>>682611106 claims to be anti-war, voted for Iraq War. claims to be pro-gay rights, spent whole life opposing equal marriage. claims to fix american economy, helped bail out banks and help hedge fund managers stay in business after they fucked everything up. she's a fucking crook/thread
She's good, assuming you want the country to stay the way it is, shelling out trillions to try and control foreign resources with war, bending over to its corporate overlords, giving guns to mexican cartels so the USA can keep their steady flow of coke and heroin, etc
>>682609877 She is the biggest douche bag liar who wouldn't hesitate to kill anyone (or everyone) in this thread to advance her career. Someone as unethical as her would be a serious danger to the country. Trump might be ineffective, but I'd gladly take 4-8 years of comedy gold over someone who'll actively try to spy on US citizens and destroy gun rights.
>>682611575 the US is pretty great right now, it's true. i'm expecting her and the republicans who will fall with the anti-trump wave, to do some better stuff, stuff htat obama was not able to do. can't wait.
>>682611501 what a fucking retard. when a private party (plaintiff) takes another private party (defendant) to court, it's called a lawsuit. when police have caught you in the act of rape, take you to jail, and then take you to court, only then do you face rape charges. fucking imbecile.
>be Hillary >decide you want to be president >first attempt 2008 >play on easy mode >lose to first miniboss. unaccomplished negro named obama
>spend 8 years reading strategy guides, hiring game tutors, making/saving money, calculating every move >second attempt in 2016 >struggle with first miniboss sanders >use super delegate cheat code >limp through to general election with low health
>>682609877 “I don’t know what I’m going to do. I might vote for Hillary,” said Jason Winters, 40, a machinist from Crawfordsville, Ind. “She’s a criminal. She’s a murderer. But she’s better than an authoritarian dictator.”
>>682613695 >much better off You must be one brainwashed idiot. >not knowing Obama increased international and domestic spying by over 500% >not realizing that Obamacare made healthcare more expensive to the average middle class while essentially taxing the poor who still can't afford it >not realizing that obama's ineffectiveness in the Middle East is what made ISIS
>>682614373 I know you must be some uneducated, farmer hick, but Obama has been shipping niggers from the ghettos to white, suburban towns since October of 2014. Democrats spun it as a way to get rid of the ghettos and promote diversity, but it just made these neighborhoods dangerous.
>>682609877 Yurop insight who has been looking at the elections from a distance
Because her political agenda is based around a very fickle political correct voter Base whose political ideals mostly come from group pressure
Rather then having her own political ideals, she just picked an intended audience she felt was numerous enough to win and based her policies off of that
Hillary is in it to win and only to win, she wants first female president on her name and doesn't really give me the idea that she cares about what happens after
Berns policies will require a shitload of taxes, my country doesn't even have free education and some salaries are already taxed over 70%, the US also has a growing lower class which means a small amount of people will get immense tax raises to get free education, most of that money will then be lost in management as is the case here
Trump is the best bet, his wall is a great idea for the following reason:
ISIS stated that they're going to use Europe's open border policy on migrants because security wise it's full of holes to send jihadists into Europe, Europe says there are 5000 untraceable registered jihadists on euro soil now mostly due to the migrant policy
I'm sorry did I say migrant policy? I meant refugee crisis
Either way, ISIS has claimed the same of Mexico US border, they will use that to get into the US, so that wall Trump suggested? Even if America pays for it on their own it will be a worthy investment
You can't shoot a suicide bomber because by the time he has struck it's already to late
The world is shifting to war, liberalism works great in times of peace but those times are behind us
She is a solid politician with a proven track record. Literally the only thing the GOP has on her is the emails and that is just some retarded shit that will not slow her down. The USA prospered under Bill and it will prosper again under Hillary. Bill was a better president than any republican since WW2 prove me wrong.
>>682615308 >Proven Track record >Fucks up everything she's been handed
Also, we prospered under Bill because of the dot-com boom. Literally had nothing to do with him, he just got lucky as fuck. Reagonomics would have worked if there was a dot-com boom and he wasn't retarded and put the money into infrastructure. There haven't been any good presidents since Lincoln. Don't say FDR, he wasn't all the great. Used the Depression and the War to get re-elected that many times and his wife did all the work his last 2 terms.
