Explain why taxes are okay.
Trick question. they're not.
Taxes are the cost of running a civilized society. They pay for roads, education, transportation, and tons of other shit.
>>680976655
Infrastructure
>>680977163
/thread
If you disagree, then shut off your computer and go live off the land and stop living on land we fucking pay to keep safe and kept up.
Taxes are necessary but a lot of it is being used for useless shit (the war on drugs for example) I personally believe we should have low taxes and have strict power to where it goes.
In Canada any money you get from inheritance or lottery winnings isn't taxed.
>>680976655
If i break my leg i dont have to spend all my life savings on fixing it.
Then go live in the woods without any roads, electricity, public schooling, libraries and everything else that taxes pay for.
Fuckface idiot kid, how old are you?
>>680977736
Thats the shittyest middle finger ive ever seen.
You know econ 101 isn't the only course the economics department at your school taught right?
This is like a high schooler saying cubic equations are unsolvable just because their math class didn't mention them.
The simplified supply/demand you learn in a first econ course and its disruption by taxes is a simplified picture that doesn't account for the long run or human nature, nor does it care for humanitarianism.
>>680977955
>shittyest
That's the shittiest "shittiest" I've ever seen.
>>680977163
>>680977597
>muh socialism
>>680977163
>>680977597
>>680977736
fuck off, commie fags
>>680976655
>Trick question. they're not.
That's not a question you fucking nigger.
>>680976655
>>680978317
weak bait
but even still it's frightening to know many people actually are this dumb.
an hero plz OP
>>680976655
Your extremely stupid. Please don't procreate. Don't spread your RETARTED seed
>>680977163
Are you implying that those things wouldn't exist without appropriation under threat of violence?
>>680977597
Good advice. Now, tell it to all of the lazy moochers who not only contribute nothing, but demand to be supported by the government. Nigger./thread
>>680977163
Just because some taxes are necessary and good, that does not mean that more taxes is always better. The fact that you can run a nation with the government consuming 25% of all economic output does not at all mean that taxing 100% would be 4 times as good. There is a point at which those running the government will cross over the boundary between serving the public, and plundering the public.
"Taxation without representation" is in full effect. Tax us for corn so farmers can subsidize it.
Then tax us for sugary drinks, which have...HFCS. double taxing the citizens.
Tax is bull shit. I show the government where my money goes, yet, I don't see where my tax $ go.
Fuck this shit. I'm going to go help the kurds and kill isis. Humanitarian aid.
>>680978115
A simpler (and kinder) response than I'd have given,
but it's as good a /thread moment as we're going to get.
Complaining that taxes exist in a civilized society is as
ignorant of the basic principles of societal infrastructure as
it is just pure juvenile whining.
Grow up, OP. Or leave your home, move out to the mountains,
and live in the woods. Just make sure not to drive on any
of those public roads. You wouldn't want to support anything
made via taxation.
>>680980266
goes to birth control, abortions, government housing, walfare, new jordons, and iphone.
>>680976655
This picture is fucking retarded. The amounts don't add up.
He should be receiving $902,932.04, not owing $1.98.
Over taxation like right is not. But we do need street lights, hospitals, fire protection, and law enforcement.
If politicians have enough money to give away to different countries, they're taking too much money from you
>>680981023
Does this surprise you? Consider what the OP (and pic) are complaining about.
Math likely isn't their strong suit...
>>680979453
Actually faggot more of the taxes pay for tax breaks that rich people and tax returns multinational corporations get back from the government in the billions than the poor get off welfare. Ever heard of corporate welfare? Keep hating the poor you fucking sheep. You're playing right into the hands of the rich and powerful. Fucking cuckservatives.
>>680981023
>autism
>>680976655
Is this nigga for real
>>680981023
Basic Math:
OP = Fag
>>680979806
This tbqhf. An example is education, we pay a shitload toward education yet are below standard. more money isn't gunna solve this.
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/rich-countries/the-10-nations-that-spend-the-most-on-their-students/?view=all
MEMESOURCE
taxes are a way for individuals to pool their money in order to buy, in bulk, the things we all need.
taxation becomes a problem when the money is spent on things the people being taxed do not want or need, for example drug prohibition.
You canbuy a hell of a lot more with one $50,000,000 transaction than you can with one million $50 transactions.
>>680976655
Taxes are OK proportionally to the benefit you get.
Free public healthcare, very good public services, excellent public transportation, and so on, have a cost.
Shitty public services, shitty public transportation, paid healthcare ---> your taxes are wasted in some USrael illegal activity.
In my country the tax on cigarettes is fucking 80%,so the cigarettes that used to cost 1$ 20 years ago cost 5$ today and thats just fucking bullshit. They just raised the tax because they knew the people would contunie buying it,since you know,its fucking cigarettes you dont just stop buying
There's a paradise with no taxes. It's called Somalia. Bon voyage.
>>680976655
Ironically, in real life people who inherit 3 million dollars keep almost all if it due to successful right wing efforts to stop what they call the "death tax". Whereas if I actually work to make 3 million, its taxed at a much higher rate (as income).
Inheritance is literally winning the lottery of lucky birth. It should be taxed.
>>680976655
The fuck is wrong with that bill. Apparently someone can't do math as he would have over $900,000 left even after all the taxes and fees.
>>680981937
Nope, you're stupid.
