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Is this a good game?
>>677604017
nope
Does spider have puss puss?
>>677604017
Yes. Objectively the best fallout to date too. The story is not very well done tho
>>677604017
The worst of the series
>>677604220
But not bad per se
>>677604017
>>677604017
Fun game, bad Fallout game. Buy it though, it's really entertaining and there are some really great moments.
>>677604017
Are there settlements that need taking care of?
Great game. Everyone hates it tho because it wasnt amazing
>>677604017
Yeah it's good, bout 11/12 days game time atm. (A lot for me, don't play games anymore)
Anyone who says otherwise is just being a whiny bitch or just doesn't know shit.
![fallout-new-vegas-20100428001129686[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AsV6KGI.jpg "fallout-new-vegas-20100428001129686[1].jpg")
how is the new dlc? is geck out yet?
>>677604120
>best fallout fps yet
ftfy
>>677604017
great game, bad fallout
>>677604017
decent game, shit Fallout game. Bethesda keeps getting rid of more and more RPG elements and in this installment they really fine tuned a lot of the FPS mechanics.
It's very little more an RPG at this point than Wolfenstein, so if that's what you're looking for go for it.
That said, still looks ok, decent map size (smaller than Witcher or GTA, probably about the size of Skyrim), story is... ok.
But boring
Bad points - faction choices and settlement building. Also resource farming is annoying
>>677604120
>best fallout to date
>story is not very well done
you you even fallout bro?
>>677604679
Nail on the head. Additionally, I found that there was little to no incentive to explore, as easter eggs and attention to detail was lacking.
Seemed like everything that makes a fallout game wasn't present.
>>677604017
It had the potential to be the best fallout to date but they ruined the dialog system by ripping off Mass Effect.
Also If you quicksave and try out all the choices you'll quickly realize that none of the choices you make do anything different.
That trend continues till you beat the end and get another rip off from Mass Effect: The ending.
You basically kill two factions and leave the other one. Then your guy says the same thing for each ending, Except one gets an extra 6 word sentence.
I scored the game for 40 bucks and put 143 hours into it and It was fun, but It was a huge step backwards for the series as a whole.
7/10 beware the fanboys
>>677604017
Underrated. It was very hyped up and then it came out and some people didn't like it. They then said "Oh this is shit" in reality its a fun game that you can get a lot of hours into it.
I feel like Far Harbour will address the major issues.
Hoping TESVI will be as good as III, IV, and V.
Some decent reviews for a change. Automatron is out & it's pretty good but really short story-wise. The robots are kinda cool there's tons. It won't be until May when Far Harbor comes out tho when we see how the 'real' dlc will be.
>>677605110
>Far Harbour will address the major issues.
Obsidian will address the major issues, friend.
>>677604017
it's fucking shit bro, huge waste of money
>>677605142
Automatron hinted at a great theme of heroism but then just said "fuck it".
Having the Mechanist think you are the villain for how shitty the Commonwealth has become since you came is a good perspective on the RPG genre as a whole.
The reveal for Mechanist was also really good.
8/10 micro-DLC.
>>677605168
I want Bethesda's world building with Obsidian writing. TES is what Bethesda is best at.
>>677604017
I have a theory about Fallout 4.
While >>677604679 is correct about it being quite low on story and RP elements, I do believe that Bethesda have kind've done this intentionally.
They are creating a Game Engine. There will be a few DLCs that will be nothing more than equipment and crafting mods, maybe a few behavior addons like companions and settlers.
Players will complain over the lack of gameplay, but what we'll see is, in a few months, when they release the GECK, we'll have almost everything we need to make our own full-conversion RP games.
Because the way feral ghouls work now, if they released the GECK today, within the week there would be a kick-ass zombie game out there. Now imagine that with better companions, settlers and building.
Bethesda haven't concentrated on story because they're creating game mechanics, piece by piece. But they could never admit that to us, or we wouldn't buy it.
Or maybe I'm putting too much faith in Bethesda .
>>677605399
1000% chance to hit the nail on the head with that post.
Took away my breath while seeing a ruined Boston, Automtron was even better
Too hard. It's even nore frustrating than the souls series.
>>677605430
i'n happy the community is getting tools to make a good game. i wish bethesda had made a good game to begin with though.
>we can make a shitty game and rely on our players to fix it
O brave new world, That has such people in't!
>>677605915
When you compare it to the depth and options in Skyrim, you realize just how lazy all of the postgame/dlc was. There's always something else to be doing, bored with Quests? Craft, or Daedric weapons, or shout hunting, fighting dragons>those puss f4 deathclaws.
