will the earth be kill when betelgeuse goes supernova?
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will the earth be kill when betelgeuse goes supernova?
>>678814444
No.
good question , last question ?
Depends on when that happens.
>>678814444
>betelgeuse
>betelgeuse
>betelgeuse
Also nice quads
>>678814520
>No
its only 640 light years away. thats a pretty bloody close run for a supernova, how can you be so sure?
Any event is dangerous; any change. Debris is a big problem. Thing is it might take a million years.
>>678814444
supernovas dont occur
>>678815218
You'are mom don't occur
>>678815440
>444x444
What a coincidence
who cares, death is the only certain thing in this random universe anyway - so why give a shit if maybe 10000 generations onwards people die
>>678815296
His mom is a black hole. The supernova occurs you just can't see it because she can literally suck the light out of a room.
>>678815571
>maybe 10000 generations onwards
why is everyone so convinced its not happening for millions of years?
for all we know it could have already happened and we are sitting ducks for the gamma ray burst of the ages.
>>678814444
Will the earth be kill when the sun goes supernova?
>>678815101
The inverse square law means that very little of the blast will hit us.
Imagine a globe that's 640 LY in radius, and how vast its surface would be, and how dispersed the energy would be across it.
>>678816341
No because it won't go supernova
>>678815101
lets say it goes supernova today, it will need 640 years to actually affect earth in any way, till now i'll be long gone, so who cares
>>678816341
No. the earth will be destroyed millions, if not a billion years earlier, when the sun starts to run out of hydrogen, and instead starts reacting helium, and swells out from its current size to being a red giant - it will most likely end up with the earth getting swallowed by the sun at that point.
The sun however isnt big enough to collapse on itself and cause a supernova - after it expands to a red giant, it will instead blow away its outer layers, and then shrink and end up as a white dwarf.
a star needs to be about 8-10 times as massive as our sun, to be able to collapse into a supernova.
>>678816940
lets say it went supernova 638 years ago
>>678816940
*then
>>678816321
Best estimate is 100,000 years
And the resuits wouldn't get through the suns shielding anyway
>>678816940
but it might have gone supernova 639 years ago.
we simply dont know...
just that it will happen, and on a geological/astronomical timescale, pretty soon.
>>678817012
The sun raising its shields won't do shit if the supernova reverses the polarity of its transducer frequency.
>>678817000
well then, let's hope we will be on the side of the planet that is facing away from it. tho, if the gamma radiation is to high, it will fuck up our atmosphere and we will be goners anyway. not right away tho. we will have plenty of time to think about how fucked we are
>>678816988
finally someone that knows what he's talking about
jesus thanks you
the humans will destroy themselves much sooner that any astronomical disaster
>>678815992
This post deserves to be acknowledged.
>>678817070
It's amazing the earth is still around with all the terrible and possible shit that can happen to us. Personally I don't like to buy into the whole doomsday bullshit everybody has made trendy these days.
>>678815101
>640 light years away
It may be classified as "close" but it really isn't we'll be fine. You'd be able to see it in the sky for a couple of days though.
>>678814444
It would be extremely painful.
>>678817205
Once the supernova reverses it's polarity our sun is clear for a counter-attack. So the supernova can either try to get past our sun's defenses or get wrekt, it's choice.
>>678817781
it's a big guy
>>678814444
it's a big guy
>>678817205
shut up, Wesley
>>678817516
This. Not a single person I know thinks humans can make it. That's bullshit, we will find a way.
>>678817924
for you
Why does everyone here think Betegeuse is our sun?...
>>678819005
>implying it isn't
>>678814444
>will the earth be kill when betelgeuse goes supernova?
I hope so. Degeneracy has gone too far - humanity is no longer worth saving. I'd rather the earth blew up than my great-great-great grandchildren all be a bunch of mixed race, transsexual, nigger-fucking faggots.
>>678818231
>we will find a way
You can't find a way out of a blast radius from a distant super nova, a massive flare or ray from our own sun instantly igniting our atmosphere, a large meteor impact, even something as slight as a rogue planet entering our solar system throwing off orbital stability and either changing our distance from the sun, or cause our moon to slowly change course and colide with us.
There's a million things that could happen that could literally wipe out all life on earth instantly, and there's nothing you could do about it.
Which, by the way, is the whole point of OP's post, guess you didn't get it.
In reality, our extinction is likely inevitable. The universe SHOULD be teeming with life, and SHOULD have life far more advanced than us, why isn't it then? Likely because the universe is so chaotic, every civilization has their planet fucked by random shit before they get to a point to avoid it. It's extremely likely that the universe is littered with planets covered in the ruins and/or the long buried fossils of ancient civilizations that got to where we are or farther.
>>678817070
>>678817000
isn't light speed faster than explosion energy itself? if you see a nuke far away from you, you can watch this view for some time before it hits you right?
