Well Kasich and Cruz dropped out
>Trump is confirmed new overlord
Sanders doesn't stand a chance against Clinton now, and even if by some miracle he does get the nomination, Trump would crush him. And theres no way democrats would unite and vote Clinton many would rather just not vote for that fucking snake.
What are your thoughts /b/?
There is absolutely ZERO argument against Sanders.
IF someone attempts to make one, it's usually filled with either: misinformation/lies
Hillary is a fucking cock sleeve for anyone who will pay enough for her to achieve her personal goals.
Trump is a psycho with absolutely no policy nor any legitimate intelligence
>Hurr he's a businessman
Yeah, so was 50 cent. It means nothing.
If he indeed goes up against HIllary, I hope he wins.
Maybe after the worst decision this country has ever made, we will finally wake up and actually have more than 40% of our population voting or even caring about elections.
Just pisses me off seeing people pass up the only logical choice
And this is the exact reason why Trump is getting elected, people would rather vote for him than Hillary. Time to just sit back and enjoy the show
How fucking pathetic is our political system and Clinton, when the fascist racist idiot is more likable than someone with actual experience (as limited as shitty as that experience was)
So the next question is, how will he try to attract the center?
Hillary has enough skeletons in the closet, I have to think something will get dredged up... though she's been playing the game for so, maybe she's armored against scandal.
It's so easy to just think that instead of actually spending the time to see how he would allocate the funds...
Math can be wrong when you punch in completely wrong numbers.
Since you have neither the intellectual capability nor the motivation to even find the truth, here you go
Stop listening to Fox News
>And theres no way democrats would unite and vote Clinton many would rather just not vote
I don't think they would. Most people will see Clinton as the lesser of two evils and vote for her; see South Park's Douche and Turd
It's pretty much already clear now that she'll be the next POTUS
If Hillary was indicted before everything goes down then I could definitely see Bernie having a chance. He has a medium amount of the Democratic voters on his side, along with most if not all of Independants. So if Hillary is gone, then Democrats would unite under Bernie.
>Maybe do your own research on the topics at hand instead of asking for a handout.
Ever heard of fact-checking sources?
Use that Google machine and find it yourself.
I'm not here to hold your hand.
>implying getting information from the candidate is bad.
Unfortunately this is the path he will probably choose if he doesn't win. In which case nothing he stands for would come to fruition, and Hillary would probably lead him on into the VP spot just to cuck anything he wants to see come forward.
Not a Trumpie. Just don't like people who think their candidate is perfect and everyone else is nonsense. If you're not intellectually honest enough to recognize the flaws of your candidate, your opinion on the other candidates probably isn't worth listening to.
i worry about Trump... seriously.... is he just going to get into the white house and start making demands to other countries like they arent going to care if they're getting screwed?
How's China going to feel about losing its jobs?
How the FUCK is he going to make Mexico build his wall? (dont get me wrong... the wall needs to go up.)
some of its lunacy but nothing more outlandish than Sanders has promised. This main difference is that Sanders has a track record that goes in his favor....the man doesnt flipflop.
Trump has no real experience in REEL polititics and quite frankly.. i think if he gets in hell be in for a rude awakening. either way... i think im going to move to Russia and be apart of the Putin youth. They actually seem like they can conquer the world.
>Trump is confirmed new overlord
>What are your thoughts /b/?
Hillary will win. get over it. Trump is her old friend and will fuck up his own campaign in a few months to shoe her in. There are no new overlords but the old overlords
He wouldn't take it and Hillary legitimately, for some odd reason, thinks she is the more progressive candidate.
She is mostly likely to pick Corey Booker ,or some fake democrat to make her look even more "progressive"
I've done my research anon, I don't need your handout. But your source is not authoritative. Which means there's no reason to post it. Which means your position is basically
>nyah nyah I know I'm right
And it's easy enough to say "we'll just take money from those people over there"... actually doing it is not as simple.
.....oh god.... run the replebs into the ground then tank his own campaign for the one whos been pulling the stings from the start.....
South Park will have a field day figuring out which storyboard to run with.
>but nothing more outlandish than Sanders has promised.
Oh, outlandish like Healthcare, education, and infrastructure reform?!
HOW FUCKING CRAZY
Seriously, what an old fool.
It's not like every other major country on this planet has universal health care, low cost/paid for education, and amazing infrastructure with renewable energy...
Vast majority of polls show Trump losing to both Clinton and Sanders, but to Sanders by a much larger margin.
Sanders is the better choice, because Sanders supporters either won't vote for Hillary or will vote for Trump in protest.
That aside, he's not locked in until he gets the votes needed. All these campaigns are suspended, not ended, which is basically just fancy talk for, "I'm not spending any more money, but I still hope this goes brokered and I win."
Wait...so I've cited my source (and can continue to do so showing how he pays for his policies) and somehow I'm still wrong?