Overall it's not even a comparison, I don't understand why they'd shoot themselves in the foot.
The building is shit too. Feasible, I'd take the time to put something together that didn't look like shit.
itt: skyrim kiddies :/
>>677604220
Definitely
>>677606495
>itt: skyrim kiddies
>uses :/
Anon really?
>>677604017
No, it's shit. Copy paste from other Bethesda games. The story is shit, the endings consist of what factions you join or kill an has no impact on the world at all. The dialogue is yes, no, or sarcastic. Half the time saying no doesn't mean anything, forcing you into quests you don't wanna do. Speaking of quests their aren't any, I felt like I've done all the interesting original side quests after playing through the game twice since the world is incredibly small.
>>677606618
>Be 28
>See this
Doesn't stop my point tho
Is the anti materiel rifle still in this? I want to one shot everything
They turned it into skyrim with guns. I could barely get two play thrus out of it.
I hope you don't mind if we don't add dick to the water, it sure would be a shame if we let all that development space be filled with adventure AND water.
>>677606710
face with timestamp, now
![1395448027313[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rmsFUjO.jpg "1395448027313[1].jpg")
>>677606618
i've been away from /b/ for a very long time and it's hard to get back into things, okay? ya'll require some artisinal type bait and shit.
>>677606710
are you pretending to be me?
>>677605430
>making an engine
They used the same fucking engine from skyrim. If Bethesda wanted a game for players to make the geck would be out at launch
Dunno, can't afford a video card powerful enough to run it.
![gp4gesz[2].png](https://i.imgur.com/orTGxBC.jpg "gp4gesz[2].png")
>>677607263
>>677607263
runs fine on intergrated gpu for me
>>677607050
nigga what frames are those? they look pretty cool.
>>677607263
660 used is like £65-80 come on man that can run Witcher 3 too
>>677604017
If you play it, find an alternate start mod so you can try to ignore the stupid main story.
You just can't make the game try to do so much without watering down everything else.
I think it would be better if they made a system more like metal gear
A Fallout game on the Fox engine would make my weeb pussy quake.
>>677607447
I got them at Vision 4 Less, because shit is like 40 bucks w/o insurance.
>>677607263
I can run this shit on an 840m what the fuck are you on about?
>>677607050
Well played
>>677607691
aight ty bro, they look sweet for $40.
>>677604017
Great game, but a shitty Fallout.
>>677608045
I got another paid for free too.
>>677608097
holy shit that looks delicious
shameless unrelated self plug to probable target audience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftO8cjMhmNk
While we're on the subject, how bigs the map?
>>677604017
I recommend it, however only if you play on survival difficulty
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>>677608360
>survival difficulty
is that from the new dlc?
>>677607050
>mfw I almost fucked up and got the mail on the fridge in the shot. Thank god we don't have magic csi picture sharpening.
![2m4d7qq[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ajbWZf7.jpg "2m4d7qq[1].jpg")
>>677607050
what a qt
fukken saved
>>677608486
it's okay somebody will recognize you eventually
>>677604017
No.
/thread
Find Swan's Pond early in the game.
You can find an Instigating Gauss Rifle in a boat on the Pond.
RIP Fallout.
>>677604017
Pretty shit really, I stopped playing when I realised the choices don't matter.
3 and New Vegas were better.
>>677604494
No, except for some tutorial quests, just ignore them
>>677608705
you build a convincing argument
>>677608817
but vegas was complete shit
>>677604317
why the fuck would you need 16000 energy... dude at a full built vault 6000 is more than enough.
>>677608906
Fuck off Tod, NV was the best out of modern Fallout by far.
>mfw casuals can't appreciate a real RPG
>>677608906
You're complete shit, kill yourself
>>677604017
Play new vegas
Anyone know when Skyrim 2 will be announced/released?
>>677604017
Ehh... long story short, no it's not a good game. Arguably had the most potential, but they completely fucked it up. Story is lackluster and highly convoluted (think Fallout Tactics), environment quickly gets boring, mechanics (totally ripped off from other games) are rock stupid, also bugs bugs bugs and bugs. Settlement building is just a huge pain in the ass, with little to no reward.
I'll never understand how Bethesda managed to make a game that is basically Fallout + Terminator + Blade Runner + The Patriot = Yet somehow, BORING AS FUCK.
Automatron DLC was decent though.
I could go into great length on why this game is such a disappointment, but I'd rather keep butthurt at a minimum.
>Making the game more of a first person shooter than RPG
Why Todd... Why???
