How come you're not a vegam? Eating animals is mean.
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Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
How come you're not a vegam? Eating animals is mean.
>>677837034
>>677837034
Because animals are fucking delicious.
>>677837034
Tastes good.
Inb4 What about soy that tastes good.
No. No it does not
Animals are made for humans too eat.
>>677837034
I'm not a weak faggot
I am a vegan.
>>677837528
*faggot. You spelled that wrong
>>677837034
I don't know about Vegams, but I know vegitariums are usually pretty healthy
>>677837243
Animals only taste good seasoned with plants. There is fake soy meat that tastes good.
>>677837621
Wrong on two counts, well done.
>>677837528
What does that have to do with anything? Start your own thread, faggot.
>>677837034
because Bacon
Op is a faggot.
>>677837621
I like my burgers without seasoning. So no. 2 idc. 3 you can taste the difference
Because bait is for vegans
>>677837891
Yeah, but eat them without cooking and see how much you like.
When i see that bacon in the morning
Eating meat and animal cruelty are two very distinct things. Fuck off. I can oppose cruelty to animals and eat my fucking meat, so as long as that meat has been produced through non-cruel means. Laboratory meat is coming up in the next few years but I'll bet you're opposed to that too?
>>677838013
What point are you trying to make? I cook it so idk why you would bring up uncooked meat? Are you a retard?
>>677837617
>underrated post
>>677838013
Never had steak tartare? Fuck that's good.
>>677838189
somehow I feel like your comment needs a #blacklivesmatter
>>677838194
topkek
I cut myself on the edge of some people here.
Of course meat is tasty. Doesn't mean it's right slaughtering animals pointlessly. Over half of the meat is thrown away.
Also we are wasting resources on those animals. The amount of calories we pour into them is ridiculous considering how little we get out of one pig/cow/turkey.
Get educated.
We should eat all vegans. No more animal cruelty. No more fucking vegans. We still get meat. Win win win.
>>677838189
Sure, buddy. Enjoy your laboratory meat.
I used to work in a countryside farm. We raised and killed our animals.
Some as the chickens were so stupid they didn't deserve the food we gave to them, and every year quite died by their own due to fights or being stomped by their kind.
The goats were nice to people, but they were always climbing their shelter, getting out of the farm, and once they broke into the food storage and some died of eating too much.
Pigs and cows were the only ones without suicidal instincs, though they couldn't get food by their own, even though they mostly were free to move around. Well, pigs sometimes ate a chicken, but I can't blame them. Chickens are just dumbass.
Anyhow, humans are the only reason the "meat" animals exist. They would have extint if it weren't for farmers. I'm not ok with mass production factories and their methods, but we're animals, and we eat animals. And that's ok.
>>677838517
Meet
>>677838676
>>677837034
Because boo hoo, animals are still going to serve a purpose for another. Also, you have two options, OP.
>kill yourself
>stop posting threads like these
But I am vegan. Maybe i would would eat from another planet but I am a friend to all earthly creatures
>>677838839
I love these threads. So do you so who we bsing eh? Love hating on a vegan.
>>677838795
I said get educated, not continue to shitpost on /b/. Oh my god, what a fag.
>>677838676
Topest of keks. Underated lol
>>677838517
Americans are just squeamish about eating the best parts of the animals. The white ones at least... The black people got to enjoy ham hocks and other stuff in their soul food.
>>677837617
What is the drawing from I've seen it in a video
>>677839395
You get the cow, ill gang on the pig lol
>>677838517
>Also we are wasting resources on those animals.
You say that as if I care.
>>677839395
Posting edgy gifs won't make your point any less retarded.
>>677839536
I guess you're stupid then. kek
>>677837034
Give me those caged eggs. Not the un-caged ones... I want to taste the fear and suffering. And if chickens poop from the same place they pop out the eggs, so much the better.
>>677839613
>I guess you're stupid then.
No, just resigned to the fact that the world's fucked, so I may as well enjoy some lovely meat.
>>677839613
Nobody gives a fuck about you or what you say. You are currently on 4chan trying to argue reason and logic. So in conclution you are either a newfag or truly fucking retarded. No matter what though. Gtfo faggot
>>677837034
for the same reason animals eat animals
bc its natural
>>677839895
>newfag
Candyass, boxxy, cracky-chan, roodypoo ect. Suck my dick newfag lmao
I just find it funny to trigger edgy retards on 4chan.
>>677837034
Humans are omvivorous, as indicated by our teeth and physiology. There is no debate. Veganism is just another special snowflake disorder by which some losers believe they are morally superior by following a retarded doctrine. Futile as this attempt is, they continue to chase some semblence of significance... Poorly. Not to mention animals are fucking delicious. Anyone that would choose wheat grass over a t-bone suffers from a mental disorder.
This retarded earth gets worse by the minute. Why is everyone turning into PC faggots...
>>677837621
Then I guess salt is a plant, since that's the only shit I need on my steak.