You're kidding right?
Post your findings then you lazy fuck.
It's funny how you tell me I'm wrong yet provide NO unbias and credible sources defending your position.
Please end yourself
Oh, do remind me when I said I "trust candidates"
Also, remind me where else you get the candidates supposed positions except from their site.
It's up to you to do the research and fact check their claims you dumb fuck.
I don't expect you to understand that though, since I've stated it twice and you seem to ignore it
Every other major country in the world is either smaller and easier to manage or communist. We, as the US, can't really say "we're making this like that now" and have it happen overnight.
I am living in the Netherlands which is basically democratic socialist paradise. It sucks balls. Why? Because people pay outrageous taxes for stupid subsidies and lose themselves in post modern bs ideas that do not make sense at all. Oh and the cucking for """"diversity""" for the sake of diversity is bonus one gets. It's a deontological hell.
Think it is an isolated incident? Yeah right. Look at Germany, Belgium, Denmark and Sweden (a country void of any self respect)
Berny is a wolf in sheep clothing.
Not that Trump is any better, or Hillaryf for that matter.
Ha, guess americans are fucked.
How many of those "major countries" are facing serious glitches in their welfare state, and declining economic prospects? As many problems as the US faces, our economy is growing and diverse.
How many are smaller and more homogeneous than the large US states?
I didn't state a position. Or even say you were wrong. I just questioned your source. Because it is pulled directly from the campaign website. I'm trying to help you think instead of just spamming a link and getting ass blasted.
I know, I know, why bother.
Here's another--how does the president compel congress to make those changes to the revenue system, when both parties seem strongly disinclined to do so?
Trump is a fucking moron that can't even articulate articulate argument to save his ass, doesn't answer questions directly, doesn't understand foreign policy or global economy. He thinks this is a tv show where he gets to talk shit instead of addressing the issues. Give me the devil who's smart any day of the week over a jackass that can't answer simple questions.
trump has no chance
the people saying they'll vote for trump if they can't have sanders were likely never actually democrats anyway, so their effect will be insubstantial
>That's why America loves him
>That's why he has the highest turnout with women of any republican nominee since the 1920's
That's why he has the highest turnout with latino's over any republican nominee since the 1920's
That's why he has the highest turnout of blacks with any republican nominee since the 1920's
already voted Trump
depending on his vp pick (if he can bring back the cuckservatives without losing moderates or ex-dems) he will win in a landslide.
The democratic party relies on two demographics; minorities and the youth. Both are unreliable in the first place, they are also essentially split between the two candidates
bernie of hillary will have an incredibly hard time unifying the base regardless of vp pick
...did you actually just say that Sanders was placed just so Hillary can win?
Take that foil off your head, boy.
Zero political experience in any area
worst fucking foreign policy decisions in a while.
She thinks Kissinger is a god when it comes to FP.
Has called out every single major political FP decision that ended up being fucking retarded.
Tell me who's better
So our being the wealthiest country in the world by a far fucking margin is just going to be ignored?
Yes, we're large.
That honestly means nothing in this argument because we have the funds to back it all up.
Were we too big when FDR made his decisions?
Maybe, but the motherfucker found a way.
It's not a lack of possibility, it's a problem of greed (off shore accounts, companies like GE never paying a cent in fucking taxes) and laziness.
Ever heard of the Magna Carta?
The US is pretty damn good at adopting other countries policies then tweaking them to fit our country and its agenda.
Stop being an idiot and thinking we can't do it.
The US is not those countries.
You're assuming we will follow the path of you guys.
Also, I've watched this country plunge into the longest war in its history, the economic crash, Wall Street bailouts, Auto bailouts, infrastructure falling apart in our major cities, almost zero increase on our education implementation.
Apparently what we're doing isn't helping...so do tell me (guy who doesn't even fucking live here) what the answer is..Complete Capitalism isn't the answer
Listen all you socialist puppies, fuck off with all dat. You don't get to steal money from the rich just because ur too dumb to earn it yourself. I am a struggling independent artist but guess what bitches? I don't mooch off of nobody, because I'd rather die in the streets than do that shit. What the fuck is your dream worth if you need millions of people's taxdollars to fuel it
Well, considering Hillary is about to get indicted, Bernie has a real chance.
As far as Trump goes, he has no chance.
He is polling so badly with Women that even Republican women are jumping ship; not to mention he has lost almost all of the Hispanic vote, and you need that to win.
A pretty stupid move on Trumps part, if he locked down the Hispanic vote he would actually have a chance. Many Mexicans are very religious and have historically voted Republican simply on the issue of abortion, but not anymore thanks to Trump.
if you are even slightly politically aware/savvy you know the republicans have no chance at the Whitehouse.
The polls are so far ahead in the Democrats favor that even if they were off by huge margins Trump would lose.