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>>677609336
>Skyrim 2
>>677609486
Only Obsidian can save us now.
>>677609593
>Only Obsidian can save us now.
They're too busy working on PoE2 and co-developed Baldurs Gate: Siege of dragonspear.
Bethesda would force them to develop a massive, expansive world with intricate and complex inter-arcing missions with no less than 6 distinct outcomes on a shitty game engine and give them 1/3 the time they promised Obsidian to bug test it.
>still the best fallout since 2
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>>677609807
>>677604634
>>677608817
>>677609063
>>677609162
>Implying that New Vegas is the best Fallout
It's obviously Fallout 2, morons.
>>677609593
That guy is a faggot but I liked the ability to walk away from conversations so I could return later.
>>677610031
>Implying it's an implication even if its directly stated.
Lrn2grmr
>>677610225
>Lrn2grmr
L2Grammer*
>>677610031
Agreed
>>677610323
top kek
New to this game, just played for 16 hours and i can say this game is dope. Not as good as Skyrim tho.
>>677610031
There's certainly parts of New Vegas that are better than FO:2.
The Sierra Madre, for example, wouldn't have been nearly as terrifying (provided you play on very hard/hardcore survival like an actual Courier worth his fucking salt) in a top-down RPG style.
Also, something about going 10-ish real-life years without seeing the fledgling NCR conglomerate, and discovering they're grown so big they've expanded into Vegas...that was a feeling I doubt I'll ever have again.
It was okay. I ended up spending most of my time at the fishing pond with a sinking lure though trying to catch a lunker so I could get a heart fragment. Go figure.
>>677609336
any other great RPGS out there other than the usual ones that get mentioned? (Witcher, Skyrim, Mass Effect etc etc)
![patrick-bateman-american-psycho-[2].png](https://i.imgur.com/SPlCW0c.png "patrick-bateman-american-psycho-[2].png")
>>677610477
>>677610682
>(Witcher, Skyrim, Mass Effect etc etc)
Those are all shit RPG's though.
I done every single ending in a space of 36 hours and every single one is identical apart from one, but even then the ending dialogue is basically the same. A huge disappointment and I haven't played it since January and the reason I played it in January because I wanted to test out a new GPU
>>677610911
Please enlighten us as to what RPG's you think are good.
What are peoples specs for this game and how well does it run on them?
Torrent it. Only DLC had real fallout feeling. Got some great moments, but less 2. worst fallout game. If f3/nv and this mixing up (NV base, settlements, companion/weapons/armor upgrade, graphics from 4 ) will be an excellent game. But mostly tragic.
>>677604017
Personally I thought it was boring and so easy. Guns don't degrade, legendary weapons are thrown at you all the time, forces you have companions a lot of the game and the forces you use the base building shit.
>>677610682
Wouldn't call Witcher and Skyrim good RPGs.
Good sandboxes with a loose story.
Pillars of Eternity was a superb RPG, but you need to be able to handle micromanaging your party and (compared to Witcher/Skyrime/ME) have competency in semi-advanced combat tactics. Or just play on Easy.
Rich world, rich story, real character development on p'much all your party members, main character development is pretty well done. And a super-dungeon to boot.
>>677611062
New Vegas
>>677604017
It basically has no heart. I can forget about the shitty decisions. But the lack of soul, that dead world with no actual evolution or good storytelling...
It's just bland.
>>677605051
>multiple choice
>immediately a mass effect rip off
Opinion discarded, you're a dipshit.
>>677604017
you get the super sledge within 10 minutes and its the best weapon in the game and rapes everything in vats
shit like every other fallout
>>677604017
>Rpg elements are worse than any other fallout game
> Shooting is worse than far cry
> story and dialogue manage to be worse than bioware games
> open world is worse than the Witcher
> settlement building is pretty cool
As of now it's not a bad game but it's not worth its price. Wait till mods are out.
As far as DLC goes I think New Vegas takes it hands down
>>677608733
>implying some choices dont lead into other choices
Confirmed for never having played FO4, kill yourself notalgia ridden nigger.
>>677604317
why are your elevators placed so retardedly?
>>677611492
Half and half, as usual with Bethesda. Honest heart was shit.
>>677611137
Also your choices don't matter 90% of the time, you could do every option and it will always come the same as everyone else. There is also fuck all on the map. It's all done around diamond city then makes you go to the other side of the map with 0 content so you can talk to some mutant twice then it's all around the institute gamer over. Wish I knew about the refund option after I brought it
>>677611332
Multiple choice but the choices don't mean anything.
I was referencing Mass effect 3 specifically.
