What is it that liberal democrats want that hasn't already been forced onto the US?
>>677526368
Nothing is being forced. The voters that like what the democrats say, exercise their constitutional right. You have an issue with other people having other opinions?
>>677526368
The same things conservative Republicans want.
>>677526368
Inter-racial, gay marriage with forced abortions.
democracy
>>677527346
only your mom
>>677527461
Yeah right
>>677526368
>forced
>passed into law, Constitutionally
>faggot OP
two of these things are true
Things they think that are "free".
>implying Clinton is liberal
get it out of your head that there's two distinct parties, they both serve the same establishment, and represent the establishments way of controlling people (the age-old divide and conquer strategy)
>>677527598
I meant bernie democrats, who knows what the fuck hillary wants, she's just running because she wants to be president
>>677527924
Not at all constitutionally unless you squint very hard
>>677526968
The voters like what the democrats say
Not really. It's partly bundling since there are plenty of other issues they disagree with GOP on
>>677526368
>What is it that liberal democrats want that hasn't already been forced onto the US?
The death of the GOP. Protip: It's happening.
>>677528198
I know what you meant. And bernie supporters dont like democracy
>>677527948
You forgot to say
>implying bernie is liberal too
>>677528526
>>677527461
Even as someone who'd prefer Sanders, I can confirm that there's a strong anti-democratic sentiment among Sanders supporters this years. Black Science Man said it well recently.
Remember this line every time they imply that someone is too stupid and uneducated to vote.
>>677526968
I have a problem with handing out special accommodations to everyone that thinks they deserve one and making the taxpayers fund the laziness of those who are capable of getting a job but choose not to.
>>677528973
Exactly. Bernie supporters hate democracy.
>lets pay protestors to drown out trump
>>677526368
i want an end to these stupid wars, an end to the brutality of the american empire, i want a country in which everyone can live respectably no matter their position in society, i want an end to the oligarchy, i want an end to police brutality and an end to the panopticon life for law-abiding citizens
>>677528973
Pic confirmed.
I've always liked Black Science Man, but I like him more now.
>>677529607
haha faggot
>>677529217
We all hate democracy to some degree, but it's the best system we've come up with so far. It's terrible at selecting the optimal choice, but at least it's offers some protection against the worst extremes.
>inb4 some ignorant fag thinks anyone is extreme this election cycle
>>677529150
So it's down to you not getting it your way, eh?
Well that's how democracy works, like it or leave it.
>>677529770
fuck u dumbass hope your next birth you learn your lesson privileged bumblefuck
>>677530078
what the fuck is a next birth holy shit im laughing my semen out my balls lmaoooo
>>677530183
its called reincarnation retard
>>677530255
kill yourself my man
>>677530255
Are you trolling?
>>677530255
Holy fuck
>>677530314
kill myself? i've got a lot of work to do. some people on this planet actually want to change things.
>>677527346
>>677526368
I personally just don't want to have to turn on the news to everyday see an evil pantsuit wearing lizard woman doing her evil laugh and yelling in that empty yet trying to sound enthusiastic way every day. Shit will be like a literal everyday nightmare.
>>677528518
sure kid.
>>677529948
spoken like a true liberal
>>677529607
that's what the democrats promised in 2006.
see how well they keep their promises.
>>677530619
same with everyone else.
>>677530619
Just let the lizards win, m8.
>>677526368
Equality.
The Democratic party isn't liberal though, so you have nothing to fear. Real liberals look on in disgust as Americans are so far right that Hilary seems left to them. Bernie finally edges towards liberal fiscal policy and social policy.
>>677530255
>>677530959
enter bernie sanders.
>>677530535
just do the work in your next life
>>677531444
checked. thats not how it works only the present exists.
>>677531251
Hahahahahaha
Are you really buying what he is saying? Damn lol goes to show you that if you look nice and grandfatherly people will trust you.
>>677529948
It's about principle. You earn your way, you don't beg the government to give you a handout. It's not the government's job to make sure no one's precious little feelings get hurt.
