So, more than likely it'll be Hillary v. Trump for President.
If America has allowed Trump to get this far, I think in the end America will still end up choosing Trump over Hillary just because they'd rather see a man run the country rather than a woman.
Not a lot of people like trump. He has his supporters, but most of the country has an unfavorable opinion of him.
The thing is, a lot more people absolutely hate hillary than like trump.
Hillary isn't actually a person but a marionette controlled by Wall Street.
Trump has balls and you atleast know he's a straight shooter. We need a president like him, not another Obama clone.
Many good presidents were "extreme". Washington, Lincoln, JFK, Teddy Roosevelt, they all were very strong minded. It's nothing new to politics, it simply seperates the sheep leaders from the shephard leaders.
Well, Trump's language is certainly extreme. Look what he says on Twitter, the man just does not give a shit about political correctness. This is one of the reasons why I respect him alot more than the feminist idiots- Hillary and her supporters.
How about Muslim citizen registry? What's next, a little yellow star/crescent patch to be sewn into clothing, and must be visible at all times? Why not just put them all in internment camps?
The securing of the border isn't but his statements and way of thinking is. I don't know, I just feel there's too much hate in what he wants to do. Like the hate over comes to reasoning behind his plans.
Yeah, like there's going to be thoughtful discussion on /b/. I'd be surprised if half the people here could spell Trump's full name, or if 10% of the posters here ever voted in their lives.
Seap their gender and hillary is now a man who still cant use 2 email accounts. Trump becomes the female trump who says the same things but with a female voice. No change. They would still rather vote for the american crazy then someone whos husband was in office. Or would bill be hillarys wife? Fuck you op. Now im lost.
you're right on the money.
Hillary is running just to satisfy her over-inflated ego; she just wants bragging rights to be able to say "i was the first female president".
in other words, Hillary is Peggy Hill.
You don't know what Islam is. Look up what it actually means to be a Muslim. It's LITERALLY claiming to support the revocation of basic human rights from everyone you can manage to subjugate.
Yeah definitely doesn't have to do with her constant flip flopping to appeal to her audience
Her blatant selling out to big companies
Scandals (read benghazi and opsec breach with emails)
And her pathetic, "I have a vagina, that's good, vote me for"
We ignored that, we just don't want a female president, that's it
Look, nobody is denying the fact that a vast majority of extremist violent behavior comes from the Islam faith. It is another thing entirely to deny first amendment rights to an entire group of people. This country was based upon religious freedom, it would be a shame to see those freedoms crumble just because you're scared.
Muslim =/= black. Black people can be respectable. Islam is cruel, violent, and invasive to its core. It's not a race. It's a conscious decision.
The political threads just keep coming...
What happened did Reddit and Tumblr go offline? Or is everyone just trying to impress the world with their heavily researched and wealth of factual political knowledge?
>all those (You)'s
Wow you guys are on some Nazi shit. People got all butthurt when we did that to the Japanese; if we did it again people would chimp the fuck out.
As for Europe, they let far too many in at once, so they clump together in camps raping and pillaging as they please. American Muslims are much more integrated; there are no groups abdicating for Sharia zones in the US unlike many other countries.
He is a bigot. He has prejudices. And even if he doesn't fervently personally act upon his assumed biases, he's projected them enough to the point that those that DO have outward bigotry have sided with him. Build a wall, you get the Mexican haters. Ban all Muslims, you get the Islamophobes.
That's all well and good for the citizens, but he is pushing to limit mass migration of more of these people, and as non citizens, they are not bound by, or protected by the bill of rights or the rest of the constitution, I for one give zero fucks about the rights of non citizens, if they want to protest for change and be activists, they should do it within their own countries, or die, either way, I don't give one single fuck about them.
It's really nothing to do with him being a man. Trump is entertaining, the presidency has been a popularity content for years now (think of how much more work goes into being as pandering as possible, down to the perfect calculated amount of shine on your shoes). American's are dumb as bricks (on average) and love a good show, therefore Trump is doing insanely well and will undoubtedly win the presidency. I honestly think the country deserves what it will get. There has been so much evidence that this will go badly and the country as a whole ignored it and cheered him on as he made funny faces and said silly things. I wish you the best of luck, United States, please don't blow us up, I actually enjoy living on this planet.