>>677839895
Pwned a vegan. Not that big of an accomplishment dude. But yeah that guy is a retard if he actually thought he could change peoples minds. On 4chan of all places
>>677839955
>mass slaughter of animals is somehow natural
>so is throwing away the meat
Sure thing there anon. How many cocks do you suck a day?
>>677837034
Because it helps these animals to experience life, something they would be able to if we didn't eat them. If we could create perfect living conditions for these animals there would be morally nothing wrong with eating them. If we can achieve this then the vegans would be the morally suspect for denying life to animals that could have had a perfectly fine life. They would also animate other humans to potentially eat less nutritious food and take questionable food supplements to balance out their nutrition.
>>677837034
All the data you'll ever need to crush vegans, and support meat eating:
https://www.evernote.com/shard/s3/sh/2713f8d5-13e5-4104-9feb-46809e698aae/0e2560a0beb298f3f8a9a674e76fe792
Eat insects instead! We can get just as much protein from bugs and they wouldn't cost as much to produce or fuck up the planet.
>>677837034
Animals only purpose are to serve as resources, and as trial dummies for human products.
>>677840053
Oooh look i said roodypoo and boxxy im oldfag see. Wow you have just proven yourself as Supreme Shitlord Autistic Retard, Commander of the Nigger Faggot shitposter Battalion. Good job kid.
>>677840259
Eat some bugs then. Ill stick with my steak
>>677839613
You can tell this poster is a summer fag because he used kek right after a sentence where he tries to justify why your opinion differs from his.
Sage this shit stop letting these mongoloids threads plague /b/
>>677840086
So why don't you eat dogs and cats then? Blam!
>>677839772
Yeah boi
>>677840706
I salute you sir. Pointing out autists is a hard job, i certainly dont have the stomach for reading the shitposts. Youre doing the country a service lad.
>>677837034
>Vegam
>>677840569
Damn! The SSAR struck again. Kekd
>>677840898
Yea. You're right. Fuck me for wanting shitposts to be denormalized on /b/, huh?
>>677841148
I said that being serious faggot. Thank you and dont stop
>>677837034
Society really does need to move beyond animal (and plant) based nutrition.
We almost have the technology to do so now.
>>677841254
Do elaborate, anon.
>>677841254
I hate plaant cruelty! Why we dont just die n do the worldfavors herr derr heeeeeerrrrrrrrr (this is 50 years from now)
>>677841466
chemical compounds which contain basic nutrients
we could shape them into anything we wanted
and make them taste like anything
this tech can't be that far off
>>677840569
Newfag fuck off. Cancer is real, holy shit.
>>677840706
>waaah, waaaah, muh secret club!
>s-summerfag!
kek
Mad?
I know you are. But keep repyling. I fucking love triggering you autists.
>>677841470
I know it sounds dumb now, but give it another 10-15 years and there will be full-fledged plant/animal rights, with scientific evidence to back it up
All the vegan jumped ship. No fun anymore guys. Seya
>>677841738
Sad part is i believe you anon.
>>677841777
trips says stop eating animals
meat causes heart disease, cancer and other health problems
eating plants don't
>>677841925
the truth saddens you?
or do you think the science is going to be a lie and it'll be sjw bullshit?
>>677837034
Don't listen to this man, he works for the vegetable companies and is part of a worldwide conspiracy
Humans aren't meant to eat vegetables, you know that straight from birth. Have you ever seen a child want to that eat them? No, but the dangerous vegan conspiracy forces us to believe that meat is 'bad' for us...
There is recorded evidence dating back hundreds of years about this, but the media doesn't want you to know. You need to sped the word to everyone and kill all those who try and poison us with such things as 'vegans'.
>>677841654
You get off whacking that half inch dick to argueing with kids online. Wow you are a sad sorry little fuck. I just feel bad for pathetic pieces of shot like you. Really. Im sorry this is your life.
>>677842064
Sjws will rule this country. Open the borders and we will all be raped to death by muslims and mexicans. Vegtables will have more rights then the white man.
>>677842183
It's not my life, it's how I kill some time when I'm on the toilet or eating something. Beats watching TV.
I used to just post normally on /b/ until stormfags and cancer took it over, so now I'm just shitposting and triggering you guys. Way more fun. You have to agree.
>>677842489
Yeah i guess youre right. /b/ is done. But for people like you and me that cant let go. I might even be you in a few years. Oh god...
>>677842440
>implying the white man doesn't have all the rights now
>>677837034
because plants have rights too
>>677842807
Implying if the minorities get their way they wont turn the world into detroit.
I'm not sure... Did somebody call me?
>>677839380
Jerry jackson
>>677842807
Without the white man this world would look like fucking syria. Lol white people and asians keep the world running. Niggers contribute nothing
>>677842705
Meh, it's not too bad. Unless you take 4chan seriously. Which you should never. Especially /b/.
Toodles!
