What does Trump even stand for?
I'm from the UK so I have no involvement in American politics but all I hear is about Trump and how bad he is, why do people still vote for him?
>Insert UK fag comment if you dont know how to answer
>>677128361
Well here in Britain you will only ever hear bad stuff about people who dont follow the leftist PC agenda
The problem is that he's like a school yard bully; all talk. He has no viable plans for any of his ideas. He just spouts bullshit that all the ignorant people like.
>>677128802
are you talking about bernie in this post? it fits him perfectly. besides the bully part, because obviously bernie was bullied severely in school.
>>677128361
UKfag here.
My tuppenceworth? Trump is minted, he can't be bought out as he's funding his own campaign, he's made a lot of enemies but he doesn't give a fuck.
TRUMP 2016.
>>677129357
Why do you care for American politics while being in the UK?
Also, will there be another UKIP situation, with so much talk for UKIP then when the result came through UKIP was just hated by all?
>>677128361
Here in sweden he is also spoken of as the son of the devil by the media. Knowing who stands behind our media, I take that as proof that Trump is in fact a really good guy,
UK fag comment
>>677129656
American politics affect the whole planet, and I'd like to see that Shia muslim ape, Obama leave the White House. A complete change in American policy is needed, and Trump will deliver.
>>677129796
Gz on 1st ;)
>>677128361
You're fired
CAN'T STUMP THE TRUMP
>>677128361
Trump is a meme. Memes belong in 4chinz, not in political office.
>>677128361
Some of his policies are silly (the wall) but some make a lot of sense (h1b visa, his healthcare plan, etc.) His tax plan is iffy. But out of all the candidates i think he is the most willing to work with congress
>>677128361
Aside from all the other good reasons to vote Trump, the one I use the most is that in the past, when America was at its greatest, the leaders were either leaders in business and industry, or they were great military leaders first. Now you can go to college just for politics. Be a lawyer for a few years(which doesn't count towards any experience except for bullshitting your opinions into people's heads with only words). Every other candidate is a professional politician. Trump is an experienced businessman. He will operate based on the principals that made this country great once to make it great again.
Although I support Tump, I came acrss this today and was struck by the resemblance:
>>677128361
He's a really good salesman type but is totally ignorant about real issues, specially foreign affairs. And part of the way he appeals to average Joe murrican is by being generally racist and sexist.
>>677128361
are you familiar with the term "populism" ?
because that's it
>>677130084
you belong in an incinerator
>>677130195
So is bernie. The only on not is hillary and maybe cruz, well especially cruz
>>677130311
rly?
Why do we let rich people control things?
Trumps sole ambition in office would be to make the wealthy wealthier
>>677130438
Oh yah
>>677130441
Says who?
>>677128361
trump stands for the greatest fucking person the become president of the U.S.
>>677130311
so what? we're discussing Trump and his retard opinions here
go fuck yourself with Bernie
trump stands for
totally
ridiculous
usual
modern
politician
>>677130558
Says 2008
Whoaaahhhhhh whaaat
>>677128361
The
Revolutionary
United
Membership of
Pussies
Trump gives a good political shakeup that the US needs, unlike Sanders just injects communist ideology that hurts the economy and country pride
>>677130667
Dude brought up populism.
>>677130741
Explain
>>677130141
what time in american history are you thinking of when you say "it was great"?
>>677128361
"if they hatin, they prolly look up to you"
- a wise nigger
>>677131032
1776
>>677131119
so youre saying you want a second revolution?
>>677130877
about Trump you idiot, I bet you're the samefaggot who replies about berine here
>>677131032
i think he means that VERY brief interlude between after ww2 until the korean war.
i love how maerkunz actually believe america was always a nice place to live...
not so.
total squalor, urban and rural poverty were and still are rife.
I believe he started it as a joke but the retarded mericans took it too far for him to stop, so now is all or nothing
He stands for America. None of your fucking bongsness to understand him.
