If God exists why did he make so many shitty fucking religions?
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>>678249837
to test your faith, retard
>>678249837
You butt hurt that you don't have an imagination of your own or something?
If God exists why doesn't he smite things like he did in the old days?
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Religionfags: 0
>>678249837
he didn't make the religions; each is a different version of the "truth"
>>678249989
I'm too autistic to comprehend what you just said...
>>678249939
In what religion?
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>>678250025
because people like /b/tards started consuming the planet
>>678249837
It's called options.
>>678249837
>>678250025
>Implying god has to be a "he" "she" or even an "it".
>>678250037
Then why do they want to kill each other so much?
Atheists: 4
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we're all the same
You- 1
Me- 1
>>678250037
yeah "truth" in quotes
>>678250298
How about the?
if god isnt real then how come we can replicate humans without sex?
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me 222
>>678249837
To weed out the unworthy
God: 9001
You: 0
>>678250037
>implying religion has any value
>2016
>muh current year
>>678250629
hey, placebos work pretty good
>>678250337
because they think the other ones are wrong
>>678250624
God is not stronger than Goku
>>678250100
I'm saying you aren't imaginative enough to even think of god as something else. If there is a "god" why'd you even call it a "he" or why would it be anything at all? It is because it is. Something someone couldn't comprehend, you wouldn't even be able to call it an "it". Not saying there IS such a thing, but there damn well might fucking be. Or maybe there isn't. Wouldn't matter either way.
>>678250724
kek
>>678250763
shit nigga
>>678250298
God oppresses me with his cis normative, heterotypical privilege
>>678250629
First you accept the faggots.
Then you let the faggots marry
Then you ally with the faggots
>see hot guy
Then you become a faggot
Then you adopt orphans
Then they become faggots
Faggot
>>678250763
>being this autistic
>>678250513
Not even. Whatever our mortal minds may call it, we'd call "it" the universe. IF there is such a thing as a "god" it is. It is not "the" or "he" or "them" or anything you can make tangible or imagine being tangible. It's petty to think about shit that doesn't matter.
>>678250892
i think he has more privilege than all that
like commanding the millions of retarded followers to not use comtraception
>>678250760
God made the chink who made goku.
God: 9002
Goku:9001
>>678251062
Goku became God, he can beat God
Athiest or not, wouldn't it be fun to walk into an lgbt club/meeting dressed as a priest, slowly look each person in the eye, and then say "you're all going to hell"
>>678251047
Stop word-raping me with your counterpoint. This is a safe space, and your attitude threatens everyone's safety, and could trigger negative feelings.
>>678251299
It'd be more fun to join Isis and blow yourself up, you should volunteer
>>678251256
God made your mom, and since she chose to drink and swallow cum while pregnant at 15, you were born autistic
>>678251022
Use your fucking brain and think outside of the realm of physical or even imaginative constructs. You can't because your fucking brain dead and too stupid or too much of a pussy to use what's called an imagination. Graduate high school first too.
>>678251308
Your fucking a white male
>>678249837
i used to fuck God.
she'd come over sometimes while her boyfriend was away after school.
once the door would close she'd almost instantly get naked. most times she'd put on her favorite song and start sucking. then she would cry. her tears and makeup would drip down her face onto my dick. its surprising how cold tears are. eventually i finally asked her what was wrong. in between licks she told me that her favorite song was also her bfs favorite song. so even though she loved hearing it and it totally got her pussy wet, it also made her think about the fact that she was cheating on her boyfriend. i dont think i ever came harder down somebodies throat then right after she told me that. she was beautiful. we dont hang out anymore. wanna get lunch?
this was the song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVI4Knz24CQ
>>678251531
I reject your false binary gender descriptors.
>>678251515
>imagination
>graduate high school
kys
>>678251449
Tbh I'd rather be shot out of a freedom cannon into a crowd full of Arabs. I mean it's better to stand with America now, than with an Islamic state that fucks goats and doesn't even know not to stand behind an rpg
>>678251515
Sorry if I triggered your autism spasms
>>678251868
What's the difference, you're on the same level of backwoods hicks that get a boner over guns and hate on gay people because you're afraid you might be gay yourself
If God exists why did he make America so fat and stupid?