>>677839126
>black
>people
top kek
>>677842920
funny how Detroit was run by rich white people
>>677839380
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJMnmlPVkZ8&list=PLDFA381FF76F5894C
>>677843077
actually the white man, several of them, had a hand in turning Syria to shit
>>677843158
Till it got infested with niggers and they all bailed. Now with the nigorillas flooding the streets it looks like a fucking warzone.
>>677843262
Now millions of syrians will live in turkey. Where they will have a cbance at a good life. And wont join isis. Call that a win
>>677838013
Not into sashimi? Fucking delicious.
>>677843262
Syria was a shithole before america got their bub. Kekd hard
>>677843358
>Detroit
no faggot
rich white people got mad when they were told they had to pay their workers decent wages
so they packed up the jobs for Mexico
the white people dun goofed
>>677843543
Turkey is run by brown people though
you're getting mixed up
I thought only white people knew how to run countries
>>677843668
Actually it wasn't
the very white men whose lily white asses you kiss fucked it up through colonialism and Zionism
>>677843774
So the whites left? And without the whites the city turned into a cesspool? Thanks for proving his point faggot
>>677837034
I know this is bait but I never miss an opportunity to say that I AM VEGAN. hahah, 16 years.
Go vegan!
>>677843919
Turkey is as western a musllim brown nation can be. The syrians can have good lives and the white europeans dont have to see or smell the dirty syrian filth. Win win ;p
>>677844020
I actually handed anon his ass
and you too if you agree with him, thanks
>>677844275
yeah but you're contradicting yourself in a big way
and if you can't keep that shit straight you're probably wrong about everything else
>>677844307
To summarize. Whites left detroit. Niggers destroyed the remains.
Blames white people for leaving.
Not Niggers for destroying the city.
Logic
>>677844020
the whites didn't leave Detroit
they still run the place
face it you're a faggot
I'm trying to figure out how this thread went from vegan to nazi in less than 100 posts. There's a whole fucking containment board to circle-jerk about whites versus blacks. Let's get back to bashing vegans ffs.
>inb4: the same old arguments and b8 used in every other nazi thread
>>677844763
>vegan to nazi
Microsoft Tay?
>>677837435
No, they aren't. Muh bible. Religious dipshit.
>>677837203
Big deal. I sacrifice my most basic of desires to save the lives of animals, it's worth it!
>>677837491
Vegans are not weak faggots.
>>677837617
I was not healthy when I was still eating cheese. I lost 45 lbs when I switched to veganism from vegetarianism 15 years ago.
>>677837621
Exactly!
>>677837767
Literally 15 years old
>>677837891
Good, go die of heart attack fatass
>>677838189
You absolutely, positively can NOT be against animal cruelty and still eat meat. It is out of the question, and you are lying to yourself. There is no such thing as humane meat. Ever. ALL MEAT is murder. ALL meat is cruel.
>>677838376
Disgusting.
>>677838517
Much love brother.
>>677844233
Carb the fuck up!
>>677844233
Rock on my nigga
>>677844853
serious question anon, how do you get vitamin b12 and other things you have to get from meat?
>>677844897
You know this mane
>>677844741
Whites fled in droves.
"No no one old white man still lives on 34th street!"
Oh you got me. Dumbass. 90% black is still a black city
>>677837034
Eating the limbs of plants is psychotic.
>>677837034
>>677838194
[Kek of gigantic proportionS]
[KS]
>>677845033
Actually no, whites still control all of the major industries in Detroit
shitty example anon
and you had your butt scraped
>>677844985
I take liquid sublingual b12 every day
The rest can all be obtained easily from stuff like flax seed and Chia seeds and stuff. I eat a LOT of food. Like 4 big meals a day. I had my blood checked extensively after being vegan 15 years and EVERYTHING looked great. My proteinwas higher than average. Vegan food isn't like it was in the 80s. The options for high omega 3 and high protein content and vitamin d fortified soy milk or almond milk or cashew milk etc are vast now.
>>677840193
"What are the health benefits of eating meat? I don't want any
information about why being vegetarian is better for you- only
information that promotes all types of meat as part of a healthy diet."
Nah it's not like you'll find biased one sided data on that link is it?
>>677845354
good job anon
>>677844853
If I can manufacture meat in a laboratory, which is a technology currently in development, then there is no cruelty involved. Fuck your dogma.
Furthermore, even without that technology: scavenging is a humane source of meat. Letting an animal live out it's life to it's best extent, have it die from whatever natural causes and then eating it does no harm to any animals.
I love animals, I hate and oppose animal cruelty and I fucking love meat. Deal with it.
If science created artificial meat with better nutritional properties, and also tasted better, people would still eat animals because it's been that embedded into their brain.
>>677837034
because they would eat me if I weren't smarter than them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkQ7o-gWWng
>>677845381
Yeah everyone knows meat has protein and connective tissue has vitamins and minerals.. but the fact of the matter is we have advanced as a race scientifically to the point that it is literally unnecessary to consume any animal products. That's just a fact. MUH Ancestors...yeah,they weren't on tablets and laptops either, but I'm not gonna throw mine away. ..