>>677529948
>like it or leave it
So you either left when Bush was in office, or you liked it. Bash me all you want, I don't expect any less from you, it's a fair assumption.
>>677531536
his trust has been earned by his record dude. the man's a saint.
The problem with democracy is the citzens inevitably vote away their rights.
>>677531158
Hillary is a certified gangster and she's winning the dem votes.
Again, what is it about the democratic liberals that is so appealing?
>>677530903
So truthful it hurts
>>677530959
Obama kept or compromised on over 80% of his some 400+ promises.
The presidential average is about the same. All presidents do a pretty good job at doing what they say they'll do.
The problem is, democrat or Republican, their opposition will block them on a thing or two, then pay to have the media parade around their few failures, even though the opposition is so strongly in control of what does it doesn't happen, because America is NOT a dictatorship, and the entire political cabinet, left and right, get shit done TOGETHER.
>>677531444
also human birth is the most rare and none of these problems might exist in another birth i could be a dinosour so its kind of like irrelevent and my chance to prove myself is now
>>677530903
It's called marketing. And it works on any society. Whoever markets better gains the support of society.
>>677531689
the public is simply i think.. either submitting to the establishment or just brainwashed
>>677531758
:^)
>>677531251
don't think so. if he is so good why not an independent?
you will just vote for Hillary anyways.
same old shit , wash, rinse, repeat.
at least she's not a republican hurr durr.
>>677531689
i know that a lot of dem voters work 3 jobs and only news they here is from tv which is biased pro-hillary. i know its hard to believe but watch "black men for bernie' on youtube there is seriously people who got no clue out there voting for hillary
>>677526968
Higher taxes are forced, that was the powder keg that started the revolutionary war and it will probably happen again.
>>677526368
Libfags have already brought America down from being the number 1 country in the world to like number 17 or some shit. I guess they want it to bottom out to Sodom and Gomorrha.
Problem with libfags is they vote on what they "think" is best for them--not what is best for the country. That's like voting for a CEO at your company that has a consistent record of failure, who then proceeds to run the company into the toilet, then you have no job, no life, no nothing--but hey, you got to buttfuck your buddy Fred at work while it lasted. Now enjoy the bed you made with the rest of your life.
Fact is, you should vote for the guy who will make the country prosper. All that moral and ideological shit and pandering to your votes (the dems do this far more than the repubs, and I'm not repub btw) counts for shit. No one can deliver on any of that. What they might be able to do is put the country on the right track for prosperity.
Democrats just don't care about the future or their children. The fact that Hilary is winning (and that literally ANYONE would vote for her) is proof. She is the biggest liar this country has ever seen. Shameful.
>>677531611
Hillary is a fucking women she needs to get back to the kitchen.
>>677531969
hes running as democrat so that he can have a better chance at winning and creating real change. his campaign and supporters with how big it has gotten has already sent a HUGE message. the war has only begun. so what if we lost the first battle.
also idk about that i might vote for trump or even jill stein
i dont demonize republicans its not black and white and if a republican is better than a dem (might be the case this election with clinton) i might vote for them
>>677531697
we are still in the middle east. the economy is still in the toilet. gitmo is still open etc, etc, etc. all we got from him is a shit healthcare law.
hell he never taxed the oil company's like he said he would.
>>677532263
your trolling.
>>677531851
Hillary is basically the same as Boss Tweed from the 1850s in New York City. She uses muscle work to gett what she wants and she has no respect at all for democracy. She wants to be queen
Let me tell you this, if this hag gets elected there will be a civil war. And ahe will be aming the first to be slaughtered
>>677531758
how rare is a human abortion and how can we raise those odds for your next go-around?
>>677526368
communism
>>677532059
>>677531689
Hillary supporters are illinformed? That can't be!
https://youtu.be/oKosd0xJadE
https://youtu.be/eiZFXkmofgI
>>677530752
I like how you went straight to the insult without even bothering to explain yourself, halfwit
In Donald We Trust
Trump 2016
>>677532279
Hillary should be neutralized
>>677532395
>civil war
Right.