>>678816988
this is actually fascinating.
>>678819489
This is now a best way to kill humanity thread
I think the best way for /b/ to kill the human race is to keep denying climate change and pollute as much as possible.
>>678819659
Yup, so one day there'd be a little flash of light for a second or two, then a couple years later the energy would hit us.
In reality, the energy from a supernova would have to be from one of the closest stars to us to even impact us. As the wave travels, it spreads "thinner" outward from the point of origin. A distant supernova should be pretty much the least of our space-based worries.
Ray bursts from our sun is kinda more likely, happens constantly all the time, and if on directly hit us, poof, our atmosphere would instantly ignite.
>>678820058
nuclear weapons fag
>>678820058
giant EMP field that clings to our surface, making electricity impossible for 100 or so years.
Best way, watch society collapse, nigs chimp out and steal tv's from each other until they starve. At least that way I get to live out my life in the woods in the peace and quite.
>>678820110
How many /b/tards have access to nukes or enough political power to get them used. Almost none. We are better off investing in ways to under mind environmental protections. Many countries have lobbies or even parties who are against to the concept of global warming is happening and reducing environmental safety regulations. This is were /b/ needs to work.
>>678820268
More about this. How to make it? Emp doesn't cling though... right?
>>678816988
Sure, but will /b/ still exist at that point?
>>678820268
not able to
>>678816450
What if it becomes a GRB aimed at us?
>>678815562
That's intentional.
>>678820058
/thread
>>678816988
I'm so fine with this. Planetary nebulae are the best.
>>678815101
>640 light years
640 light years is 6.055e+15 KM you mongrel
>>678814444
who cares? the earth is flat and you all know it.
What if the american tea party movement could be influenced to want to nuke a place like mexico or north korea. Some place americans hate. Make it a political issue. /b/tards will enjoy the outrageous costumes and signs they could make for rallies.
>>678820110
>>678821687
>>678821933
Red giants don't super nova. Ya run goofed.
>>678814444
No because axial tilt.
>>678814444
Nah, you might not need to use headlights on your car for a bit tho.
In fact it could have happened already and we just don't know it yet.
>>678821812
Christ on a cracker! I think you're on to something there!
Lol you all fag, use VX8 gas the entire plant
>>678814444
Suddenly, the heart of the scorpion. Where's your god now?
>>678814444
With that quads you just doomed us all
Gamma ray burst will kill everyone on the side of the planet facing it the people on the other side of the planet will also die when the seas turn to battery acid.
>>678816988
I thought that it only needed to be like 4 or 5 times as massive?
Also I heard that when betelgeuse goes it'll look a little like a sunset, sounds like bullshit to me so does anyone have any idea what it'll actually look like?
Since this is a science thread
Does a spectrophotometer give you the extinction coefficient or do you need to still work it out? Doesn't a spectrophotometer tell you the absorptivy (which is the extinction coefficient)?
>>678814444
>>678814686
>>678815101
>>678816529
When Betelgeuse does blow up, our planet Earth is too far away for this explosion to harm, much less destroy, life on Earth. Astrophysicists say we’d have to be within 50 light-years of a supernova for it to harm us. Betelgeuse is nearly 10 times this distance.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/09/our-sun-will-eventually-turn-into-a-multi-trillion-ton-diamond.html
>Our Sun will become a white dwarf when it dies 5 billion years from now. Some two billion years after that, the Sun’s ember core will crystallize as well, leaving a giant diamond in the center of our solar system.
could beetelgeuse have already supernovaed but we just don't know it due to time it takes light to travel to earth?
>>678820268
>Niggers stealing TV without electricity
They would
>>678814444
>>678822815
Op of this post. Do any of you faggots do research on google anymore? Jesus Christ use the fucking internet you autistic fucks.
>>678816341
Actually, Earth is already in the Sun. Ever heard about sunwinds ? Auroras borealis ? Van Allen belt ?
>>678822234
access and how?
>>678822798
>spectrophotometer
>extinction coefficient
Completely out of my league. Go ask sci?
dat fun moment u relize the time it takes for a supernova to explode, over 1m yaers u fags, that big and the panamic Counter Law takes place also the Rodentic Law of Chain reaction would affect the time, plus with that much energy it will probably effect the gravity extreamly grave and we will probably spot some grave gravity activity that will create abunch of theories
Fuck u all this is now a Canis majoris thread
>>678821378
Again, inverse square law. Chances are very, very, very small.
Although we'd be fucked six ways from Sunday if it did point straight at us (or include us in its "sweep.")