Anyway, meat is just cancer and antibiotics and heart disease waiting to happen. It isn't even that good, besides the fact that it is cruel and unnecessary. I never miss meat or dairy. Fuck that shit. Everyone I know in my personal life is slowly cutting back on how much meat they eat these days and trying to get on my level. But they have low willpower.
>>677845782
There would be litterally no point in eating meat. But since that isnt true people will not change
>>677840825
Dogs have evolved alongside us to be our best buddies that hunted with us and protected us, cattle evolved to be just that, cattle, our lunch meat. Cats are stringy so we dont eat them.
>>677845513
Hahaha, are you an actual shill for the USA or just a stupid omnivore idiot with deep guilt?
Dude. Once again; NO SUCH THING AS HUMANE MEAT. NO SUCH THING AS A GOOD LIFE IF YOU ARE SLAUGHTERED FOR FOOD UNNECESSARILY. This isn't a survival situation. I would eat meat if I had to survive. You can go to a store, it isn't the 1700s. You don't need to hunt.
You do not love animals.
You do NOT OPPOSE animal cruelty.
It's not up for debate. You are lying to yourself, and you are in denial.
>>677844853
Your definition of cruel is way off.
"wilfully causing pain or suffering to others, or feeling no concern about it."
Under this definition I could eat human meat and it would not be cruel, provided I had waited for the human to die first.
![371258641_144ec323cc[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JvvikgC.jpg "371258641_144ec323cc[1].jpg")
>>677846264
>cats are stringy so we dont eat them.
>>677845879
I wasn't arguing against your point.
I was just pointing out how bias the article is.
>>677845782
I used to buy tofu chicken breasts because I really didn't want to handle dead flesh anymore. They were fucking amazing. I would still buy them, if I could find them. (You'll say this is anecdotal but your premise is supposition so it evens out.)
>>677846322
You might live the best life in the world and then get killed by some nutjob. The fact that you got killed by the nutjob does not then negate the quality of your life up to that point.
Anyway I'm out good talking to yall, go vegan if you really love animals .. veganism isn't about having a chip on your shoulders or being better than others. It's about living a good life, not being a fatass, and saving the fucking world from SKYROCKETING to extinction from ecological disasters...above all else, it's about NOT APPROVING OF THE MURDER OF INNOCENT ANIMALS. It isn't worth it guys, go vegan!
Boycott the circus. Don't wear leather. Try to buy cruelty free products. Stop eating meat. Stop eating dairy. Encourage others to join you.
THIS Is THE time.
>>677846474
Let me correct myself
>cats are stringy so human beings dont eat them, only subhuman chinks do
>>677846461
If I murder your mother quickly and painlessly are you cool with that, stupid?
Dude accept it, you don't care about animals. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
>>677846729
Yeah you MIGHT
On a farm you DEFINITELY ARE KILLED and sold as a commodity.
Stupid analogy from a stupid omnivore slob
>>677847012
I don't think my analogy is as stupid as you're blunt refusal to accept other people's views
>>677846731
gtfo queer boy
>>677846322
You people need to let go of the world cruelty. I finally persuaded my retarded insane vegan parents to stop using the word "torture," and my next goal is to get them to stop using cruelty.
I am ok with inhumane when it is used to describe factory farming, please stick to that.
I also disagree with you about this idea that there is no such thing as humane meat. CAK slaughtered or CAK stunned chicken seems plenty humane to me. I watched a video once of a farmer taking a pig for a walk and suddenly shooting the pig in the head with slug from a shotty while the pig was happily running along. It was sad in a way, but I will never agree that such a death is inhumane. I hope to die by massive GSW to the head myself so... it would be impossible to persuade me that it is a bad death.
>>677847185
Your "views" harm others.
Mine do not.
>>677847232
Tldr go vegan or shut the fuck up
Your opinion is less than worthless, how can your parents have raised such an idiot
>>677847232
>Inhumane
You mean..we treat non-humans in a non-human fashion?! How savage.
>>677847274
Welcome to 4chan faggot in which we hate ant-free speech specters like you faggot.
>>677846322
And you're a dogmatic cunt.
You're not even arguing at this point, you're just yelling shit that's completely missing the point. You're no different from a fucking flat earther young earth creationist.
Tell me where in my point there was cruelty or shut your whore hole.
1) scavenging fresh corpses
2) laboratory meat
3) fuck your dogma
>>677847405
Not only am I not going to go vegan, but I didn't react emotionally to your attempt at written aggression. Please try harder next time, you get a big 0/10
>>677847232
It's not that the death can't be painless. It's that vegans do not agree with forcefully breeding animals to be sold and killed as if they are property. It's called an ethical position. I do what I can to avoid buying products tested on animals and so on. It's not always possible or easy, but it's not about being perfect, it's about doing the best you can.
>>677837621
>There is fake soy meat that tastes good.
you are not wrong, meat tastes good.
>>677837034
>>677844853
Id rather die 10 years sooner because I ate good food then live a miserable life eating shit.