>>680982585
>italian detect----->no, no, 6.20€ is way more than 5$ ---> it's not italian
>>680977731
you are talking to murricans, they pay taxes and still have to spend their savings fixing their broken leg
>>680982740
no, no, there is no $200,000
>>680982727
But someone else already worked and got taxed to earn the money that's being inherited you thieving communist faggot
>>680982727
in my country you have to paid a shitload of taxes for inhewritance. If you get a big house, you better have money to pay 30% of its value, or you are fucked
Explain how hotel tax or parking tax builds my roads, faggot.
I'm positive there is a Bernie fag in here, how do you feel about the fact that Bernie "the redistribution of the wealth" sanders only paid 13.5% in taxes in 2014?
>>680976655
Economy of scale
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>>680983120
Thats true for all money dumbass. My store sells TVs, all the TV buyers already worked and paid taxes on their money but I obviously have to pay taxes on that money again when they give it to me. Why is it different when I inherit their money instead?
>>680983362
To add to that, Senators make over six figures a year. In 2014 my military salary was only $26,000 and I paid around 13% in taxes
>>680982727
>Inheritance is literally winning the lottery of lucky birth.
So is being born with innate intelligence, looks, physical prowess, general good health, and other traits. Sorry, fucko, you're not a special snowflake and nobody owes you a fucking thing just because you are the under-man.
Perhaps with a proper eugenics policy in place the future will be rid of your kind and full of those who actually contribute to civilization and improve the lot of the future of humanity instead.
tl:dr "Rich" people are greedy for wanting to pass along what they've earned to their children, but you are NOT greedy for wanting the government to steal their wealth to shower you with toys and free shit for which you did not work.
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>>680983297
Thats too bad, there are ways to deal with that though e.g. like capital gains (you only pay the tax when you actually sell)
>>680977163
What makes you entitled to half my salary you filthy commie
>>680983709
and you got free room, board and among the best healthcare.
You get paid what you're worth. It takes a lot of effort and time to become a Senator. It takes minutes to go down to your recruiter and sign your life over to them.
>>680983858
Stupid argument. If i use my innate intelligence, good looks, other gifts etc. to make a living then I SHOULD PAY INCOME TAX ON THAT JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES
What is the point of taxing inheritance money? That money has already been taxed by the government before it was given. The person who earned the money was required to pay taxes on it. Why should the money be taxed twice?
>>680984246
...so if i spend it, the guy i spend it on shouldnt have to pay taxes because it was "already taxed"?
None of you have jobs so it's not like you're paying taxes anyways. Quit your bitching.
Nobody likes being taxed. Nobody likes seeing money taken from them that they earned. But you need to think of it as paying for a service. You are paying the government to maintain the roads that bring you to work every day, to make sure utilities companies aren't taken advantage of you so you pay a fair price for water, electricity etc, to make sure you are protected from the enemies of this country, and numerous other services people just take for granted every day. Without taxes, a government would have to function like a business and exploit their citizens for profit. You wouldn't like living in such a society.
>>680984496
You don't need half the salary of your population to do it
>>680984173
Even with room and board and medical that is still only brings the total to $46,000. And your dumbass missed the point, there are these things called tax brackets. Why would I who made roughly 1/5 of what Bernie panders made pay as much in taxes?
>>680984398
That is now what I am talking about. You have to pay a tax when receiving money in an inheritance. It is called an Inheritance Tax. They tax you for simply receiving the money from the giver of the inheritance.
>>680984658
Not*
>>680984178
>I SHOULD PAY INCOME TAX ON THAT
Why?
Do you not believe that trading your time/effort/abilities for a fair wage is a right? If it is a right why would the state have the authority to tax that right? They cannot tax the ability to vote or to practice religion (because they are rights).
Why do you feel that others are entitled to the fruits of your labor?
Of course this is all hypothetical. It's likely that you are unemployable and pay little to no taxes or even receive state support/subsidies. You probably never willingly part with a dime to help those "less fortunate", and your calls for confiscation of wealth amount only to moral preening. "Gimme gimme gimme" thinly disguised as benevolence.
You Marxists are all hypocrites.
>>680984587
nobody does that except socialist countries. The US tax rate is very generous compared to most european countries. I get about half my salary taken in taxes since I moved to germany, and on top of that I have to pay a couple hundred more a month for health insurance than back in the US.
The only people with a right to complain about taxes are people living in socialist regimes.
At least in the US, federal inheritance tax wouldn't even apply. You would have to transfer $5,450,000 before the tax even applies, and that is on the money above that amount.
https://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Estate-Tax
>>680976655
3,000,000.00 - 2,000,000.00 - 52,011.35 - 18,796.92 - 5,748.20 - 4,334.04 - 6,421.16 =
Balance: 912688.33
Attorney fee 9,756.29
Total what you get = 902932.04
whoever have made that drawing is bad as shit in math
>>680984658
Yes, you are getting income that you didnt actually do any work for. So why shouldnt it be taxed at least as much as the income that you DID work for?
>>680984613
that's still pretty fucking good considering you don't need an education or any skills really besides being able to do what you're told.
>>680977705
Is Canada even real?
>>680976655
I like things like schools and roads so, No I do not have a problem with paying taxes, for the most part.
>>680977163
Yeah and sacrifices were the price of having a sun
>>680976655
no inheritance tax in canada,
fucking love that.
>>680985028
that's not even close to a fair comparison. Sacrifices to "gods" and such had no tangible benefits. They didn't do shit, it was just ritualized murder. On the other hand, you can see the benefits from paying taxes around you every single day.
>>680984760
WTF are you talking about entitled. I make an above average salary and I pay plenty in taxes. I live in NY where taxes are higher.
If you get inheritance money for free and dont even work, just pay your fucking taxes on it just like I do. Im not "entitled" to your money, but why are non-working trust fund kids entitled to mine?