Reasonable opinion thread.
>>Isreal/Palestine is a touchy subject but a two-state solution with an emphasis on human rights and progressive leaders is a good place to start. (See: Netanyahu is a douchelord)
>>Capitalism is all well and good, but companies becoming established and forcing the government to eliminate competition (I.E. What the big taxi companies tried to do to Uber) is bullshit.
>>Islam is just as fucked up as any other religion and extremist attacks are just what happens when politicians in the middle east use religion to brainwash kids. I guarantee you not ONE high level muslim politician believes his own bullshit.
>>Minimum wage did not keep up with inflation and needs to be raised.
>>If the government can bailout the big banks, who knowingly broke the law, for $700 BILLION dollars, they can probably provide free community college.
>>Social justice warriors are bullshit and are distracting from actual race and gender issues. Someone dressing up as a native american chief for Halloween is not a real problem, black men being shot by police for minor crimes is.
>>Religion shouldn't really have any place in politics.
>>Immigrants who assimilate into the culture are fine, but you need to speak the language and stop bitching about how superior your culture is. Example is Muslims in the U.K. wanting Sharia law. You left Dumbfuckistan for a reason.
Moar?
>>680882127
i thought i was on pol again for a second
pls let me have my shit non serious shitposting board, onii-chan
>>680882334
/pol/ is full of nazis and hiveminds. One type of person goes on /pol/
However, many types of people go on /b/
Israelifag here. a two state solution isn't as simple as you think. because of both sides.
>>680882710
I'm aware of this. TBQH both sides have committed egregious human rights violations. I may have communicated poorly. I meant that if both sides could get progressive leadership, eventually working towards a two state solution is ideal.
>>680882127
> Two dif religions that hate each other.
> peace
>>680882127
i actually agree 100% with this.
holy shit i didnt think people like you were on 4chan.
>>680883135
yeah, unfortunaly we are both full of brainless monkeys. in israel we at least get the chance of picking a leader tho which is nice. too bad that these idiots keep picking bibi (nethanyahu, whatever)
>>680882127
I agree.
>>680882127
The only reasonable opinion is to destroy israel duh
>>680882127
I agree with your reasonable opinions.
>>680884080
I agree with your opinion as well.
I feel that due to the extreme polarization of society on political issues politicians are forced to represent ridiculous positions as it no longer pays off to have reasonable views.
>>680884738
im not op btw
>>680883597
Captain Moderate, at your service.
>>680883656
Exactly. I won't claim to be very well versed in Isreal's last election, but I work with a lot of older Jewish people and what I gathered was that Nethanyahu was very popular among older people and Herzog was favored by the younger folk. Is that accurate?
>>680883818
>>680884080
>>680884738
Maybe we should form a political party
>>680882127
So ... Capitalism is all well and good, and socialism sucks? Because when government gets involved in industry that's called socialism, when government is not involved at all, it's called capitalism.
>>680882127
>companies becoming established and forcing the government to eliminate competition (I.E. What the big taxi companies tried to do to Uber) is bullshit.
what does this have to do with any capitalism but crony capitalism
>black men being shot by police for minor crimes is.
back to tumblr, retard.
>>680882127
Wow that felt good to read. Is this 4chan?
>>680886268
balance is the key.
>>680886585
>caring about black people is for retarded sjws
wow so edgy
>>680886890
>making a big deal out of nothing is for retards such as yourself
>edgy XD
back to tumblr, cancer.
>>680886084
Bernie has said just about all of those things
>>680887060
easy there. sorry i forgot my trigger warning.
>>680887145
in addition to some of the dumbest shit to ever be heard
>>680886084
We should. The sheer number of crazies in the US boggles the mind.
Absolute retards are on both sides of the political spectrum, but the conservitards are way worse.
>>680882127
no, not really OP.
I think you have proven yourself more of an asshole than anyone else on /b/.
good night and fuck off.
>>680887517
you havent seen some of the feminists i have
>>680886084
Not really. People vote for nethanyahu as a default choice. all of the nominees are pretty retarded. nethanyahu, herzog, benet (mostly has good points but he's religious so nty, btw he is now the minister of education which is fucking hilarious), and honestly the rest aren't even worth mentioning. point is this is a country of retard ran by retards and if someone is saying otherwise he is seriously living under a rock or too proud to face the facts.
>>680887713
what i meant by this is that there are great examples of crazies in both camps
>>680887517
found the asshole.
>>680887678
you are whats wrong with basically everything.
>an hero pls
>>680888045
aww poor baby can't handle anyone disagreeing with you?
>>680887713
Probably not. But at least most people on the left believe that evolution through natural selection is real.
>>680887939
Nice argument.
>>680888045
>>680887939
woah, woah. lets keep it REASONABLE friendos. no need for a derailing when it was going so well
>>680888304
fuck off asshole.
>>680888241
another dick face looking for an argument.
>>680887939
>>680887713
Third wave feminists are awful.
The regressive left is horrible, too.
Authoritarianism needs to be fought at every level and in every form (both right and left).
lol. some mad roasts going on ITT. ayy lmao
>>680882127
I wish there were more people like you OP
We need a Moderate Party
>>680888728
when you're ready to bleed let me know.
>>680888728
agree with everything besides pic
>>680882127
>Islam
I'd probably put that as more fucked up than other religions at this point in time, more war fought in it's name, more of a divide between it and other religions, the non radicals are very insular, using their religion to define themselves.
