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Prove to me why you should not believe in Jesus Christ.

He who died for our sins.

He who loves every one of you.
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>>681765204
Why do you care if I believe in god or not?
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Is there a rock heavy enough that Jesus cannot lift?
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No one cares.

Saged.
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Stop aiding Satan, stop hate. Love all.
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>>681765204
You have an emotional bias, not to mention your only source of reference is a fucking book written by sand people from 3,400 years ago.

Why should I not believe in any other god?
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He said some cool stuff. I think ancient peoples exaggerated his feats, saying he made "miracles" happen. Old testament is just fables, made up lessons to learn from. People who take that stuff seriously are goofy.

But yeah, Jesus was alright.
SO NOW SERVE YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR AND FIND FOR ME THE MOST RIGHTEOUS JESUS QUOTES.

WHAT IS THE GOOD WORD OF THE ONE TRUE SAVIOR?

JESUS QUOTES NOW HEATHEN!
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>>681765549
My god is the best looking.
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>>681765204
Fuck off, faggot.
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Religious societies are the cancer of human progress. Think about it, how stupid must you be to actually believe an ancient fairy tale that tells you to stone, rape and kill people?
If you're religious, it simply means you're too feeble, terrified and stupid to open your eyes and accept what's in front of you.
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Religion is cancer
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>>681765683
Athene is sexier.
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>>681765317
Even if we accepted you meant God and not Jesus, that's just a smartass question. The questioni s actually non-sensical and illogical, and neither proves nor disproves God.
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>>681765204
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>>681765295
This
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>>681765204

Did he though?

Who said he did?

Because of words in a book?
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>>681765204
you're only doing a disservice to christians OP
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If Jesus is real, just show him. We would know he exists. All of these games that he plays to "believe" in Him are unsophisticated and immature. Be a grown up, for once.
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>>681765204
>died for your sins

Yeah, he didn't even do a fucking good job of that. Fucking loser.
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>>681766490
Ironic you should say that, because in ancient Rome, the Romans were desperately trying to produce his corpse to prove that Jesus was just an ordinary man and not divine.
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JESUS QUOTES NOW
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>>681765204
>He who died for our sins.

too bad I've never sinned
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Problem here is religious people put a lot of faith in writings.

There is no real proof to say Jesus existed.
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>>681765204
Prove to me why you're not a faggot.
Protip: you can't
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>>681766104
He said Jesus, not God. So answer the question. It's a simple test of your biblical knowledge. A true Christian would welcome the engagement rather than ridicule and deflect.
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>>681767335
You can't exist if you never existed, you idiot.
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>>681767335
Source?
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>>681767420
>never sinned
>is on 4chan
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>>681765204
because i'm busy martha!
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>>681767402

He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."

Luke 22:36
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>>681767771
Oh shit. I totally forgot about Commandment 84789784789453687484864867, Thou shall not visit 4chan.org. It was so clear in the book.
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>>681767881
>if you have a man purse,
>take it, and also a fag bag
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>>681767946
mate your on /b/ looking at porn is a sin
/b/ = porn now adays there are only a couple decent threads
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nice cringe thraedh
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>>681768067

And your childish response was to do what now?

The quote I used was to show how contradictory the bible is, but then.... ignorant people don't read too well and fly off the handle.
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>>681767881
"And if you don't have a cloak or a purse, well biiitch, how you evah goan get dat sweet white boy dick?
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>>681768085
Yup. Sitting here fully clothed with a flaccid dick. Totally looking for teh porn. Good job generalizing, Biblethumper.
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>>681768263
>fly off the handle
go ahead, fly off, fgt pls
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>>681768419

salty much? seems you got hooked right and proper.
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Jesus was middle Eastern, why would you want to pray to an Arab?
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Anyone have the "If you see Jesus of Nazareth posted in this thread, post amen and eternal life and His grace will come to you" image?
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>>681768572

He was Jewish.
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>>681765662
Not OP...

But the best Jesus quote would be the Parable of the Sower. (Matt 13)

Christ almost always taught the most important stuff by Parable or by relation to existing scripture of Torah.

