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>>679028475
U faggot
Cover your eyes nigger.
>>679028827
TL;DR?
>>679028143
Lol.
Berniefags. They make bronies look tough and wise.
>>679028143
A parent's couch dwelling /b/tard makes 0 cents
Equal Pay now!!!!
>>679028143
30-40 makes more money than 20-30!!!!
Ageism!!!
So if they're performing as good as men at their jobs but being paid why don't they all get hired?
>>679028143
60 cents more than the nig should be making
>>679028985
Women make less because they choose careers that pay less. Women get payed less cause they work less and finally women get paid less cause of childbirth, quitting a job to start a family.
women can make over 100k a year filming porn, men are in the 50k a year area
So if they're performing as good as men at their jobs but being paid less for equal work why don't they all get hired?***
Is what i meant ^
>>679028143
btw where are Asians?
Would they destroy this theory?
>>679028143
Establish a universal wage!
Kek
theres no such thing as a such a dramatic wage gap if you input VARIABLES. dumb fucks
>>679028827
/Thread
Which means if they start making the same as men, they will essentially make more for less work.
Fuck feminism!!!!
>>679028143
If this were true, no one would hire a white man. The reason these people make less, comparatively, is because they are less educated and trained than the men or whoever is making the full dollar. You honestly think that a mexican housewife who can't even speak english should make 80K a year cleaning hotel rooms, while the guy with a degree in engineering also makes 80K a year?
also, bait
I usually don't like posting YT links to make a point; but this makes it easier for everyone to understand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDj_bN0L8XM
>>679029758
Alright you got me. I really try to avoid discussion about politics. My only thing about jew cuck bernie is that hes too fucking old to be running.
>>679028985
>>679029372
and also, women don't really get paid that much less. 95 cents on the dollar, not 77 cents on the dollar.
>>679030272
he's 5 years older than Trump, 6 years older than Shillary. Not that big of a deal.
Next?
>>679029372
>they choose careers that pay less
How much of this choice is a personal choice and how much is it something that is influenced by society ?
>>679029755
Feminism isn't about giving equal pays for unequal quantity of work. It's about creating a society where each men and women would be as likely to choose any career they want.
Fighting the patriarcal system is defying all the unwritten rules that are responsible for the wage gap, not demanding law that give more money to women.
You are mixing up feminism and american feminism. Since people in the states are retarded, they came up with idea like "the wage gap should be fought by law" as they did with affirmative action to fight against racism.
But elsewhere, where people aren't 100% retarded, feminism fight against the reason behind women's shitty career/choice of major.
>>679028143
>you can't
implying i want to
>>679030472
Tell me you honestly believe you'll get shit "for free"
Make America Great Again
-Emperor Trump
>>679028143
Maybe they should learn how to negotiate for higher pay.
>>679030604
As an unemployed college student i guarantee i will get shit for free
>>679030684
What's the point of this image?
>>679028143
This does a pretty good job of explaining why the 'pay gap' doesn't really exist if you understand statistics.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303532704579483752909957472
>>679028143
Talking to indian.
She's taking about her cousins rent if a 3 bed 2 bath for like 2300/mth
She pays 100/mth for a better house
She gets a brand new vehicle every few years of not being a fuckup
And a job that I'm sure pays more than 5.90 an hour- or is it even less since she's a woman?
Besides this one example, in every job I have ever worked I've gotten paid the exact same per hour as everyone else despite work ethic or efficiency.
And I've worked with indians, whites, males, females, blacks, asians, mexicans, mixes so deep they get offended if you only mention 1, etc etc etc. All from vastly different social, economic and neighborhoods, yet all getting paid the same, under a female boss, who's under a female boss, both of whom are obviously making more than any of us-not do to being males or whites, but because of their responsibilities and time of working there.
Last but not least, praying for such a world where everyone gets paid the same is bullshit when you look around and see yourself working much harder or efficiently, for the same ammount as the nigger standing near the water tower for 1/3rd of the shift, or the person who can't balance their till for shit...
>>679030514
>How much of this choice is a personal choice and how much is it something that is influenced by society ?
>much social construct
Women are free to choose any career they want, yet you have things like "women's studies" degrees that are worth nothing. While in actuality women who do go into high paying careers end up making more money than men in those same careers.
>>679030455
This. They vacation for years then go back to their low-income job then wonder why a guy sealing business deals or engineering chemical structures makes more.