>>680882127
I agree with these points
>>680888503
Should I have said, "you said nothing of substance, please address what I wrote rather than name calling."
>>680889047
I didn't mean to post that pic.
>>680888858
you call that moderate?
>>680889248
sorry pussy.
>>680889157
Id say its other historical factors in the region mainly. The religion is arbitrary. Hell I could imagine europe being muslim with the middle east being christian and justifying terrorism and war with holy crusades.
>>680889336
Try saying something that actually has value.
>>680886268
See
>>680886657
>>680886585
This is the system we have in the U.S.
Also, I've seen institutional racism first hand. It does exist. Not to mention my Uncle, who is now a local Sheriff's deputy, was a member of the KKK for years. This stuff does happen. Not EVERY police killing you see on TV is unjustified, but some of them are, and it's unacceptable.
>>680886602
As far as I know
>>680887517
Too far either way is no good. I would argue one of the main problems with the Republican party is the emphasis on the Christian religion.
>>680887678
Well, that's just like, your opinion. Man.
>>680887713
These people are just as bad as the worst conservatives imo.
>>680887799
Hmm, interesting. Thanks for the point of view!
>>680888241
I think the same could be said of any group, is the thing. Look at Scotland with the Protestants and the Catholics, and that's just over comparatively small differences.
>>680888304
I agree, but it's 4chan. That's what makes this place so great, you can have a very reasonable discussion going on, and then have someone run through posting scat porn or seriously arguing the merits of National Socialism. You can see what people REALLY think.
>>680889648
this thread has no value.
>>680889648
Its really none of my business, but I think you may have been baited...
>>680889820
Probably.
>>680889719
I like you.
>>680889761
What does have value?
>>680890114
anything you give value.
I think its a shame that people will hide behind words like liberal, socialist, capitalist or conservative. It just increases the "Im in camp xyz and all other camps suck" mentality. Saying things like "I agree with conservatives" says very little about your actual opinions because there are such a broad spectrum of positions that people might call conservative.
good thread
>buying indie games is just cheap boring shit with little imagination
>console titles are generally overratted and not worth 60
>>680890793
hmm...
>>680890729
value is a collective administration not individual.
>>680890729
So, I say the thread has value, so it does.
Also, if the ideas espoused by the reasonable people in the thread reach just one more person, it has value. Truth has value, I think.
>>680890729
If i really like my couch does that mean i can sell it on ebay for millions of dollars? clearly your reasoning is flawed.
>>680890735
this is a good explanation for every response I have posted in this thread and the basis for my opinion of OP.
>>680891085
you think too much of yourself.
>>680890915
PC gaming is absolute trash
Raise minimum wage? Minimum wage is shit because the skills aren't worth much. Get an education or learn a trade if you want more money. Stop being a Liberal cuck.
>>680891333
this.
>>680891149
if you think your couch is worth a million dollars. Someone else might not value it that much.
>>680891085
I was responding literally to the other poster:
>>680890729
>anything you give value.
>>680891171
dont know who you say you are.
Im the guy from:
>>680889570
>>680889047
>>680887713
>>680887927
>>680887475
>>680886657
>>680884738
>>680883597
>>680890735
>>680889820
>>680891333
I find it funny that most people working for minimum wage rack up thousands in debt cmpared to the pittance wageslavery allowance they make kek
have fun paying for gas and car insurance doing part time mcwork
>>680891333
>>680891406
Please explain who works the minimum wage job if every single person was to go to college or learn a trade. Those positions still need to be filled, and don't say students because that's not a viable option for every low wage position.
>>680891826
childern
>>680891288
>>680891526
Wrong response.
I've got one
>with a leading party nominee like Trump, there has never been a more embarrassing time in America's history to be a Republican that doesn't have their head up their ass.
>and with Cruz's economic plan giving a 29% tax cut to the super wealthy, we're fresh out of strong Republican candidates that aren't lining the multi billionaire's pockets
>>680891929
Good spelling.
>>680892005
Plus, he's a young earth creationist.
>>680891584
this is another bait/bash thread. the kind that are killing this board.
>>680891929
Childern fall under students unless you're talking particularly young kids and I don't really want those snot nosed little fucks making my burgers.
>>680892005
Rand Paul is fine
>>680892141
got eem
>>680891964
wrong to you little boy.
>>680892128
Oh god you've gotta be shitting me, is that true?
We're struggling tenough as it is to get congressmen on board with 7th grade science
>>680891826
I started at minimum wage. wanna try that again of just shut the fuck up.
>>680891826
This. Im tired of people having the "anyone can be a millionaire if he really tries" mentality. Someone needs to do the dirty work and I dont see why mcdonalds workers shouldnt be given a chance to lead reasonable lives, with the added bonus of reducing crime.
>>680892173
Rand Paul is gone
>>680892261
I've slowly realized that most of the retarded bullshit on websites like 4chan and reddit are the postings of high and drunk people, which is why most posts are utterly infantile and retarded.
>>680892405
well you can be a millionaire if you really tried anon.
>>680892405
let me guess, moronic liberal?
>>680891826
If nobody will work because everyone has skills then the industry may disappear. Why aren't students a viable option? Get enough part timers in a college area you can fill any schedule.
>>680892627
nah, just moronic
>>680892559
your meme also refers to maturing and growing up.
>>680892758
you are a little too smart to be a moron.
>>680892387
Maybe I'm just particularly tired or stupid but I don't exactly get how that either answers or nullifies my statement.