In the teaching of the Sower though, Christ went one further and explained it to his very confused Disciples. He did not often explain himself so directly.

It is one of the best teachings of parable for those with eyes, to learn to see.
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>>681768572
Whiteys too afraid to acknowledge the real Jesus. OH NO, HE'S NOT ARIAN!!!!111!!11
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>>681768632

Arab isn't a religious description
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So here I am trying to play devils advocate, giving the christers the benefit of the doubt you know. "Hey not every Christian is a dipshit who believes fairy tales, Jesus said some actually cool things maybe we can review them and grow as people." NO. Just one out of context nonsense quote. NO CHRISTIAN VALUES HERE FOLKS. Not even any Christians. Just trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls etc. It's all so clear now.

PROVIDE JESUS QUOTES OR YOU ARE A FAILURE AS A CHRISTIAN.
I am otherwise convinced it's just a circlejerk of trolling in here.
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>>681768263
>fly off the handle
you sound like my Grandpa
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>>681767616
you're an idiot
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What always made me laugh about Bible bashers, is that they believe all the shit about JC being the son of God, walking on water, being a zombie etc. But they never questioned why God never bestowed upon him, the ability to read or write... None of the gospels belong to him... Shit is suspich...
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>>681768632
He was Hebrew.

Judah was but ONE of the tribes of Israel.
Mary was of both the lines of Judah and of Levi.

And as a halfbreed, lowercast, Yeshua would have called himself Hebrew to the Romans, or Greeks or.... He was found in the Temple teaching the Rabbi's wonders. (Luke 2)

-Christ at 13
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>>681769340
PROOVE HE EXISTED, YOU IMBECILE!
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>>681769340
>>681769407

Bible scriptures not applicable, if you happen to be an autist.
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>>681769338 (NOT OP)
He could read and write.
But when he came in to his own as a teacher he had at least 12 Students to write for him.

While he healed the sick.
Cast out Demons.
Fulfilled prophecy as he spoke more.

I am not really a fan of God because of God.
I am a fan of God because of Christ.
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1) God is all knowing, all powerful and wants us to worship him.
2) If you don't worship God, you suffer eternally.
3) God tells one person about it and instructs him to tell everyone else.
4) God does NOT simply tell everyone personally.

seems legit.
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>>681769496
One of those 2 posts was mine.
>>681769340

>>681769496
>Bible scriptures not applicable

In a thread about Christ? Of COURSE they are applicable.
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>>681769746
but even according to the Bible, Christ didn't write a single word of it. Everything was written by other men.
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>>681769550

What a load of shit. He would heal the sick and feed the starving, but couldn't take the time to write his own material down to avoid millennia of confusion and misinformation. The dude was a goat-herding mother fucker who probably invented the very first card trick and shit got out of control
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>>681769708
That quiet little voice that tells you to "leave /b/ forever and stop being an asshole"?

Surprise, that's God!
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Christ is the golden calf burnt in the flames of offerings when the children of Israel feared life more then the feared God.

Prove me wrong.
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>>681769708

/thread
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>>681769746
>In a thread about Christ? Of COURSE they are applicable.

That's like saying Santa Claus stories are permitted to show he exists because they talk about Santa Claus, you idiot. Fictional stories are not proof.
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>>681769338
another idiot
i dont know which side is dumber in here
i may take up religion, so people dont think i'm stupid
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>>681765204
I don't believe in fairy tales

/thread
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>>681770022

>Golden calf

JC was human. Proof provided
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>>681767335
Lol. Not
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>>681770241
>not knowing the Tanakh (old Testament) by heart
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>>681767689
Says someone who thinks they know what a "true Christian" is
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Jesus Christ is real end of story haters!
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>>681765204
>he loves everyone of you

But loving dudes is gay, and being gay is a sin.
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>>681770022
THAN THEY not then the, fuck face
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>>681770411
Give me those Jesus quotes I want.
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>>681770540
Troll harder next time
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>>681769877
Double 7's deserve an honest answer.

But first a question.

Who had Christ put to death?

Christ's Students or Disciples wrote of him later. Because they had to flee persecution. Although they could heal people and cast out demons etc. There is one danger to an Apostle that God for what ever reason always allows. (That being the danger of other men.)