>>677130927
Something about the world economy pooping out
>>677129357
>what are trump's policies?
>comment that has nothing to do with policies
>typical trump supporter
>>677131201
Maybe
>>677131706
Non-intervention in foreign states, raising the minimum wage, expelling illegals, and creating jobs.
>>677131376
americans need a novelty president after obama.
i mean... he's a black guy named barack obama and drafted key and peele to help him in speeches. he might be the president that has jailed more journalists and whistleblowers, droned more children etc... but he is just the coolest president in the world.
He's just so slick.
You cant just revert to gray haired white men who speak entirely in platitudes.
you need another novelty president after obama. It's gotta be the donald or a chick...
if it ends up being hillary, the next prez after her is going to be a faggot or a tranny.
>>677131575
That explains why trump only wants to benefit the rich?
> be from Bongistan
> "Fish and chips fish and chips mum uni uni uni"
> "Don't elect Trump, Mohamed says so! "
> Bongbongbong
>was interested in what Trump stood for
>started a war
replace the first line with anything
>how 4chan threads go down
>>677131297
Pretty much from ww2 to the 60s. And to be fair the president has fuck all to do with job growth and gas prices. and all you have to do to not be poor is not be lazy and get a job. Yes it is literally that easy. I was poor. Lived right at the poverty line. Smoked weed and was in a band thinking I'd make it big. Grew up. Got job that wasn't a kids job making min wage. Plant work. Not poor. Own home 2 cars better than average credit after I tanked it into the 400s. Life's good if you work for it and don't expect a handout
>>677131799
which amendments would you say should go? what would the revolution be fought over?
>>677132208
The revolution is about the ammendments not being used properly. Look into the 10th ammendment and tell me we use that one properly.
>>677128361
Liberals hate him.
+1 for Trump.
>>677128780
This
>>677132519
im not making any claims or assumptions here. i want you to tell me what you think should be fought for
Trump 16
>>677132933
States rights
#trumptrain
>>677133186
can you give me more than two words.
>>677128361
>Wants to know what trump stands for
>asks b
Just go to his website OP
#buildthewall
He stands for winning the primary handily, then shitting the bed in the general election.
He thinks other countries are the reason our economy is tanking
He doesn't believe in climate change or that the environment should ever supercede the opportunity to make a quick buck
He believes only in winners and losers and that America must always win
He has about a 3rd grade understanding of politics
His image and ego are more important to him than anything
He believes that work is the greatest virtue in the country (which is good) but also believes that poor people are poor because they're lazy (heinously bad mistruth)
This is why I won't vote for him. As a taxpayer, I believe we should invest our country's wealth in healthcare and education and investing in our own country's population, but DT thinks building a 12 billion dollar wall in front of Mexico will somehow fix any of our problems
Understand now, OP?
That's why I'm not voting for him
Here is some light reading for you OP.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
>>677133247
I thought that was self explanatory. States rights. The 10th ammendment,while technically obeyed, has been bastardized by the commerce claus. This loophole has forced states to bend to the will of the federal government. The states shall enforce their own laws, the federal government should only have the power that was granted to it in the Constitution.
Mostly niggers, fags, traps and feminists that are afraid of him.
He's not sure what he stands for, but it's going to be great. It's going to be the greatest stand that's ever been stood.
It's hard work, and he lost a lot of friends on 9/11, but we're going to stand it together.
And the Mexicans and niggers are going to pay. Believe him, he'll make them pay.
>>677128361
What he stands for policy wise
>abortion should be illegal
>threaten Mexico into paying for a giant medieval style wall to keep Mexicans out
>stop people from entering the country based on religion (muslim)
>make america great again by saying it will be great again
>>677133698
can you talk about anything concrete, or will this remain unspecific boogeyman talk
>>677133832
Im sorry you dont understand how the framework of country has been warped. The ACA should not be law, yet it is. Federal drug laws shouldnt exist, but they do. The drinking age, anything that is a federal law, is not supposed to be
>>677134180
sounds like you wanna go back to pre-civil war law
>>677133441
This is absolutely nonsensical. The person who made this image is obviously retarded. Then again if you believe in the feasibility of the whole wall plan there is something wrong with your head.