>>680892613
but everyone cant
>>680882127
i like you Op, it's nice to know a person like you is browsing the same board as me. All the hate is so loud.
war is raged on behalf of god by literally every religion, even shaolin buddhist monks were revolutionary fighters. these idiots seem to think islam is the only religion to ever do such a thing
>>680892367
Yeah, not quite on the level of Ben Carson, but pretty bad.
It's bad enough denying the reality of anthopogenic global warming, but also evolution.
Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution is a 1973 essay by a Russian Orthodox Christian is something everyone needs to read. The central point is incontrovertibly true.
>>680892920
oh stoppit yu
>>680893011
Not everyone can be the best and there's nothing wrong with that.
>>680892638
>>680892405
>>680891693
>>680891826
Look, how about this: America ranks 13th in the world for people who have college degrees between ages 25-34. We're at around 44%. The highest ranking country is at around 65%. There is no fucking way we could ever get 100%, stop talking as if everyone can get a college degree.
But what if we increased our own college graduates by 50%? We'd be a little ahead of the current first place, our country would flourish, and there'd be fucking plenty of pizza delivery bitches.
Creating more college graduates WILL NOT implode the country.
>>680892973
you truly don't understand life. like I said I started at minimum wage, so did my mother.
if you're looking for instant gratification you're not going to find it.
its time for your generation to put on the yoke of oppression. I suggest you do so.
>>680882127
What the fuck are you doing on 4chan? Don't you have a job or social life to tend to?
Glad to see not everyone on here are a bunch of faggots trying to be the edgiest klansman,
>>680892638
There are a lot of low wage industries that aren't just gonna disappear. Students obviously can work and go to school but implying that ALL minimum wage/low wage positions can be filled by students is ridiculous.
People focus on minimum wage, but what about the full time factory/plant positions that literally cannot be filled by a full time student that only pay 8-10 dollars an hour? What about rural areas that just don't particularly have high paying jobs?
>>680893206
yes, but does that mean that legislation should be set up so that those who cant have difficulty leading respectable lives?
>>680893138
he is a brain surgeon. what are you?
>>680893527
I think you are thinking too much.
The collapse of the Twin Towers was a controlled demolition.
After the dust cloud from the North Tower settled, arsonists snuck into WTC 7 and set fires on certain floors.
A person impersonating an engineer from the Office of Emergency Management went around lying to the NYPD fire chiefs that WTC 7 was structurally unsound and was going to collapse at 5 or 6 PM. This was done to prevent firefighters from figuring out a way to extinguish the fires.
At 5:22 PM, WTC 7 collapsed in a controlled demolition.
>>680893366
2 out of the 12 college grads that I personally know are unemployed or underemployed.
so we should just keep making more.
>>680893590
Data scientist/statistician.
He's a prime example of compartmentalization. If you're open minded, you should check out "the Authoritarians" by Bob Altemeyer. It's a free eBook that you can find at http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
It's pretty illuminating.
>>680893732
cut it out, nobody wants to bite your shitty bait. seriously do you just bait every thread you see? is your depth of lies so great you dont even know who you are anymore?
>>680893732
sure it did. are you an engineer?
>>680893891
Are you going to make the claim that having a college degree doesn't increase your chance of making more money over your lifetime?
Because you should just shove your keyboard up your ass right now if you think you can win that argument
>>680894078
no , sorry I won't. if your brain won't function you're useless. no matter what you are.
>>680893366
>Get an education and you won't be in poverty
>There's no feasible way for everyone to get an education
And this is exactly why the minimum wage needs to be higher.
>>680894315
I see I found an asshole. one who can't comprehend to boot.
tell me why my tax dollars should be wasted on you?
>>680894399
>>680893366
Agreed
>>680894128
No, but I don't believe in miracles. The belief in psychic powers is required for the official story of structural failure.
FDNY Chief Peter Hayden casually mentioned at least a couple of times that an engineer told him that WTC 7 was going to collapse at "5 or 6 PM". The way he put it, "He was pretty much right on the money because it came down 5 hours later, at around 5 PM".
That engineers name is lost to history.
Yeah, sorry. Not buying it. That's foreknowledge.
>>680894399
how? your argument is dull.
>>680894672
stop posting.
>>680893386
Everyone has to work their way up but there are still low paying positions that need to be fucking filled regardless.
>>680894335
I agree with the the useless brains claim.
Unless, of course, you're claiming that my brain doesn't work. If so, you a fool. Right Wing Authoritarianism (carried largely by religion) will be the death of Western liberal democracy. If so, there will have been no greater crime against humanity.
>>680891333
>Get an education or learn a trade if you want more money.
Right, it's always easier said than done.
It seems fair that if they (the lower class) want to be wealthier/more successful, they should simply dedicate themselves to higher education to do so.
If they choose not to, then they deserve the effects of low minimum wage.
But, do you know who doesn't deserve this? Their children.
Their children did not choose to be born into this family, nor did they decide that their parents wouldn't graduate college.
It might seem wrong to favor these children over others, but I'd like to remind you that "What is fair, is not always equal"
>>680894399
it definitely could be a little higher, economical stimulation shit
i think oregon has a bill sitting, trying to raise it to $15. i dont know if its gone through but if it does id like too see how that turns out
>>680894843
your stupidity is showing. lets add irrational fear too.
>>680882127
not understanding that Uber is forcing the gov't to get rid of taxis as competition by sidestepping the law forcing gov't to keep and not change the existing taxi laws so taxi's are kept at a gov't mandated disadvantage
>>680893490
>They're going to have to pay more if nobody will work for what they're paying because they can get employment from a higher paying alternative. That's how the free market works.