When you understand the secrets and reveal them? Often the powers that be are not very happy about it.

Now as to Christs writings? The "Powers that were" Probably had them destroyed.

Torah prophesied that Messiah would both come meekly on a pony, And boldly on a steed.

The reason? either was Possible and it was up to that Days Jews to decide. They chose poorly and so now you are blessed to exist.

Should the right teacher come along and be able to explain to you why Christ was our best teacher ever? That will be up to you and to God to decide.

I pray you find each other.
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>>681765204
prove to me you should believe in jesus
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>>681770802
Something that is not a question does not deserve an honest, nor was it asking for one
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>>681765204
Failed attempt at shifting of the burden of proof.

*tips fedora*
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His dad's an asshole. Just ask job. Jesus can suck my chode
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>>681770749
I have no idea what you are trying to say.
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>>681770802
What a load of shit
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>>681770411

I count this as a good thing. Not having been indoctrinated into a hokey religion and forced to memorise fiction from infancy, to the point where I preach like a good little follower instead of going out and experiencing life. Seriously my friend, life doesn't get sweeter than dropping a few tabs of Ex and being up to your nuts in a girls asshole, I pity you guys who play it safe, hoping that you'll be rewarded with eternity in a boring cloud city
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>>681769966
His family was pretty diverse actually.

Carpenters, Tin Smiths, a Rabbi.

His first miracle was either bringing mud sparrows to life or making wine of water.
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>>681765204
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>>681765204
because he's an ilerminaty
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Here, enjoy this blasphemous take on an old meme you're too young to remember, newfag Christfags
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>>681770101
70 different books gathered in to one.
Many with Hebrew and Chaldean origins over 8000+ years ago.

You should read Psalm 22 and know it predated Rome by 800 years.
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>>681765204
If you think there's a god, that's your deal, but if you're talking about proofs then you are the one who has to prove his existence. Not the other way around . prove to me there's not a giant invisible alien T Rex in mars
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>>681771175
None of this matters. Lots of stories say things that aren't true, citing how old they are is irrelevant.
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>>681770991

Goat-herder is racial slur on middle Eastern heritage.

Ermagurd, I can't believe you didn't know that. I'll just have to keep correcting you until you believe what I'm saying
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>>681770969
READ THE THREAD

I demand Jesus quotes, since I believe this is the whole point of Christianity. DOING WHAT JESUS ACTUALLY GOD DAMN SAID. Instead this whole thread is a headache of weak WEAK arguments on both sides.
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>>681765204
Doesn't exist. Prove that there isn't an invisible, undetectable pink unicorn watching over your every action. You can't, same thing.
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>>681771316
Well there goes the FIRST Commandment.

I quoted him once or twice already.
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Fucker can't even prove God isn't an asshole, much less that he exists.
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>>681765204
Because I'm not a fucking moron?
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>>681771175

Amazing, so the Hebrews invented the written word nearly 3000 years before it was actually invented. Those guys were pretty fucking awesome hey
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>>681769983
You're hearing voices now? Sorry, I'm not crazy.
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>>681770982
There is no power greater, no strength more felt then ones own lucid, sober conscious journey through the great dark unknown. Through the vast universe of unfulfilling experience as you are cast from one subjugation into the seat of the beholder of your own righteous justice.

I have done all those psychedelics, all those uppers and downers, and all take away from the fast edge of life's unnerving and uncaring edge, as your grow older and more frail. To let go of care, of worry, of ones true vision of life's reality and mortality, is worth than death, worse than an eternity of torture. I hope you learn to look upon your life as a God would. To look upon your past and future, the past and future of all of man and learn how fragile this experience is. How so much like our lives are as a drop of water, frozen into this ever-expanding reality through the great sieve of consciousness.
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>>681771316
Matthew Capter 3 verse 10: Then saith Jesus unto him, get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve
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If trips god isn't real
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>>681771804

>Baited, triggered, proved to be a window-licker

>drops mic

/thread
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>>681771443
>Well there goes the FIRST Commandment.
more weak minded nonsense

Do I have to beg? WHAT ARE SOME GOOD CHRISTIAN VALUES? COME ON CHRISTIAN TELL ME WHAT JESUS SAID YOU DANG HECKING PEICE OF CRUD
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>>681765204
I love guns, I looove Jesus.
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>>681771638
Sure you are. You are on /b/.
You do the bump and grind for the American dream.