>>677532161
No, there's an election. Thus choice. How fucking entitled can one be?
>>677526368
Relevant picture is relevant.
>>677532395
its true i think a big reason she has been doing better than bernie is just because shes ruthless and a machine and she is working with the establishment which is also ruthless and a machine, and yeah i wouldnt be surprised by riots if she won. there probably will maybe be a little pissyness if trump wins too but yeah probably not as bad. idk about civil war i mean do we really want to throw this all away? but idk like hey its always good to be ready for anything and to like enjoy it if shit goes down lol
>>677532400
why the hate duderino?
>>677532409
yeah idk man democracy, does it really work with how ignorant people can be? i guess we get what we ask for?
>>677528973
I agree. Berniefag here. I detest Hillary. No question the election has been rigged against Bernie. If Bernie sides with Hillary and accepts a VP position (or anything), I will vote Trump.
If Bernie betrays us, most Berniefags have said we will vote Republican no matter what.
A vote for Hillary is just a vote to destroy this nation more. She's a proven liar and a thief. She can't be trusted. Why anyone would believe anything she ever says is beyond me.
I'll be going from no-vote to Trump-vote if Bernie doesn't get the nomination and then betrays us by jumping on the Hillary bandwagon--that means everything he said is bullshit.
>>677531587
No, this is not about a certain administration. You either let democracy be democracy or you don't.
>>677532723
I'll start it.
God bless the day she gets elected.
Fuck yea. We take back America. The 2nd American Confederacy.
God I can't wait till the beacon of freedom and liberty shines again
>>677532360
Look at how he said nothing bad was happening with the va when shit was rolling down hill, look at how he has voted for immigration. Do some research outside of your echo chamber, lol sanders is righteous kek
>>677526968
and when the liberal democrats don't like what the voters say, they run to the first sympathetic judge to overrule the vote
>>677532191
America is #8, and before you act like that means you're ruined, that still means you boast an extremely high quality of life. You also havent been number one in a very, very long time. Decades.
Also numbers one through twenty and beyond are all socialist democratic countries and have every single "libfag" policy you Americans get so angry about.
You are slipping because, like every form of government, capitalism has highly exploitable flaws. In your case, it's that a rich elite can form and suck all the money out of the economy, which is exactly what happened to your country.
They then run massive propaganda campaigns to make sure you blame immigrants, hippies and black people.
Meanwhile, in the rest of the world, we're all like "lawl north Koreans actually believe Kim jong il pulls the sun up in the morning because that's what their media says. Ahh.. Let's see what equally foolish things Americans believe today."
>>677532400
also ones karma is in no ones hands but their own so sorry bud
>>677531158
might be the worst misinformation propaganda meme I've ever seen in the history of 4chan
you aren't embarrassed to post that?
how embarrassing for you
>>677532997
Democracy is just the majority bullying the minority.
>>677533046
You just had your 13th birthday I assume?
>>677526368
>>677533148
>calling something out as misinformation while not providing any sources as to why
>>677533094
All in accordance with the law. There's nothing stopping rebublicans from doing the same
Voting for a women is like voting for a gay guy...
To bad the white race is turning into a bunch of cock sucking over sensative pussys.
>>677526368
They want legalization of pedophilia.
Another 8 years of a democrat would accomplish this easily.
Don't believe me? Not even 20 years ago we were worshiping anti-homosexual music artists like Eminem.
Never underestimate the power of the left wing, they are death incarnate.
>>677533184
Sounds cruel. Lets just throw out that mean old democracy and have a dictatorship instead.
>>677533184
Wanna cry on my shoulder?
>>677532997
why are we even talking about democracy? we live in an oligarchy... WAKE UP
>>677526968
> liberals
>constitution
pick one
>>677532191
Democrats are consistently better for the economy though, liberal policies are not to blame for economic problems of America
>>677532997
Fair enough.
>>677533184
So if a few Islamic refugees came to the US, should we grant them special privileges or change our laws to fit their desires like Sharia Law wherever they may be?