The only way Trump can win is if the head of the FBI, a Republican appointed by Obama, decides to wait until after Hillary is confirmed to have her arrested. That would destroy any chance for a Democrat to take office.
Personally I am a Bernie supporter and hope she gets charged now, that way it will knock her out of the race.
I can't stand Hillary, but Trump would be a disaster in my opinion. Too bad Kasich didn't win the nomination, I would have voted for him over Hillary in a heartbeat.
One good thing with Trump is he got Cruz out of the running, Trump might be a narcissistic, delusional, incompetent child, but Cruz is the devil incarnate.
>doesn't answer questions directly
What politician does?
Agreed on most of the other points, our only hope would be if he chose good advisers.
He had no chance to win the primary twelve months ago... whatever else you say about the man, he's a consummate showman. He was born to play the election game in an era when people think in soundbites and memes.
>I'm trying to help you think
Wait wait wait.
Let me get this straight.
I've given you a source.
Given you'd probably be pissy with any link I gave you, but it's a link none the less.
Now...instead of giving me a source for your side....you just claim I'm stupid.
Motherfucker, you haven't provided a single shred of evidence supporting what you're saying.
You tell me you're trying to help me think but you don't even understand how a fucking discourse works.
I give my source, you give me one, then i refute.
Holy fuck, you're an idiot.
No need talking to someone who refuses (or just can't) back up their claims.
Let me ask everyone here what it is they want our new leader to do?
Picture whoever the fuck it is...... idc.... fucking BATMAN as president.... what would you have Baman do to make the real world a better place?
Build wall, paid for with OUR taxes and built by our hands. Reform immigration to where it actually works and properly vet those would be citizens.
End civil war in Syria and rebuild with American contractors and Engineers (in 30 years... they will fucking love us)
This shit about ISIS. Join up with other nations to PUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND in addition to what we already have going on. Yeah it sucks... hell... I'll fight along side you guys.
Hold Police, Judges, and politians MORE accountable for their actions. This recent pedophile who was the speaker of the house back in.... idk.. 90's should have fried. What did they give him again? Cop who still have jobs after driving drunk? yeah... no... fuck you. Every cop that shoots an unarmed person should never see the light of day. end of story.
thats enough.... this tread 404ed already.
Are you retarded?
If you're asking 'how does Bernie plan to pay for this?' and someone can link to the fucking guy himself saying how he plans to pay for it, that's the best evidence you can get.
Whether you agree with his plan or think he'll follow through is your call, but there's nothing wrong with citing the candidate on his own fucking policy.
That's a load of bullshit being speak by pfrump supporters. All of the black that showed up to a scrump rally where there to protest no support. 35% of repukes support drump, what about the other 75% that don't want him?
I'm not saying we can't do it, I'm saying people expect such a big change to happen in such a short time for such a big country, which honestly doesn't seem too realistic.
I'm >>682645801 by the way
well you obviously are misinformed, Sanders stated exactly where the money will come from and how it will benefit the middleclass and working class.
Do a bit of research instead of reading off misinformation spewed out by paid Hillary shills.
Pretty accurate. As a lifelong Democrat I wanted Kasich. Cruz was scarier than Trump because I think Cruz actually believed the stupid shit he says... I think trump just says stupid things because he knows he is talking to morons.
>Join up with other nations to PUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND in addition to what we already have going on.
Putting boots on the ground in that fucking quagmire is a waste of time and money, how many times have people tried it?
What we need is one of the local powers to put boots on the ground. If they annex the place oh fucking well, maybe they'll bring some actual stability.
Alright ya cunts, these are all the best political views you can possibly have, I'm gonna break it down so your little peewee brains can understand.
1) Capitalism is best, with little bits of socialism mixed in so niggas arent dying left and right
2) Abortion should be legal because fetuses are bitches that have no feelings
3) Any gender/sexuality/whatever movement that someone makes that doesnt affect you should be allowed because stop bein a lil crybaby
4) Focus on climate change issues because dat shit is ruff
5) Dont let nobody in who aint a legal citizen because shit nigga, we got too many already. Fuck
>going to /pol/ and pitches "we should just end a war and rebuild syria for them using american contractors" with no economic explanation or justification
would get eaten alive in the /sg/
who's pissy in this conversation?
I never offered a source, maybe you're confusing me with some other anon.
I didn't make any specific claim, I questioned the veracity of your source.
I believe the poster he was replying to said "there's no way to pay for this shit".
Bernie's website says he'll pay for it in certain ways. Alright.
But if those certain ways are politically intractable or otherwise DOA, then there is still "no way to pay for this shit". If independent sources say "yeah, those certain ways he's suggesting might actually work", I'm much more inclined to believe them.
Except the local powers are shit. and arent we arming them already.
Hell... I'd love for them to Hero up and make some shit happen but its been back and forth with the IS for some time now.