You ARE crazy.


But do you hear voices?

Well Freud offered Id, Ego, and Super Ego.

The 3 little voices in EVERY mans head.

Modern Media offers a Character with a devil on one shoulder, and an Angel on the other.
There YOU are right in the middle.

When you consider any action you debate it in your head. You observe and react reflexively. Though you may after that decide to take no further actions.

But all of us decide the good or bad of what we do the right choice or wrong choice. At least until we learn to subvert or ignore those choices, and JUST DO IT.
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>>681771981
you will never be a bigger niggers cunt then me
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>>681771980
God isn't real anyway, so it doesn't matter.
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"for it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."

dogs was what they called non jews
fucking hate white people thinking a jewish ͟m͟͟a͟n is their god, how are you meant to argue with that shit
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>>681772108

Not sure what you're trying to say. I find African people to be warm and friendly with a rich cultural history. Jolly good folk
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If you love Jesus please reply "AMEN!"

AMEN!
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>>681772308
its pronounced
jesus, a man
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>>681765317
in his human form, Christ was limited, hence when he said the father is greater than he.
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>>681772308

Why are you posting an image of the homoerotic Da Vinci depiction of Jesus, instead of the realistic middle Eastern version? Can I get a Ramen, people?
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>>681765204
Because I don't believe in Gandalf or Harry Potter either, they're all larger than life fictional characters designed to inspire, entertain, and teach us.
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>>681765204
OP he was a buddist who faked his death
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>>681771994
No, you just have to figure out some how. Who is who on an anonymous image board. But that is probably impossible.

I will give you all the Christian Values.

The Holy Bible.
https://www.levendwater.org/companion/The%20Companion%20Bible%20-%20Bullinger/index.htm

The dictionary of the Bible.
http://biblehub.com/strongs.htm

How Christ defined a follower:
"By their fruit you shall know them" (Matt 7:16)

Those fruits:

Love (Greek: agape, Latin: caritas)
Joy (Greek: chara, Latin: gaudium)
Peace (Greek: eirene, Latin: pax)
Patience (Greek: makrothumia, Latin: longanimitas)
Kindness (Greek: chrestotes, Latin: benignitas)
Goodness (Greek: agathosune, Latin: bonitas)
Faithfulness (Greek: pistis, Latin: fides)
Gentleness (Greek: prautes, Latin: modestia)
Self-control (Greek: egkrateia, Latin: continentia)

I can also provide links to The Law and The Rule. if you like?
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>>681765204
Satan was punished for eternity to show mankind what it means to have free will

Satan also loves mankind
Bigger sacrifice I would say
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>>681772241
The Hebrew People still had a Choice to make.
At that Time the Samaritan woman was in no real peril. She was just another person on Earth doing her drudgery. BUT NOW? She believed and understood. That is very rare. I am quite sure she returned home and preached. Now she reigns in Heaven as one of God's Elect. He was not trying to insult her by using old scripture he was fulfilling prophecy.

He threw the Gates of the Kingdom of Heaven wide open for everybody.

Don't be upset about the labels or Jealous of those who "lie" and proclaim they "are the true Jews". We do not worship a Hebrew or Muslim God. (We may be Hebrew or Muslim or Christians. But God is not.)
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>>681765295
He said Jesus not God you faggot
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>>681773513
i recognize the way you write
did u leave the church or something like that
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>>681765204
Because he corces us to do things we dont want or need to do in his name. If a normal person dod this tjey would be called a dictator or a cult leader. It has hapoened before.
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>>681773904
Forces*
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>>681773947
i thought it was *Coerces to be honest
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>>681773154
Not at all what is happening,
Not even the Hebrew story of Lucifer.


Let me give you as short a version as I can.