If God exists then why do black lives matter more than whites?
>>678252295
They don't, never have, and never will.
If God exists then why should we follow that goat burning Jew killing pile of shit?
If God exists why are people voting for Trump?
>>678251515
Religion does nothing for anyone who wants to follow it, God is a lie just like any other man has conceived, there is no evidence and never will be, because God is a fabricated story like all religion.
>>678252769
>it's actually a trilby
>>678252206
To smite America for having the vanity to believe it is Christian and God-fearing when it is actually an empire that is draining the world of its resources through coercion, deception, and "counterintelligence operations."
Fat because on shitty diets, stupid because riddled with brain-parasites... and the cause of these causes are ignorance and apathy. We are content to have faith in government. We do not believe in God, we believe in government. Whatever it is most people call God, and claim they are devoted to, is nothing of substance. If it were, they would pull themselves up from this mud.
Yet, I say this to be proved wrong. I already know I am wrong. I know that optimism is closer aligned to an intimacy with Truth. I am not always aligned with the Universe...
>>678252769
There's no proof god doesn't exist. And you're still dumb enough to think god is a being of any sort.
>>678253108
why would people rise up if they were devoted to a god rather than a government
>>678254129
I submit that god is mel gibson. prove me wrong.
Oh for fuck's sake, not this shit thread.
>>678254502
I can't, you can't prove either side. Would defeat the purpose of god if you understood it.
>>678254502
>Says god isn't a being
>"he could be Mel Gibson"
That makes him a being, retard.
>>678249837
>all religions are just paths towards freedom from reincarnation
>all gods are just a different incarnation of the same entity
prove me wrong faggots
>>678255034
You fucking can't because god isn't something a mere mortal could eve begin to understand. Who gives a fuck? Just jerk off and eat pizza bagels or something.
>>678254808
the purpose of god is to not understand god?
>>678254996
that's what YOU say. I say god IS a being, and he is mel gibson. and you can't prove me wrong, retard.
I don't believe in God but I wish I could be as naive as you idiots, I wish I believed some old white guy was looking over me always. But alas I live here in reality where it means no difference to believe, therefore pointless and stupid.
God speaks so loudly that all we hear when we listen is silence.
>>678255189
anon that is your path towards freedom, follow it to the end. Follow it to the pizza bagel and porn loving incarnation of our creator
>>678255034
>freedom from reincarnation
Reincarnation would be freedom if we could just keep our memories
>>678249837
because he doesn't exist and only the functionally retarded think otherwise
>>678255375
Just because what you say sounds mysterious doesn't prove anything
>>678249837
It's because it's a simple matter of "divide and conquer". Think about it.
>>678255554
Nice almost get
>>678255555
The steal
>>678254338
If we look at religion as a way for collective wisdom to be passed down hundreds of generations, there are laws built in to those systems of belief.
Pastors and religious leaders are afraid to lose their tax exemptions, their 501(c)3; they will not teach that our government's actions are repugnant to God, and that "laws that contradict God's law are no law at all."
See, when we meant to separate church and state, we certainly didn't mean that it was admissible for the state to give money to the church. When we enumerated the powers delegated to the national government by the several states, we did not authorize the consolidated government to give money to schools. Nor to give money to the poor. Nor did we say it could print money.
Pastors are afraid to admit, "I am taking money from the government and I turn a blind eye to their depredations on the liberty of you, my dear sheep. I have let the wolves into our congregation because they have given me a cut."
>>678255257
Nobody can understand the purpose of God. God may not even have a purpose. There may not be a god. But there might. To say you don't believe in god is just stupid as fuck to say because there's literally no way of telling if there is or isn't. You may be god. I may be god. We may all be god and exist in each others own imaginative constructs or some stupid philosophical bullshit. Big whoop.
>>678256120
Kill yourself
>>678255703
Wasn't really trying to prove anything.
More along the lines of; If the universe started from one central point of space and expanded into everything we experience now, then God is either seperate(outside of the universe, observing) or the universe is all part of God, the old drugtrip "We are the uni experiencing itself, man".
If every persons timeline(their whole life) is a thread spanning back to the beginning, etc. too drunk to continue this thought...
>>678256334
Kill yourself
>>678256322
Or you could argue other wise and you could say more dumb shit
Humanity; the great torn patchwork fabric veiling the eye.