>>677847484
I meant animals dipshit.fuck 4chan.
This dump isn't even edgy anymore, it's a shithole
>>677847210
He actually swayed me with his well-reasoned position and I was thinking that veganism might just be the answer... Now that I see your response, though, I'm going to stick with eating meat. Keep up the good work, anon.
>>677837034
animals live because we want them to live
if we didn't breed them them to eat them there wouldn't be any cows or chicken
one of the things that makes the human race what it is is agriculture
vegans want to destroy the basis of all human civilizations
fuck you all
>>677847526
Eat all the roadkill you want. I agree, it isn't cruel. It's probably also disgusting. Help yourself.
Meat made in a lab requires cells from animals to begin with, which I am ethically against.
>>677847874
KK no need to be so salty heck I'm an omnivore but hell you don't care about what i say.
I can't eat my food's food or I would be basicly killing animals
>>677847630
I am not only talking about the death. I would argue with complete conviction that a grass-fed free range cow or chicken that is slaughtered without fear or pain represents "humane" meat.
Yes, I understand that "humane" meat (by my definition) is vanishingly rare compared to factory farmed and inelegantly slaughtered meat. All I am saying is I object to the notion that all raising and slaughtering of animals is ethically problematic... because it isn't ALL of it, only most of it.
>>677847756
And I would rather you die 10 years sooner if you eat it, so it all works out!
>eating shit
>fruits and vegetables
kek.....sip another dew and eat another hot pocket fag
i wished 4chan would check cache/cookies after tumblr logins and instaban these people.
so fucking tired of femanazis vegans spreading their legs and releasing their vile cheese mucus over us.
>>677848328
>raped
>used
>killed "painlessly"
>HUMANE
>>677847468
Watch some footage of cows and pigs living in factory farming conditions (not chickens, it is harder to empathize with retarded dinosaurs than it is to empathize with mammals) and see how you feel. I eat meat, and am disturbed by such footage.
>>677848078
We can scavenge the cells. Every large multicellular organism sheds cells on a daily basis.
You're also not doing a cost-benefit analysis on that suffering. Would you mind taking a few cells to save literal billions of lives that are nothing but suffering? This is exactly the retarded bs I expect from vegans these days. The lack of meat makes their brain rot.
>>677848736
You greentexted the words rape and used as if I used them? How confusing.
>>677848699
I've been vegan half my life and I've been here since 2006. I don't normally go into these threads, but I was in a good mood today so I thought I'd bite. Vegans don't look like you think they do. You've met MANY and had no idea. Don't expect a bunch of pale scrawny weakling who look all sick to be the only vegans. We aren't SJWs. We are just against animal cruelty snd so we sacrifice a bit of ourselves for the cause. Simple as that. Have you ever been passionate about anything?
>meat and cheese
>healthy
>>677848901
Generally speaking, whenever a comment makes you feel the need to use words like "multicellular," you are probably being trolled. No one is insane enough to believe that animal cells should not be used for anything... he done got you.
>>677848816
what about the traces of feces and delicious toxic pesticides found in pretty much all veggies and which has shown to cause cancer and autism ?
NICE.
>>677849096
Well then you could have *couch* got us to raid.
>>677849105
"Bacon is good"
>>677837034
Is this girl blind? why does she have that stick?
>>677849096
In Los Angeles, they do all in fact look like pale, scrawny tatted up SJWs. Just Sayyin like Vegeta.
>>677849295
What about feces in 100% of meat!
T O P K E K
O
P
K
E
K
A vegans chance of getting cancer is CONSIDERABLY lower than an omni
>>677849096
difference is that i dont force my idea over others and call them out for stupid shit like believing in invisible gods.
>>677849435
I don't really care. There's more to this country than "LA". Making snap judgements is not an attractive quality, grow the fuck up.
>>677849295
Your comment is difficult to understand, and my performance on reading comp type tests is downright fucking stellar.
Also, I eat meat so... yeah really just not understanding what you are writing. If you are a native English speaker and have a digital thermo in your house, check for fever.
>>677849425
KEK, it's a cattle prod for shocking beasts that get uppity. Crocodile tears...
>>677849651
I recommend, I suggest. I do not "force"anyone to do a goddamn thing.. however, on the other hand, by eating meat, you FORCE the hand that murders animals because you fund the cruelty.
Which one is the oppressor?
>>677849238
I don't think so unfortunately. Really, I'd much rather he'd "done got me". I've met some radical vegans. As dumb as they are dogmatic and authoritarian. This guy isn't the worst by a looooong looooong stretch.
I am vegan because I'm not a resource wasting retard who ruins his own health because "duuuuwr, bacon's tasty"
>>677849701
I didn't make a snap judgment, and am plenty grown. I merely pointed out that in Los Angeles the stereotype fits the vegan population rather well. If that makes you mad, might I suggest you go fuck yourself (literally, I think you might need a good masturbatory session to restore your balance).
>>677837034
Ok vegans won so I'm bouncing. Hahaha. Go vegan hoes.