>>679030604
That's an argument made up by folks like you to try to discredit what Bernie is trying to do. We all know it isn't "free." These things will be paid by the taxes we will be paying. Overall, unless you're making over 250K a year, you're not going to notice your taxes go up by a huge amount. Even if my taxes were going to go up by 5 or even 10%, what I would get from it would be worth it. I'd happily pay that just to be able to get medical care when I need it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjWBXbGVyQU
>>679030472
5 years at that age is pretty big. I mean, that's not even considering that Sanders is pandering to the financially illiterate by making Wall Street a boogeyman just like how Trump uses Mexicans. So basically, I'm too informed on finance/economics to fall for his bullshit narrative, plus I don't want my income/payroll taxes to go over 50% to pay for shit for people I don't care about.
>>679030962
>>679028143
Do you know what Hitchen's Razor is?
It's a thing that says that anything asserted without proof can and should be dismissed out of hand without evidence or proof.
Basically go fuck off with that bullshit.
For every 10 men that work full time
5 women work at all
2 black women work at all
1 Hispanic woman may or may not work at all
1 Native american woman is bitching about how they weren't given back enough land and that is why they're all dirt fucking poor.
If reality is sexist, then maybe women should step into fucking reality and stop trying to make the world turn the other way because it offends them.
>>679031474
So he drives a nice car, so what?
And?
>>679028143
Watch Milo (@Nero), he'll help to make you less of a fucktard.
>>679031122
No one argues that they aren't free to choose these high-paying career.
As much as black people are free to not be criminal
But if these choice are made en masse, there is a reason.
Tell me why women choose these career ? If it was only because of personal interest it will be on average equal.
>>679028143
How the wage gap works:
>Society, women included, still wants men to be the main earner in a family. Thus it puts pressure on the 40+hr week and a preference for high paying jobs
>Women get away with leeching off their men/boyfriends. They can technically also become engineers and work till they drop but why bother. Just study some field that gives you good vibrations (usually shit tier social stuff) and work there like 20h or so because work life balance is important, right?
That said, it actually is a problem that our society values some jobs (e.g. healthcare) much less than others (e.g. fixing cars) and that the jobs valued less are usually jobs women work in, but that's not a gender paygap but a pay gap between fields. A male kindergardener also earns a shit wage.
In fact there are studies showing that when the amount of women working in a field increases, the average pay decreases (for everyone). Because they settle for less.
But we aren't adressing that but instead make it about some invisible patriarchy actually handing out less money to individual women. When what we need to do is value certain fields higher
>>679031615
>>679030472
people say he'll likely be dead before the election.
>>679028985
Basically the gender pay gap doesn't exist because it results from bad statistics.
>>679031615
>career politician
>nice car
>paid for with your taxes
If he was a true man he'd be driving around in a reasonably priced commuter car.
Bernie Sanders fixing the wage gap is like OP saying he'll kill someone.
Won't fucking deliver.
>>679031756
Milo is a fag and not on the side of the white man . subversive and trying to lead you away from the truth .
>>679032119
Yeah, but what's his car have to do with his shitty values?
>>679032219
If I took issue with him having a nice car that we paid for, I'd have to take the same issue with all politicians, the banks, Hedge Fund managers, etc. It gets a little exhausting adding that to focusing on why they're shitty and why their focus is so myopic.
>>679028143
yeah there's no arguing with a 12 year old.
>>679032347
He has a scholarship for straight, white men.
>>679032479
>Trusting Universities and places of education
>21st century
>>679032078
>it actually is a problem that our society values some jobs (e.g. healthcare) much less than others (e.g. fixing cars)
Nope. Some labor is more valuable than others. Any faggot can do data entry. Fewer can code the program into which the data is entered. Fewer can create and execute the experiment that gathers that data.
The market makes sense. Trying to impose "equality" where none belongs is foolish.
>>679031422
You say you're informed on finance and economics, yet you think he's going to tax you at 50%? Considering that your taxes aren't likely to even go up unless you're making over 250K year, and even then, the highest tax bracket is in the mid 40's, you seem to be pretty misinformed.
>>679032078
>>679032078
>How the wage gap works:
>>Society, women included, still wants men to be the main earner in a family. Thus it puts pressure on the 40+hr week and a preference for high paying jobs
>>Women get away with leeching off their men/boyfriends. They can technically also become engineers and work till they drop but why bother. Just study some field that gives you good vibrations (usually shit tier social stuff) and work there like 20h or so because work life balance is important, right?
So you agree that there is a problem in the distribution of work and money between gender ?
That society shouldn't put the burden of earning money on men and should provide to women more empowering role model to women so they can stop being dependant/leech of their men ?
You are a feminist like Simone de Beauvoir.
When she wrote Le Deuxieme Sexe ( the founding book of the modern feminist movement) the main focus of her work was to get women to be financially independant from their husband.
>>679031122
Even as recently as last week they've shown that same title at the same company for same hours worked had a 20% difference between men and women when talking highly compensated positions. The attempts to dismiss the wage gap are as based in reality as flat earth theory and magic.