Elite
>>678822732
like Independence day, or if your in a third world country, us bombing you
>>678819597
This is why I think it's important to get off this shit stain asap, the more spread out we are the less likely we are to at least get extinct by that random shit. But instead we care more about which faggot is gonna decide that's not important next i.e. El Presidente
>>678819597
>You can't find a way out of a blast radius from a distant super nova
Not going to happen, too far away
>a massive flare or ray from our own sun instantly igniting our atmosphere,
Its been billions of year and has not happened yet, it isn't going to happen. If it ever does, humans will be advanced enough to leave the planet or design some protection from it with technology.
>a large meteor impact,
We would see it coming long before it happens (Like 50+ years) and would be able to nuke it the fuck up before it hits or within those 50 years find some way to avoid it.
>even something as slight as a rogue planet
Hasn't happened in the billions of years the planet has been here. Isn't going to happen; and again, by the time it does, we will be advanced enough to leave the planet or somehow prevent extinction with technology
>cause our moon to slowly change course and colide with us.
Same as before
>There's a million things that could happen that could literally wipe out all life on earth instantly, and there's nothing you could do about it.
Except we would know and be able to take measures. Honestly, we are more likely to wipe ourselves out, or get fucked from a natural disaster like a super volcano eruption than any of the previous shit you mentioned.
>>678823087
I did but its too slow. I have absorption readings of a substance in a spectrophotometer and apparently I need to state the extinction coefficient. However, the extinction coefficient is just the absorptivity of a substance, so unsure why its asking me to state/figure it out.
>>678823294
savage
>>678823554
Well a meteor has passed pretty close before and we didn't notice till afterwards.
But I agree, we'll kill ourselves off before anything like this.
>>678823554
Not totally true.
1) We look for about 2% of the sky.
2) As far as we know, the planet has already been hurt by a massive thing (Mars sized) which probably resulted in the creation of the Moon.
Well you can see supernova from distant galaxies brighter than the whole host galaxy. That cant be good when it happens to one of our closest neighboring stars right?
You have to be within about 50 light years of a supernova for that shit to do any damage... Betelgeuse is 600+ light years away. We're more than safe.
>>678821132
Not under the same name.
>>678824453
According to what evidence? There isnt much precedent for analysing this.
>>678814444
Also. If it were to blow up, it would only hit us quickly if it was travelling at the speed of light from start till end which it prolly wouldn't.
>>678822291
that is incredible and beautiful...when I see pictures like that I realize how insignificant we all are
>>678824596
"Astronomers estimate that, on average, about one or two supernovae explodes each century in our galaxy. But for Earth’s ozone layer to experience damage from a supernova, the blast must occur less than 50 light-years away." - Nasa.
>>678824453
every supernova bursts with the same energy?
>>678814444
It's more than 600 light years away from earth, no the earth will be fine when it happens.
Look it up on Youtube, there is tons of videos about it allready.
>>678824765
No but at 600+ light years we're fine.
>>678824748
Sure a few go off... but the galaxy is what hundreds of thousands of light years across? 600 light years is real, real close.
Saying 50LY is a safe radius is educated guesswork. No one really knows because there is no precedent.
>>678825079
you dont actually need to see one though, if you know the stars mass you can work out the energy release and throw in the distance and find out how muchve it will hit us
>>678814821
underrated post
>>678825079
The radiation will spread out to the point where it is no longer a threat, if we were closer then we would get a larger dose of that radiation. Again.... we are fine bro.
I highly suggest reading the book "Odds Against Tomorrow" by Nathaniel Rich.
>>678814444
betelgeuse is just a theory. there's no"proof"
>>678814444
Shit goes crazy when sunspots act up. No one knows what will happen.
>>678825624
This. And also, how would Scientists even know the size/agf of something supposedly thousands of miles away? I love astronomy and shit but I swear half of the shit these guys come up with is made up. 90% of everything these guys discuss are just theories.
>>678825624
True but its still interesting to read about
>>678825624
wat? you can see it.... its the 9th brightest object in the night sky. There is even photos of the thing taken from hubble and other telescopes.
>>678826328
Yeah but how the fuck would you get it's height, weight, and distance from a fucking picture? These guys just "THEORIZE", IE, make shit up.
>>678825992
First of all its not just thousands of miles. It's trillions upon trillions of miles. Secondly we have telescopes and sensors that can pick up evidence about the properties of large objects. It's not just a bunch of people gathered around a table making shit up. Unlike how the Bible was written.
>>678826553
Dude I'm not all that religious either but the Bible makes way more sense than the "big bang" theory (which sounds like a name a 5 year old came up with) and they have NO evidence for ANY of this shit. Like I said, I love science as much as the next guy but a lot of this shit they couldnt possible know and obviously just make it up. Dont be naive.
>>678826484
You are literally too stupid to even argue with.
>>678814821
>>678826817
A lot of my friends are physics majors here at Cornell and the shit they talk about is crazy. The evidence exists. It's not evidence to you because you are not smart enough/have not invested enough time to know any of it enough to understand that it is evidence.