>>677134180
You think there should be no Federal laws at all?
>>677131881
>>677134523
I want the states to make the laws. The united states of america should act like the eurozone. With the states making their own laws, and the federal government taking care of money, military, and interstate commerce (meaning they make sure states dont impose ridiculous fees to enter to trade goods)
>>677134645
Here
>>677134902
I think they should have limited power.
>>677134902
so you want the US to break apart into 51 countries?
>>677135047
To an extent yes.
>>677135182
....and you think trump is gonna go in that direction?
>>677134902
But some states are fucking retarded. Some states, if left to their own devices, would ban the teaching of evolution in schools, teach creationism in its stead, kindle a distrust of scientists and doctors, and generally be an Islamic shithole (but it's okay because they're replacing independent thought with Jesus slogans instead of Mohammad slogans).
>>677134902
you're a total fucking idiot.
the federal government is N E V E R going to do that. why would they just give up influence?
trump is running for president of the federal government of the US... he's not just going to weaken the government and he couldnt if he wanted to, which he doesnt.
you are a seriously retarded subhuman.
One of you faggots nerds to give a proper explanation of what Trump's policies are. This entire thread is regurgitated Trump rhetoric without any legitimate intelligent conversation.
>Inb4 muh merica needs rewhitened
muh merica needs rewhitened
>>677135314
No i wasnt the original poster who said great again or whatever. That wasnt me
>>677135566
Oh my i thought we lived in a democracy, you know where people pick their representatives. Thats their fault if they chose retarded people.
>>677135700
I never said i was voting trump.
>>677135867
why are you hijacking my line of questioning, i want the trumpbot to tell me why he wants trump
>>677136061
Idk where he is
>>677136123
I was the one who said 1776 though>>677136061
>>677128361
The only reason you keep hearing about how bad he is would be because a majority of American media is left controlled
I mean think about it, how many journalism/writing students do you think are republican? The only thing they ever say is "Trump is a racist, he has funny hair". Or more recently the cringey "drumpf" meme flop that is only used by cucks with nothing relevant to say.
After the whole Gamergate thing people are starting to see the media for what it is, now more than ever. The more they kick and scream and call him a racist, the more people look at them wondering why they ever considered them to be a reputable source of information. Trump pretty much destroys people in interviews and conversation because he knows exactly what to say 90% of the time.
>>677135867
>Their fault they elected retards
Not necessarily. The problem here is the younger generations don't vote and don't get the opportunity to do so. This then allows the average age range to be between 50-80+ making it near impossible to get any sort of legitimate candidate in an office.
>>677136269
Im a conservative journalist
>>677136298
You can vote at 18, there are more younger people than old people. Your argument is invalid. If you cant get off your ass and vote, you deserve what happens
>>677136024
nice red herring, donkey-raping shit eater
>>677136380
basically i read that "Im an autist"
>>677135867
>Thats their fault if they chose retarded people.
It is their fault, but because we're all interconnected, if Alabama gets run into the ground by shitty management, places other than Alabama will be effected by that loss of revenue. Unless all states can be trusted to effectively manage themselves, the Federal government is absolutely right to hold onto the reigns. There are entire states I dislike, but I don't want ANY of them to fail, because them failing hurts the country I live in.
>>677136269
Trump knows what to say? I'm sorry do you not pay attention to anything that fucking idiot says here lemme reiterate 90% of his answers.
>Yeah I have plans
>I also know people
>Those people also have plans
>Make murica great again
>Build a wall
>Openly identify Muslims
>>677136713
Yes because we are intertwined at the moment. Is germany extremely effected by the situation in greece? Same thing m8
>>677136713
>It is their fault, but because we're all interconnected, if Alabama gets run into the ground by shitty management, places other than Alabama will be effected by that loss of revenue.
ok, following that line of thought, every house should be its own country.