God Created the Universe and All the Angels.
Lucifer was among the last or the last Angel created. God gave him the "full measure" All of it all the Potential to be the best the greatest good of all time. To sing and bear Gods cup.

Lucifer would have had the Power to create More Angels of even "life".

He instead decided he wanted to BE God.
He rebelled, he led a third of Heavens Angels in Revolt. Another third were confused by the War and could not choose sides. The remaining third (while Loyal to God?) Fought the war and demanded the Deaths of the other two thirds. God desiring to stop the killing and war. Separated himself from among nearly all the Angels. He demanded that to cross the gulf and declare peace they must each in turn live as humans. But that he too would do this test (And he has!) And so since the Earliest of mankind, until later in the time of Adam and Eve, and even later still when Lucifer tried once again to thwart and pervert Gods plan.

Lucifer has been condemned over and over but not yet thrown into hell. He does not rule it. He will be destroyed by it as will any who decide to follow him to it.

But you can not decide that today.
You have not yet met either Christ or lucy.

Maybe one day you will?
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>>681773901
Yes.
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>>681765204
if he died, how can he love us?
check mate
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>>681774237
God made Lucifer knowing this would happen, god didn't care made him so he would do it anyway. Gods an asshole and Satan is only doing as he was predestined to do
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>>681765204
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>>681774295
i enjoy the way you write, you wont convert me, but we had this conversation, you're not trying to, its a pity there is not more of a debate going on in here, your knowledge and understanding of religion and the way you put it across to others is a gift, good luck to you in life
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>>681774448
Eh, that's debatable.

God made him with potential.

I am not really fully qualified to talk about evil verses good.

I think Christ was Good.
I think I am evil, trying to be good.
I think you are unsure that you even need to make a choice in the matter.

Does God know the future?

According to his book he is batting quite high.
There are some discrepancies. Most can be overcome with proper definition of the original languages. Which in this modern age we can often do. See some of those books I suggested above.

Satan is an accuser who can only lie and destroy.

God can Destroy or Create.
God can grant eternal life.

Satan can only fall in the lake of fire while pointing at you saying this is all your fault.
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Tonight at work (Domino;s driver, whatup) my hazard switch broke a tab and came out ('96 S10, my W123's driveshaft fucking broke... somehow) so I couldn't get them to turn off. I found a cross in the glove box and used it to wedge the switch. Works like a charm. Thanks Jesus!
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>>681765204
prove me that you are not descended from monkeys.
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>>681773138
>basically just go read the fucking bible
>basically go fuck yourself
I appreciate the reply, but it's just not what I had in mind. I ask such a thing of you for the sake of all of the posters spewing their feeble opinions about this widely revered deity. I get tired of seeing the same circular arguments.

Perhaps it was simply naive of me to think that one pious follower of Christ would just bust in this thread like "Yeah well Jesus said THIS shit right here." and it would be wholesome and compelling and we would actually have to stop and think because this is good stuff at the end of the day and not just superstition and blind faith. No, just dancing around facts, needing to read into things a lot. It's not compelling, engaging or moving in the least.

We live in the twenty first fucking century. I try to give Jesus his time on the soapbox if only for a short while in a shitty /b/ thread. Jesus now has to compete with all of the crazy media we have now. Jesus has to compete with every single other religion that has not faded wholly from memory and every one of their offshoots and branches, each with their own beliefs and offerings and teachings. Many religions run contradictory to Christianity outright, proclaiming their validity with equal fervor. Jesus has to compete with the psychedelic experience, LSD, and primo tryptamines that will leave you believing anything. Jesus has to compete with internet memes, this raging torrent of nonsense and lies and disinformation and mockery and parody and insanity. Jesus has to compete with the attention spans of a new generation with a new technology in a new world.

GIVE

ME

JESUS

QUOTES

For the love of Christ. You have literally nothing else.
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Becuase there is no God, there is only Allah.
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>>681765204
Wi He trust me?
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>>681774946
I don't see Satan as pouty or blamy, also he keeps his word so I wouldn't call him deceitful, again how much free will did HD really have?
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>>681775035
What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?
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>>681775203
He keeps his word?
Not once.