To seek god is to be seen.
>>678256663
Cool, that's all you can contribute. How is life?
>>678256120
>Nobody can understand the purpose of God
Okay so if you can't understand the purpose of god then how can you say you know what DEFEATS the purpose of god?
>>678256710
>>678256663
That guy wasn't me, for the record.
>>678255257
>>678256954
this is me
>>678256954
I don't know, because there might not even be a god in the first place.
>>678257094
Okay good. I was worried.
>>678257138
Then why is everything? Would not the source be known as god?
>>678256120
I agree, it's like saying "There is no universe," or, "There is no beauty."
I hate being asked if I am religious or if I believe in God. But maybe one day I'll be able to say, "yes."
I have to be logical and thorough. In conversation, God as a topic is a means to an end. Certainly is so for some fuckheads at pulpits lining their pockets with taxpayer money, their cockholes with alterboy feces, and their consciences with the misguided and famished spirits of their followers.
Haha. Honestly tho, there is a lot of beauty in contemplating God. Fuck other people's definition if those definitions bother you, or prevent you from caring to imagine what this "God" may be.
>>678249837
>Be muhammad
>Married to rich old bitch
>have seizure in cave
>god tell me all of you must do whatever I say
>err.. what god is saying through me
>man can have 4 wives, but I have 5
>I can rape all the slaves I want
>I can kill whoever I want
>I can get a divorce to marry a child
>pre-pubescent sex
>Hot damn being in charge rules
>err.. I mean serving Allah's will
>Anyone who disagrees should be killed
>my descendants get to rule the Empire
>Literally only them
MFW people believe the most psychopathic, self-indulgent maniac in recorded history is any thing but a liar.
>>678257357
What is your opinion on those televangelists arguing for more than one private jet?
>>678257564
The belief in an overseeing force has nothing to do with human history
>>678257338
Maybe, if "it" has a name at all. There is no definite answer to any of it because "God" encompasses everything. Everything that was, is, will be, might be. Encompasses everything that isn't, can't be, impossible. God is because it is. Sort of, maybe.
>>678257587
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67YwPMz5VuI
Frank Zappa dedicated this song to a televangelist, Jimmy Swaggert, who had just been caught sticking "just the tip" into a prostitute.
Listen to the whole thing it's hilarious. Also, it's my opinion.
>>678257338
Then what God made God?
>>678257887
But if something isn't, then how could it be called God? If a thing does not exist in thought or form, is it still a part of God, or is it something else?
Is that even possible?
>>678258077
>shit HAS to be made
>>678258069
I forgot to add, the lyrics are improvised in so far as they allude to Swaggert. Zappa is so great.
CHECK AND MATED ATHEISTS!
>>678258077
That's the question. Personally I like the whole flatland theory thing.
A 2d being cannot percieve a 3d being properly. Likewise for us with higher forms of life. And so on.
Or something like that.
>>678258105
Maybe. Dunno, no way to tell. Which is why philosophy is bullshit, it's just a cooler word for "thinking". It doesn't even have to be an original thought.
>>678258077
You missed the whole point of god not even being a thing of any sort or having a thought process at all.
>>678258239
lel, pretty much what I wrote a paragraph trying to explain.
Listen, the nature of existence is something we do not have the capacity to understand. We might turn in to legos when we die. Prove me wrong
We think we're so special that we deserve something after death.
We are tiny and empty
>>678249837
God also hates fags, but op was born
>>678258824
A little jaded there huh?
You don't have to think you're special to "deserve" anything though.
Who knows, what you have now could carry on after death, ex. your conciousness, in some other form.
To say that nothing happens is just naive. If nothing happens after death, then tell me, what is happening *now*?
>>678258824
And nothing has made me realize this more than smoking DMT a few times.
Experiencing my body shatter into thousands of fireworks which danced and burned brightly was something I will never forget. And, very usefully, that memory has served as fuel for me to explore the ideas of death, God, and transformation. Etc.
>>678258239
But if shit doesn't have to be made then why is it necessary to insinuate that God made the Universe, your logic is retarded
>>678259395
There is a sum of happenings that includes everything that has ever happened. What is happening right now means as much as oprah having to repay a $20 debt
We are empty, everything has emptiness
If God created everything then why didn't we know about God until 6000 years ago? If the universe is 4 billion years old then is God an infant?