>>682616541 >mexicans are the least minority to worry about
I wouldn't go that far. Look at all the drug gangs in mexico and the southwest, but I personally have no problems with the mex-ee-cans in my area, unless they're in my way trying to park at 7-11. I'd have to give asians the least to worry about in my area (D.C. Suburbs)
>>682614239 listen not everyone can have a perfect life. it doesn't work that way. it's the harsh reality that bernie supporters have to wake up to. maybe give them another 10 years, time to get out of their special years, the 20s.
trump thinks people make too much in this country and if he tries for universal health care he'll hit a wall of his OWN FUCKING PARTY. poor people are simply fucked under trump. maybe they;ll get a few shit manufacturing jobs but that's it.. bottom of the fucking barrel shit.
obama didn't create isis. and as long as they kill other muslims vs american 10000:1 i don't give a fuck about them.
>>682617028 ok, but I still wouldn't go exploring in Mexico outside of a resort.
>Donald Trump just admitted that his ludicrous and xenophobic plan to build an enormous wall between the U.S. and Mexico is nothing more than a theatrical tactic to liven up an audience that has grown drowsy from boredom.
>In a recent interview with the New York Times, Trump said nonchalantly that his signature campaign promise, the building of a “huge” wall to keep all the rapey illegal immigrants out, is simply an applause line to hoodwink his dim-witted supporters into hooting and hollering.
>>682617372 mexicans in mexico are not minorities. i'm talking about the people as a minority presence in other countries. i'd even say mexicans are less of a threat than shitty americans in other countries. maybe the british just by virtue of them being all half fags anyway
> strong advocate of outsourcing american jobs (NAFTA, TPP, H-1B expansion) > holy fucking Clinton Foundation scandals > voted for the war with Iraq > makes deals with other countries so they will contribute to her campaigns via the foundation while sec of state > stores classified on a private server, federal buttfuck prison offense > is a complete liar > seriously if she is on national tv she will never take a position and if she is on for a narrower audience she will only say what they want to hear > cheated using her DNC cronies in the primary > subscirbes to all the big business interests and insiders that you can imagine > is a lying skank
How could you fucks not see it? And I don't care if she hasn't been officially indicted for anything. Any reasonable person can see she is a bag of shit that just rabidly wants to become president. It's Trump, Green Party, or a write in for me. I will not see her be president and if she is I will leave.
>>682609877 Trump falls in love with a Big and Beautiful Wall.
Unable to confess, he is gifted with by a deus ex machina with the wall's building address. Never minding the strange zip code, he immediately looks up the wall on Maps.com, and is overjoyed to find out that the wall was built by and already owned by The Trump Organization.
But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to Megyn Kelly, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the wall he found is not the same wall he fell in love with. In fact, the wall doesn't exist in this universe at all. The wall is the alternate universe counterpart to this universe's US-Mexican border, which has fallen under administration of the MC's version of President Obama, who is blissfully unaware of the dangers of illegal immigration. The other Trump has been stumped.
Hijinks ensue as both Trumps strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to build a big & truly beautiful wall. While the two chase their respective walls, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of IMMIGRATION.
>>682618181 i supported the iraq war in theory. we were all lied to by bush. and then it was over pretty fucking quickly. what six weeks? there was no vote on whether we should stay in there and occupy the country for a fucking decade. if we had installed a democracy gotten out in 6 months it owuld have been hailed as an amazing success. that didn't happen.
>>682609877 Hey USA, how does it feels to have a nigger as a president? You know, you will also have a woman, and following the trend I think your next president will be gay >enjoy your gay president, faggots
There are parties dedicated to direct democracy, like the United States Pirate Party. If you don't like any of the candidates or think the people could do a better legislative job than some lying politician, why not vote for them instead? Either way, stop complaining and take action.
No, the first vote gave them all the excuse they needed to fund the military industries for decades. You can't just run in and install a democracy in a country with disparate factions that are only being held together by a dictatorship. In fact, a country that isn't really a democracy in the first place shouldn't be shoving it into other people's faces.
They don't all lie. The dems and repubs do, certainly, and thats why we should be voting every single one out. They divide and conquer by sticking to divisive, uncompromisable issues and then making you vote for one side so the other side won't win. They each make you think all the problems are the other side's fault, when really they are both to blame. Beyond the little issues, both of those parties are really the same, and neither work for you. Why support it?
>>682618633 what happens? if you get called stupid enough you go around calling everyone stupid even when they're clearly pretty fucking smart? it doesn't make you any smarter. you're still just as dumb as you ever were.