>>678819659
this isn't how waves work. if it was particles coming at us with enough energy to travel at super high speed, yes they'd be slower than the light you see, because particles can not achieve lightspeed. if it's shooting waves at us, then it will arrive at the same time. The only difference between stuff like infrared, visible light, ultraviolet etc is that our eyes can see a specific range of wavelengths.
think of it as being colourblind, the light is still there, you just cant see that colour, then substitute all other wavelengths bigger and smaller than visible light.
>>678826817
Sciencefag here but I have to agree with this anon. A lot of the newer theories these people have been coming up with is outrageous. I still follow it out of interest but I don't believe 90% of what they say.
>>678826553
>It's trillions upon trillions of miles
>trillions
holy shit grow up and use real numbers
>>678827140
Physics isnt a respected field at all (only respected by other scientists/physicists) which is why the Government invests very little in their "projects" which contribute jackshit to the world. Actually go outside and try to help fix shit here on Earth instead of talking about "beetlejuice" (you seriously believe this shit?) & other shit that doesn't exist and if they do have no fucking importance in the real world
>>678827490
Can't tell if trolling. But Google 650 light years in miles. It's 3.82 quadrillion miles. That's about 3000 trillions.
>>678826553
>Beteljuice is trillions and trillions of miles away and weighs a zillion pounds with a septillion diameter squared by a trillion
>Ok... how did you come up with that based off of a picture?
>I multiplied by 43
Basically ever Scientific explanation to every theory ever lol
>>678822885
Even if this happened, the light from the the explosion would travel faster than the actual damaging effects of the blast, so we see the explosion way before it would ever damage us
>>678827724
You're honestly retarded. Half of these guys have government contracts already and there is plenty of government funding. Who do you think funds this shit? Wall Street?
>>678827490
found the idiot
>>678828053
It's not just a picture dumbass. There's a lot more information you get. The picture is for the public. I'm not a physics major myself but quantum mechanics can get you a lot of information. When people look through telescopes they don't see pictures they see numbers.
>>678828157
Name ONE thing a physicist has contributed to the fucking world EVER
except for a "scientific theory".
Even Einstein, the most "respected" physicist(again only by other physicists)
only "contributed" the THEORY of relativity. Notice THEORY, which means its only SPECULATION, IE, not fucking real.(which is still only a theory even though they've had 30+ years to prove it now)
>>678814444
No.
>>678828482
I hope this is bait. No relativity, no satellites. We didn't get to the moon on Newtonian physics, buddy.
>>678823029
That's like saying I'm in your mom because I can smell her stank. I mean I am in there, but that's not why.
>>678826817
Are you stupid?
>>678828001
>3.82 quadrillion
>about 3000 trillion
Smdh
Nigga you should have said 4000 trillion or 3820 trillion
>>678828446
Dude even you sound like your unconvinced lol just be honest. You know its bullshit. "seeing numbers" is just shit these people say to sound smarter than everybody else otherwise nobody would believe what they had to say
>>678814444
those quads tho
>>678816940
Being this stupid...
>>678814444
where ford prefect is from?
>>678828786
Ok smartass so why is it still just a theory then? Relativity has been a theory for over 50 years i mean how long does it take to prove this shit?
>>678814444
Quads
>>678816988
Dubs>
>678817000
Trips
Rollin
>>678821407
thats the joke dumbass
>>678828482
If not for physics, we would have never gone to space. No GPS systems. Nanochips would not be invented so all technology would still be analog instead of digital. No solar panels no LEDs. No wifi no cellular service no wireless technology. Kill yourself.
>>678827140
>Hi, I'm 15 and I need to feel like my opinions are important.
>>678828892
I mean, I still love astronomy and physics, but I'll admit a good portion of it is bullshit.
>>678827724
Your lack of intelligence astounds me. Or it's B8.
>>678814444
Essential post.
>>678828482
>Notice THEORY, which means its only SPECULATION, IE, not fucking real
You dense motherfucker. Your computer relies of scientific theories as well. Does that mean your computer is not fucking real?
The difference between theory and speculation is that theories have evidence supporting it and speculations don't.
>>678828482
Gravity is theoretical. If you're too smart for theory why don't you do everyone a favor and float off to fucking space.
>>678828892
It's not like the matrix asswipe. They get data about all sorts of variables and that translates into a hypothesis that can be statistically tested.
>>678829123
A theory is not the same as a hypothesis. If somethings already made it to the theory level it is pretty much considered true. Sure Einstein's idea is just called a theory. But that theory blew up Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn't it? Is that not enough evidence?
>people still falling for the "look how dumb I can act" troll
cmon guys seriously its literally the oldest thing in the world
>>678829883
Actually your mom has the world's oldest job.