......least... thats what Ive been seeing.
>lets take money out of social security even though its set to crash ala 1977 in the next 5 years
>Implying Wall Street bailouts and Auto bailouts are something one would do in a capitalist system
>Not realizing this is exactly socialistic bs.
Look kid, Keynesian economics is not going to work. It was tried and it failed.
I know you mean well and I agree certain things should be provided by the community like emergency services, infrastructre and primary and secondary education. Just to kick start peoples life’s. But after that it is your own fucking problem. If you fail, you fail. Too bad, life isn't fair and all that. But full pampering and deontologism is fucking annoying and constraining on anyone who isn't average or wants autocrats deciding what is best for them.
In the end it is not about left vs right, it is about authority vs liberty. Bernie opposes liberty in a lot of ways and I can recognize his campaign as something our politicians would do.
>self described democratic-socialist
>main policies all revolve around expanding social programs and adding new ones
uh.....socialist is a pretty accurate term fam
HERE IS THE OPPOSITION TO TRUMP
Fuck man. I've been trying to tell this to people for months. Trumps only goal is to get Hillary in.
except the idea that America is being flooded with illegal Mexicans just isn't true.
since 2008 America has been loosing more illegal immigrant/migrant workers than gaining. The whole idea that there is a huge flood of illegals stealing our jobs is just a fairytale created to stoke peoples fears.
He's not a socialist - he's a social democrat. He can call himself the king of Mars, but he'll still just be a social democrat. Here's how you can tell:
Someone who says they want to save capitalism by fixing it is a SOCIAL DEMOCRAT
Someone who wants to get rid of capitalism and replace it with a democratic system of production is a SOCIALIST.
Well, FWIW, sacking SS, medicaid, medicare, and so forth to pay for something like a negative income tax would be mighty keen. But it's hard to imagine that happening without big money making sure to take its cut.
>we want affordable healthcare, and freedom from the corruption of the insurance companies
>alright, it's now mandatory to buy healthcare from those corrupt insurance companies. If you can't afford that, we'll slap you with a fat ass fine.
But I'm afraid that soon we'll massively expand/reform the welfare state, and then the gibsmedat lobbies will just start piling on dem programs again.
Fuck off wit dat, brudda. Socialism aint what Merica's all about, gettit? If u want all of that free health care & college & high taxes n shit, go somewhere else, quit tryin to change an already great nation. Fuck
> in it for the money already a billionaire the president makes roughly 500,000 a year you fucking faggot
for what purpose?
that meme is ancient, and considering his counter attack on hillary led to her polling numbers tanking (which benefited sanders) you sound as stupid as the "trump will never be the gop nominee" people
Wow, look at you with your facts and shit. Did I say anything about us being "flooded" is true nigger? No. I said don't let the illegals in, that's it. but of course you gotta go and turn it into a bigger problem because you don't understand politics, let alone the English language.
Well lets sum it up.
Sanders is the oldest, may not even survive a term.
Hillary is your classical hore that would suck a dick if you'd ask her kindly. And then lie about it even when there is proof.
Donald duck is someone who likes to put his name on it and make it a product. Just look at his "trump steak".
America is fucked beyond saving. (laughs in european)
Socialism isn't about "free stuff". Socialism is about eliminating the capitalist ruling class to free the people from exploitation in order to bring about a truly democratic society. Socialism means everyone takes direct ownership and responsibility for building a better world with a real future.
What you think is "socialism" or "liberal" is just weak-ass make-yourself-feel-better-about-global-waste-and-exploitation bourgeois bullshit.
BIDEN FOR DEMOCRAT NOMINEE, ALL NORMALFAG EXPECTATIONS NEED TO DIE.
Do you understand that you can't solicit campaign donations and then just walk away with a big pile of money? It all gets spent on staff, publicity, and more fundraising events. It costs many millions of dollars just to run national broadcast ads that only oldsters watching TV at noon on a tuesday will see.
>he doesn't know yet
Last 3 polls:
Trump up 2%
The democrats feeling of invincibility after 8 years is like clockwork. People were saying this same shit during the 2000 election
>bush can never get elected
>lol what a clown, can't wait for gore
>the country is more liberal than it used to be
can't wait for a repeat, the liberal asspain is hillarious
>tfw you can feel someones impotent rage through text
Oh, we'd better listen to this guy. He's got the kind of savvy elitism that made America what it's become.
here's whatll happen if trump wins
>30 billion dollar wall isnt happening
>clickbait reading cucks voting for him turn
>GOP is even more fractured
>Dems take House and Senate
>GOP runs John Kasich
>Loses to Kanye West in the general
and Trump will get elected because of corruption in politics, political correctness, and the regressive left going batshit insane lately.