Japanese =/= Muslim, you fucking retard. Following Islam is a conscious decision.
The Establishment clause in the First Amendment prohibits the government from establishing a state religion and prevents it from the free exercise of religion. Putting a temporary halt to Muslim immigrants/refugees does neither
LET THE BATTLE BEGIN!
You realize that Obama put in rigorous screening policies for refugees right? You realize most of them are on a 2 year waiting list. What more would you have us do? America has always been a beacon for dejected souls. I don't care if your black heart wishes to see humanity suffer, your country disagrees with you.
They continue living here
Show me where he's said we're going to round them up and do something to them
Read shit for your fucking self for once faggot
He's proposing we stop taking any new Muslims in until we get shit under wraps and deal with the extremists
the black population is only about 12%. even if all of them were registered voters and all voted for hillary, that wouldn't mean much in the general election if trump got all the white vote.
I was talking about the fact that Trump wants to make a registry of current Muslim citizens, infringing their right to privacy. You could also argue that this act would infringe upon religious freedoms as well.
Statistically women tend to be democratic and they slightly out number men. They base their vote off of emotion rather than rationality, therefor Hillary will win due to trump being a "Racist, sexist, bigot!".
Hillary has proved herself a lying bitch and lacks much leadership skills. Trump will run his mouth off at the wrong people and erode our alliances as well as start trade wars which will send the cost of a gallon of milk to 10 fucking dollars. As well as trying to "build a wall" that will cost a fuckton of money and resources and be on some of the most unstable terrain of the United States to build on. Decide whoch way to bend over and spread because both of them will fuck us in the ass.
>I can certainly agree that Hillary is shit for leadership,
Clinton knows Congress and knows how to make deals there
Trump isn't going to just cowboy his way into getting shit done, sorry
Even if Trump has the popular vote, Hillary has the super-delegates (cheating-delegates), and the establishment wins again. Remember Gore v. Bush?
It's a total closed shop. You have one thing right, though. There is a show going on- in this case, nearly everyone involved on every side is a rube.
Trump will never get a majority woman vote. In fact, over 80% of US women have unfavorable views of Trump. Combine that with the Latino vote going almost exclusively against Trump, and one can plainly see he has no chance at all.
YES! Because what this essentially means, in this day and age, because it would totally happen with no sort of resistance, is that we are going to start rounding up all Muslims and executing them!
>Even if Trump has the popular vote, Hillary has the super-delegates (cheating-delegates), and the establishment wins again. Remember Gore v. Bush?
not that anon but had Gore won his own home state of Tennessee, what happened in Florida wouldn't have meant shit
Oh definitely, I definitely don't like either of them, it blows my mind how it actually ended up like this. It's just nuts, like a dream. An actual dream where impossible things happen.
>just because they'd rather see a man run the country rather than a woman.
there are a whole lot more reasons than just she is a woman:
Cars are registered too, dipshit. Don't hear anybody complaining about that. Why do you want unregistered guns anyway? Wouldn't that make it easier for Islamic terrorists to get them?
To be fair I don't support neither.
As to your statement, I feel like that's what a lot of people don't realize about Hillary. They think that because she's a CLinton, things will be fine and dandy, but she's also Hillary.
cool so lets register muslims thanks. oh whats that, the first AND second amendment are protected?
>Wouldn't that make it easier for Islamic terrorists to get them?
Who fucking cares. There is already more guns than people in America.
they make up 17% of the population.
again assuming they are all registered voters, add them with the blacks and that's still only 29% of the votes in the general election if they all voted for hillary (which is unlikely).
Cable television where you watch the news? I find it hard to believe that there were a bunch of latinos that went on TV to say "We and all the other latinos we know are voting for Trump" if anything, it's likely it would be a paid for, hand picked group of people on the street that might be voting, where most of the other people asked said no.
Show me the ammendment protecting car ownership and I'll concede
My version of the Constitution is missing that one
Also no since they won't come in when Trump doesn't let them in
From the start, I've been telling people Trump is the president this country deserves.
Besides, if this realty developer-cum-reality star is what it takes to push the country to a tipping point, I welcome it. If you hate the system, why not endorse the guy who will be the biggest cog in the machine? Maybe it will be like the purge. Neato.
That's where you're wrong though.