>>677136380
Are you anybody we'd know?
>>677137043
Haha no. Small publication
>>677128361
>What does Trump even stand for?
Trump stands for Trump. end of story.
>>677136521
Easier said than done. Half of your 18-45 year olds have real jobs and can't make it to proper polling places due to the horrible hours. I missed Indiana elections because polls literally open during my work hours. Couldn't make it before or after. Got a solution to that?
>>677137094
Which one? I'm always keen for a good read
>>677136714
Yes, he can talk without saying anything at all. Have you ever actually watched one of his full interviews or do you just browse around /b/ for your fill of trump memes?
He's surprisingly genuine on a lot of points, but the problem is that he can't give any specifics, that would be counter productive when you're looking for a majority support.
The fact that he doesn't really appear that radical is why he is doing so well as apposed to Bernie who is flat out all in SJW, or the criminal with tits
>>677136380
>Im a conservative journalist
>>677137094
>Haha no. Small publication
every poorly educated conservative faggot with an iPhone and a blog calls herself a "journalist" now
>>677137289
Maybe later. Its in illinois
>>677130697
STFU SHILL he isn't a politician you dumb fucking cuck
>>677136269
You say all of this as if you think you have a point. Or relevancy.
>Stupidest shit I've read all week.
>>677137461
Oh, it's an actual ink and paper type deal?
>>677128361
he's trying to come off as opposed to corporate cronyism and illegal immigration
but based on his origins his term will see more corporate protection laws passed than all other presidents combined and the anti-immigration thing will be just a cover for making it impossible for start up companies to afford payroll
sad thing is he's still a better option than sanders or clinton
>>677131930
Why would he want to help the poor/middle class? He has no reason to.
Even if he did want to help, why now? Suddenly one day he decided it was time to help the world? That's horseshit.
>>677128361
>why do people still vote for him?
basically because his racist rhetoric kind of resonates with his followers. there is no real content other than hating on non-whites. but hey, whatever it takes to get his followers riled up i guess...
>>677137571
>scientific explanations are just things scientists use to try to explain things when they don't know what they're talking about
You might as well have said that, because it sounded just as retarded.
>>677137180
You realize there are laws to protect you right? So i would say you need to petition your state to make laws like these
http://www.findlaw.com/voting-rights-law.html
>>677137315
Unfortunately I've seen almost all of the debates involving his 'genuine points'. The problem here is the fact he is generalizing to gain a majority interest just means that his voter base has no fucking clue what he's going to do. Please tell me what his plans are so I can properly understand his insanity. At least Bernie has a legitimate plan. Conservacucks just hear the words tax reallocation and piss their panties.
>>677137636
Yes. they are still around
>>677136922
The stability of the economy is strengthened by out interconnectedness, not weakened. An individual country in the EU can go to shit and no other country wants to be the one to help them because if they don't, maybe someone else will do it. In the meantime, the economy of the entire continent is hurt. All countries must agree on anything to be enforced in all countries, and so virtually nothing of significance ever gets ratified. That's what you want for the US? You want a natural disaster on the East Coast to be an East Coast problem? Because the only way shit gets rebuilt is with disaster relief funds, and that comes from Federal taxes enforced by Federal law. Other states would be happy in the short run to not have to pay for disaster relief in another state, but in the long run the economies of all states are hindered by leaving any one region in dire need of reconstruction.
>>677137779
Then why are so many non-whites all fired up for him?
Literally no one knows. Evrything hes ever said he has either contradicted or backpedaled on
>>677136997
I think you followed that line of thought in wrong direction.
>>677137872
Sounds like if you are in a naturalnatural disaster zone, youd save for emergencies. But no we should spend that money on another park that junkies will use
>>677137817
Indiana is so terrible right now. They can't even pass a law that Hoosiers actually want let alone give a fuck about the younger populace and voters rights. You seen the shit Mike Pence is pulling here lately?