>>677850079
I jack off 3x daily and still fuck my wife and fire huge tasty loads cuz I eat tons of fruit. :D
>>677837034
>>677849879
so plants arent living, plants cannot feel, plants are ok to kill because to you they do not live up to the standard of being something to respect or to treat as a living beeing.
i hope you get reborn as a melon.
>>677850379
Plants have no central nervous system, but I do respect nature.
Not her quote, but still relevant.
>>677837034
TRUTH
>>677849525
I do not agree that the risk of developing cancer is CONSIDERABLY lower. Yes, I have read the China Study so please don't even fucking start down that road. I am willing to believe that vegans have diminished risk, but not all-caps considerably. Genetics, luck, etc. are much more important. I am sure we will know enough in 15 years or so to definitively figure out which one of us is right, but don't be surprised when it is me.
>eating animals is wrong because they can feel pain
>eating plants is OK even though it has been scientifically proven that plants can feel pain
>sweatingoverpressingoneoftwomutuallyexclusivebuttons.jpg
>>677850538
Well that settles it, if one old hag is vegan forget the whole thing! Thanks anon! Glad you had that image saved!
>Complains about humans eating meat
>About half the animals in the world eat meat
>Says nothing about that
And just so you know, some animals even eat their prey while still alive
>>677837034
Because animals taste good.
If eating humans was legal I'd do it too.
>>677850538
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>>677850666
I've done it 15 years already, satan. I could kink you to studies that show the diminished heart disease, high blood pressure, cancer, etc risks, but on an anonymous board who knows if you're even serious about the subject and not trolling so I'm not gonna waste my time, but Google it. Considerably fuckin lower.
>>677850759
From what I've heard, humans don't taste that great. In particular not those people who have horrible fucking diets (ice cream or butter flowing through their veins).
Besides you can also get Prion Disease or something from eating human meat. Not sure if that's the case with cooked meat.
You can always try and live with some south american tribes that still practice cannibalism. Gotta find em first tho. Either that or find some Germans.
>>677850673
Plants can't feel pain you retard, they don't have a nervous system. It has not been proven in the slightest. Also it takes more plants to raise livestock than it does to feed humans.
>>677850704
Humans are not carnivores. We are omnivores who can choose to be herbivores. We are very smart and technologically advanced. We aren't jungle creatures. We can make moral judgement calls
>>677849425
cattle prod
apparently vegans wont eat meat but they will torment the animals anyway
>>677851145
Right. They repond to being damaged. They are alive. They do not feel pain.
>>677851352
Yeah she's probably not a vegan but has a heart and knows that she should be. Like most people I meet who could "never quit eating cheese"
>>677850975
Not trolling, and heart disease / high BP are not the same thing as cancer. I objected to the cancer bit, not anything about CVD. Since you moved us into a scientific realm, you are obligated to treat my wording precisely... you can't strawman me as if I said veganity conferred no CVD benefit.
>>677848736
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>>677845479
Good job same fag, the timing is there too, seriously, 1 minute gap? Get good dickhead
>>677851435
Yes. I'm sure >>677851435
they have some sensory perception, but not pain. What evolutionary advantage would feeling pain provide for a plant?
>>677851630
Ok so we are arguing as to whether or not vegans have just a somewhat lower or significantly lower risk of cancer?
I think you already know what the obvious choice should be, bud.
>>677851750
No one believes plants feel pain, stop being so easily trolled.
>>677840825
Cows and pigs taste better, they were bred that way.
>>677851703
Link both posts and I'll screenshot it. It wasn't me.
There's more of us than you think, bb
>>677851312
Exactly, omnivores, because of that i fucking choose to eat meat, got a problem?
Also, moral judgement is something we made, and only we use, do you see any animal out there doing that?
>>677841981
Kys
>>677846322
who cares. animals taste good. end of discussion.
>>677852000
Yeah. I have a problem with your "choice" when your "choice" is to "choose" to take the life of an animal who didn't deserve it. Your "choice" is intrusive and destructive and unnecessarily cruel.
And no. No other animals have morals or values, is that really your argument for eating meat? You're a wanna be edgy douche. Fite me irl
>>677851821
Yes, that is what I am arguing with you about. And when it comes to cancer (AGAIN, not CVD) I would say vegans are probably at a very slight advantage... so slight as to be essentially negligible. I cannot prove that yet, but I expect it to be proven soon.
CVD is a totally different issue, and I imagine that the benefits of veganity in that domain are much more worthy of the caps lock treatment.
>>677852257
That's about the extent of the logic for a selfish omnivore, and I'm used to that answer. Have a good one.
>>677846731
too bad you cant be a vegan without taking vitamins because your shitty diet cant sustain you.
>>677837435
That picture makes me feel aggressive. I feel like I have to go kill a wild robot bear and tear it's fucking heart out. Then I have to use the heart to beat Chuck Norris to death with. And when I'm done, I'm gonna have to scream "Nigger!" in Africa while bent over... Just to have a hot dog.