>>680894829
man its the same old shit with you people.
life's hard get a helmet
>>680894753
It's all true. Chief Peter Hayden said it on BBC's program on WTC 7, and again he was quoted in a 2013 court document for insurance disputes relating to it's collapse.
Psychic powers, people. The official story requires it. No human being can judge the exact hour of when a skyscraper will collapse from fires, let alone the fact that such a thing has never happened before in history.
If there is ever a new investigation, they should try to find out who the psychic engineer is.
>>680894563
Your tax dollars are ALREADY spent on me. And mine are spent on you.
Trying to paint this as "why should my money be taken and just handed over to people who didn't earn it" is a false equivalency.
How about you loosen your thong and accept that you're going to pay taxes for the rest of your life?
And while you're at it, realize that a smarter and more educated populace helps everyone.
>>680895032
Further proof that it is impossible to have a reasonable discourse with a right wing authoritarian. Address the substance of the argument instead of flinging personal insults and ad hominem.
>>680895254
You're a fool. Try getting a degree in engineering before you pollute the web with your retardation.
>>680895047
curious, do uber driveers have to pass drug screenings and have chauffeurs licenses?
>>680895254
so you believe the boob tube.
>>680894857
They should have made the choice not to have children if they knew it wasn't financially possible to properly support them. Why should others pay for their mistakes?
>>680895254
dude really i think youve been told by 3 posters to give it up. you arent gonna convince anyone here. and even if its true, what the fuck does it even matter? its like jfk consipracy, sure maybe some shady shit went down. but it dont fucking matter. media writes history, not you
>>680894675
I don't care how fucking dull the argument is, it's pretty goddamn clear. If it's mathematically impossible for everyone to get an education you can't just tell everyone to get an education if they want a better job.
>>680895388
how much do you pay in real estate taxes?
>>680895423
Do you think there's nothing fishy about some anonymous engineer telling the fire chiefs, at 1 pm or before, that WTC 7 would collapse at "5 or 6 PM", and then it collapses at 5:22 PM?
Foreknowledge. You don't even need to debate the technical aspects of WTC 7's collapse after that bombshell. The official version requires the belief in psychic abilities.
>>680895423
you're funny.
>>680895767
Post a source or shove your keyboard up your ass.
>>680895615
or have the ability to raise them properly.
As long as robots havent automated all production, people will have to work in factories and fast food restaurants. Even if we forced everyone to get a university degree, that wouldnt change. Jobs arent created just because more people have studied in a particular sector. If every one was an albert einstein there would just be a lot more albert einsreins working in mcdonalds. If your only argument not to raise minimum wage is because the people working in those jobs arent trying hard enough, I would try to find some better reasons, because even in a society that is a perfect meritocracy where everyone tries as hard as they can to achieve their best burgers will not serve themselves.
>>680895686
you also have anger issues.
>>680895232
Jesus Christ are you fucking retarded? You keep speaking but you're saying nothing. Again, who does the grunt work if everyone goes out and gets an education/learns a skill?
>>680895767
Not really. A good or lucky guess does not a conspiracy make.
I'm really interested in what those 28 redacted pages of the 9/11 report says.
>>680895800
How so?
>>680882127
>>>Minimum wage did not keep up with inflation and needs to be raised.
deflation by 2030 and ignore uprising until then
any sign of nuiscence just lax pot/prohibition enforcement.cake
>>680895982
You must be new here.
>>680895730
Explain why you shouldn't have to pay your fair share and maybe I'll tell you
>>680896268
>>680882127
>What the big taxi companies tried to do to Uber) is bullshit.
Uber is a criminal organization.
These cocksuckers aren't licensed OR insured.
It would be like if I decided to cook dinner for the general public, in my home, but I said "I'm not REALLY a restaurant, you can't hold me to the same health code regulations".
>Islam is just as fucked up as any other religion
Wrong. It's far more fucked up than Buddhism, for instance.
>black men being shot by police for minor crimes is.
White men (and black) are frequently shot for posing a serious threat to police.
Name ONE man (of any color) shot by the cops for committing a minor crime.
>Moar?
Christ, no, Opie.
>>680895971
every millennial seems to think a college education is a must have.
most responses are purely monetary related. they want to be "set for life" when in fact many are unemployed and living at home relying on their parents to pay the bill.
The holocaust never happened
Niggers are inferior
Liberals should be gassed
Bronies are crimes against humanity
All feminism is bad, there was never a good feminist.
>>680896268
I've been here since 2003.
>>680896454
That's all well and good but if even if everyone becomes a fucking Spartan you still need someone to clean the Taco Bell bathroom.
>>680896085
try adding a few more years kid.
>>680895506
>curious, do uber driveers have to pass drug screenings and have chauffeurs licenses?
No drug screenings, and they don' have to have ANY license.
Shit's 100% illegal almost everywhere.
>>680896472
I think theres nothing wrong with everyone trying to achieve their best (except for the stress it puts people in but thats another topic), I just think that those who dont make it shouldnt have to settle for ridiculous minimum wages.
>>680896708
robots, or mexicans!
>>680895889
"We were concerned of the possibility of collapse of the building. And we had a discussion with one particular engineer there, and we asked him, if we allowed it to burn could we anticipate a collapse, and if so, how soon?” The engineer apparently predicts correctly that WTC 7 will collapse and also the time it will take before it comes down. As Hayden will continue: “And it turned out that he was pretty much right on the money, that he said, ‘In its current state, you have about five hours.’”