>>678829664
No.. most of the general public doesn't give a fuck about physics/astronomy or have very limited interests because time and time again scientists have failed to prove their own theories. As another anon stated in his thread, Einstein failed to prove ANY of his theories before he died. (Do your research. Not ONE of Einsteins theories is proven. They are all just theories.)
>>678828482
Tell me more about Jesus, your lord and savior.
Dumbfuck.
>>678826484
holy shit you are not only stupid, I assume you are highly uneducated. You should definitely go back to school if you dont want to waste your lifetime in a shitty plebeian job
>>678814444
Quaddro Quads! Oh Quadrimoso, moses jesus christ.
I think not. What earth embodies will rise time and time again in different multiverses and psyche is weird stuff.
>>678829971
>What is a scientific theory
I knew /pol/ was stupid, but please at least try
>>678819597
I disagree. There are likely beings who are present who are capable of forecasting coming situations and able to traverse massive distances almost instantly by bending and taking advantage of space/time to their will.
Ever see Bob Lazar? He may be a quack, but he explains how it would be possible. You would need to harness energy the likes of which has never been seen before, but had they more time to evolve, perhaps even 1000 years more than us, it may be possible that they've found this ability.
There's literally no reason why humans can't do the same, should we have the time allowed to us to do so, or perhaps, be off this rock expanding our genes throughout our galaxy in the first place (and who's to say we aren't already doing that in some way shape or form already?).
>>678821873
You think we don't already do you even politic
>>678826817
>the Bible makes sense
>dont be naive
kek
just to give you an example. moses split the ocean in half. in the next sentence it says that a fucking wind dried out the ocean. a bit later the egypt people following him get stuck in mud, which is simply wet dirt.
yeah makes perfect sense.
>>678830096
Not to defend him, but Donald Trump is practically illiterate (Not to disrespect him, but his reading/spelling borders on gradeschool level) but well versed in free trade and a very successful businessman.
>>678816988
It will actually go through two expansion cycles
>>678820080
Wait. What. Ray bursts? I'm not really familiar with anything in space so could you explain to me what that is? Also, how frequent are they and if one was to happen right now, what is the chance it would hit us?
>>678830566
Call religion stupid all you want. Science is just as stupid and has just as little evidence supporting it. They are both sides of the same coin
>>678830566
To be fair the Bible is like a DLC to Sufi tales and they were Jainism and Shamanism combined with wandering monks.
You'll either need to be raised by happy coincidences themselves or read up on all religions to even remotely make sense of the cultural and psychological aspect of any religion.
(And don't make it your job, try to get literally anything useful instead and use it to fix your own kids if you have any in case they run into some weird religion)
>>678830652
This is very true. Trump is essentially a moron when it comes to straight up knowledge. Rather, he's invested his time and life into learning the loopholes/principals of investing/real estate.
He's even learned how to do orchestrated, organized bankruptcies in order to rebuild capital - something which only the smartest of accountants have done.
He's essentially the walking embodiment of "education isn't everything" because whilst essentially a moron when it comes to everything else, he does business like nobody else. He's even willing to sell his own image to garner money to invest into other ventures.
The guy is ruthless as fuck.
>>678830724
They always happen. Chance to be hit is minimal.
But we get hit from time to time. That's where the magnetic field of earth comes in, thanks to a molten metal core we have a sort of deflector shield against low-lever energy beams (we would be grilled by the sun by now if we didn't)
>>678826484
Learn2science.
>>678830935
I.E, invested his life into something thats actually fucking IMPORTANT. Not theorizing "stars" that weigh "infinity" that are "zillions" (according to scientists) of miles away.
It's already happened. The light has not hit us yet due to the distance. God why don't you take an God why don't you take an astronomy class
The person who likes the common average most gets to become it's leader. That's democracy for you. If Trump wins and you don't kill him you are accurately represented by Trump. Which also means he wouldn't go shoot people so that's something America should learn.
*runs away to Gunfags going correct*
>>678814444
no, everyone except the blacks will get skin cancer
>>678816988
astronomy is such bullshit. how can you be so sure about such intangible and unfathomable things?
>>678828482
Name One thing the bible has contributed to the world EVER.
War doesn't count.
>>678831602
Idk man, even if it was due to associating the color yellow with the element of fire and pissing in chanted on urns we kind of survived the black Plaque.
>that face when its impossible to tell the difference between a troll pretending to be as stupid and ignorant as possible and the average American
>>678831602
Not to mention the Red Cross organization that you can donate blood too so lil' kids get to see tomorrow.
I'm not a fan what they did to the Norse Gods but at least the Christians offer free healthcare- edit that out.
>>678831577
>I don't understand shit, that's why it can't be true
you know you sound like those people who think the earth is flat?
I thought VY Cygnus posed the bigger threat?
>>678828101
High as fuck right now, but think about planets with life on it all the way out there. Just a bunch of planets full of creatures smart as fuck or like us (dumb as shit) getting blasted by that shit. Makes you feel bad.