>>679031152
Go ahead and calculate how much more you will pay in taxes under Bernie Sanders, and how much less you will pay under Trump. It is an outright lie that only people above incomes of $250k will pay more. I'm guessing you don't even have a job though so it probably won't matter for you.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/3/25/11293258/tax-plan-calculator-2016
>>679032718
Yeah the faggot doing data entry will still earn more than a kindergardener.
I'm not talking nurse vs rocket engineer, but the fact is that even absolute retard-work is paid well as long as its related to IT while you will be forever stuck on a lowl level blue-collar wage with a bloody degree in social work is dumb
>>679032830
I suppose I am. The problem is that modern feminists aren't actually feminists.
They want only the benefits but not actually leave the cozy victim/leech role
>>679031474
http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-audi-8/
>>679032123
people say the earth is flat and run by lizard men, too.
>>679033073
And yet almost every civilized country in the world manage to have free healthcare and free education.
>>679033073
>http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/3/25/11293258/tax-plan-calculator-2016
So I'm looking at paying $2000/year more. I'm fine with that, because I know that the returns are worth it for me.
>>679033773
And their economies are failing.
>>679033905
Hey maybe they are worth it for you. Keyword you. It's not worth it for everyone else who doesn't need/want to go to college. What about people that already paid for their education, will they be getting a full reimbursement? What about people that have shelled out thousands for their own healthcare, will you also reimburse them? I didn't think so. It is an asinine idea, and in reality there is plenty on the plate from Trump to make both education and healthcare far more fair, and affordable for every single American citizen, without raising the taxes of every single person. It's no one else's responsibility to pay for your way.
>>679033968
you realize that life expectancy in the US is shorter than in Costa Rica ?
You can buy 2 iPhone a year against only 1 for a citizen of Western Europe, how is it better than not dying ?
>>679031900
What about the reverse. Why do men choose high paying career paths.
For me I'm not a naturally caring person. And I like $$$$. I made my decision based on what my skills were and what got me the most dollars.
I would assume anyone regardless of sex would do the same.
...or is the argument your trying to make women think "I can't do that its a man dominated field" in that case it's a self created problem.
>>679034414
I don't waste my money each time a new iPhone comes out. Priorities.
>>679028143
This is an anti-Bernie shill posting his weaker points. I disagree with Bernie on this but will vote for him anyway.
>>679028985
That image already is a tl;dr. Someone poured over statistics for hours and hours to make that inforgraphic which takes a few seconds to read. Jesus fuck.
>>679032785
> ou say you're informed on finance and economics, yet you think he's going to tax you at 50%
Yeah, he will. First I have to pay not only income tax, but my employer also charges me for payroll tax (as do many others) so even if I didn't make as much I would still pay over 50% in taxes. Finally, much of my pay (particularly bonuses) is in stock options, so on any given year capital gains makes up a huge chunk of my income (his capital gains plan raise my bracket to well over 50% per https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/W1PhQXyP8Le2eKxFs1pWA-HFvMY=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/5925467/capital_gains2.jpg).
> Considering that your taxes aren't likely to even go up unless you're making over 250K year, and even then, the highest tax bracket is in the mid 40's, you seem to be pretty misinformed.
No, you're misinformed. The figure you are thinking of only includes "income tax" not payroll taxes, however, most people still lose payroll taxes from their income, so when you include that, many more people will end up being taxed over 50%. I know I would be (thank god he can't win). Pic related is what most people will experience under Sanders' tax plan, it isn't misleading like Sanders' figures because it doesn't just omit one of the taxes. Ignore the title, I don't feel like renaming it.
When I say financially illiterate I mean the people who eat up the "Wall Street is caused the 2008 crisis" bullshit that underpins his entire platform.
>>679030191
underrated post.
Had seen it before and it's accurate enough.. but most feminazis will rage muh patriarchy about it
>>679028143
this shit has been disproved a million times
>>679034905
>vox
Please don't tell me you're a reasonable person and actually believing shit from Vox, which is indirectly funded by Murdoch.
>>679034905
You're just counting one side of the equation. You can just look at what is being taken away, look at how much people would save in healthcare costs.
>>679034365
I see it differently. Why does it have to be you vs me? If I can help you out, or someone else out, especially with a small amount of input, I'll be happy to do it. Now obviously none of us that have been to school or have paid large medical bills(and I have both, mind you) will be reimbursed. But I know what it's like to struggle under those debts, and I don't want to burden anyone else with that, if I can help it. I dunno man, I don't get it. Why is it so bad to try to help your fellow man?
>>679028143
assuming that the differences are the same in every country...