-Peter Hayden - BBC, The Conspiracy Files: The Third Tower
"We posed to him the question that considering the structural damage that was obvious to the – to the building on the southwest corner, and the amount of fire damage that was occurring within
the building, could we anticipate a collapse and if so, when. He said yes and he gave an approximate time of five to six hours,
which was pretty much right on the money because the building collapsed about 5 o’clock that afternoon."
-Peter Hayden- 2013 court document, Aegis Insurance Services, Inc. v. 7 World Trade Center Company, L.P.
"Someone from the Office of Emergency Management told us that this building was in serious danger of collapse. The consensus was that it was basically a lost cause and we should no lose anyone else trying to save it. Rich, a few other people and I went inside to the stairwells and started yelling up "Drop everything and get out!" It didn't collapse until much later in the afternoon, but we felt it was better to get everybody out."
-Firefighter Currid - September 11: An Oral History by Dean Murphy
Once you read between the lines it's pretty easy to figure out what really happened. They were told it would collapse.
>>680896367
I'm going to assume that's a no answer. if you are not paying real estate taxes you are not paying for your primary education.
don't start with that fair share shit kid. at the end of the year 50-55 percent of my pay is eaten up by taxes.
>>680897011
so every skyscraper meets standards and national+ regulations only after its retrofitted with thermite explosives?
oh and mfw you try to make nature illegal
>go suck bleach
>>680896708
This.
>>680897011
So, an engineer knew what he was talking about, therefore thermite?
>>680897072
you're a retard
>>680896460
one sensible person.
>>680891449
what is the worth of value if it is relative? At least vis a vis dealing with anyone else at all?
>>680896785
>You're wrong but I'm not gonna tell you why because you'll figure it out in a few years
Or in other words
>I don't really have an argument but because starting from the bottom and working my way up worked for me I'm gonna assume that every single person that stays in a low paying job past the age of 25 is just lazy.
>>680896921
I hope you like disappointment.
>>680896967
I can't argue with that, honestly.
>>680897140
Oh nooooo, how terrible! I'm sure you're left with nothing but scraps!!1!
How much you make, anon?
you're a schizophrenic dystopic double thought to insanity retard with egocentrism, compartmentalisation (mind controlled), multiple personality disorder, extreme autism, and psychosis: resulting in ABC repeat pattern criminal convictions; marked for removal, extinction. a slow witted unwanted retarded cunt stuck between one false flag and another logical fallacy. majority. force. no sign of health yet well adjusted.
>>680897282
at least i know how to reply to the posts im referring to
>>680897268
No human being could have foresight like that. He predicted the exact hour the building would collapse, between 5 to 6 PM. "Five to six hours".
>>680897423
seriously, my sides.
>>680897514
now is when you need to fuck off.
>>680897602
onq
>>680897450
sure do, buddy. whats your point?
>>680897613
so that makes it a conspiracy. got any lottery numbers?
>>680889157
>the non radicals are very insular, using their religion to define themselves
this
so much this
>>680897776
you'll find out soon enough. sorry I won't be there ... to laugh.
>>680882127
>Why I'm voting Bernie: The Thread
End yourself.
>>680897857
Once you acknowledge that no human being with any level of knowledge could make such a precise estimation for the collapse of an entire gigantic skyscraper with fires on ten floors, then yes, that does make a conspiracy. It doesn't matter if it's thinly veiled as an "assessment of the structural damage".
>>680898092
knew this from the start.
>>680882127
Yes, it was called the Oslo accords, they were on the brink of it 25 years ago and then Rabin was assassinated by an Israeli right-winger and the two sides slid back into extremism.
As long as religion is a strong presence in a large enough amount of people's lives it will have a place in politics.
>>680898006
But my daddy said Il grow up to be a good boy. You big meanee.
>>680897738
I'm going to assume that's a no answer, and just assume you're in the highest tax bracket of 39.6%, which means $413,201 or more a year. So yeah, you can go fuck off in your Lamborghini, you have not a drop of sympathy from me, pussy.
>>680896460
Agree with everything except the police. I agree that most police shootings are justified and the remainder are almost all simply bad decisions/calls by the officers in question.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/hear-nickel-ride-philly-cops-gave-man-one-tax-payers-giving-490k/
This is one example of very real police brutality.
>>680897613
Dude, not trying to be patronizing, but you need to learn some statistics. Things that appear to be miracles happen all the time. Take this for example: http://ktla.com/2015/03/29/oc-paramedic-helps-rescue-doctor-who-saved-his-life-as-baby-pair-reunited/
Weird shit has to happen to somebody.
>>680896460
>Name ONE man (of any color) shot by the cops for committing a minor crime.
That idiot in Ferguson
>Wrong. It's far more fucked up than Buddhism, for instance.
And Scientology is worse than them all. Actually not. The Church of Scientology is a corrupt organization. The religion is just as nutty (or nuttier) than any other.
>select all the food
none of this shit looks remotely edible
>>680898211
were you there? was the reporter from the BBC there? did he hear the actual conversation? were you there? did you hear the actual conversation? do you understand where I'm going with this?
>>680896460
Buddhism has it's own bloody history.
I believe that's for /pol
>>680898255
really. you know who your dad is? you fooling right.
>>680898291
you are unreal kid.
>>680898365
>just as nutty as any other
This.