Honestly liberals have no one to blame but themselves for his rise
It's the best bait for stupid Americans who can't understand political systems but have very strong feelings about them (i.e. 99% of them). And that goes for Sanders supporters as well as the reactionary hordes. Actually learn something about socialism before calling yourself a "democratic socialist" for fuck's sake - it's embarrassing.
Nobody have shown me different.
Nobody here has posted any kind of source for their bullshit in support of Trump.
Not one of you dumb fucks.
Show me why you stupid fucks aren't stupid for voting for Trump
political correctness is the dumbest piece of rhetoric ive seen. it's just used by hicks who say some extreme 3dgy5me "fuckin kill all dem niggers" shit and then get dragged because they cant even back up their own views so they just cry PC. It's almost as sad as trigglypuff
When you build your wall, please follow the Mason-Dixon line. Thanks a bunch!
i blame both side for being ineffectual, and im gonna bask in it.
polls don't mean anything at this time of the year.
The reality is that it is extremely hard for any republican to win the white house. See pic related.
You need 270 Electoral Votes to win. The democrats start with 242EV, the republicans start with 102.
If the democrats win Florida, they win. If they win Ohio and a couple of states that have voted democrat in 5 of the last 10 elections they win.
Republicans can only win if they win Florida and Ohio and all states that have voted republican at least twice in the last six elections. That is pretty hard for any republican nominee.
so much fun to watch the retard left lose their shit.
cant wait for when the pussy's try to riot
thats why dems are switching party affiliation is massive numbers and independents have been siding with him over sanders
The democrats have moved too far from the clinton era centrists, nobody wants to associate with radical democrats socialist idiots, especially when we can look at europe and see where its gotten them
also the lack of nationalism with any of their candidates (or even our current president) puts alot of americans off
We're lucky if the maintenance costs 8 billion. There is no way in fuckin hell that wall will do anything or cost that little. Even the Border Patrol union that endorsed Tha Donald says that it aint gonna work
>hey man, what's your favorite food?
>Shepards pie and beer
>no faggot I need a different person to tell me what your personal views and opinions are
I died a little on the inside realizing people like this can vote
PA all but guaranteed for Trump
He beat both Hill and sanders in voters by tens of thousands in wilkes, northampton, and lehigh
If two of those electoral districts flips, the entire state does- and it seems all three (in addition to the district just south of pittshit) will all be flipping
This is the arrogance i was talking about before, never count your chickens before they hatch
there are no guaranteed states
NO that is not the fucking problem. The fucking problem is people thinking post modernism is a concept that it to be taken seriously. The problem is that we get diversity for the sake of diversity forced down our throats. The fucking problem is that """"progressive""" movements dont fight for civil rights or other good things but are people that want cultural dominance in some fucked up revenge fantasy for something they never underwent personally.
A lot of Trump voters, but also 'racists' in europe just want fucking sanity restored and not some obvious bs for muh minorities and muh 'equaility but only according to my political ideas'
what about him? Will he win 242EV without even haiving to campaing? yes he will.
What about the 28EV he needs to become president? If you ask me he would win easier than Hillarry
When these "politically-savvy" Democratic loyalists lose the general because they were arrogant enough to run a universally-hated, transparently corrupt, uber-establishment candidate against populist, media-expert Trump in an election cycle when voters are on the verge of rioting over political corruption, they're going to shift the blame onto Bernie supporters non-stop for the next eight years - I guarantee it.
I'm not convinced trump is a racist, he's just a blowhard. Hillary on the other hand should be in a prison cell, several times over.
She should be in a god damned cell. I have trouble finding a single reason to vote for Hillary.
Shit man, I live in MN.
And I'm not saying Trump isn't repugnant. But his stated policy positions are more moderate than Cruz.
And to break with edgy /b/ racism for a moment, I think his racebaiting is abhorrent, but I'm a white man with prospects and I'd rather not be disenfranchised. Hillary really has nothing to offer me.
>a statement of personal preference is the same as analysis of a complex policy
Well that's just foolish.
>She should be in a god damned cell. I have trouble finding a single reason to vote for Hillary.
>not wanting a woman in the oval office
what, are you some kind of MRA beta? DO YOU HATE STRONK WYMEN!????
If you believe that trump puts PA in play then he is unlike any other GOP candidate and democrats should be scared.
I don't believe he does, but he definitely has a better chance to flip some blue states than any other republican. Mostly because he is to the left of Hillary in quite a few issues.
legit someone assassinate him
instead of using your one crime spree on something worthless like a school shooting that just gets lost in the sea of school shootings and will be forgotten in a few days, use it to change the course of history for the better.
you will be hailed as the one true hero of the internet. irl people will be too pc to say it but on here everyone will revere you
>become a deity today and at least attempt it niggers
>hurr the candidates website will only have facts on it
There is a reason that other Anon wanted you to get better sources. Using the website of the candidate doesn't do shit. It can be changed at a whim to suite their interests and promote misinformation in an attempt to garner further support.