>>679028143
I need to make a filter that contains "Prove me wrong" and hide all of that, you baiting piece of illiterate fake-statics-using horse shit.
>>679033621
chances are it's the same people
>>679034769
f'kin saved
>>679035447
I have dealt with it all as well, and still have large amounts of medical debt. You might understand as you get older and work your ass off for what you have. I see no reason we need to raise everbodies taxes just to give "free" stuff to everyone. Not everyone agrees with that. Trump's way of making healthcare and college more affordable is a much better way to go.
>>679033346
This ma law so much sense. And also points to why all the feminists I've dated (degrees in womens studies, attended weekly meetings etc.) had the strongest rape and abuse fantisies I've ever encountered.
Always wanting to be in controll but playing the victim. Both in the bed and in regards to femenism.
Surprisingly thet were fatties with red hair and piercings. But same they had the same fucked notions.
>>679035278
Somewhat biased source, that's why I'm not including any commentary. Bias can't change the numbers (unless you're Sanders and you just omit certain taxes to have a misleading, low number).
>>679035324
I won't benefit at all, I'd only lose money. I have health insurance now and am doing fine. I only lose with Sanders, that's why I don't want him (not to mention all his white privilege bullshit). I don't care about the poor. I certainly don't feel like giving up my income so they can have healthcare.
>Thinking they'll let Trump have the nomination
>Thinking that if he does, he could beat Bernie or Hillary in the general
Nominating Trump is the best way to ensure a democratic President.
>>679036272
It's not really a biased source when you consider that Murdoch is also anti Trump. If anything it is biased towards Hillary.
>>679036272
We get it, you don't care about other people.
That's cool man. Some of us do.
>>679035967
You assume that I'm still young, but I guess that's an easy assumption to make while on the internet. But at any rate, I'm not saying everyone agrees with Bernie's way - clearly not everyone does, nor do they have to. I have, admittedly, not looked much in to Trump's tax plan, but that's simply because I won't be voting for him no matter how good his tax plan is; I simply disagree too much with other stances he has.
>>679036272
> I won't benefit at all
> I don't care about the poor.
and this is why you will be third world soon.
>>679036498
Good, you should take your feelings to the carebear patch. This is the real world where some of us actually work hard for what we have. You might understand some day.
>>679036335
No it isn't. Current polls are misleading because they only include voting democrats versus voting republicans. What they don't include is that a huge chunk of Sanders' supporters just flat out won't vote for Clinton when she gets the nomination. The number of voters on the democratic side is misleading now because Sanders has energized financially illiterate 20-somethings who wouldn't otherwise vote.
>>679036486
Bias toward Hillary is still Bias agaisnt Bernie, and they're reporting on Bernie.
So how does the fact that they aren't pro Trump helpful?
Maybe the other niggers need to get a better job instead of whine
>>679036653
I'm guessing you haven't looked into any of his stances, and most of your opinions are based on feelings. Do yourself a favor and dig a little deeper, you might be surprised how misinformed you are.
>>679031474
Confused, not even the same car.
>>679036762
If you followed back to the post where I originally posted the vox link you might understand. Also bias towards Hillary is also anti Trump bias as well. Damn near same boat, just that Bernie's tax plan is actually terrible, and has no basis in reality.
>>679036498
Then don't tell me what to do with my money. Do with yours what you want but you have no right to tell me what I can do with mine
>>679036659
No it isn't. The whole "America is dying" bullshit is based solely on people who don't really understand economics. The American Government is considered to be the single most credit-worthy entity on the planet and the USD is the world's reserve currency. Nothing is going to happen anytime soon.
>>679028143
>Believes a woman who works in a field with a Bachelors in Liberal Arts should make the same as a man who works in a field with a Bachelors in Mechanical Engineering.
>Implying they make less even in the same field.
Unless it's working in a mine, or doing something which involves heavy lifting, they get paid the same.
>>679036704
Higher numbers of Clinton voters said they wouldn't vote for Obama in 08, than Bernie Supporters voting that say they wont vote for Clinton now.
Guess what? They did. Obama won. Twice.
Not to mention the fact that many, many, people will be galvanized to vote for Hillary or Bernie just to stop Trump.
>>679028143
Well maybe if women got off their fucking asses and did some real work instead of drinking bacardi breezers and having periods then their wouldn't be a gap
>>679036673
Because I'm sure you work harder than everyone who doesn't agree with you.
>>679036673
>Implying working hard has anything to do with getting ahead in this world
Oh sweet summer child. I wish you all the best on your journey from poor to slightly less poor though
>>679028143
Those statistics show that men are much more successful at getting promotions and raises, not that their was fowl play. That's some straight garbage big political heads slanting statistics like that.