Also this threads pretty fucking good.
>>678822690
Lol battery acid
I hope Plnet X sends a couple of asteroids our way to depopulate the earth a bit
:-(
>>678814444
look at that shit res texturing. We'll be fine
>>678831602
Lol okay, I was just lurking, and wasn't going to bother responding to all of the obvious bait in this thread, but why is it athiests ALWAYS seem to antagonize religion whenever the opportunity arises? It's almost as if they identify as athiest SOLELY for the sake of opposing religion (for whatever reason that may be). The one anon debating is making some very rational points in this thread, very few Scientific theories are proven (though that does not discredit all of them). I don't think religion and Science must live in opposition. I believe Science is God's foundation of the Universe, and what he used to built it. I believe the Big Bang is just a description of Genesis, but we just don't know it yet.
>>678832933
If God's real he probably laughs in the faces of people who follow religion
>>678815162
Is this real?
Oh god, I never realized I need to see supernovas. Supernovae? huh
>>678832933
Because religion is fucking stupid, and it's annoying as fuck to have adults believing in retarded fairy tales. How would you feel if everyone around you started saying they believed in Unicorns? Shitty right? Annoyed? Exactly.
>>678832933
What if gods a scientist?
Would he look like Bill Nye?
>>678833205
It goes both ways, man. Athiests are generally viewed as angsty and childish.
>>678832933
You're book is bullshit, idiot.
>>678833382
We're not the ones blowing up airports in return for 72 virgins
Now that's childish
>>678833304
I believe God is a Scientist, just not in the human sense of the term. He designed the cosmos and everything within it - even the fabric of time itself. If that isn't a Scientist I don't know what is.
>>678833382
Of course they are, the people who think so are borderline retarded, and believe in magic. I'd be pissed too if I believed in fairy tales, and people kept using obvious facts to disprove my Iron Age book that has no foundation in today's society.
>>678833638
A scientist studies science, not creates it. So now you know what it is. Dolt.
>>678833614
This.
>>678833382
only in america
>>678833814
And the middle east...
>>678831064
Thanks
>>678832933
I hate how religious people try and base their evidence on a book that requires faith.
Faith = Having a strong sense of belief in something regardless of limited/or no evidence.
In any religious debate religious people refer to scriptures which is not evidence
>>678833205
You just demonstrated that you're too lazy and/or stupid for theology. Do you dumb atheist faggots REALLY think you're the first people in history to question theism? Fucking Plato wrote about it. Classical philosophers wrestled with these matters, and brilliant Renaisaance men (including DesCartes and Newton) were committed theists. Are you smarted than them?
But you aren't interested in actual truth or wisdom, or thinking about serious matters spiritual. Thinking is hard. So you just adopt whatever is easiest and most justifies you doing what you want, and then crow about how "smart" you are.
Intellectual midgets, imagining others to be fools so you yourselves can feel wise. Pathetic.
Thomas Aquinus offered proofs of God centuries ago. Go disprove them and become famous. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're stupid, arrogant children.
>>678833646
Less than 4% of the world's population is athiest. So you believe you're smarter than 96% of thr 7billion people on this planet? If THAT isn't childish I don't know what is.
>>678834133
So someone proved their was a God, yet there are still like 100 religions, all with their own dogmas. Sure buddy. I guess that was a nice try.
Without proof, all that text is still retarded. You don't have to be 'as smarted' as a philosopher to know there isn't any truth to any of the current man made religions.
2/10 made me reply to that nonsense.
>>678833930
maybe, idk
but in my country its just normal, especially for our generation. i dont know a single religious person our age
>>678831577
>>678832080
No, he has a point. We can only observe from one point and that's from earth.
It's like 3d pictures in 2d: it works if you see it from certain angle, if we change the angle illusion will be broken. we live in three dimensional world that is an illusion of four dimensional world.
>>678834198
Assuming that was true (it isn't) you aren't considering the fact that 24% is Muslim. Are you Muslim? No? So you are just as much an Atheist to every religion but your own, you fucking retard.
Duh?
>>678834198
This. Might not be exactly 4% but it's a very small minority.
>>678834133
Brother, you don't need to resort to hostility to prove a point, lol. Again, realize this is an online forum where everyone is free to express their opinions - do not persecute them.
Again, I don't believe religion and science are enemies. I believe they are one in the same. A lot of Scienific theories correlate with verses in the bible. I think eventually, Science will just end up proving the existence of Him on their own accord.
>>678834198
>Can't spell Atheist
>Makes up stats
Who cares what the majority is? The majority still have zero proof of any Gods. Case closed.
>>678834070
Any argument is easy to win when you simply ignore your opponent's evidence and arguments based on it. If the defense is excluded from offering evidence, how can the prosecution lose? Congratulations on your show trial victories.