God became a man and died (Horribly).
Satan has not once been willing to do what YOU and God both did. BECOME A MAN!

All lucy has to do to put an end to this malarky is become a man. Just like you did.

You WIN!
God WINS!
Lucy will one day be ashes..
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dying for anyone's sins is less impressive when you know that your father is going to bring you back to life afterwards.
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>>681775277
>What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?

Except Christ may have said it in Aramaic.

מה איש אתה, עם מאה כבשים, אם הוא לאבד את אחד מהם כי לא להשאיר את תשעים ותשעה במדבר ללכת אחרי אשר אבד, עד שהוא מצא אותו?
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>>681765204
Lucifer won us our dignity. Without him, we would still be shuffling around the Garden of Eden with no free will. By tempting Eve with the fruit of Knowledge, he is the Great Liberator.

The Bastard Nazarene, by contrast, is a fraud and a liar. He would have us lured back under God's aegis with false promises of love and forgiveness.

Praise be the Son of the Morning.
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>>681775507
But how can god be so cruel to his creation, and why doesn't he just fix him? He is all powerful right?
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>>681775760
Here here
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>>681775625
It still hurts a lot.
Consider to he probably could have wiped out his tormentors and persecutors, but that would not have fulfilled prophecy..

He still chose to suffer and to die.
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>>681775832
Did he really have a choice though? I mean if he was born to die for our sins than its not like GE could choose to do anything else.
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>>681765204
i can't
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>>681765204
>Prove to me why you should not believe in the fsm.

Fixed.
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>>681775760
Horse pucky.

Lucy did nothing for you.

He just wanted to plant his seed so he would have physical thralls on Earth when his lying ass was finally banished to little more than words on the wind.

Luckily even those thralls can be saved,

Once you are born of the flesh the possibility of eternity is open to you.

Yes anon even to you..

Or you can serve lucy or other masters.

Do you want to guess how many who follow the Pope are gong to hell?
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>>681775761
Brother I do not know the why.

At least not here in the flesh.

Were I God? And that is a big if (And a huge No no.) I would simply have everyone born and then die experience that first breath of air and the last with in moments. I would think that alone would be enough to make most never want to ever harm another living thing.


All I can say is we are here to learn lessons or observe events.
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>>681775980
Nice question..

Does God have a choice?
Do We?

If you do not know who you are?
Yes, yes.
If you do NOT know who you are?
No, no.
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>>681776219
So Satan is just a tool? And after all is said and done he spends eternity in suffering with nothing to show for all his efforts? What a shitty existence. I can't imagine a being so cruel as bring something into existence for the purpose of suffering and being made an example of. Such a being is not worthy of my worship.
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>>681776345
Nigga what?
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>>681765204
>Prove to me why you should not shove up a giant dildo up your asshole every night.
>a didlo which reaches the best spots always and never misses.
>a didlo wich will do anything you want.


maybe start with saying why anyone should
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>>681776482
No he like you is a soul free to choose, but one who has made bad choices.

Except that unlike you he was probably actually in line for the throne. He could have had it all but made bad choices.

As I said above.

You have chosen wisely and are alive and humble enough to learn.

I don't Worship God because I like God.
I Worship him because I believe what Christ said. I love what Christ did, and I pray that God and Christ are one and the same. Because if they are God has changed a lot.

lucy is just the same old liar.
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>benevolent and loving god
>hell
pick one
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>>681776531
What?

You have choices.
You make them every day.

Do you know who YOU are?
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>>681765204
>He who died for our sins.
Not my sins.
When he die I wasn't here.

To love everyone make him a whore.
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>>681777066
Why?

You can pick both if you want to.

I would rather one more than the other.
But, God's will be done, not mine.
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>>681777270
Sure you were a part of the War I mentioned above.
You did not simply pop in to existence the day you were born. You existed before that as a soul, one created long ago. You like most of us simply can not remember it right now.