>>679037252
It is incredibly delusional that a majority of people are going to vote for Bernie Sanders. A man that supports socialism and communism in its deepest roots. Get real.
>>679036673
>muh hard work
>>679028143
>>679037201
>The American Government is considered to be the single most credit-worthy entity on the planet
Credit rating was lowered by an agency a few years ago. The feds immediately sued them and opened criminal investigations related to regulatory matters.
No one else has had the balls to do it again. But if you really think the almost $20 trillion in US debt is going to be repaid, ever, you also probably believe in fairies. Doing so would require drastic cuts in spending and punitive levels of taxation for a generation or more, or wild inflation (that would itself wreck the economy).
>>679037438
Actually I did start out fairly poor, but expecting to do very well this year. Hard work does actually pay off slacker. You won't get your free ride. Try getting a job or starting a business.
So for every dollar a man makes, women make 2 dollars and 53 cents.
>>679037565
That's what literally every poll says. But I know facts are scary to a lot of republicans, so they ignore them.
Fact is, Hillary beats Trump in a general election easily, and she'll probably win the nomination.
>>679037252
> Higher numbers of Clinton voters said they wouldn't vote for Obama in 08
Those voters weren't almost exclusive in the 18-26 age group. You know the group that is least likely to vote? That's why this election is fundamentally different.
> Not to mention the fact that many, many, people will be galvanized to vote for Hillary or Bernie just to stop Trump.
Not many. When Trump gets the nomination the AnybodybutTrump movement will die out. It's funded almost exclusively by Republican elites to get rid of Trump for a more party-friendly candidate. When it comes down to Trump versus Clinton almost all of these people will still prefer Trump. Not to mention that because Cruz and Trump are much closer than Sanders and Clinton, Trump will find it much easier to absorb Cruz voters than Clinton will for Sanders voters.
>>679028143
> TODAY IS EQUAL WORK DAY
> For every dollar a man earns by doing his job...
A white woman has stop facebooking and do her job.
A black woman has to stop stealing supplies and do her job.
An hispanic woman has to stop sleeping and do her job.
A native american has to show up and do her job.
> Then they'll get their dollar.
>>679031900
Does it matter? I dont think we should fix "problem" that certain set of people do certain choices more often.
>Men usually prefer women as sexual partner.
Should we fix this blatant sexism as well?
No.
>>679037898
I'm sure you're doing great. You'll be part of the 1% any minute now
And I have a job, thank you very much. I'm just not delusional enough to believe that it is getting me anywhere. My work (just like yours) mostly lines somebody elses pocket.
The only way to actually get ahead is making others work for you, but not everyone has the means to do that
>>679038126
I think you fail to understand how much people despise/fear Trump.
>>679037893
> Credit rating was lowered by an agency a few years ago.
Doesn't matter. The market still considers US Treasuries to be the 'risk free' asset on which all other risk is gauged.
> But if you really think the almost $20 trillion in US debt is going to be repaid, ever, you also probably believe in fairies
It's being repaid on a rolling basis, you have no idea how corporate/government debt works. It doesn't work like consumer credit, educate yourself.
> Doing so would require drastic cuts in spending and punitive levels of taxation for a generation or more, or wild inflation (that would itself wreck the economy).
For countries like Greece or Spain? Yes. Not for the US. The US is fundamentally different because it is considered to be the 'risk free' asset by the market. The US government could claim that it won't make it's next coupon payment and there would be a shock through the market, but people would still flock to US Treasuries (flight to quality investments). You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>679038536
Well, there is a problem with the fact that some choices are just arbitrarely "better" than others.
Why is a petrol engineer so much more important for society than a doctor?
Because atm it all follows a purely economical logic that values profit over having a good life. Doesn't have to be that way though
>>679038838
You're overestimating how much people dislike Trump. You probably spend most of your time in a "Trump is bad" echo chamber so you assume the majority of people think this way. Most people don't. Most people understand that Trump is actually pretty moderate compared to how the media portrays him.
>>679038764
>but not everyone has the means to do that
So, because you can't, no one else can either?
>>679034846
>hours and hours
>cites the Guardian
>>679033346
That's not a new thing. The suffragettes very neatly dodged the responsibility of registering for the draft, which men had to do to earn the right to vote. The idea being that men would have to take responsibility in the ensuing wars if they voted poorly. Women just GET that right, no responsibility, no accountability.
>>679039284
Newsflash: The guy who portrays Trump as a radical is Trump.
That said, not even half the GOP likes him. What was his absolute top result so far? ~40%?
>>679038126
you are delusional if you think trump has a chance
>>679039363
Can you?