You know who show trials persuade? The already converted.
>>678814444
>4 is considered to be an omen of death by many cultures
>there's four 4s
>op is death
We're literally dead
>>678834483
Not even that anon but holy fuck you're autistic. READ what you write before you post it.
>>678833706
Good point
>>678834531
You are an Atheist friend. You do not believe in Zeus, Allah, Ganesha, etc.
So 70% of the world's religions are just as much a fairy tale as yours are to them.
So much for 4%.
That statistic would only make sense if there was ONE religion, and even then there would be no proof, just the book with 100's of contradictions telling you to kill your kids for being bad, and pay for the girls you rape.
Nope. Only part that could do damage is the Jets that would come out its poles, and those are not pointed at us. We will get an amazing light show though.
Prove god is real without using scriptures
>Protip: you can't
>>678834673
Apparently you're retarded? It was clear to me. He made a solid point, one of which no theist can answer. Every Muslim thinks you're nuts, and does not believe in his Jesus, just like they do not believe in his Mohammed.
Is that any clearer or do we need like flash cards?
>>678834483
to be fair muslim, jew and christian is all basically the same thing
>>678834376
>I don't know what the fuck you're talking about
>I've never heard of Aquinus
>but I'm going to pretend I understand what you said and what I'm talking about, because fuck introspection and humility
>I'm a motherfucking 4chan genius because I don't believe ideas I don't understand
Class A intellectual laziness and rationalization. Way to prove my point.
>>678834792
You can't prove he is real even with scriptures. The book is retarded.
See>>678833435
>>678833435
>>678834935
No, Muslims believe in the Qu'ran, and Mohammed speaking directly to God. Jews believe the Messiah has not come yet, and Christians believe that Jesus was the Messiah, and no one can speak to God without him.
So no, not even close. They are all Abrahmic, but they are not the same religions. Each religion promises eternal fire for believing in the other.
>>678834729
No disrespect my friend, but your proclamation is biased lol.
>>678834945
Rationalization? You believe in false deities, and I am the one rationalizing?
oooooo....k.
>>678834792
your mother didn't drown you as a child.... that's gotta be some divine intervention.
>>678835140
Not even slightly, there isn't even an opinion in the post, at all. Just fact.
Sorry friend.
>>678817601
Your great-great-great and-so-on grandchildren might see it yeah.
>>678835244
She probably would have had she been a Christian, since they are known for killing in the name of the Lord who 'tells them to'
>>678834792
Again, it goes BOTH ways. Science is in a sense another form of religion as there is no evidence to support 90% of it. It also requires a sense of "faith". I'm not going to resort to childish insults, but I personally believe Science is absolutely stupd, hypocritical, and unfounded.
>>678834565
"I have zero proof that you exist. Therefore, anyone who believes you exist is stupid.
What? You expect me to believe words on an image board? That's retarded. You're obviously a myth."
Wow, that sure is easy. Stupid, but easy. I see the appeal... if you're a lazy faggot who doesn't actually care about if you're right or not.
>>678835244
Or it's human instinct and coniditioning to care for a child
Look at the radical religious retard resorting to violence again
Kek
>>678835360
respect bro for keeping a level head while stating your beliefs. only adult in this thread
>>678835375
>I have zero proof that you exist
No buddy, NO ONE HAS ANY PROOF OF ANY GODS EVER.
>>678816988
>White Dwarf
>Red Giant
where is Pink Man in this story ?
>>678835360
Both the Mayans and Egyptians knew the world was round
It's fact the world is round
Christianity said it was flat
Religion loses again
>>678835107
but the mythological root is the same for all of them. they differ in who they think talks to god but the god theyre talking to (or not) is the same one
>>678835218
Yes. Open a dictionary, peasant. Words have meaning. There are entire academic disciplines dedicated to clear thinking and communication. You suck at both. You're idea of argument is insults, sarcasm, and arrogant posing.
Exactly to type.
4% are Atheists
KEK
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism#Geographic_distribution
More like 30%.
>>678835488
The existence of yourself and the cosmos we inhabit is in itself PROOF of His existence. GENUINELY think about the "Big Bang" theory... does it honestly make ANY sense at all? Yet you believe it, because for whatever reason you have faith in it. I am not even the overtly religious type but this is a very simple concept. You have your "theories". I have my scriptures.
>>678835360
>there is no evidence to support 90% of it
the definition of science is an evidence based approach to investigation of reality. if theres no evidence for something it isnt science.
>>678834133
>are you smarted than them?
>>678835466
>>678835627
Words have meaning. Open a dictionary. Yes, all these things are proving that your Iron Age idiot guide to the galaxy is the right belief.
What a fucking retard. Enjoy 'Heaven'. I'm sure your religion is the right one.