>>677137865
Oh. Tbh at first blush i was hoping you might be milo
>>677137995
this
He has a 1% "truth rate" on politifact.
>>677137837
>Bernie has a legitimate plan
Yes Bernie has plans, but all of his plans base from only one position of taking money from the rich.
His only solution is to throw money at problems hoping they will go away, and how do you know Bernie will actually follow through with his plans? At the end of the day nobody knows what politicians do, just look at Obama for fuck sakes. He is a democrat and yet is basically a republican, he hasn't fulfilled hardly any of his campaign promises and has been in for 8 years now
Maybe you can enlighten us on how you know Bernie is more reliable than Trump?
>>677137872
those are some nice titties
>>677128361
>"Gertrude Graham" aka Shillary
You keep posting these threads everyday, pretending to be from another country. The fact is that no one in any country gives a fuck about the politics in any other country. That's a fact and just plain old common sense that apparently escapes some morons here on /b before they reply to these type of threads.
The threads always start out with some, "I'm eurofag, so . . .". I've been on these boards for over a decade now and NO threads ever start this way, with the exception of hate-bashing threads. That's your first hint that this is Shillary again. Second hint: the op claims to not know anything and seeks an answer to his question, yet apparently people miss that HE HAS A FUCKING CONCLUSORY OPINION ALREADY (here: "Trump and how bad he is"). No one tells you their conclusory opinion up front, then claims complete ignorance on the topic, then solicits your advice and informative input in real life. Get a clue, dumbfucks.
Hint 3: these threads are ALWAYS anti-trump. Now I'm not pro-Trump nor against him per se, but I've been here long enough to know that when 50 threads a day start popping up during election season and they are all anti-whomever, it is a propaganda machine from an election opponent who plants paid shills on a board to further false information and pretend public opinion is one way or another. Anecdotal bullshit aside in these threads from the anti-whomevers, you feed the troll by responding.
>inb4 but you're responding
yeah, but I thought some of you might want a shred of common sense
you arguing with a paid shill thinking he cares or that you might even change his mind is a complete waste of time
don't feed the trolls, kids
>>677137837
If by plan you mean ask the rich people nicely for their money, as if they don't have offshore Swedish bank accounts ready for the next presidential election.
Do you Bernie supporters actually think people with billions of dollars are standing by like "Sure mr president, here is an additional 20% of our money we've been cheating other people out of for decades"
>>677128361
Trump is hated because he's a jerk. That's pretty much the extent of it. His policies however are actually really reasonable. He's not dumb like people say, the man is incredibly intelligent, brilliant even.
>>677131870
Raising minimum wage could fuck up several places. You can't raise minimum wage without damaging buisnesses. It's not how it wors, just look at San Francisco. They are firing people left and right because of the talk of 15$ minimum wages. Prepare for automated systems...
>>677138155
No i havent. Im dealing with my own states (illinois) bullshit. What is he trying to pull, also absentee ballots
>>677138118
The fuck are you talking about? Are you an 80 year old man bitching about public parks now? Fucking die already. You're holding back the progress of the nation.
>>677128361
Why do you care? Stop being so obsessed with Americans.
>>677138391
What policies? Quite seriously, I'm very curious which one's you find brilliant since outside THEWALL they're mostly just vague allusions.
>>677138510
The above post mentioned that a natural disaster could fuck up a states only country. I was just making the point that if you live in an area with natural disasters, you should probably save tax money for emergencies, instead of spending it frivolously
>>677130117
The wall isnt silly it is a must its so easy to get into this country its a joke. And the media (and trump sadly) make it about mexicans when it should be about the thousands of other people from around the world coming into this cont from the border.
>>677129869
How does it affect you?