Besides, it is just simple math that if everyone has people working for him, no one has.
Just like 99% of people will never be part of the 1% by definition
>>679037721
If you put the same lack of effort into those jobs that you do into the two you have, you should be able to manage that easily.
>>679031900
hiroyuki, is that you?
>>679039284
Notice how the trend is that his unfavorability is increasing?
>hurr hurr all those polls are wrong because I feel like they are wrong.
Show data.
>>679028143
Maybe they should work as much as men then, faggot.
>>679039889
TIL Firing people and getting a couple million as pay-off if you screw up is the hardest work in the world
>>679040096
>Still thinks we're talking about the wage gap
>>679039220
So you're moving the goalposts. This argument is now not about a 'wage gap' but instead about the problems of a market-based economy.
You can't just change the issue a little bit when you're proven to be wrong. You're still wrong. Make another thread if you want to talk about the benefits of socialism. This is about how the 'wage gap' is a myth.
Yay, another "my statistics can beat up your statistics" thread on /b/
>>679039572
> Newsflash: The guy who portrays Trump as a radical is Trump.
It's political pusturing just like Sanders' pandering to the financially illiterate.
>>679039572
> That said, not even half the GOP likes him. What was his absolute top result so far? ~40%?
About 51.2% of delegates backing candidates still in the race. You can't compare the Republican Primary and the Democratic Primary because the Republican Primary had 4-5 semi-serious contenders and around 2-3 serious contenders at any given time so it makes sense that the votes are more fragmented than the Democratic Primary.
>>679039576
And you're delusional if you think Sanders has even half the chance Trump does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qda-a6yik1c
>>679040459
Whether Sanders has an chance or not isn't relevant. Fact is, whoever is the democratic nominee will beat him.
>>679040072
Notice how any trending is not out of the ordinary and could just be due to noise. Lrn2statistics. Also, neither of the two main candidates are considered favorable, yet they are still winning.
>>679028143
Sure.
You're wrong because you have no reference. The Huffington post says women make .02 less an hour than men.
That's the most pro female, left wing paper in the country. They say you are lying, so suck it.
>>679040345
I'm not changing anything. I'm a dude in a healthcare job. It was my point all along.
Not sure what the guy you argued with before me was on about
But yeah, the wage gap is a myth because I'm paid relatively shitty, too, besides being a man. It is just that we have arbitrarely decided to value certain fields less and it just so happens that proportionally more women are working in them.
Making this about Genitals is missing the point. But that's what feminists do
>>679040942
>>679028143
God I hope that retarded Jew doesn't win the election.
All liberals are a scam.
It's been proven time and again that they just increase taxes and do nothing.
Meanwhile expenses on "miscellaneous" things keep getting higher.
>>679041071
>>679040160
TIL that you have no idea of what an executive does. Holy shit, that is just pitiful. That's like saying that being a politician is just traveling and talking to people or that a surgeon is just washing your hands and cutting stuff.
>>679028143
That just makes me absolutely sick too! Why is this over-privleged cracka-ass ho making so much more than these other women?
>>679041173
>>679040687
But, I've explained to you why that isn't true. If you want to continue to live in denial, then that's fine (it really explains why you support Sanders, honestly), but don't pretend I didn't try to explain it to you.
>>679041130
Me and my friend here disagree
>>679028827
THIS
>>679041194
you're right, they also go on meetings where they decide on who to lay off exactly and how big the bonus is gonna be this year
>>679035447
>If I can help you out, or someone else out, especially with a small amount of input, I'll be happy to do i
I agree with you, but i would rather choose how i give back in my own way, to local charities and aid organizations near me, so i am more directly helping my community
I dont trust the government to responsibly manage MORE of my money
>>679028827
haha /thread
>>679030272
He's only like 2 years older than that nationalist Trump, and he wouldn't even be our oldest president. He's not THAT old.
>>679041392
Man, I really wish this board wasn't anonymous sometimes.
It's going to be real fun to come back here when a democratic takes the white house again. All the back tracking and trying to explain it away that the notoriously cerebral republicans are going to have to do is going to be great.
>>679041130
FUCK
I got caught slippin
I meant democrats
I was high as fuck
>>679028143
your a retard....that is a myth. look at the disclaimer before you use a feminist poll.
IT IS ILLEGAL TO UNDER PAY A WORKER BECAUSE OF RACE OR SEX.
But retards like you keep bringing this BS data.
The Poll you are trying to refer to has been proven to be misleading as it takes all jobs males work and all jobs females work then decides that men earn more.
Well here fucktard..a real poll would have looked at the same careers and then organized them into males and females.... But this would have shown in fact FEMALES ARE PAID 5% MORE THAN MEN in the same career.