Religious people can be peaceloving or savages depending on what their favourite page in their holy book is. This applies to all religions.
>>680898365
Running from the cops and pulling a weapon turned it into a major crime. Still may have not deserved to die, but if the cops tell you to stop, you fucking stop and don't try to be a hard ass just for the hell of it.
To be fair there have almost certainly been more than a few people (black, white, or otherwise) that have been killed by police for minor crimes.
>>680898333
>http://ktla.com/2015/03/29/oc-paramedic-helps-rescue-doctor-who-saved-his-life-as-baby-pair-reunited/
You know there's a part of your brain saying something's wrong when you play the luck card.
Not only does WTC 7's damage and fires not justify a collapse of any kind, the premise that any person could successfully predict the hour of it's collapse if ludicrous.
Queer as a clockwork orange. "Clockwork orange" meaning something skillfully manufactured and artificial that mimics something natural and organic- like a controlled demolition staged to look like a structural failure.
Foreknowledge.
>>680898365
he wasn't shot for shop lifting. he was shot for attacking an officer.
protip, they didn't know he was unarmed until AFTER the altercation was over.
>>680898864
that goes for liberalism as well.
>>680898626
woah, dont want to go there man. i though i could get away with some lies on the internet, but damn.
>>680899099
but not conservatism?
>>680898471
I quoted FDNY Chief Peter Hayden, who was there and witnessed the whole thing.
Someone warned of the collapse to keep the firefighter's away from their grand masterpiece. I wonder if his work of art ever feels unappreciated because so many people blindly accept that it collapsed from fire.
>>680899191
where did this come from. you gonna call me a conservitard now?
To OP, about the immigration thing.
Personally, I would want immigrants to drop illegal qualities, not everything, out of their host country. Each culture has it quirks, and learning about them IMO is a good thing.
like
>group accepts rape == no, bad
>group has a unique style of dances, food == great
Get me?
>>680899295
How do we know he was there? I mean, any records of his exact presence could be easily fabricated in the chaos of that day. I wouldn't trust any thing an authority figure claimed to have witnessed any more that I woudl believe a regular joe.
>>680899295
just stop posting your conspiracy shit. no one wants to hear it.
find some other way to be a big man on 4 chan
>>680882127
>OP is such a fag it cant be anything than a bait
>OP is such a fag it cant be anything than a bait
>OP is such a fag it cant be anything than a bait
>OP is such a fag it cant be anything than a bait
>>680899191
it applies to everything. thats why terms like conservatism and socialism are bullshit in this context.
see:>>680890735
>>680899410
no, I'm just trying to get a feel on why all religions can be flawed, but only one wing of the political spectrum can be.
>>680899627
*liberalism
>>680899627
agreed, hence my question.
>>680899725
if you go into a theory with a preset determination your end result will be flawed.
>>680899619
Stop posting your official story shit. Psychic powers don't exist. If they did exist, someone would have won the James Randi challenge by now.
>>680899625
>a bait
can someone please extinguish my FUCKING EYEBALLS
>>680900002
ok you need to step away form your keyboard.
>>680882127
Who are you voting for, OP?
>>680900002
off by 2
>>680900224
Why? You you consider a skeptical civilian with a keyboard "armed and dangerous"?
Yeeeah, it's lookin' like the Towers were bamboozled.
>>680882127
I like you and your opinions OP
>>680882127
>Two states is tough when one side is run by an internationally-recognized terrorist organization that was democratically elected by their apparently terrorism-inclined population
>Capitalism is what Uber represented, it was attacked by the taxi unions which are the representation of communist ideas in the United States. If you approve of Uber and disapprove of the unions, then you're pro-capitalist.
>None of the politicians are the ones egging on terrorism; they all like the US because we give them oil money. Islam's inclination to terrorism comes from the grassroots imams, not the political leadership, thus it represents the true will of the majority of the world's Muslims.
>It's a useless approach, it doesn't address HOW we developed such an income disparity. It's a bandaid, and it can't work on its own.
>I'll let you do the googling on what the cumulative student loan debt in America is. A hint: if you ask google "is the cumulative student loan debt in america less than or equal to 700 bil", the answer is very, very no.
>So what do you suggest we do about it?
>Seeing as we live in a democracy, it should have exactly as much say in politics as the majority decides it should.
>So what do you suggest we do about it?
>>680900396
take my advice and just leave the us man. Its not worth it.
>>680898933
That's quite a leap.
If you can provide some sources of people who are actually knowledgeable about engineering professing their opinion on the matter, I may be swayed. Have you any?
I have to say that I respect your style of argument. Much more than I can say about the rest of the rabble.
>>680899472
this
>>680900407
one in every crowd.
>>680900961
my uncle is an engineer and he has an IQ of 140
>>680901098
I semi agree, but at least be able to understand the language of the country you're going to, and don't be an asshat and expect them to cater to your needs because you chose to be retarted and not adapt.
>>680900961
actually he argues like a liberal. keep crying 'til people agree with you to just shut you up.
>>680888241
... this is like every group of people, ever. Republicans, christians, nazis, pirates, school teachers, special needs sports teams, feminists... it's what groups do. Start small, then grow and dominate. It's a core human function
>>680900961
The NIST investigations concluded that the damage to WTC 7 was actually superficial in retrospect and could not have contributed to the collapse.
No tall building had ever collapsed from fire. That is a known fact.
All you really need to know after that is about the psychic engineer warning firefighters that WTC 7 would collapse, and that he gave the precise hour of it's collapse, and that he gave it only less than 3 hours after the North Tower collapsed.