I agree; we're left with two terrible choices. But how on Earth is there the remotest chance that "progressive" policies will get rammed down your throat as a result of this election? Progressives hate Clinton almost as much as the Republicans do now. She's a neoliberal with a couple token social policies to placate the base that she regularly spits on.
>mfw I did my part and went to the booths after work and waited in line for an hour to vote for bernie, and Hillary still won my state.
I agree with you, If he wins.
Right now chances are not all that high for republicans. If anything Trump increases their chances by at least 10% as compared to Cruz, but no republican is going to have an easy time
>I don't believe he does
im not going off beliefs, just facts.
>50-60k democrats flipped party affiliation to vote for Trump
>beating both democratic candidates in purple districts crucial in the election (1.5 of the 4 cancels out philly completely)
>democratic turnout lower than it has been in 20 years
its doesn't look good for either her or sanders in PA
It's a liberal circle jerk. Sorry you guys won't be able to blaze your weeds with sanders loosing.
>there were no camps before 1941
>most just had filthy commies
>US did the same thing
>why do jews get to stand on the Holohoax
One step closer
>no republican is going to have an easy time
Things are really going differently this election cycle. Eight years ago Trump getting the nomination would have been 100% impossible. Young people are turning on the political parties and can't be kept in line the way television-addicted, low-information baby boomers were. I think we're going to continue to get surprised.
Trump is going to walk right into the white house. The Dems are split in half over a socialist and a criminal. New York and Pennsylvania are turning red this election if the voter turnout tells us anything.
>liberals owning guns
>liberals doing anything themselves instead of begging others to do it for them
>mfw I tried to vote in the primaries
>wouldn't let me because I wasn't registered Republican or Democrat
>I believe I registered as other
>could only vote on some local county bullshit
Good thing I was fucking wasted.
>he would allocate funds
Congress allocates funds....it's their fucking job. Do you even civics? basic civics? Do you honestly believe any of it would even get past a congressional committee vote?
nah man im canadian but you were close
cant get that shit easily
im moderate :|
>not my country but u fags need to man up and take this shit into your own hands
Yeah, I'm voting third party and I'd rather see Trump and his supporters get blamed for the coming shitstorm than have fallout from the standard stupid, pro-multinational-corporation economic policies be blamed on "the liberals" as per usual during a Clinton administration.
>no way a man who believes all women fantasize about raped should have the nuclear codes
>no woman who has laughed about getting a pedophile off the hook for raping a 12 year old should have the nuclear codes.
Why are people so butthurt over Trump? I thought we were supposed to elect people based on charisma and emotion alone.
hope you are right, they have not voted republican since 1998, but it is close. A PA loss would be huge for the democrats.
Still, Hillary is going to have a very large advantage in raising money and she will have a very small number of states to spend it in.
Trump, much less money, much more states he needs to spend on. He better continue getting all that free advertisement.
Hi. I am the op of that post you replied to. I am not trusting of politicians in the first place because I do too many drugs. But I believe that an off camera interview with the NY Times (which is a fairly liberal paper) is a decent window to his head
>and take this shit into your own hands
I voted for Trump last tuesday and made fun of sanders kids when they were crying in their beers
I don't like to categorize myself to a certain party so I figured I'd put other as I though I'd reflect my views. I realize now that it was a mistake. I should have listened to my father and registered Republican so the Big Red Machine doesn't fuck me in the ass.
>still unwilling to accept the reality that the price signal is essential to allocating resources in goods, services, and capital markets
>still unwilling to face up to the incentive, knowledge, organizational, and enforcement problems thar make socialism/communism unworkable
>still clinging to the no true scotsman fallacy when faced with the many examples of socialism's failure
Please remove yourself from the gene pool
not even close u flipant dog meat.
i have never been to pol
nice pic tho
congrats on exercising your democratic right. was that supposed to make me mad? :)
>you can't count on young people to actually vote, that has been proven again and again
That's just rationalization for the party machines who consistently run candidates who are obviously corrupt and have zero appeal to anyone who has access to a diverse source of information like the internet.
Hillary is winning by a landslide in every single poll. It's not even close.
Anyone pretending otherwise simply is denying reality.
Trump really is the worst candidates for the Republicans. His disapproval rating is the highest of modern candidates. He's cost Republicans any shot at winning a minority vote (including women) for at least a generation. They're fucked.
If Trump wins, he better have knowledge of the Philippines, given that Flip commies are threatening to kill US troops.
Pls explain . My father has pretty much lived here his whole life and said that because this area is mostly run by Republicans and has been for decades, that it might be an advantage.
Even candidates who poll incredibly well with young people (as gore and obama did) will always have mixed turnout
Youth are never consistent votes, they haven't been since the 70s, regardless of party or candidate.