>>678259596
Why is it necessary to insinuate otherwise? You mean you don't know? You don't even have logic to call retarded, so i'm just going to say that you yourself are retarded.
>>678259534
An important moment, contemplate on
>>678260099
Why does everyone have to think god is a being at all?
>>678259395
not the guy you are talking to, but I believe nothing happens after death.
HOWEVER, I also believe something kinda strange. I think that --objectively-- there is no experience after death; nevertheless, --subjectively-- experience is stretched into an infinite, timeless state of being.
tl;dr I believe that as we approach the moment of death, "time" is stretched out into infinity for the subject.
Happily, I have heard that the majority of near-death experiences are positive, and are described as being "like Heaven" or "paradise." Be happy now, do your best to be honest with yourself and the world around you, and you'll have excellent chances of meeting death with the courage not to fight the experience.
If there is a loving God, then why does He permit heinous crimes like this? Why doesn’t He intervene? The Christian cannot accept the claims of some that God “is not perfect and there are some things God does not control.”
My wife, Barb, and I suffered the tragic loss of our daughter Rhoda a few years ago. We know that such pain never really goes away. Yet, one thing is certain: The existence of evil does not eliminate God. Rather, it cries out for Him. In his book “Mere Christianity,” former atheist C.S. Lewis noted, “My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line.”
This is where the argument of evil as evidence against God’s existence boomerangs into an argument for His existence. If there is an ultimate moral standard or law of justice, then there must be an ultimate moral Law Giver. Without His moral law we would not even know what evil really is. And without His spiritual comfort we would not be able to endure evil—at least not with any realistic hope and comfort. As the Apostle Paul said, we sorrow but not as those who have no hope (1 Thessalonians 4:13). And without His great power and love we would have no hope of ever getting a better world. Only a God who can bring good out of evil can solve this world’s problems. Amid evil like the killings at Virginia Tech, we can cry out to God for comfort. Had it not been for all the Scripture I had committed to memory, such as Psalm 23; Isaiah 26:3, 40:31; John 14:1-6; Philippians 4:4-6; 2 Corinthians 4:17 and others, I don’t know what I would have done when our daughter died. I’ll never forget the trip from Asheville, N.C., to Charlotte after hearing of her untimely death. It was the longest two-hour trip I have ever taken.
>>678260333
I like that you mentioned time as its relative to death. Or maybe you didnt mean to, idk
Time exists in the physical realm as a consequence of space also existing. Space and time are the same, and in an afterlife with no physical space there is also no time
Nigger
>>678260998
9/11 was real
>>678249837
if God exists he's a motherfucker
fuck him and fuck all who worship him
>>678260333
Checkin' those trips.
That's another theory I'm fond of. To expand on that, let's say that our conecpt of time is wrong.
Events don't happen one after another, but all at once. That essentially makes reality infinite. Say that our perception of reality is limited, so that we cannot observe all of time. Death frees us from these limitations, and our mind expands infinitely.
What am I going on about...
>>678261085
Nice try fam but a skeltal nig ruined it for you
>>678261085
7/11 was a part-time job.
>>678261278
What's your weed guy's number?
>>678249837
Every religion has a piece of the true religion, which is a relationship with God
We don't crave a system and we'll never be satisfied with a system. We crave a person, a superior being with a mind and will
But another part of us knows we're not worthy of having a relationship with such a great being, which is where Christ comes in
Every religion has a piece of the truth, but Christ is a real person who intercedes with God for us
He is the one and only true high priest
>>678261768
*shrug*
Quantum physics, maaan. Particle accelerators, mann.
We're close to figuring it all out. Fo' real.
>>678261862
>We don't crave a system and we'll never be satisfied with a system. We crave a person, a superior being with a mind and will
Why would I crave that? This is an archaic assumption. I don't crave that. I strive to BE that person. And this is the difference between the future and retardation.
>>678261278
I don't mean to be haughty, but I believe that my theory takes yours a step further. Or at least I want that to be the case :)
I agree with what you say, that we expand into infinity. It's like, in order to exist and play the game of life, the universe has organized itself into the rules and limitations that are our bodies and minds. To play a game, we have to suspend disbelief and create rules; when there are no rules, there is no game.