>>677611570
No it wasn't, it's obviously not as good as Old World Blues but it was pretty good, it fit the Mojave Wasteland theme well
>>677611624
>but the choices don't mean anything.
Ok, so theres not like 6 different endings?
Faggit
>>677611570
True but I think the lonesome road, dead money, and the GRA make up for it for sure.
>>677611697
It's based on what factions you side with at the end, go away shill.
>>677611680
Oh it does. I was all for it. But how uninteresting was the story ! And the ending ? Anticlimatic.
>>677611697
There are 4 in Fallout 4, 3 of which are identical but the one that's not is still pretty similar in the end dialogue
>>677604017
Good game, not a great game though. The gameplay is fairly repetitive so if you like that kind of thing you'll love it, if you don't it'll be a slow grind.
>>677611750
Dead money had great ambiance but the gameplay wasn't exceptionnal. Lonesome Road, tho, perfect conclusion.
>>677611697
The end cut scene is the same.
Only thing different is which faction you can do boring radiant quests for.
>>677611794
I enjoyed it personally. I understand your point but still, I liked it
>>677611516
Uh. That's not even close to his point.
His point was that conversations have been gutted to potato mode. All those options you see in 3 and NV? That's one response, which lead into others--something you use to defend the 4-response potato dialogue. Now sit there and tell me the two choices of siding with the Institute or siding with EVERYONE else is compelling. Then tell me that somehow the BoS vs. Minutemen is an engaging choice.
Fuck christ, go play an actual fucking RPG. You fucking millenial tool.
>>677611570
Dude. Joshua Graham and Randall Clark backstory. C'mon.
>>677611750
>>677611850
That being said, I suck NV's dick every morning when I wake up, every night before going to bed.
It's riddled with flaws, but so damn, damn good.
>>677604017
It's worth a play through. I preferred New Vegas for story and junk. They put a lot of enjoyable things in it and I do like that the weapons aren't kill after ten minutes.
>>677611516
>>implying some choices dont lead into other choices
They don't. Every dialog choice always leads to the same one response.
Not the best Fallout game ever but it's still pretty good
>>677611961
>yours truly
*you'res truly
fucking bethesda.
>>677611931
If you're basing a DLC on a backstory, inject that backstory in the actual gameplay, not as simple dialogs. I'm a SJW feminazi white knight and I could not give two shits about those tribals assholes.
>>677612051
Yours truly is correct you moron.
>>677612051
You're a fucking asperger
>>677611948
If 4 had the two-step goodbye I'd be a huge fucking fan
>>677612103
>inject that backstory in the actual gameplay, not as simple dialogs
Did you...actually do the Randall Clark/Survivor storyline?
It was all in the exploration, a theme perfectly fitting a former national park/off-the-grid tribal area. You eventually find out where Randall Clark laid down to rest, find him, and you get a unique Service Rifle for the efforts (along with a story detailing his survival from the Great War until ~40 years later and his significant influence on the region)
>>677611516
yeah your exciting choices are
>help the brotherhood blow up the reactor destroying the institute
>watch explosion from top of building
>help the minute men blow up the same reactor destroying the institute
>watch the explosion from the exact same place just with different people there
>help the railroad destroy blow up the same reactor to destroy the institute
>watch the explosion from the same place with different people there
so much variety
>>677609336
>Skyrim 2
>>677612418
No, that's true, actually. That was the one good thing in that DLC. But the main quest shoulda been more like that. There a pretty good setting.
I think that all in all, most Fallout games failed at exploiting the fantastic narrative ressources of a post-war wasteland.
The A Quest For Heaven mod series for Fallout 3 was awesome that way. Very old abandonned bunkers, tragic stories, hours spent underground trying to wake an old facility up...
Whats the voice acting like in this game? Do we have more than 3 Voice actors now or no?
>>677612923
>But the main quest shoulda been more like that. There a pretty good setting.
I could get behind that. I suppose for me, walking alongside Joshua Graham was enough.
The only man (aside from the Courier) that Kaisar feared outright.
>>677613088
Lots of actors, decent acting for a game.
But the main character... Oh man. You can't even roleplay properly. He's annoying and idiotic and boring as fuck.
>>677604017
No. Play Witcher 3 instead.
>>677613149
just what I feared.
>>677613164
Not until I finish 1 and 2. Fallout is different in that it isn't serial.
>>677604017
son is the head of the institute, older than you
>>677613251
Well, I think that concludes OP's questionning.