But we were all a part of that war. And we all had our own Sins. You don't think this is all about apples do you?
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>>681765204
because jesus doesnt lower cholesterol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHMQV-Bluc8
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>>681777160
If I was made by an omnipotent being than I never had any real choice anyway. So either I was or was not created, and god is or isn't just, and and there is or isn't something after death. But when you get down neither side can prove themselves right or the other wrong. That's why I believe it could be but I'm not sure enough either way to say yes or no. I just like Satan as a character, he resonates better with me than Jesus does. More relatable I guess.
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>>681777651
That's too bad.

Because only one of them actually likes or loves you.

I mean I get not understanding God or Christ.
I even get identifying with the underdog.

But today too many want comic books they want to root for the Batman and the Joker.

But again if those two were real they at least were both humans.

Lucy is not now and never will be a human.
He will be cast down again someday.

In his full Angelic form even.

But he will still be a liar.

And he will still never do what YOU and God have done. Lived life in the flesh. Been born into mankind. You now understand pain and suffering the harm of little lies or the cruelty of men with guile.

Be Batman or the Joker.

It makes little difference in the big picture.

But at least you made a choice I guess.
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The bible is the bait that works for thousands of years. Do it bether
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Jesus was an alien, it's so obvious
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>>681778282
No aliens are a demonic lie.

What awaits us is far more and better.
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''And these enemies of mine who were unwilling for me to rule over them, bring them here and slay them in front of me'' -- Jesus Christ (Luke 19:27)
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Jupiter has saved us more times than God has.
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>>681778354
>implying that in a universe that is infinity other life can't exist. Get off you high horse
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>>681778120
What lie dude. Satan always keeps his deals and is honest
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>>681778505
>Luke 19:27
That was Christs last Parable before entering Jerusalem and later being crucified.

To understand you must know who is speaking and to whom.

He was telling the story of a Nobleman who was to inherit a Kingdom. And of his instructions to his Servants who he left in Charge. He gave each of them equal gifts and said go rule my lands while I go and secure Our Kingdom. Now that last was regarding the last servant who did nothing with his gifts but hide them in a cupboard. The ones destroyed after being brought hither would be that Nobleman's people and not Christ's per se, it was after all the Nobleman that was supposed to be speaking.)
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>>681779019
Nope there are no aliens.
Sorry, Just YOU me the other Anons and God.
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>>681779145
And wears a red clothes and carry's a cool trident.

No, he/she IS a beautiful angel though.
You or I would probably be very attracted to him/her. But no nothing but a liar.
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>>681779682
Provide source on the lies bud. If you know your Bible as well as you claim, it should be easy.
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>>681778120
>>681776058
It's kind of funny seeing you refer to the devil as "Lucy". I know Lucy as a slang term for LSD. I'll tell you pal, lucy has taught me a hell of a lot more about the nature of our existence than going to catholic and sunday school ever did.

Simple honest to god little insights. We are sunlight and water and earth. Every person is an existence more or less as you are, they all matter, every single one, you and me and everyone else. We are here for a reason, I still don't know what, maybe we are not meant to know THE reason, maybe we are meant to come up with our own reasons. I believe absolutely that there is no reason to fear death. I don't buy your petty gods who condemn unfairly. Beyond is simply something else, that which is utterly beyond imagining, something exactly as weirdly specific as being a human in a global society with the internet and weird porn, just another thing. I do not think for one second that these things are not all tremendous mysteries, and I have absolutely no clue about them for sure. JUST. THINK.

Theres no game being played in the sky based on petty rules. ITS ALL HERE, ON YOU, TO DO THE RIGHT THING, RIGHT NOW.
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>>681779782
Look above in the thread.

I provided sources..

If you would like to be more specific?

Who's lies am I being asked about again?

Lucy's?

He told Adam and Eve they would not get in trouble. He has mislead mankind more often than not.

What do you want me to show you is a lie?
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>>681765204
show me flawless epistemological proof that anything at all and ok
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Jesus here. Ask me anything.
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>>681780448
yo, you real bro?
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>>681780558
Yea, My Child. I am that I am.
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>>681780067
I have not tried LSD,

I use the feminine term of Lucifer to piss him off and to let him know how much contempt I hold for him.

I don't object to your Earthy view.

I am doing the right thing.
I am anonymously revealing truths that many men do not want you to know.

You think for some reason that I am here promoting religion.