>>677532809
When Obama care was passed the legislature didn't have time to even read the bill. It was amended at 3am the morning they were to vote on it. Democrats where in power and they didn't even know what was in it, which amounted to massive taxes and fines on individuals and corporations.
The transition from general fund payments to fee based departments is also a way of forcing taxes on people. Look at storm water charges. They aren't really a fee based service but a general government responsibility since it's not use based.
The idea that you can vote in massive taxes on small groups is faulty and will lead to a revolution or succession eventually.
>>677533436
Sounds good to me.
>>677532279
I don't even like Hillary but damn, are you 12?
I'd like transgenderism to be made into a recognized religion, a solitary tribute to the two Muslim pilots who did 9/11, and full women's rights.
>>677529607
You really think that's all possible?
>>677533216
No, 27th
I would seperate states and shut down the federal government, then I would make the US into seperate countries like Europe>>677533301
>>677532191
>Libfags have already brought America down from being the number 1 country in the world to like number 17
>tfw all those countries that are higher than US are all those evil communist European countries filled with disgusting liberals.
I guess all the Muslims invading those countries are their conservatives and are the ones making those countries so great.
>>677533482
Refugees should have the expectation that they will have to conform to this country's laws. No hand outs.
>>677533585
Glad you're not running for office then.
>>677533585
Ditto
>>677533481
bernie would be good for the economy is truth
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/bernie-sanders-nordic-countries/473385/
>>677532850
>implying tuition free college means you get a monthly check for food and rent when you go to college
It's not like you can indefinitely live off of tuition free college, what a joke
>>677533148
The majority of the world would call that pretty accurate. Unless if you live in a myopic fox news bubble world.
>>677526368
The ability for stupid people to find >>>/pol/.
>>677533492
What is Obamacare?
One of the largest increases in welfare and taxation in US history.
Taxation which rests almost entirely upon the middle class.
>>677533419
Hmm this is pretty interesting to think about. What things can be made legal because of gay acceptance on a small scale.
The only federal taxes there should be should be is a consumption based tax, such as a 3 percent federal tax on all goods transactions.
>>677533633
That's a good answer my fellow anon. Assimilation works and multiculturalism fails.
>>677533357
Nero for president.
>>677526368
More crumbs for the poor and less violent cops. It's simple
>>677533795
seriously all you gotta do is look at europe and you'd see this isnt how any of this works
>>677533419
>They want legalization of pedophilia
name one prominent liberal who supports this
>Not even 20 years ago we were worshiping anti-homosexual music artists like Eminem
When was Eminem ever anti-homosexual? He used the word faggot but not in a derogatory way
>>677529150
Societies that do this live healthier and happier lives. Don't get me wrong, I don't want Bernie to get in and I'm not American. I don't want your money going to programs to make you healthy and happier, I want you to have more money to buy the shit we produce so my country can have excellent social programs. I'm hoping for Trump or Hillary to get in.
>>677533419
My friend, when the shit hits the fan I'm coming to find you because you see above and beyond what the normal man sees.
I also sense that the legalization of pedophilia is one of the end goals in liberalism. This has been bothering me for a while now
The question is, what do the good men do when they evil being done?
>>677526368
Free healthcare, livable wages, affordable higher education, and a government that isn't clogged up by a bunch of rich assholes having a beauracratic pissing contest.
>>677532317
Yes. You have pointed out 4 policies he couldn't get the Republican to cooperate on, and naturally,exactly like I just fucking clearly said happens, you know all about it and you're angry as hell because the republicans paid the media to highlight these errors to help them win the election.
The same way the democrats painted George bush as a nightmare president.
I'd like to draw your attention back to Obama making over 400 promises, keeping 80% of them, like every other president ever.
I'm.not arguing for or against democrats here. Just trying to get through to you how much your media bullshits in your country. It is some kind of an amazing circus from the outside looking in, and listening to Americans is astounding.
I'm a libfag, and as much as I hate my conservative party. They defend their position well, with real sound logic and intellectual discourse, and I don't vote against them because they're stupid, it's because I respectfully disagree.