>>677612923
setting means dick all if the characters aren't interesting. most of that shit you mentioned was in fallout 4 but when you kill feral ghoul 1000 it doesn't fucking matter anymore.
i can only recall three storylines that were worth a shit in the entirety of fallout 4
1 - the guy imprisoned by his family in the asylum that is using his blood to stay alive indefinitely. genuinely cool storyline that could have continued/expanded
2 - douchebag rich kid dindu who wants to slang drugs but is actually a poser. ambushing him at the chem deal and violently interrogating the survivors for location of the lab. again cool story but then you go to the lab and theres absolutely no point of finding the secret lab/barely anything to loot
3 - pickmans gallery
there were so many characters that could have been cool (virgil) but the storyline was "hey get me the serum" and "oh thanks for the serum i guess cya around bro"
>>677613332
OFFBYONE
>>677613248
>Fallout is different in that it isn't serial.
Uh.
In Fallout 2, you are the son of the protagonist of Fallout 1.
The Courier (protagonist of New Vegas) may or may not be the son of the Fallout 2 protagonist. At the very least, factions from Fallout 2 are present in New Vegas (Followers, NCR, Jackals, Vipers, Khans, BoS).
The only one that isn't serial is Fallout 3/4. They're semi-serial to each other in that they both, comparatively, suck cock to FO:1/2/NV.
>>677613429
DONT FORGET THE FUCKING USS CONSTITUTION
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>>677613452
>Uh.
>>677613503
i played the game as a melee build so it was a pretty fucking broken questline of forced range combat
>>677613429
>there were so many characters that could have been cool (virgil) but the storyline was "hey get me the serum" and "oh thanks for the serum i guess cya around bro"
RIGHT?!
JESUS CHRIST he invented A CURE FOR FEV.
A cure for FEV. It's like the wet feverfuck dream of every post-war (and Pre war) scientist! He cured FeV, he literally undoes the forced evolution and repairs all the genetic modifications. Imagine if that shit got used on The Master, or Marcus?
And what does Bethesda fucking do with it?
>gonna stay in this cave for a bit, help yerself to my scrap shit, cyaz
>>677613429
Well, I disagree and agree. You can have an awesome game with next to no characters if the stroy is good.
BUT
What you said about 4 is true as fuck.
It feels so watered down. And your discoveries never feel like you've actually discovered something cool yourself. It's all so scripted.
I can see what they tried to do but it was a miss. Filling up your world with stories and non-repetitive dungeons was cool.
But the whole thing is incoherent. You have no impact on the world DESPITE building fucking settlements. Nothing evolves. Nothing happens in the cities.
Yeah, upgrading weapons and building stuff is cool and all, but actually making a new great game is not only about gameplay mecanics. Make something ALIVE for a change !
>>677613657
>this
Hope they release a future dlc for the cure or something but bethesda is a cuck so a dlc for that would be highly unlikely but im still expecting for it to happen
>>677613657
What are you going to do about it, the whole green zone (can't remember the name, can't bring myself to care) is absolutely empty.
>>677613452
Well, I have fond memories of those games even though I never really got far. They did seem to have a lot of grit and surviving wasn't obviously easy like it is now (bufftats + psychojet + disarming ripper = kill any enemy). I remember being poor and starving and randomly stumbling upon an abandoned truck with thousands of bottle caps in it. Was like Christmas.
>all these faggots complaining
why dont you faglords go complain to bethesda and tell them how shit fo4 was
>>677613798
so many characters/storylines that just fucking stop
>meet mayor of diamond city
>total fucking douchebag
>zero quests
>can't kill him he just drops to a knee and stays alive
>>677613621
BUT IT WAS THE ONLY QUEST IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING GAME TO HAVE SKILL/STAT CHECKS
>>677614167
It's exactly what I had in mind writing this.
THEY SHOULD HAVE FUCKING INCLUDED A MORE EXTENDED STORY LINE FOR THE CABOT FAMILY LIKE FUCKING SERIOUSLY ALIENS AND ALL THAT SHIT, CIVILIZATIONS THAT CAME BEFORE HUMANS, THE FUCKING HELMET THAT LORENZO CABBOT USED TO GAIN TELEPATHIC POWERS I SWEAR THAT BETHESDA IS GETTING LAZY AS TIME GOES ON GODDAMN
>>677614310
Also.
>>677613621
You know there's an elevator right? And when they make it onto the ship, melee is best.
>>677604017
It's just an even more linear version of Fallout 3. Bethesda is a bunch of lazy cunts and deserve no money for this pile of garbage.
As a game: 5/10
As a Fallout game: 1.5/10
> is this a good game?