I am not.

But since the topic came up?

I support Christ and his teachings.
I believe there are others who have taught similarly. But so Far Christ is the one I understand. I do not accuse others for choosing to follow other teachings. I simply debate what I know and understand.

I am no expert on Hindu, Buddhist or many other Eastern philosophies. I do not claim to teach any law or scripture that applies to those that do.

But all of us will be given a chance to make an informed decision once we are done here playing at this uninformed one.
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>>681780601
Popeye is that you?
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>>681765662
"Bitches aint shit but hoes and tricks"
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Why do you care about a book that much?
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>>681780774
Nea, My child. 14And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
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>>681779513
God is an alien too.
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>>681781121
Sorry /b/rother. I will stick to calling you Popeye.

I love that verse and I love Christ.

But you Sir are NOT Christ.

Good morning.
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>>681781470
What would prove to you that I was Him?
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>>681781242
Nope.

Listen I am going to be very plain and then I am off to bed.

If during all of your days you have left..
any super natural being, or human, claims to be God, Christ, or an Alien? DO NOT BELIEVE IT! It is a liar..

As long as you can pinch an inch of flesh you will not meet any of them. EVER!

>>681781594
Nothing.. See above.
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>>681781698
If your Messiah can no longer take form, what separates you from the Pharisee who does not believe neither whatsoever?
אם משיחך עדיין לא יכול להתגשם, מה ההבדל בינך לבין הפרושי, שאינו מאמין באף דבר חוץ ממך?
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>>681765204
do you even get what he was really trying to say when he said he was the son of god, were all the same, be like me, and then died on our behalf?
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>>681782034
הבטחתו אלינו אמונתי ההבטחה.
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>>681765204
Prove to me why you should.

He died to a bloodthirsty tyrannical god as a human sacrifice.

Don't care if that faggot loves me, his dad is not getting my worship.

Bring back the old gods!
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>>681782286
follow up: there was nothing divine about him. just enlightened
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>>681782538
aww yea, lik that buddah goi
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>>681782323
טוב, אבל כשהוא בא אליך, אם אתה לא מכירו, מי אתה? חוץ מצאן מרעיתו. צורך להבין שהדבר, הוא אלהים, והדבר לבש בשר.
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http://youtu.be/klF-vKy4qpw
DEUS VULT!
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>>681782323
Translation: good, but when He comes to you, insomuch as you do not recognize Him, what then are you? Something other than the flock of His pasture. It is necessary to understand that the Word is God, and the Word was made flesh!
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>>681765204
Forget about that jesus-pasta.
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What about them?
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>>681783914
I agree. Kill your idols.
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>>681784453
That's the only way to evolve yourself.
Start becoming a beautiful butterfly.
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God kill more people in bible than devil
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>>681773681
In Christianism, God is the combination of 3 entities, Jesus being one. So, yeah, believing in Jesus kinda means believing in God.
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>>681765204

I'm agnosthic and i say that you should belive in jesus christ.
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>>681784985
Häää??? Why that?
Of course he once hit that planet. But I don't think, you can say: I believe in Jesus without buying the rest of the package.
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>>681765204
The message is more important than the messenger, thats why im not a christian anymore
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You're more than entitled to believe what you want. Just keep it to yourself
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>>681785584
>/r/4chan
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>>681774946
If Good is omniscient and omnipotent, then yes, he can see the future. That means he creates everything and knows exactly how it will end. The whole point of bringing this up is to show the contradiction of free will and an omnipotent/omniscient creator. You can't have both.
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>>681765204
>Prove to me why you should not believe in Jesus Christ.

because his divinity was only agreed upon by the Council of Nicea, 300 years after his death, and was done by a show of hands.

"hand up if that guy was god!"
"the ayes have it!"

A vote. By a bunch of men. not god, not divine "truth", just men, 300 years after the fact.

why would I "trust in god" when all it is was a bunch of men making a choice to include worship of the figure they never met?
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>>681765204
I am Jesus so yes believe in me.
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>>681786252
God* fucking autocorrect.
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>>681765295
If he doesn't convert you, then he ain't really going to heaven.
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