However, yes it is bad, yes it is cancer, yes it must be eradicated.
Republican party is split, so Hillary wins.
Bernie supporters may be tempted to vote Trump or 3rd party to fight the system, but will ultimately tap out, bend over and take in more of the same. When Hillary wins, those same Bernie supporters who initially said "Bernie or Bust" will start to pat themselves on the back for electing such a progressive female feminist president.
It means that she has her own views that may or may not be in line with Clinton's past presidential era.
How would she be better than Bill? (Actually curious, not shitting on your statement)
Only reason she isn't in prison is because of her might. I am a lowly level government peon employee and even I know what she did with her email is federal pound me in the ass prison time.
Yeah the ilegal ones
People like me that put in work to get here legally are voting for Trump and I'm not alone in this
Literally every legal spic at my job is voting for Trump because we're fed up with pancho y jose crossing illegally fucking it up for us
Those Hispanic protestor you see on tv are predominantly illegal aliens
Who spoiler alert, can't vote
actually you're lying, as the Senate acquitted Clinton and being investigated by the FBI also is not proof of any criminal wrongdoing
you're just another hivemind faggot with an anti-Clinton agenda
and this is a cringe thread
>Trump will start WWIII
No, the president has no power to just start a war. That takes an act of congress.
>Trump hates Mexicans and wants to deport thm all
No, Trump wants to deport illegals, and keep them OUT.
>Trump wants to treat Muslims like Hitler treated the Jews
No, Trump wants to stop Muslims from coming in, until we, as a country, can figure out a way to properly vet these animals.
Trump IS the president we need. He doesn't give a fuck about political correctness, and he'll bring that "swinging dick" swagger back to the US of A.
Because Bill Clinton was a total waffler who let the Republicans pretty much every thing up after they took power in 1994.
I don't think Hillary would allow it. She already hates them and makes no bones about it. Never heard Bill even go there.
Bill was impeached dipshit. Doesn't mean he wasn't acquitted
>i can't into words
Hillary is a criminal. Open your fucking eyes. You don't steal and copy top secret/classified information. Everyone knows this but those with a pro-clinton agenda.
Again I'll ask what Trump will do about the Muslims already living here as citizens.
So you're against vehicle registration too? My copy of the Constitution is missing the part about paved roads and interstates or public schooling but God damn I'm glad we have them.
The Constitution is a guideline. Forcing vehicle owners to register their cars was a democratically reached decision, and it violates no part of the Constitution.
Registering a person based solely on their faith certainly infringes upon their ability to freely practice said faith.
>Who fucking cares. There is already more guns than people in America.
it's not unreasonable to own more than one. A large portion of people do not own guns either. Most are produced to be exported to foreign militaries or are produced for our own.
I am one of them, this Cruz voter is now a Johnson supporter. I will not vote for neither Drumpf nor Hildabeest... and dont make me laugh about suggesting Bernie.
It's a religion. Subscribing to a religion is a choice.
In America, anyway. It isn't much of a choice when your state is under Islamic rule.
I have no problem with a woman being president. I have a problem with that particular woman being president.
Trump is going to be a lame duck going in. Neither party are happy with the prospect of him being elected. He's barging into their territory and they do not fucking like that one bit. Congress is not going to let him get shit accomplished through legislation, and the Supreme Court is going to hinder him at every given opportunity when he tries to exercise his executive powers. There's very little real harm he could cause, barring some major catastrophe where congress is forced to work with him. Hilary on the other hand already had considerable power, and she will be able to push her shitty agenda through at least sometimes. She's by far the biggest threat to the US.
Hillary is going to get fucked for her emails
She's going to testify for a transcribed hearing. She's dead
not too worried. I think trump could handle it because he knows how to run shit..... You people think that just because he is a cowboy he will just do whatever he wants. Thats dumb.... He will run the company like any good business. Put the correct people in place to start a well oiled machine. Id vote for him over hillary any day of the week because he has an endgame.... hillary seems to just want to invest in herself. I think its time we get a guy who doesnt agree with democrats and he doesnt even agree with the majority of republicans. This country needs to change. anyone who still believes we should live like a melting pot should move along and make way for the changes that are about to come.