That's called foreknowledge. No official source has addressed the true extent of the foreknowledge of WTC 7's collapse.
>>680901636
I like how you started with republicans but left out democrats. bias much?
>>680900529
After being treated like animals for 40 years I'm not surprised Palestinians act the way they do. If Israel followed international law they might have a leg to stand on but at the moment they are the cause of the problems.
A 2 state solution is the only way to fix the problem. But either the UN or a coalition would need to go in as peacekeepers with a mandate allowing them to kill people from either side.
As for uber the problem is taxis spend a fortune on licences and insurance whereas uber drivers don't have too. There is no problem with competition but uber drivers should have to have the same costs if they are doing the same job.
>>680901822
but yet three did.
>>680901422
I have a really old relative who lives in the US and doesnt speak english at all, but its fine because she lives in a neighbourhood where she doesnt need to. Also, I live in switzerland where there are rich people from all over the world living here. Nobody gives a shit they dont speak any native languages. I think people should expand their nationalistic horizons beyond "If you live in country xyz, you have to speak xyz language and have xyz culture". #2016
>>680901965
That's because democrats can't dominate anything.
We need to set the niggers on fire
>>680902216
WTC 1 and 2 had a plane in the mix. No plane hit WTC 7. An engineer, unlike the firefighters who just witnessed the collapse of the Twin Towers and had so many of their fellow firefighters killed, would understand how unlikely to impossible it would be for fire to cause a skyscraper to collapse.
Nobody actually knows the identify of this alleged engineer. It looks like he knew of the controlled demolition and mislead the firefighters into evacuating the area before they could figure out a way to extinguish the fires.
>>680902522
finally a rational thought
>>680902111
They acted like animals from the beginning, and I don't know how you can think differently of a pack of mudslimes. After getting their butts kicked in the 6 days war, they haven't stopped firing rockets and bombing shit since. Time after time, Hamas breaks ceasefires with Qassams. They lost a fair fight that they would have won if they hadn't been dumb fucks, and they've been butthurt about it since. Israel was even sporting enough to give the Sinai back to Egypt afterwards, just cuz they're the good guys. And in regards to your two state idea, sure, maybe it'd be the best answer, but to add fuel to my fire, the Palestinians have rejected that notion even more than Israel has, so I guess you must know better than them what's best for them.
>>680882127
>>Islam is just as fucked up as any other religion
">Islam is just as fucked up as any other religion" fucking retard...
>>680902612
you do realize each of the floors of the towers had 2,178,000 pounds of concrete reinforcement.
>>680902111
>As for uber the problem is taxis spend a fortune on licences and insurance whereas uber drivers don't have too. There is no problem with competition but uber drivers should have to have the same costs if they are doing the same job.
Not sure, but I fail to see how this is fair.
IIRC, uber isn't like a taxi service. It's a car-sharing service with some background checks.
Just because taxis have to pay for these fees doesn't mean Uber has.
not sure.
i'm a retard on this subject.
Who cares they are all just a bunch of sand niggers
>>680882127
A two state solution will never happen mainly because Palestinians are frequently taught to hate Israelis by propagating lies about them. For instance, by tellingly their youth that Israelis are constantly "storming" the al-aqsa mosque in an attempt to take over will only flame the flames of hatred that burnt so intensely within Palestinian society. Moreover, Every poll conducted by PEW research center shows that an overwhelming majority of Pals prefer "armed resistance"/terrorism to peaceful negotiations. This is why there will never be a two state solution.
>>680903055
brainwashed christian doublethinker with intact crimestop goodthinking detected
>>680903072
Of course. In order for WTC 7 to be a controlled demolition, the Twin Towers had to be as well.
There's even a vague case of foreknowledge in the first Tower collapse. Rudy Giuliani casually mentioned on live television that someone warned him the South Tower would collapse before it actually did. Among the firefighters, the common understanding was that the Towers would not collapse because they were designed to withstand a plane crashing into it.
>>680903397
this sounds familiar.
>>680903595
still not using logic. only relying on what someone said.
you do know all of the buildings were sitting on the same ground structure.
>>680903397
not op, but check out his:>>680883135
>>680903595
>would not collapse because they were designed to withstand a plane crashing into it.
do we even have technology that can do as you say?
i mean, what kind of stuff would a skyscraper have to break a 800k pound projectile in its tracks?
(800k is just a random guess)
>>680903848
What Popular Mechanics lies have you read to make you think that had to do with anything?
It doesn't matter either way. The unprecedented collapse of WTC 7 has a hard case of foreknowledge that points more to a criminal cover-up than it does to an engineer who got lucky.
>>680903881
I believe Israel has a progressive leadership, however if they get lo progressive Israel will get unilaterally fucked by terrorists. Look man, I've lost all hope for this conflict. I don't think it's ever gonna get straightened out, fuck like I don't even like thinking about it because it's a pain in the ass. At first when I was younger I used to ask myself "I can't believe these Israelis are moving out of Israel" but after years of witnessing the conflict I can understand why they're doing so. Like who would want to raise their kids in that environment, I mean yeah Israel is pretty af but ugh I couldn't deal with all that
>>680904185
let me guess you hate Bush don't you?
>>680882127
gays and trannies are okay. we have a lot bigger issues on our national agenda than the gays and the ladyboys. focus on national power and security and the economy first.