I don't know
>>678835349
>>678835407
not even religious but ok. kek, kek all day
>>678835744
Yes, you have a book which makes very little sense, and I have the same book, which after I read it, still makes very little sense.
Maybe check out EvilBible.com and see if you really believe in your scriptures.
>>678835778
Lol
>>678835744
Breh your god said he made us using mud
>>678833435
Holy shit
>You're
>>678814444
i hope it will
>>678835814
fucking shit atheists are really fucking dense arrogant and annoying
>>678835488
>existence of evil
>existence matter
>matter = energy
>energy can be neither created nor destroyed, yet it exists
>medical recoveries unexplained by science, including post mortem out of body experiences
>animals whose characteristics defy evolutionary theory
I was just at a physics seminar last month where a CERN physicist was giving a lecture on distribution of particle traits and the reason behind it; on his list was "intelligent design," because all the other explanations failed in experiment.
But yeah. No reasons to think the divine might exist.
>>678836102
Prove god exists rather than claiming someone is dense for not believing in what you believe
Provide some form of evidence
Faith isn't seeing is believing
You're as hypocritical as "these atheists"
>>678835913
>basing your beliefs on a WEBSITE
Atheist logic 101
>>678835586
...what? It was known among the educated since ancient fucking Greece that the world was round. Hint #1: round shadow on the moon.
Columbus wasn't a heretic for thinking the world was round. Everyone thought that.
>>678836215
What do we define as evil?
One who doesn't abide by the law?
One that does not follow your religion?
"Evil" and "good" are social constructs
It's whatever society defines it as
That's not evidence of a gods existence
Qu'ran endorces woman oppression. Is that considered good?
>>678814444
Im more worried about the sun falling out of orbit and crashing somewhere on Earth.
>>678836264
The fact that an incessant waste of life such as yourself is fucking breathing is proof enough you idiot.
You know why Christians HATE atheists? Because they are like stuck up fucking under appreciating children who constantly "demand proof" when all they have to do is look in the mirror. Keep thinking your intelligent and somehow uniquely smart for not believing. EVERYONE knows you are the TRUE idiot.
>>678835407
plus this human instinct and conditioning to care for a child doesn't work over all does it if something as retarded as religion can stop it xD
>>678836404
Why does that old testament say the world is flat then?
Fucking idiot
>>678835778
Pedantism. The last refuge of Internet fools.
>it's irrelevant that you've completely embarrassed my shit reasoning, because I found a typo! I win!
Fucking kill yourself. You bring shame to your family.
>>678836603
the book has very little to do with the truth thats why they made it...
>>678836603
Please cite which book and verse explicitly states that
>>678836568
I'm not athiest.
I'm a mason so I'm required to believe in a deity.
You're an atheist to me because you don't follow my religion.
>>678835814
A petulant, sarcastic admission of defeat. Again, exactly to type.
Go shave your neckbeard.
>>678836822
go argue with more neckbeards
>>678836765
I respect all religions, as long as you BELIEVE in something and stay true to what you believe in, and I think most (Americans) do, which is why we have freedom of religion in the first place. If atheists simply didn't believe in God and left it at that, I would pity them but respect their right to make their own decisions. However, atheists are only atheists to "prove" religion doesn't exist.
>>678816988
hitlerdubs speak the truth.
>>678837124
this
>>678836491
You have assumed your own conclusion and clearly don't understand the point, anyway.
If there is an objective evil, then what people have to say about it is irrelevant. They don't make it up any more than they make up the gravitational constant. They discover it only. Someone's misinterpretation doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
And ironically, the people who say it doesn't exist are the ones most responsible for great evil. See: the Killing Fields.
We are all living in the matrix being tentacle fucked by robots and jewish aliens
>>678836603
Prove it, Mr. Evidence.
>>678837285
This
Went from supernovas to religion. Is the sole purpose of an any religion/atheist is to derail every fucking science thread?
ITT: atheists look real fucking stupid
Religious and lurking /b/
Bunch of sinners
I feel sorry for Americans
>>678816529
this
>>678837727
It's the scifags that ruin their own threads with their anti christianity dogma. Yet more proof that Science is more self destructive than it is anything else.
When I go to heaven can I have sex because I hate being a cucked religious faggot ;-(
>>678837746
I think most of /b/ is religious...hell just because I believe in God doesn't mean I'm not Human and dont fap every now and again lol
>>678838033
Explains why its full of racism and homophobia then
>>678836491
>Qu'ran endorces woman oppression. Is that considered good?
Yes.
>>678838033
Repent for your sins you unworthy sub species
America
Land of the free
Carry guns while reading bibles
Join the Westboro Baptist Church today
a bit off topic guys but I love these kinds of posts. Can someone link me to a video or something about space that will mindfuck me? Like how many earths can fit inside beteljuce? That kind of thing.