Is this your first day on the internet?
en. wikipedia .org
/wiki/Fallout_4#Reception
>>677614578
>not linking the page
maximum newfag
>>677614578
Yeah, because reading a wikipedia page is so much more interesting than having a conversation.
>>677614578
>links to an article that unanimously disagrees with the posts itt.
this is the shittiest post i've ever laid eyes on, bro.
>>677614764
really, a page that summarizes authoritative sources is shit?
oh right. you all have anecdotal evidence. nevermind.
Bref, tout ça pour dire que New Vegas est clairement le meilleur Fallout de la génération 3D.
>>677614991
>authoritative sources
Wake up, sheeple.
>>677611148
Pillars of Eternity is a watered down version of Baldur's Gate. The only thing that is better is the graphics. The story is utter crap and there is constantly useless walls of texts from NPC only a faggot would read. The combat is horrendous with quite possibly the worst pathfinding in history of all rpg
>>677614991
>>677614991
yeah, there's empirical evidence that proves fallout 4 is objectively good. kotaku gave it a good review too.
>>677615173
That's homophobic.
>>677615173
>tl;dr
>I'm illiterate so paragraphs of words violate my safe space and I bitch about it like the chimp-nig i posted as an image
>>677615235
>yeah, there's empirical evidence that proves fallout 4 is objectively good
>objectively good
So. Much. Stupidity.
>>677615316
just look at the article anon linked. read the kotaku reviews. you don't believe me but all the facts are just out there for you to find out.
>>677614991
More importantly, Pete's dad told that Fallout 4 is a good game, he molests children though.
>>677615235
>empirical
>kotaku
Ok nigger.
>>677614991
>paid reviews
>DIS GAME 10/10 SO GEWD
>authoritative sources
>>677615402
>facts
>discussing appreciation of a video game
>>677610031
skyrim is the best fallout
>>677615402
Remember: Kotaku regularly gives Call of Duty games 9+/10.
Surely, their strict protocol of game critique is both adamant and accurate.
>>677615422
um yeah okay...
no ^_^
hai gobergitter!
if katoaku wasn't an objective source than why does it give the same score as ign, polygon, gamespot and all the rest?
>>677615508
i've already posted the wikipedia article WITH SOURCES what do you have besides hate speech and gamrgeet rhetoric
>>677615616
this
>>677611148
Witcher's story is 100x better than PoE.
>>677615704
What I meant to say you prehistoric retard, is that You don't expose FACTS "proving" anything is "good" in a thread discussing our appreciation of a game. It makes no sense.
You can prove a lot of work was put into this.
You can prove some mechanics are original and new.
You can prove that a majority of people enjoyed it.
You can't prove that it's good.
It's deeply, deeply stupid.
>the turn this thread juts took
>>677605399
>TES is what Bethesda is best at.
They're even fucking that up. If they continue to take away roleplay elements I'm afraid TES VI will be even less of an RPG than Fallout 4.
>>677615704
Critically Fallout 4 is in the 80's. playerbase however put's in in the 50's.
So my guess is a lot of the reviews have been bought.
>>677615578
Go an hero, faggot.
>>677615835
>Witcher
>Story
What exactly is engaging about being quasi-omnipotent?
>>677615975
>FACTS "proving" anything is "good"
Gibbering monkey, please speak English.
>>677616282
Learn my fucking language then you precious self-entitled prick.
>>677616175
The combat was dumbed down because of consoles. Might have made the game too easy, but I still like watching the story unfold around me.
>>677615288
>
No you fucking retard. All the walls of texts that are written for NPCs (NPCs that all have a fancy name and don't matter for shit in the game) are written by nerds that backed up the project on kickstarter as a throwaway bone.
This is why they make zero sense 100% of the time.
"As you stared on the huge man that glances over you with a reluctant severity only a Kalamyr merchant would display, you perceive the soft dew on the leaves and a familiar rustle in our mom's ass yadayada"
Also the "soul reading" ability is probably the worst cliché of RPGs if I ever saw one
>>677605051
>Also If you quicksave and try out all the choices you'll quickly realize that none of the choices you make do anything different.
There's a mod that displays the full text of what you're about to say in place of the simplified dialog wheel, and it's readily apparent that every dialog option for every conversation in the game, except like 3 main quest ones, ultimately says the same thing, except maybe, if you're lucky, an extra "let's have this exact same conversation later" option.
>>677616398
DELETE THIS ONE
>>677616525
I take it you didn't read many books/comics/Tolkein as a kid.
Or as an adult. If we can call you that.