Tens of countries are worse than Iraq was, yet we never did anything to them. For anyone with knowledge and foresight that wasn't already bought out, it was obvious from the very beginning what would happen. That's why people like Bernie voted against that garbage.
But here we are, 15 years later, still in Iraq, still in Afghanistan.
>>682609877 It's already been determined that she lied about Benghazi. For those of you who say "so... everybody lies", that is true, but not everybody subsequently threatens to put a film producer in JAIL - BASED ON HER OWN DAMN LIES, something "surströmming-crotch" Clinton promised the Benghazi victims families she would do. For the retarded out there, this is called FALSE-IMPRISONMENT. Nobody wants to be imprisoned falsely, and as such, she's walking talking fecal-matter.
>>682619463 it was a mistake and she admits it. i don't know what else you want. we haven't invaded any countries since, at least. thanks to a democrat as president. trump while not wanting war will certainly have it on the table for his "deal" making.
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>>682611636 This. It starts with guns. Then it'll be free speech and press. Then it'll be search and seizure. But it has to start with guns or they know they'll never get the rest. Inb4 "muh drones". 1) They'll never use them on civilians B) State National Guards and most of the military would side with the citizenry if a war started on the basis of the govt trying to do away with the bill of rights which is exactly what Hillary wants to do. We're already seeing the college age kids being groomed to hate free speech(see mizzou, Yale, Emory).
>>682621196 Because people is dumb, that's why you have a nigger as president. Statistically speaking, half of the population is more idiot than average. She only needs to convince that half and some women to vote her.
>>682621196 It's hasn't disappeared. And more likely than not even if she is convicted before Jan 20 2017 Obama will pardon her. The best case scenario is the FBI investigators are waiting till the inauguration(for whoever wins) to make their move. In this case if trump wins she will go to prison. If she wins she will likely be impeached. If she isn't charged with anything then it'll be like it never happened in the first place.
>>682622194 Yes. People need to start understanding at an early age that they need a good education and to be taught that hard work pays off and criminality will only make the world worse. if we could do this and ensure it in all elementary school children with a 100% effectiveness then I, as a trump supporter, would be comfortable providing them with free college as a tax payer. But that's not the case. Currently it's being glorified to be a gang banger and fuck bitches and hoes and yo dawg my mixtape is fire at doe fam. Fathers aren't raising their children and single mothers pick up baby daddies like shoes and EVERYONES OK WITH IT! Fuck that. I'm not voting to support that. That's why I'm not voting for Hillary.
>>682620142 he was at least a politician with a track record that could be checked. he cared about his legacy even though he destroyed it eventually. this is everything trump isn't. and, sadly, i'd vote for him over trump today.
>>682624613 Not him and I get what you're saying but I think a non career politician is exactly what we need right now. When America was at its greatest the best politicians started out as great businessmen or great military men. Now it's as simple as "go to school for politics" and you're suddenly a politician. I think that's what's wrong with politics today. No one has any real world experience anymore and they're not expected to.
>>682625012 maybe but we still need someone who we have an idea of what they stand for. maybe this doesn't need to be a politician. maybe it can be a writer or something, someone who's on record for years about shit that isn't just building his brand. p[lus the things that trump HAS said are just flat out silly, like americans making too much money right now.
it isn't about racism at all. i couldnt' give a fuck about that. i;m white. fuck the mexicans, fuck the muslims, fuck all minorities.
but also i would not use that as a reason to vote for someone. no one should.
>>682625207 I can get down with that. But at he same time if it's him vs her, I'm voting for him as she stands for everything I stand against. And there's nothing wrong with brand building. It's a great business move. The whole Americans make too much thing tho? I don't like that but it's not enough to make me want to vote for her as high wages aren't something the president can really do anything about
>>682625840 Illegal amnesty Letting dindus nuffin BLM SJWs Wage gap(myth) Black oppression(myth) She's not as extreme as sanders but she's still gonna do more socialism type things than I'm comfortable with. She wants to continue obamas failed things like obamacare and she can be quoted as saying she will "emulate Angela Merkel". We all see how great that's going. I will not be voting for that.
I don't even feel bad for you, americans. If those two are the only choice of president do you have, then really there is something wrong with your country. It's like have to choice between eating the poop of your dog or your own poop. Maybe some choice is the best, but all two sucks.