Your conservative party spent a few news days on trumps speculative penis size.. Come.. On..
>>677533419
>They want legalization of pedophilia.
This would be reason to support them if it were true
>>677534069
I just want to stop being told I have to care about everyone's problems and help solve their problems. That's not the fucking government's job.
>>677533357
>>677534134
Here here brother.
>>677534115
>when they see
>>677533419
Damn all those liberals in the south and their lowering of the age of the consent. At least those nice conservative Californians wanna keep it up there amirite.
>>677534161
Damn straight.
>>677534134
I know that's if Bernie gets in and I don't want that for Americans. We already have those things in my country and we live very healthy happy lives. I don't want this for America because they will have less money to piss away on stupid shit they don't need but think will make them happy. I want the Americans to keep believing their system is the best and keep borrowing money to buy our products and support our free health care and other social programs.
>>677534115
The liberals will die off by their own hand, they will flood the country with foreigners and they will kill the liberals.
Once this happens the "conservative" people will fight back against the Muslims who have mentally enslaved the blacks into believing that Christianity is the "white mans god" and therefore evil. This is how they will achieve a fighting force, as seen now at that Texas Mosque.
https://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/armed-hate-group-backs-out-of-texas-mosque-protest-when-faced-with-gun-toting-worshipers/
Islam and pedophilia come hand in hand. You can ask any combat veteran from Iraq/Afganistan about the "culture" of those people and what they do with little boys.
>>677534215
Excellent. Please stick with that mindset and vote accordingly. I don't want you to be healthy and happy I want you to keep buying as much stuff as possible.
>>677534015
Bernie Fucking Sanders
http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/16/advocate-of-liberal-child-sex-laws-published-on-sanders-senate-website/
>>677535432
There is nothing in that article that is evidence that Bernie Sanders supports the legalization of pedophilia, what an absurd claim
>>677534215
But we live in a society with government. What is a government for if not to create societal solutions?
>>677534215
Sounds like most of Africa.
>>677535432
I read the whole thing. Where's the part that proves your point? If it's there I missed it if it's not you're a stupid faggot trying to spread misinformation.
>>677535907
To these people, the government just protects your rights. They don't care if you die without health care or starve because your employer pays you an unlivable wage
>>677535801
Sounds like you're pro-pedophila.
No wonder you liberals are flooding the EU and USA to push this agenda.
And you'll all scream racism when anyone dares say anything anti-pedophile.
You liberals have beaten the conservative black, blue, and bloody. But you can only beat a dog so much before it tears your fucking throat out.
WHITE POWER!
>>677526368
>50% of the populace reliant on the government for something in their day-to-day lives. Once that happens, then government will never shrink.
>>677526368
>What is it that liberal democrats want that hasn't already been forced onto the US?
Civilization?
>>677534215
Its not the government's job to run a country and solve problems?
>>677533481
>Democrats are consistently better for the economy though
Dead wrong.
Stop drinking the Koolaid.
Democrats are notorious for spouting untruths, making up statistics, and not telling the whole truth.
Anyone who has lived the past 50 years on the planet can tell you whether or not they were better off under the Republicans or the Democrats.
There have been 8 years of Obama and the U.S. has steadily declined. It's just about impossible to find a job now. All the industry has left (that was Bill Clinton and his deals with the Chinese, that funded his campaigns). All the high paying jobs are gone. Dems spout labor statistics based in McDonald jobs. Typical. Go get a college degree 20 years ago, get rich, or at least well above middle class. Now a college degree is pretty much worthless. Massive debt. Wall Street controls (they back the Dems, figure it out) and they destroyed the ecomony.
Clue: Democrats want big government, and one that micromanages every aspect of your life..
Republicans want small government, and want that does not intrude on your life.
These are the biggest differences between the fundamental principles of those two parties.
The last time the U.S. was #1 was under Ronald Reagan. That's just a fact.