The only demographic with more variable turnout are the blacks
>things I like about massa:
>massa is nice
>massa is kind
>massa give me stuff
>massa treat me better than the field slaves
Good job sticking up for the ruling class, capitalist house nigger.
>planned economy will never, ever work
>wal-mart's computerized distribution system is a miracle of capitalism's genius
Oh wait, but if we just added "labor input" at the beginning of the distribution system and "distribution to workers" at the end of the system, we'd have exactly a democratically-planned socialist economy at the macroeconomic level. Whoops.
half meme half truth
The obama administration has weaponized the irs to a certain degree, specifically targeted different republicans
>like ben carson after the wh correspondents dinner 2 years ago
There was an internal investigation, some people were fired, but the practice still goes on
But it wouldn't matter long as your not involved in politics or rich
those same pols and experts had trump out of the GOP race a year ago... do you know how that turned out?
Interesting. I fucking hate politics but I only voted to exercise my right to. I hate all the candidates that are running and even though my one vote won't really change anything I feel better knowing that I didn't vote for any Republican or Democrat.
What you're saying is primaries don't matter at all. that even hillary get indicted and they hand to biden instead of sanders there will be no problems for the democrats. I DO WANT JOE BIDEN TO BE THE DEMOCRAT NOMINEE FOR CHAOS NO NORMAL POLITICS ANYMORE. BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE HE WOULD WIN THE PRESIDENCY.
>yfw you realize Trump could easily afford that
no, hes been saying since the beginning that the RNC is picking up part of the bill in the ge
Its complicated, but their same funding will also be going towards local elections in November and doesn't bind someone to X doner like primary campaigns do
except for dropping the military and like you said, raising taxes
if you want to talk about insupportable policies, look no further than trump. he wants to maintain the military and at least a small part of medicare/medicaid (for veterans at least). he can't do either with his tax plans, which basically reduce tax revenue to pocket change in comparison with the combined needs of the military budget and even just the veteran's portion of medicare/medicaid
voting democrat not because of immigrants or war or even foreign policy in any way, but only because hillary has the only sustainable tax plan (sanders' might have worked barring the extreme pushback from congress he'd inevitably get but he's not going to win anyway)
New York voting republican? I would love to see that.
The facts however are that Hillary will win NY without spending a single buck from her war chest, NYCity is just brutal and Wall Street is 100% Hillary country
why do niggers ALWAYS gotta nig
how do people like you still exist? its been said 100 times and over, and Im sure you have heard all those times, but still decide to ignore it because you are a deluded piece of gutless shit, that trump is NOT a racist, because not you, not anyone has in the timespan of ever stated what exactly that is that trump has said that is racist. NOONE has proven that by even a single statement. now shut the fuck up and research isntead of repeating from braindamaged children. but who am I kidding, you are just gonna keep repeating it now arent you?
You know, it sure is bad that both presidential options at this point are fucking shit
Too bad there isn't an Independent party to vote for or anything
He still doesn't have 1237 delegates yet.
Also, if they nominate him, the entire country will look like the LA riots, so the GOP had best think about this before acting too quickly.
primaries don't matter at all? That has absolutely nothing to do with anything I said.
What I am saying is that votes don't matter at all UNLESS you are in a swing state.
A very very small number of votes in swing states will decide the election and it has a much higher chance of swinging the democrats way.
That's a different scenario. Nobody really knew his politics. Once Republicans found out he was a horrible racist, misogynist, and a hate-mongerer they flocked to him because Republicans are terrible pieces of shit.
His favorability ratings among independents and Democrats has only dropped since he got into the race. They're historically low. He's not going to be drawing in new voters. And Republicans simply aren't winning another presidency until they figure out how to bring in new voters.
Trump has single handedly cost the Republican Party this election, the Senate, and likely any minority votes for at least a generation.
If you Americunts want to invite a shithead fascist like Trump into power with open arms then your country fully deserves him. On the plus side, he's so bad at everything he tries (other than pandering to losers - see pro wrestling, reality tv, republicans) that he probably won't be a very good fascist either.
Trump may be rich on paper, but taking out 400 million and putting them on the table is something I don't believe he can do.
Why should he need to? The whole point of winning the republican nomination is to get access to money raising and party funds.
>supply curve goes up
>demand curve goes down
>can't explain that
Uh oh, it's an Econ 101 expert! I bet he even owns a book by von Mises that he's never read - that's the equivalent of a graduate degree in Econ 101! Sorry, but the time you spent pretending to learn economic theory between your hangover and muff-diving the fraternity hand-me-down gives you a confidence to actual knowledge ratio in this area that is positively, well, American.