"Events happen all at once." This forces us to consider the relationships which all things have, each particle with every other particle in the universe.
While we are living, our brains are organizing information into manageable stimuli, and organizing those stimuli into comprehensible feelings, and those feelings are recruiting the powers of imagination in the cortex to think thoughts that may be useful for their purposes.
>>678261862
Buddhism you dumb fuck
Well it's obvious there's not evidence of God's existence, but the idea that God might exist lands in faith or the gap of science that has not been discovered or explained, and that gap is continuously shrinking.
a christian here and i can answer all of your question if you can stop being autistic here. why'd all suddenly have down syndrome when this thread started
i love how people actually fall for the bait
>>678262755
I agree. Any kind of religious structure becomes too limiting.
>>678262865
You fags should 69 each other while you read Alan Watts.
>>678249837
GOD SET THE RULES AND THEN THE PROPHETS RUINED THE RELIGIONS BY ADDING LIES ON TO TO WORD OF GOD...
>>678262946
It is very safe to say that the god described in any religion is very false.
That doesn't mean there is a being that exists that we would consider god.
>>678262927
Fuck buddha, if i see him on the road imma kill that motherfucker
>>678249939
god would know everything so there is no need to make the universe in order to test something
>>678250298
you deist? im guessing. my nigga
>>678250763
>Something someone couldn't comprehend
Probably because some mentally ill, charismatic assholes pulled the idea out of their ass.
>>678260205
You made the argument that it was necessary to be a creator yet think there no reason for the creator to have a creator, nice b8 retard
>>678249837
Free will
Next question?
>>678262865
Yea, I see what you mean.
We should try changing this thing a bit.
>>678263318
maybe there was just bad reception between santa and the prophets
>>678249837
The world would be boring if all people were white.
>>678263384
While I agree anything without evidence can easily be dismissed without evidence, there will always be individuals who believe a divine entity exists by the very things that can't be explained by science or not yet discovered. It's unfortunate for those individuals have a need of this for some form of spirituality.
>>678264113
>white
>implying atheists are all white
>implying race is a choice like religion
>>678264017
We could try evolving a new sub-structure, like so
>>678264897
WHAT HAVE WE DONE
>>678264113
I don't think one can be sure of that because boring is based experiencing the limitations of something. Is it possible a color might exist that the human eye cannot see? Could you imagine something, like a piece of art, that doesn't resemble anything we haven't seen? I believe this would be a basis of what we don't know, and we can't assume to deem something boring because the possibility of something else exists. I'm fairly certain humans would deem beauty, ugly, less or more intelligent, superiority/inferiority, and any other kind of variations on the basis of other kinds of anatomical appearances.
>>678264017
I would love for gene experimentation to be happening. Unfortunately, there is an array of bullshit preventing us from doing so.
In the meantime, psychoanalysis is a cool thing to study. Freud is the man, yo. He pioneered all that shit. He said, "no one likes me? Well fuck all of you I'm going to show you everything you hide from yourself and I'm going to show you that the fearful things you apprehend are never the fearful things which actually surround you."
>>678250892
kek
>>678250037
I'm so sick of tards saying this.
There is literally no reason to claim/believe that EVERY SINGLE fucking religious belief system contains a version of some ultimate universal truth. There is nothing to base this claim on whatsoever. There are so many different religious systems, and every single one was obviously developed by human beings.
Do you honestly think it makes sense that Mormonism, Asatru (Norse religion), Scientology, Jainism, and Dudism, are all simply different versions of the same universal truth? Do you care to elaborate on what this truth could possibly be?
>>678266544
Yeah this meme pretty much exists because it allows multi-culti fags to ignore obvious religious differences and tensions
>>678249837
God didn't make religion, man did.
>>678264897
>>678266544
All this kind of shit is just from Americans trying to not feel like a retard for thinking Jesus is real and can walk on water and turn that same water into wine etc.
They believe in a first century yogi magic man from the middle-east.
bread goes in toast comes out. 1-0 Religion
>>678266544
fucking this
believing that all religions are true is even more retarded than believing that one religion is true