>>677850216
>on /b/
>has a wife
Yeah OK
>>677852294
I don't care, none of us care. The fact that billions of humans continue to eat meat around the world since the beginning of human history is proof enough that most humans generally enjoy eating meat more than they care about animals.
>>677852294
Does that mean plants deserve that shit then?
>YOU KILL ANIMALS TO EAT THEM
yeah
so does literally every other animal that is at the top of their food chain
we're at the top of the global food chain
meat is naturaly what we eat
>>677852320
Cool, I'll take the less chance of cancer, the extremely low risk of cvd. At the end of the day, I'd make a lateral move to save animals even if it wasn't healthier. It's called doing what's right, having a conscience, and being a good person. You seem pretty intelligent and I can't help but think you've considered becoming a vegetarian. You can make a difference even if you don't. Try meatless Mondays or something. Anything is better than nothing,
Nice talkin to ya bro.
>>677851969
The problem is you think I care enough to look at screenshots, it's already a Longshot I'm filling out the dumbass capchas
>>677852619
You forgot to mention that some farms now the days give there animals love and care before they kill them. So "cruelty"?
Avalon if you're in here I hate you.
>>677852393
I take vitamin b12. I wish I didn't have to because it's costly. But it tastes like strawberries and it's a small price to pay to be able to do what's right. Cheers faggot.
>>677852495
Haha I'm married since 1998
>>677849879
>murder
Typical vegan assault on the integrity of the language. In the King's Fucking English, words have meaning. Definitions of words aren't fucking suggestions, they are instructions. You don't get to cast them aside when you happen to get all antsy in your pantsy.
>>677837034
>people on /b/
>mean
Now I've fucking heard everything! What next? If you fucking tell me that Christianity doesn't exist I swear to god...I'm gonna persuasively argue the opposite. Maybe. If I feel like it. I probably won't, but I'll be thinking it anyway.
>>677852521
Ok spidey you can have it! Peace!
>>677837034
>Implying i give a shit about animals.
>>677852380
fuck yeah im selfish. Im only going to be around for ~80 years. Not gonna waste all that time eating nasty shit when theres plenty of beef and chicken to go around.
>>677837034
Because veganism is genocide
>inb4 what
>>677852756
Nice talking to you too. Thanks for being a vegan, I appreciate the assist with the environment.
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>>677840133
I sincerely hope you don't salt it until you're ready to eat it, otherwise you'd be doing it way wrong.
>>677853131
Fucking this.
>>677852822
Funniest post in the thread
>>677837034
Is funny, vegans are so mad about end the life of a animal, but not about the life of a plant? they are living things too and have feelings... fking hippies with their double standard
>>677853142
You could say that one of the best evolutionary traits when it comes to prolonged proliferation is being useful to humans.
>>677853181
Asians are barely human, though.
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>>677853381
A plant can't look at them like it's sad, so it's all good to consume for it's energy.
>>677853385
Sounds about right
Useful or GTFO
>>677853381
This is the kind of shit people say to justify their cruel actions. We both know it isn't the same, and it's ok to feel shameful and guilty about the horrible choices you make. There's still time to go vegan.
>>677853460
And yet they still eat meat like billions of other animals regardless of "choice".
obligatory
>>677853598
>eating something alive isn't the same as eating something alive
Gr8 b8 m8
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>>677853666
Thank you devil
>>677853789
Central
Nervous
System
Brian
Brian stem
Spinal cord
Emotions
That is the difference
>>677853385
Yes being factory farmed by humans is probably the most elegant survival strategy you could come up with (on a planet that was being consumed by humans). I would personally rather my line ended than continue in such a fashion.
If on the other hand you were going to let me live in some sort of library/fuckhouse for 20 years and then suddenly blow my head off one day... yeah I would take that over extinction.
>>677837034
Because I don't feel like having to announce every 30 seconds that I'm vegan.
>>677840133
This is true.
Salting meat before cooking will deteriorate the tissues.
Salting meat after cooking will make the meat salty.
>>677853921
>animals have emotions
You literally have absolutely zero proof of this.
While I love animals and oppose cruelty, I console myself in that the animals that die for meat production were not destined/made to live in the first place.
That said, shit like Foie Gras makes me fucking sick and it should be made illegal. It's a luxury food made through inhumane means. It's made strictly as a fancy choice at the expense of something like 2-3 months of constant forcefeeding.
>>677853943
Suit yourself.
>>677853921
>emotions
kek
Also,
>moving goalposts
kekkerony
>>677852990
I really hate to disagree with you here, because I support putting snooty vegans in their place. However the dictionary definition of murder doesn't mean shit. The legal definition established through criminal code does. A dictionary will give you a rough idea about common usage of the word, but it does not even begin to cover the complexities of any given nation's criminal law.
However, in common usage, murder does not mean eating meat unless it's human meat, so take that vegan faggots!