But that would not help push your victimization bullshit.
Explain how there is more females going to college now compared to men?
Just because you chose a retarded feminist degree That has NO career prospects does not mean Your choice is our fault.....it means your a fucking retard who could not think about your working future and chose a bullshit degree at $60,000...That is on you not the rest of us.
>>679041934
>IT IS ILLEGAL TO UNDER PAY A WORKER BECAUSE OF RACE OR SEX.
Implying things that are illegal don't happen literally all the time.
>>679041584
Again, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. It's easy to simplify a career to make a political point when you know next to nothing about it.
>>679041798
I've felt the same way about the poor deluded souls who think Sanders can win.
>>679030514
Alot of it is societal pressure. In many of my classes in high school, I remember quite a few instances where my English teacher would say something like "You would make a great English teacher" or "You would make a wonderful kindergarten teacher" to some girl who did something really good inclass. Meanwhile, I remember my Biology teacher saying repeatedly to the girls in my class, "Don't do bio, you're gonna end up dissecting dead bodies, and no girl wants to do that."
>>679042313
point is, fuckface, that they do not work 2511 times harder than other people
>>679041934
>tfw no matter who wins you get to see tears from one side
feels good
>>679042313
You do realize you keep saying I think Sanders can win, but I keep telling you that doesn't matter because I don't think Bernie will win the nomination, right?
Hillary will win the nomination, and she'll beat Trump.
Hillary actually LOOSES to Cruz and Kasick in general election match ups, which is why democrats want Trump to get the nomination. He's got the lowest chance of winning the general.
>>679042658
>>679029734
everything except the custody, homicide, and suicide should be per capita or for the sentencing, it should show for the same crimes
>>679028143
>>679042144
If it were happening at a business then you could contact the DoL and sue. The problem is that it isn't happening. You can't compare any illegal act to this specific one because an illegal act that one does privately is easy to hide, but something like this would be next to impossible to hide.
>>679042937
It would be easy to hide if you didn't know what the guy in the office next door was making.
Do you know the C.V.s and salaries of everyone at your workplace? I don't.
The only way you could sue is if you had that information. Most people don't have access to that information.
>>679042604
Pay isn't determined by how hard you work, retard. Pay is determined by what value you add to a company. Working a little bit harder and being a natural salesman (as an example) often adds enough value to justify you being paid that much. Then again, if it doesn't you're quickly replaced, so part of that pay accounts for terrible job security.
>>679042818
> Hillary will win the nomination, and she'll beat Trump.
A claim that is based on misleading poll results. Wait until the nominations are solidified and watch the polls change.
>>679040160
Trump's job must be so easy even a nigger like you could do it?
Why aren't you America's next president, instead of being the cuck he fired for not doing your easy job?
>>679043248
> It would be easy to hide if you didn't know what the guy in the office next door was making.
If you work for a public company this kind of information (not specifics, but averages) is readily available. That's all you need to contact the DoL, then the DoL would subpoena the company and the specifics would come out, then you could establish a class action lawsuit. Seriously, learn literally anything about this.
https://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/GWGbyOccupation-webtable1.png
https://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/GWGbyOccupation-webtable2.png
>>679043335
>Pay isn't determined by how hard you work
As if that wasn't your point a couple posts ago:
"If you put the same lack of effort into those jobs that you do into the two you have, you should be able to manage that easily."
And I stand by my point that executives add less to a company than they reward themselves for. Sure, they "decide the strategy", but usually that's just cracking the whip
And if they fuck up (so their work actually harms the company, like most recently the CEO's of VW) they drain millions more as part of their pay-off
I'm not sure why you would defend that
>>679043335
You're discounting hard data, and then offering speculation in it's place and claiming that you know better.
It's just bullshit.
>>679043737
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/women/news/2015/04/14/110959/how-the-gender-wage-gap-differs-by-occupation/
>>679028143
Isn't this horse shit because the 'statistics' are over different occupations? It's not racist and sexist if a nigger bitch secretary at a hospital earns less than a white male doctor there right?
>>679043601
Well, evidently a literal retard like Trump can do it
Have you read one of his interviews? He's a rambling fool.
He would be crapping on the sidewalk and talking about lizard people if he hadn't been born into money
>>679042144
well racisim and sexism is But FEMINISTS still do this shit daily....
You are one retarded person.....you cry "victim" at any chance and when it has been shown your wrong.....let me get this......You get TRIGGERED"
>>679043860
You are responding to two different anons. I've been wiring blast caps at the bottom of a mine for the last 15 minutes. Let's see if I die when I push this button.
Hey, you know what there's none of down here? Women.
>>679039220
No problem at all. If some choces are better, why dont people go for them?