>>682626676 yeah it can't be trump that's for sure. you're shit out of luck this time around. lets hope the democrats put somebody up in 4 years that actually stands a chance to beat her. because the republicans are sure as shit gearing up for the fight in 4 years. the good ones have stayed out this time knowing hilary would win, allowing for a trump candidacy. they didn't count on that.
>>682626804 yeah and how did play out for making america a better place? it wasn't that long after that we were involved in korea then vietnam. if you take away the impact of us being the victors in a major war, how do you know those politicians were so much better than any others?
>>682626248 Here we see the typical slave mentality, which is nearly universal among those raised in capitalist societies. Interestingly, these subjects will also claim to believe in "democracy" and "freedom".
>>682626999 i own my own business make around 10k a month on average have great health care and have a lake house that i'm opening for the summer this coming weekend. they haven't kept me down. perhaps you should speak for yourself or maybe all of the useless fuckers out there. someone's gotta be useless and make shit money. that's how capitalism works.
>>682626676 Any one but Hillary. I'd vote for vermin supreme before is vote for that criminal. I'd rather see a Mexican drug cartel ruin this country, before her. > there is a retarded guy that works at my local wall Mart. He's been there sixteen years. Always telling everyone hello at the front door. They won't let him run the store, no matter how long he's been there.
The system is broken, and electing a career criminal is only keeping it broken.
>>682627652 I'm in the same boat as you. I didn't vote for Rand Paul because by the time it came around it was for me between Trump and Cruz and really both of them are pretty shitty. Now I have to vote for a democrat for the first time, come November.
>>682614128 Ben Carson was decent, but he dropped out. Hillary is still better than trump for her ideas on the likes of education. Although I admit both are bad, Hillary is the lesser of two evils. Trump can't even stand for one position on an issue when he goes on with his campaign, beginning with his political lying process in November, 2015. Besides, I can't possibly let a sociopathic segregationist to make decisions about getting rid of certain groups of people who just want a better life by coming here as opposed to staying in a true shithole where there's absolutely no chance to make a change. With this being said, Trump intends to destroy families who have risked it all to have a better life by coming here. For once stop and think about the children who were born to immigrants. What good will it do to them if their parents get deported?
>>682627339 Cool that anybody thinks they know (or believe so), but I find it nonsense to anybody discussing a subject without checking the specifics and details of that particular thing. Otherwise every discussion turns into an "us vs them" or "this is the goodness against this that is the badness" which is just cartoonish. (Good for series and movies, no so much for solving things in real life for all parts involved).
>>682627853 i agree she's a liar. no contest. why would i have to see proof? they're all liars though. trump sometimes lies in the same fucking sentence claims he didn't say something he said an hour ago, dumb shit like that. maybe bernie wasn't much of a liar. maybe. but that isn't enough for me to vote for someone. i also have to agree with their stated policies.
>>682614239 It's not what made ISIS, you slippery slope faggot. Also, it's not our job to stop the creation of such groups in other places in the world. Worry about fixing our own turf before even concerning yourself with going out and invading other places.
Seymour Hersh recently wrote an article about her involvement in getting Sarin gas to Syria to be used in the 2013 false flag attack. She's also an ex attorney for Monsanto... talks about gun control but is involved with selling guns to other nations. I mean take your pick All around hypocrite, liar, warmonger cunt. Just like every politician that should be executed for being such a piece of scum sucking shit.
>>682628150 agreed. you can go back further and say that bush's shit led to the shit that led to obama not fixing the middle east. and even then we can go back again and talk about the intervention the US has done over there in the last century, especially while daddy bush was head of the CIA. it's a neverending loop of causation.
fuck the middle east and fuck isis. let them kill each other, kidnap each other, torture and behead each other. it's clearly what they love.
>>682629681 no, sorry, you thought wrong. people vote on leaders who they assume will make the decisions that they most agree with. but nowehere in the world do people vote on policy decisions one by one.
She'll bend to SJW demands because she'll be too ignorant to not see them as a consituency, largely because they've stolen a vastly unrepresentative amount of media power for themselves.
If she enacts SJW legislation I will actually start killing people entirely at random. I will have no MO and my targets will be decided entirely by the addition of extremely large prime numbers which have no computational solution costing less than $100,000 USD of computing time. Have fun with that.
>>682632593 ah so you're insane. got it. have fun with all of that. i do have 2 children by lesbians that wanted my sperm. if you manage to find and rape them i'll applaud you aplomb. i don't even know where they are.
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