It's an eclectic mix of modern gaming and old story-telling. You get to use your imagination (shocker) and see a rich, beautiful 3D world at the same time.
>>677604017
Give it another one and a half to three years and it will be a great game.
Gotta have time for all the dlcs to drop and THEN the player made mods that fix and perfect everything
>>677616721
No. All the kickstarter backstories were pretty gay. After that there wasn't even that much.
It's a shame they lost the rights to do DnD games because they have talent, just not when it comes to creating their own world.
Divinity - Original Sin beats PoE in every way.
>>677616721
>
No I didn't read any of your autistic books. I was too busy dipping my dick left and right.
>>677604017
no, once the creation kit comes out and people can finally start fixing it maybe it will be good but as of now its shit
>>677604017
i dropped it 10 hours in. its fun for a little bit but the story is dog shit and it becomes very repetitive very quickly
>>677616955
Again, I am just about certain you didn't read / don't read so your imagination didn't have a chance to develop.
Also *reasonably* sure you're not that old, and came into gaming long after limited graphics obligated using your imagination to flesh out the finer details of the game worlds portrayed to you.
Honestly; I feel bad for you. You don't have a healthy imagination so you 100% have to rely on what's displayed on-screen. I imagine you're not very good at DnD/W40K either.
>>677617012
Alpha as fuck!
May your descendants scrub all the toilets, friend.
>>677604017
Not bad at all. Try it
>>677617012
>No I didn't read any of your autistic books. I was too busy dipping my dick left and right.
You're so fucking upset. Clearly getting mad pussy has made you a well-balanced and fulfilled person later in life.
>>677604017
Donald Trump himself couldn't make that game to be even good
ITT: Fags
Fallout 4 is ass and deserves no praise
>shit shooting
>shit dialogue
>shit story
>shit world
>shit side quests
Witcher 3, fallout 3, and skyrim are godlike
even vanilla skyrim was better
>>677617242
Yes... because I thought the world was shit, and the story boring. I must not have read. Shitbrick I have a fantasy book collection of over 300. I have no problem reading.
And I'm 40 as well. So 0/2 there on the assumptions. Got a great imagination at that, so 0/3, and I played DnD / V:TM for close to 15 years. Haven't played in ages though. so 0/4.
I find the story utterly boring and the characters shit.
>>677617489
>shit shooting
>shit world
i disagree
>shit dialogue
>shit story
>shit side quests
i agree
>fallout 3 and skyrim are godlike
kek i got trolled hard
>>677617620
>book collection
get a kindle, grandpa, shiet
>>677605051
>>677616591
Also, I wanted to add
>>http://forums.obsidian.net/index.php?automodule=blog&blogid=3&showentry=128
>Never give false options. Do not create multiple options that lead to the same result. It insults players' intelligence and does not reward them for the choices they make.
>Don't put words in the player's mouth. With the exception of conditional replies (gender, skills, stats, etc.), phrase things in a straightforward manner that does not mix a request for information with an emotionally loaded bias ("I'd like to know what's going on here, jackass.").
Two principles that NV followed for its dialog, Bethesda managed to violate for practically every conversation in the game.
>>677617620
>And I'm 40 as well. So 0/2 there on the assumptions. Got a great imagination at that, so 0/3, and I played DnD / V:TM for close to 15 years. Haven't played in ages though. so 0/4.
The fact that you are 110% hellbent on proving a stranger on 4chan wrong...tells me you're lying. But you're probably right, I'm wrong in every single thing I say I do. Wheras you, you are correct in every single thing you say and do.
>I find the story utterly boring and the characters shit.
Sounds more like a personal problem
I feel like reinstalling New Vegas.
you can have fun with the game, but there really isn't anything that will hook you in. It's easier to get invested in fallout 3 or new vegas.
>>677617814
No. Just showing you that your assumptions about me are wrong. Assumptions you made because I think that a game you like is shit.
I never said you were wrong about everything you say or do. I said you were wrong in your assumptions.
>>677604017
Don't listen to these idiots. It's an excellent game. Spent 2 months doing all side content then finishing the game. Developing settlement is very fun and scavenging is always great.
The item system with legendary is great, no more repairs, you can build enhancements and lots of customization.
Combat is great too, the radiant quests are nice (although some are timed which sucks)
Also, the universe is still very believable and immersive and the experience is just awesome overall.
That is, if you're not a nostalgic retard whose life degenerated so much over those past decades that he feels like everything was better "before"
>>677614167
How far have you got? It's later revealed he's a synth and tries to kill one of his guards and escapes, you can choose to kill him or not
just dont go in expecting a fallout game, you basically want to go in expecting call of duty
>>677618046
>I never said you were wrong about everything you say or do.