>>677853598
This is the kind of shit people say to justify that they still are reaping other lives to survive
No, i don't feel shame about my choice of enjoying the juicy flavor of meat, and i don't need to go vegan to eat vegetables either, so no thanks
Veganism is petit-bourgeois moralism and will never get rid of the meat industry
>>677854166
Thank you Satan Dubs Jr. literally.
>>677854123
Dunno if you noticed, but we aren't in court or debating matters of law... hence the lack of robes, cops, a physical location, any mention of laws, etc.
We are, however, exchanging words... so yeah I am pretty fucking sure it is the dictionary that should be used here, and not Minnesota's definition of murder with intent or w/e criminal code you were thinking of.
Also, I don't really want to put vegans in their place so much as I want them to stop taking their ideological sledgehammers to my much beloved Engarish.
>>677854036
Yes, there is proof of this. Google is your friend.
>>677854057
You're on the right track. Wouldn't be surprised to run into you at a vegan restaurant some day.
>>677837034
Honest question, say we all went vegan, what happens to all those animals we no longer need?
Cows - Can't drink milk, can't eat meat, are we able to use their leather?
Chickens - Can't eat eggs, can't eat meat, can we use their feathers?
Pigs - Can't eat meat, pig ears for the dogs and skin useable?
Horses - Guess we could keep them for riding
Sheep - Can't eat the meat, we allowed to use their wool?
Goats - Can't drink their milk or eat them
Seriously millions and millions (probably trillions) of animals would need to die because we wouldn't need them anymore.
>"I'm a vegan b/c I care about animals more than i care about the Mexicans who pick my vegetables."
>>677854599
Again have you heard of farms that give there animals love and care then after a while kills them. "Cruelty?"
>U gonna ignore this aren't you
>Gonna prove your enforcing your views on us if you do ignore
>>677854166
You don't need it to survive. You're a selfish asshole. I'd cave your face in any day of the week with my limp vegan wrists
>>677854111
Implying you wouldn't?
>>677845513
Lab meat will have the same problem as real meat. Its components and properties are still the same. You will still have heme iron on it, cholesterol, methionine and once u cook it pahs and nitrosamines will form. Yoy dont get those from eating plants.
>>677854760
It wouldn't happen overnight because so many hard headed selfish losers in the word. I'm sure you lards would eat all that was left first.
>>677854757
No no no no.
The burden of proof is on you.
If I Google "do animals have feelings" I'm going to find a bunch of links to imright.com that spew rhetoric that even tumblr would hesitate to associate itself with.
>>677854760
They'd either go extinct immediately, or dwindle away into nothing as they're picked off by wild animals.
>>677854945
You fight with your wrists? What Chinese mountain range is your temple in?
>>677854057
lol you're a faggot. foie gras is fucking delicious. aint no skin off my dick if they're bleating in pain. oh wait. they don't. they practically beg for more at every feeding. i couldn't give a shit how they feel or try to equate my life with theirs. they have feelings? boo fucking hoo. i'm not going to feel better eating some tofu. i'll enjoy the fuck out of a steak though.
>>677854793
I can't help who picks my vegetables.
I can help what I eat
>>677855025
I have retenal cancer now thanks for that
>>677837034
Because nobody gives a shit if its mean or not. And it tastes good. And even if i were disgusted by something as natural as killing animals for food I would still have to have my brain lobotomized to jump from Vegetarian to Vegan.
>>677855104
Lol at this burden of proof bullshit. you made the claim that there is zero evidence that animals have feelings. You are wrong. Gtfo with your nonsense.
>>677855098
No no, let's say it did happen, what would happen then? I mean it's the end goal vegans all want, what happens to all those useless animals?
>>677855141
I think we'd keep some in zoos or some on farms as pets but I don't think most people actually think of the end results of: we use them for the flesh, wool or feathers.
>>677855025
I also don't get the taste and texture from plants. Take the bad with the good. Just because I'll see some gruesome shit in life doesn't mean I'll gauge out my eyes.
I was also making a moral argument, not a nutritional one, so, missing the point there bud.
Lastly lab meat is not the same. Though it is the same end material (perhaps even better) it's been made without cruelty to animals.
>>677837034
>vegam
>>677855224
No, you can't x2
>>677855224
>Implying you could't help other humans at the cost of rising vegetable prices .
How come vegans never care about the horrible shit done by the companies that they buy their ~oh so morally pure~ food comes from? Why does mistreatment of animals matter, but not mistreatment of third world farmers? Why does animal testing matter, but not the fact that your corporation never gives farmers enough money for proper protection for their farmers when they are forced by competition to use pesticides? Why does killing other creatures for food matter (when lots of people rely on that food, and when some can't even not rely on it because veganism is impossible for them due to allergies and what not), but not the fact that your Coca Cola bottle is as cheap as it is because that corporation murders union workers?
OH WAIT, I forgot that all you fuckers care about is being self-righteous, pretentious, self-fellating dickheads!
>>677855104
No no no no,
I don't have to prove shit mother fucker, you're going to stuff your face with meat regardless. I won't be reverse trolled into wasting my time digging for citations, how about you suck my dick instead