>>680904159
The Twin Towers had enough supporting structure for it's original designers to confidently state that it would withstand one or more impacts of a fuel-filled 707 jetliner and the ensuing fires.
Every part of the plane except for the long fuselage and the engines would become low-energy shredded projectiles as soon as it penetrated the outside. A 757 has two engines, while a 707 has four. So, while technically a 757 is larger, a 707 could do more damage because of the high-speed engines pounding through columns like a bullet.
>>680903076
>IIRC, uber isn't like a taxi service. It's a car-sharing service with some background checks.
They don't do half the background checks that taxi companies do. They don't even require a fingerprint on file, yet taxi drivers have one.
And it's not car sharing. If someone in their own car picks you up at point A and drives you to point B, that is for all intents and purposes the same as what a taxi does. Taxis just use a specifically branded/licensed car.
>>680904185
yet I should believe the BBC like you do.
>>680904493
youre gonna have to wait until someone knowledgeable on the subject comes around. I dont know shit anout the situation. i just wanted to link
>>680904910
Lmao you believe In an all powerful big black cock, fucking religitard faggot
>>680882127
Almost all of this is good.
>>680905051
British Broadcasting Company.
>>680904910
Chief Peter Hayden was there and he stated to the camera the experience he had with WTC 7. While the actual BBC program is an obvious propaganda hitpiece, the witness account from Chief Peter Hayden is a real eye-opener to the circumstances surrounding the collapse of WTC 7.
No human being can have the foresight to accurately predict the hour of when a skyscraper will collapse from fire, because it's next to impossible for such a thing to even happen and it has never happened ever.
>>680903594
Not a Christian you fucking moron. Go take a look at polls you fucking retard. God damn fucking atheists, make me fucking ashamed to call me one. "hurr durr multiculturalism every religion is equally bad" fucking braindead sheep.
>>680904965
I'm telling you bro it's never gonna happen. If we get an ardently leftist leadership, they're just gonna appease all of the terrorists demands. For instance, if the PA claims that they will return to the negotiating table ONLY IF ISRAEL RELEASES a fuckton of terrorists, a leftists leadership would agree to this. The only thing that would happen is that these people would just go back to killing Israelis, and the PA wouldn't keep their word. They would just put another pre-condition that would be detrimental to Israel's security. It's happened once, it's happened twice, it's happened thrice and it's gonna keep happening
>>680905318
HAHA fucking imperialist faggot worshipping some faceless abstract British conglomerate
>>680905374
>accurately predict the hour
>two hour timeframe based on knowledge of physics turned out to be accurate proves foresight
I'm sorry, you wot?
>be me
>on /b/
>think it's pol
>kill myself
>everybody walk the dinosaur
>>680905374
so you really cling to this then. someone made a lucky guess.
you didn't answer my question so
I'll assume yes. don't worry you fit in with the others.
as for you post they are biased and to put it bluntly utter shit.
I guess mechanics and the forces created by the collapse are too much for you to comprehend.
>>680905767
Sure, just throw around the word "physics" and expect it to mean something.
Foreknowledge. That's the word you're looking for.
WTC 7 was a controlled demolition, get over it.
>>680905713
where are you getting this?
>>680906290
proof?
>>680906258
There was no basis for any human being, no matter how knowledgeable, to feel justified in making any such guess. It would be unprofessional and simply stupid for an engineer to "try his luck" in guessing any timeframe in which a skyscraper would collapse from fire. Nothing adds up about these witness accounts to this anonymous engineer. The most rational explanation is that someone knew of the impending controlled demolition.
This country is fucking doomed, look at the majority of college campuses. They want to ban "hurtful speech". Holy shit if there was ever a time we needed someone like Trump elected, it's right fucking now. I don't worship the guy, I know he's not perfect but it's clear that either Hillary, Bernie or trump are going to become the next president. Just look at Obama, the youth loves him and accepts his ideas, imagine how much they would trust Hillary or Bernie. We need trump to be elected.
>>680906696
again proof.
>>680906290
>implying Physics isn't directly applicable to this
>implying the only way to predict things on a large scale is already knowing the outcome
You do realize that foreknowledge implies a definite outcome of all actions, right? That basically makes free will moot.
>tfw anon implies we were destined to end up on 4chan and this was going to happen since before anything existed
Sure. Whatever works for you. One question, though. Is the tinfoil hat comfortable on your head, or does it scratch the inside of your ass?
>>680906767
they are accepted because they cater to these people. that's the democrat appeal.
>>680906809
How about you prove that psychic abilities exist?
Give me an example of when a tall steel-framed building was on fire and it had an approximate time that it was predicted to collapse, and then it did.
Oops, no tall building in history had ever collapsed from fire before 9/11. Nope, there is no justification for this case of foreknowledge. The idea is ridiculous, except for the fact that it actually happened.
I've been thinking about this but I haven't seen anyone post this. Feminists are always saying that it's impossible to be racist to whites since they supposedly hold most positions of power. Some also say that misandry isn't real because men hold most positions of power. By that logic, isn't it impossible to be antisemitic? Jews control the majority of the fucking media.
>>680906936
Keep on playing semantics games. How about this instead of "foreknowledge": The dude knew about the controlled demolition and mislead the firefighters into getting the hell away from the building so they didn't fuck anything up.
>>680907117
you're clinging to a word for the basis of your argument.
you are retarded, but thanks for coming out of nowhere to derail this faggots thread.
you foil heads come in handy sometimes.
>>680907306
that is just their bull shit excuse to be little bitches.