>>677138638
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
>>677138391
> intelligent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXUhcVWOyuI
>>677138201
Bernie may want to increase top level taxes to 33% but that's not the only revenue he's looking to create. We spend more money on our military than the next two countries combined but yet none of that goes to our troops or veterans. We pay up to 4k a year for corporate subsidies but conservatives bitch about the 400 bucks they throw into welfare. Fuck man an extra 40 bucks a year from the 300 million+ Americans could help fund cheaper higher education. It's sad how little people know about where there tax money really goes. I mean does congress really need 100k+/yr for a publicly elected position? The answer is fuck no. Citizens United? That needs to go. Tell me how Trump is more reliable. Please.
>>677129869
>>677138201
in one thing youre right, at the end politicians do whatever they want. Though if you think about it, Bernie has a history of supporting his ideas, you can see him expressing them thorughout the years. Trump on the other hand, changes his speech day by day. Most of his arguments are not even arguments he constantly says, ill figure it out, or says I'm having a great time, etc etc. As stated before you are right, all polittians lie, but at leats theres more evidence of bernies stability, than trumps.
>>677128361
Donald dumb is basicly a nwo troll that will get the usa the first female president
Even do we on the internet have all learned not to feed the troll cause it will only make him stronger people in real life dont understand this and fed him
Hes now doing massive trolling claiming to deport all mexicans and reverse engineer the bulshit equal rights for bitches bug that has effected the west
>>677138948
>taxpayers who want their government to spent their hard earned money towards their own interests
What a fucking novel concept? You mean invest in our citizens instead of bombing Brown people and overpaying the "elite"?
>>677137779
The irony is palpable
People are voting for Trump because dumbshits like you are too lazy to actually watch a real interview given by an unbiased source. The only arguments I ever see presented against trump are:
>He's racist
>He hates women
>OMG HE WANTS TO BUILD A WALL LAUGH AT HIM (Because walls of course never work and have no real purpose)
>He has fhanny hair!
Or the ever popular (and cringey) drumpf meme
>>677138372
>Offshore Swedish bank accounts
That's exactly the kind of illegal activity Sanders is attempting to push out into the open. Are you trying to tell me you support that kind of activity to begin with?
>>677137872
>1432859798569.jpg
goddman I want to make the sex on her!
>>677138874
>https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
>literally only 6 policies
>>677138826
you do know that there is already a wall right? And where not there is thousands of miles of desert, and that my friend hasn't stop a thing, a bigger wall would just be a waste of time and money.
>>677139204
Keep in mind that even do he trolls the actual protesters are doing all the violence while they could easily just not vote for him
>>8342174
trumper
>>677137808
you obviously replied to the wrong post. or more 4chan tomfoolery today or you are severely retarded
>>677139442
This guy gets it. Not to mention that if we build a 30 foot wall through the desert all that will happen is people buying 31 foot ladders
>>677139442
We got to show dem dam chineez do..
>>677138986
Yes and that's also a double edged sword considering he was enthusiastically explaining how he was going to close the mythical wage gap.
Ready for that tax increase only for white men?
Strawmen aside you're looking at this from a politician's perspective, Trump is a businessman. He sees this election, and likely everything else as a business deal, which isn't a bad way to go about it. When you're making a deal never let the opponent know what you want because they will do whatever it takes to deny you of it. And NEVER say more than what is necessary, this is why he comes off as not knowing anything.
Don't you guys see that he doesn't actually give specifics on purpose? While the other candidates are telling you specifically what they are going to do it alienates everyone who disagrees, but Trump not giving specifics gives the air of mystery which in turn makes him seem more moderate
>>677139618
Produce ladders with a maximum of 2p meters to stop even the most acrobatic ones of al mexicans
BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK
>>677139231
THEN WHAT ARE HIS FUCKING POLICIES FAGGOT.
>>677139441
>because that matters
Isnt it better to aim low and grow?
>>677138739
Ah. You see, I missed that point because it is so profoundly stupid.