He is going to hire his own company to build the wall
He is literrally going to pay himself a shit ton of tax money to build a useless wall that wont stop the drugs comming into the country
>Trump may be rich on paper, but taking out 400 million and putting them on the table is something I don't believe he can do.
i image selling a few assets he owns in their entirety would make that fairly easy
but yeah, he doesn't have to so why on earth would he?
why? why does the GOP need to worry about retards going full retard?
why does the GOP need to consider what the idiots on the left will do?
you are thinking like a full cuck... you consider yourself an intelligent progressive dont you?
better not disagree with a muslim cause they will explode you know
Trump has donated to ever party and every presidential candidate for years he's never denied it... to his point, they all took the money and now they want to slam him .... two faced cunts is his point
I want trump to win to see this country blow over.
Racism doesn't work in a big country like the US.
LOOK AT THE TSA and patriot act bullshit.
Everyone was cool with that because they thought only Muslims would get bullied.
Well look what we got.
I'll be here for a few years, I hope to god trump doesn't Piss off half the world and my passport gets revoked.
There is absolutely ZERO argument against Trump.
IF someone attempts to make one, it's usually filled with either: misinformation/lies
Hillary is a fucking cock sleeve for anyone who will pay enough for her to achieve her personal goals.
Sanders is a psycho with absolutely no policy nor any legitimate intelligence
>Hurr he'll give me free college
Yeah, so will most socialists. It means nothing, because someone still has to pay for it.
If he indeed goes up against HIllary, I hope he wins.
Maybe after the worst decision this country has ever made in picking Obama, we will finally wake up and actually have more than 40% of our population voting or even caring about elections.
Just makes me so happy seeing people make the only logical choice
Math in poltics is a lot like math in economics.
>implying sanders supporters aren't easily the most retarded
so those experts and polls were not smart like you to know republicans rape white girls, kill all the gays and hate all the browns?
you should be an expert... you seem really super smart
That has to be conflict of interest.
I always wanted to be mayor of my town to give myself contracts, that dream was torn when I found out how much shit i could get myself into.
Pretty much this, although I've been hoping this would be the case for a while now anyway. I think his campaign rhetoric is mostly bullshit, and I don't think he'd ever intentionally do anything to improve the lives of Americans. He's in it entirely for himself, and that's cool.
It's not his ideas, and shit that I find appealing. It's the fact that neither the Democratic or Republican Parties want him. They do not appreciate him invading their domain at all. Putting him in the White House is the best "fuck you" the American people could give them at this time. If we're really lucky it may even motivate them to get their shit together, stop being so divisive, stop putting personal, corporate, and/or foreign interests ahead of that of the American people, and actually work together to improve the country, like they are supposed to be doing in the first place. Probably not, but we can still hope.
He's going to be a lame duck going in. Neither party are going to support him on anything that they don't absolutely have to, and maybe not even on some things that they do absolutely have to as well. He'll not hesitate to resort to Executive Orders, but the Supreme Court too will try to hinder him every step of the way, and unlike Congress, their say on matter is final. Unless he can manage to get the Constitution itself amended, which he will not--at the best of times this is extremely difficult to do, hence the reason it has only been amended 17 times since the original constitution and Bill of Rights were ratified, and one of those 17(the 18th) has since been repealed. Even if he's halfway serious about any of the shit he's promising, his chances of pulling it off are borderline impossible.
Also if he gets elected, the Republican party will lose control of the House and senate come mid-term. I suspect that quite a few incumbent Democrats will also be losing their seats too though. Trump will be good for the country, whether he intends to be or not.
In that they don't even know which way to hold the graph?
>Laughing at anyone about politics
Better to have shitty presidential nominees than not able to go into certain parts of your city knowing you will be decapitated.
Not even the most nigger infested shithole here in the US is as hostile to whites as Muslim districts are to non-muslims in places like Germany, the UK, and Sweden
yup, they give novel prizes for both.
not sure what part of my statement you have a problem with, so let me address both:
votes only matter on swing states. This is true by definition, if votes mattered on a non swing state it would be a swing state.
the election has a much higher chance of swinging the democrats way. We calculate chance for a future event by looking at past events and extrapolating. Does that mean that republican's can't win? Not at all, it just means that looking at past events the chances are against them.
I love turning on the news and hearing republicans say they are going to vote for Hillary.
I don't think they will, but just the fact that they admit that she is much closer to their core values than a republican makes my day
well now you have to remember to the euro-cucks if you are white and go into a muslim area and get recked or raped it is your fault.
to think any other way is racist to the euro-cuck
This is actually the best reason I've seen for why to vote for Trump. Playing the long game. The problem is that it requires things to stay relatively stable for 4 years, and that just seems unlikely. A single big crisis and you've got a fascist in the oval office, and a congress/senate that is suddenly willing to give him whatever he wants. History pivots on those kinds of unexpected accidents, and that's why people like Trump need to be kept out of power at any cost. Vote for Hillary and then spend the next 4 years building up a coalition around the candidate you want to replace her in 2020.
"frustrated" is a pretty gentle way of saying "bust a cap in someone's ass"