I was commenting on your stupid ass idea about registering gun owners you faggot cuck
The same way you're pitching a fit about sand niggers being forced to be registered you should also get your panties all wet when faggots talk about registering gun owners
But you won't
You have an agenda
I don't care, really. Clinton has the experience of being in a high-profile Senate seat and becoming familiar with the members of Congress on a first-name basis.
Trump not so much.
is this hard to understand? Hardline christian pilgrims wanted more religious intolerance in england, stricter religious laws (they didnt like being told "no" by the state) so they were told to get the fuck on, so they did and founded america, a place where the state could have no say in religious practice and they were free to have all the salem witch trials they wanted
Bill Clinton, the 42nd President of the United States, was impeached by the House of Representatives on two charges, one of perjury and one of obstruction of justice, on December 19, 1998.
He was impeached shithead and acquitted.
yeah but the Republicans actually won in 1994 because they convinced Americans that Clinton wasn't sticking to his own liberal convictions.
Which is fucking brilliantly evil. Fucking Gingrich, man.
>mfw there's already a wall
I think what Trump is saying is he's going to ensure that illegals don't just climb over the wall, or float across the Rio Grande on their backs. (Yes, that's where "wetbacks" comes from children)
I'm against vehicle registration. Also “Democratic” in its original meaning [refers to] unlimited majority rule . . . a social system in which one’s work, one’s property, one’s mind, and one’s life are at the mercy of any gang that may muster the vote of a majority at any moment for any purpose.
Impeach: to accuse (a public official) before an appropriate tribunal of misconduct in office.
Bill Clinton, Democrat, was impeached on December 19, 1998, by the House of Representatives on articles charging perjury (specifically, lying to a federal grand jury) by a 228–206 vote, and obstruction of justice by a 221–212 vote. The House rejected other articles: One was a count of perjury in a civil deposition in Paula Jones' sexual harassment lawsuit against Clinton (by a 205–229 vote). The second article was one that accused Clinton of abuse of power by a 148–285 vote. President Clinton was acquitted by the Senate; the vote to remove him from office fell short of the necessary ⅔, voting 45-55 to remove him on obstruction of justice and 50-50 on perjury.
Pretty much any promise being made by a candidate right now may as well be a lie.
Just like peace-loving Bernie isn't going to get you free college (not at Yale, anyway), and would be in charge of this country's next war if he won. It's simply not up to the President. He's a mantle piece.
LBJ cowboyed his way through congress. He is pretty similar to Trump all things considered. And if LBJ didn't botch the Vietnam War he would have been remembered as a great president.
>the vote to remove him from office fell short of the necessary ⅔, voting 45-55 to remove him on obstruction of justice and 50-50 on perjury.
which effectively negates any intended outcome the Republicans were pushing for
ron paul master race
but as an ancap you will never be able to vote in your interest because the state's primary goal is always to expand itself, no state approved party is going to be able to offer this
america is as powerful as it is fragile, and for that reason i know that trump is going to win. the psychology of america as a specifically 300 year old entity is taken for granted. a lot of trump supporters are lying low in case you faggots didn't know. why the fuck would anyone really rationally vote against the jetsons? what's the better alternative, i'm really interested to know
goddam right I'm defending Clinton
Trump is a bigot, his tax proposal is shit, and I don't want a "businessman" with 5 bankruptcies and a host of other failed ventures running this country
I don't think he'll be as good at getting swing votes as Hillary is. She's gonna be the first Female president. I don't really know what else a presidency from her will mean. What do any of them mean really?
Why would you be against vehicle registration, but for Muslim registration? Why do you want dangerously uninfringed rights for some, but heavy scrutiny for others?
>Democracy is when a bunch of things strongarm everybody else into submission
Fuck you, anarchist faggot. If you want to see what a lack of Central government does to a population, why don't you move to Somalia?
maybe how govt works currently hasnt been working too well lately..... how many other countries have a govt that runs just like us? you implying that change wouldnt work? i agree with you on education.
LBJ was probably the most experienced and knowledgable politico in the Beltway--period.
Trump is a loud-mouthed inarticulate blowhard and looks up meekly to the shadow of LBJ's legacy
not even close
the revolution and the colony of america are different things. the colony of america was free from most of the state busybodying with regards to their religious practices
just because a few guys signed a bit of paper a few years later doesn't change the situation