>>679044108
>Implying Trump supporters can read.
An eletrical engineer gets paid more than an eletrician.
An engineer gets paid more than a bricklayer.
A computer scientist gets paid more than a IT guy.
It's about how much value you add to a company, it's not racism, sexism, nazism, bullshitism or whatever buzzwords leftists are using now.
>>679028635
U faggot
>>679044150
So you are on to the fact that big money controls politics.
Good job. Halfway there. Now you just need to realise that Trump isn't gonna save you from it because he's a part of it
>>679044333
It probably should have been architect gets paid more than a bricklayer.
Most engineers work on things that aren't built of bricks.
>>679044191
Because it would be a shitty world with no doctors but lots of petrol engineers
Yeah you argue, but then the market would make more demand for doctors and they would pay better. But going all the way to "no doctors" and then back to "enough doctors" when we have too few already is not a realistic scenario
>>679044283
point taken
>>679044642
Sorry, English not my first language.
Actually I'm from an almost socialist country, but I won't get going on that.
>>679042833
why thank you.....
Feminists are so retarded they can not tell the difference between
Equality...meaning everyone gets the same chances as everyone else no matter what situation they have
and
Equity....Giving some people more chances than others because of different situations
So feminism is not about Equality as they claim the want Equity which is Sexist, Racist and supposedly the exact same shit they are supposedly fighting against.
>>679028143
I can leave you with this, these statistics come from a gigantic census poll that doesn't take all of the factors into account. Factor 1: There are more working men than women, therefore, this number will be higher. Factor 2: Women generally have lower paying jobs/work less hours. Factor 3: Race is only a variable due to population. There is plenty more but I think that might sum it up. I'm not saying I do or don't support Bernie, but these statistics are so convoluted.
>>679044639
so Bernie will....... a professional politician....right
Go to your safe place and kill yourself....you are like pigeons getting bread..love getting free shit but expect everyone else to foot the bills
>>679044639
on another side Trump has the vote of the people
>>679046179
He's a politician, but not a corrupt one. I know, seems like a contradiction, but a look at his record and his net worth should give you an idea. The guy hates big money with a passion.
I'm not a fan of the fact that SJWs tend to like him but its a given seeing how hes the most progressive candidate. I don't see him pandering to their bullshit tho, he has issues he cares more about
>>679047005
well you know he NEVER had a job till he because a politician....in all that time do you know what he did?....who am a kidding you cant even do a basic search......he changed 2 signs that cost the tax payer (we know you get welfare checks) $3 million.....wow expensive signs.
The same "uncorrupt" person you claim is for you drives a Audi R8 sports car and has his staffers in Buses.....ooh and here is the best bit.
He pays his Female staffers $10.50/Hr and yet his Male staffers get $14.90/Hr. Guess he is all for equality but notice something else......well your a retard so probably not.......HE PAYS THEM UNDER THE $15/HR he claims to be "fighting" for...
He tells you he will give you free shit but your too dumb to ask "who pays for it"
>>679044639
socialism is an oligarchy, its central control. its orwellian
>>679048225
the door is that way, mouthbreather
>you.....are.....a....fag
>>679048827
Thank you....someone that is educated outside feminist studies.
You cant put brains into statues
>>679037438
Holy fuck, you're a cynical cunt aren't you? Yeah, hard work and continually acquiring skills and knowledge is how you advance. It won't change you from a fast food employee to a CEO overnight. Not sure where you fall on that spectrum, but seriously dump the 400 pound chip off your shoulder.
>>679049075
wow.....when losing a simple debate it is funny how you resort to pathetic behavior.
one day you will reach puberty one day you may have the IQ higher that 70 but till that day crying insults seems to be your way to attempt to win a argument you are losing.
Funny how you hate cold hard FACTS but instead try and tell people "feelings" are more important than the truth.
>>679028143
> corporations are greedy
> corporations only care about the bottom line
If this wage gap bullshit were true every company would hire strictly females and turn greater profits.
Fuckin SJW bullshit filled with half truths and anti white male propaganda.
>>679048225
>your a retard
>>679049662
how can you expect to understand politics when you cant even grammer
>>679049860
cant expect too much from trump supporters these days
>>679028827
>implying i give a shit
>>679042658
>>679028143
Why not include how much a jewish man makes? ;)
>>679028143
>cant
>can't
*fucked it up for u anon*
Thanks to Mr. Berns, epic fail of economy eminent.
>>679042658
Is that nigger barefoot??
>>679028143
Are those statistics corrected for experience, education, field and position?
What about that training investment right before she gets pregnant?
>>679052215
>46% of jews make more than $100,000 a year
http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Poll-Jews-highest-earning-religious-group-in-US