>>677536209
Oh shit here comes the confederate flag and the white power screams. This discussion is officially going to be nothing but shit posting past this point.
>>677535432
If he does, then he definitely has my vote.
>>677534964
So basically when the muslims (who the liberals love so much) wipe their leftist filth off the face of the earth, the conservatives can reinstate the crusades and kill off the muslims again
This will be awesome :)
>>677536144
I don't get the Americans at all. They have no problem if their tax dollars go to bail out the super rich or fund retarded wars but refuse to put any of their tax money toward free health care and education. What's wrong with these people?
>>677536209
>Sounds like you're pro-pedophila
Hahahahahahahahaha
>you'll all scream racism when anyone dares say anything anti-pedophile
you have completely lost touch with reality
>>677534015
>He used the word faggot but not in a derogatory way
I use to listen to that faggot and you don't know what you're talking about, faggot. Try listening to his first and second album, faggot.
Also, I'm clearly not using the word faggot in a derogatory way either, faggot.
>>677536209
White people were always supposed to have the upper ground though
>>677533103
heh heh - not so bad.
Like the comparison of U.S. to N. Korea.
>>677526368
Mandatory sex changes for all CIS gendered hetero normative white male scum.
>>677536461
>>677536737
As am American, I will never understand. But to be fair, it's only retarded conservatives that think this way
>>677536826
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/exclusive-eminem-responds-to-rap-god-homophobia-accusations-20131104
Awaiting your goal post moving response.
>>677536942
Holocaust for the trannies and gays
We did it before, we'll do it again
>>677533629
Blacks>vote democratic
Gays>vote democratic
Mexicans>vote democratic
Muslims>vote democratic
Don't want to work>vote democratic
Want "promises" (only) of free government cheese>vote democratic
No one with any money or who has ever worked for anything (and is not a politician, tied to a political party, or tied to some absurd emotional issue to blind them to what is actually good for the country) ever voted anything but AGAINST Democrats.
If you care about what you worked for, want to keep it, not give it to the government, etc., you vote Republican. If you don't want the government in your business, you vote Republican. If you think you can spend that dollar better than the government can buying a $800 hammer, you vote Republican.
Having said that, I respect anyone's opinion to vote the way they want, but I've got to say it is next to impossible to summon a reason why ANY Democrat with half a shred of decency that can look themselves in the eye in the mirror and say they did the right thing would ever vote for Hillary. She is such a liar and frankly a criminal in my opinion.
>>677536737
because i make a lot of money and can afford it
fuck everyone else
>>677526368
mo free stuf
>>677533830
I doubt he was talking about the principle underlying your meme, but rather the bold faced lies in the text in and of itself. There's not a shred of truth to what that text says and the comparison is absurd. You do the opposite of make your point (which I agree with) by posting that type of pure bullshit.
>>677537116
I already know he changed his stance, but it doesn't change what he initially produced on his first and second albums which the article clearly states is anti-homosexual. This corresponds with what I initially said in response to you question: "When was Eminem ever anti-homosexual?"
He changed his ways but the matter still lingers.
>>677534215
>get government job
>boss tells me it's not my job to solve other people's problems.
>do nothing but browse /b/ all day for 30 years
>retire with full government pension and free health care plan.
>>677536949
>>677536935
As far as total ridiculousness of belief, and how much the government does to make sure to perpetuate those beliefs, yeah they arent far off from one another.
"Kim Jong IL pulls the sun up" is very comparable to "the earth is 6000 years old". A stance that is held by 46% of Americans, a stance that is continually debated, remains in a stalemate, and is actually affecting policy and education.
That's an easy one for you to see my point. I'll raise the difficulty for a lot in this thread.
It is well known by the rest of the world: universal health care works, taxes are not terrifying, wall Street robbed you all blind, most Muslims, like 99.9% don't give a fuxk about you because they're too busy having jobs and kids and hobbies, and they think the new iPhone pretty nifty.
Because they're people.
This is all just as crystal clear to us as Kim jong IL did not golf a perfect game with 18 hole in ones.
Think about it. Really, really think about it.