>No. Just showing you that your assumptions about me are wrong.
Someone has short-term memory issues.
>>677617731
I have an e-reader, but I still have around 1700 books too.
>>677618093
Do you even understand English?
How is me saying "your assumptions about me are wrong" equate to me saying everything you say or do is wrong?
>>677618118
at the end of the day the only reason to have a physical book collection now that e-readers exist is to check for misprints and possibly in the event of the apocalypse.
>>677604317
Stopped playing when I realized the vault can't die no matter what
>>677618244
>How is me saying "your assumptions about me are wrong" equate to me saying everything you say or do is wrong?
Because I stated the assumptions.
Also, you can't agree with me on a single thing. P'sure if that, 4 posts ago, I told you the sky was blue, you'd have told me it was white 'cus clouds.
Just let it go.
>>677618054
FO4 has little to no fucking side content
>2 months
Please try 2 weeks to 100% it's a fucking minuscule amount of shit to do
>>677618289
I'll still stop by the odd Yardsale and pick up some books if I see ones I might like for cheep.
It's probably my age, but I do prefer physical books to e-books, at least when it comes to reading at home. If I'm going on vacation I'm not going without my e-reader.
>>677604017
It's a good game but just not a good Fallout game
>>677618395
And those assumptions are the things I corrected you about. I never said you installing New Vegas was wrong.
Also I'm not the original guy you were arguing with. This >>677616955 is my first post to you.
>>677618093
I hope you actually realize we're 2 different persons anwsering you on PoE and we both think it's shit.
But hey, we must both be wrong and the game must be sooo great and immersive as the dialogs are written by random people
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>>677618561
>>677618501
I enjoyed doing the radiant quests they were fun for once. This is why my PT lasted a long time. I also tried to explore 100% even though I'm pretty sure I missed things.
>>677618561
this
>>677618507
fair enough
>>677618061
finished the game and couldnt stomach another run of it. never encountered that but that sounds unoriginal enough to be true
>gets accused for covering up synth activity in the city first time you meet him
>nothing happens for dozens of hours of gameplay
>he wuz a synth all along
>>677618930
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>>677619090
>>677619119
>>677619005
>decide i was going to read and explore the game and try to enjoy it
>get to factory
>giddyup buttercup
>all the computers are full of brony references
yeah fuck that game
![tumblr_m7swmtmv7n1rn95k2o1_250_zps880b4a1e[2].gif](https://i.imgur.com/ka6aYQu.gif "tumblr_m7swmtmv7n1rn95k2o1_250_zps880b4a1e[2].gif")
>>677619200
>>677612339
If shit degraded it be better
I believe new Vegas is better than 3 not because of story but for dialogs quests items and a lot more weapons than in 3
Prove me wrong
Idk about 4 cause poor fag
>>677619512
>unnecessary time wasting mechanic
>would have made the game better
yeah they didn't need enemy variety, meaningful choices in dialog, better developed characters and side quests, better endings to the game
the make or break was definitely that my guns didn't have to be fixed
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>>677619623
>poor fag
>>677604017
There hasn't been a bad Fallout game, and 4 is not an exception.
"You wanna compare a Hanzo sword,
you compare it to any other sword, wasn't made by Hittori Hanzo"
![1313777142002[2].png](https://i.imgur.com/4u57Gcw.png "1313777142002[2].png")
>>677619690
>unnecessary time wasting mechanic
just like real life
![1421554537762[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/hJO7zY3.jpg "1421554537762[2].jpg")
>>677619853
sup doc
>>677619966
Nice double dubs but you keep confusing me more and more
>>677604017
I like it. Buggy as shit though.
>>677604017
https://youtu.be/dZu7_z7SDEQ
>>677610323
Grammur*
![tumblr_o0obynlHIz1ulra1mo1_540-1024x954[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SC7J6nh.jpg "tumblr_o0obynlHIz1ulra1mo1_540-1024x954[1].jpg")
>>677620836
i'm playing it in these days lvl 50 +-....some stuff can be much much better with the possibilities we got nowdays for games....but in general i'm enjoying it....buy it when it will cost 15 bucks...
![christian_bale_american_psycho_patrick_bateman_axe_10989289_RE_PwnzElite_has_declared_war_on_Grammar_Nazis-s400x300-173837[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nVuQDar.jpg "christian_bale_american_psycho_patrick_bateman_axe_10989289_RE_PwnzElite_has_declared_war_on_Grammar_Nazis-s400x300-173837[2].jpg")