The opportunity cost for saving up billions of dollars for a disaster which may or may not happen is enormous. You have to spend money to make money, and all states, and all countries, really are about making money. What's more, some states are just more disaster-prone than others. That means that in the long run, states that see few disasters end up paying for states that see more. Seems like a raw deal, no? But they are buying something for that money. What they are buying is a country that takes full advantage of its territory, instead of only those areas that offer the lowest risk of disaster. It is a cost of keeping the country firing on all cylinders, and it's an extremely good investment.
Try to imagine what the US would look like if whenever there was a natural disaster, we just didn't rebuild and those people moved to less disaster-prone areas. So much opportunity for productive action would be lost, production which in the long run, far exceeds the costs of reconstruction.
>>677139473
>the protestors are doing all the violence
This is just not true, they are certainly responsible for some, but the vast majority is caused by Trump supporters
>>677128361
It doesn't stand for anything. It's a dudes last name ya dip
>>677137914
Can somebody please explain this to me? All i read is shrieks of RACIST RACIST RACIST and within a few clicks I'm swamped with "ethnics for trump" pieces. What the hell am i meant to believe?
>>677139293
No, i'm telling you Sanders can't do shit about it.
You think congress is going to be passing his bill when they are likely being directly funded by the rich people who the bill will affect? Sure, he will probably try and pass a bill but it will never get through.
Solid effort trying to put words into my mouth though
>>677137872
dude, you make a good argument, at least i think, but man, i sure like those titties, im having a hard time trying to read your shit
>>677128361
Trump stands for america
>>677139600
You seem to be posting words as if you're trying to convey a message or something.
>>677139853
The police is a corperation designed to let you know you can end up in prisson
And to keep the prissons filled
To protect the goverment against its citizen
And to keep order
>>677129067
Yup. Here Bernie is bullied by BLM
>>677139947
Sanders starts from an very liberal position, if they feel threatened they will compromise down to some moderate liberal reforms
>>677139947
Well seeing as 80% of Congress is up for reelection next term that problem could easily be solved.
>the united caliphate
>>677140220
And what are you basing this claim off of?
>>677140184
Allowing someone else to speak, and showing interest in their point of view is not being bullied you massive faggot.
>>677140378
All politics ever?
>>677140308
Unless they are changing 80% of human nature too I don't see how this is relevant
>>677139905
Again you are discounting the charity of other states or deals that could be made. Florida has hurricanes, they talk with kentucky to have a shared disaster relief fund, this way florida has extea money, and kentucky can get trades at a lower price. We can also collect funds at the federal level like the euro zone does for its countries.
>>677140126
That has literally nothing to do with my question. Please go drink some bleach and try again.
>>677140462
What makes you think (Assuming that bernie will do jack shit of course) that they will accept any compromise?
This implies they will feel threatened by the same guy who gets his podium stolen from him by angry shebons.
This is all speculative and I could use the exact same points for Trump
>>677139748
So then you're basically telling me that you want a president that you have no idea, absolutely 0 idea of what he will do? but why?
>>677139748
You cannot sell a product without telling the consumers what that product is.
It's not a clever or interesting business like tactic. It's a way of remaining non-committal so you can pretend you were right all along later down the line.
>>677133600
I will bet 100 bucks you can't cite a single thing you just said and prove it to be true. Prove me wrong or stop repeating what your brainwashed ass has been told by the daily show. You fucking sheep. All you have is opinion and it isn't even yours. Faggot.
>>677128361
Another good use for donald would be for congress to refuse to work with this president and when the public cheers for them 2 things can happen donalds hilbillies and agresive donald dumb haters might kill eachother starting a new civil war
Or congress enlarges its power by basicly being able to say fuck the president fuck the choice of the people congress picks the president
>>677139442
Theres not a wall theres a fence and i think maybe you should google the distance between nogales arizona and nogales mexico
>>677140467
Easily relevant. Replacing the Republican majority in Congress is first of all a step in the right direction. Second of all by kicking out older chairs and replacing them with new progressive representatives will actually give him a chance to pass beneficial legislation. Government man. It's some shit. Not everyone is bought and paid for like the republicunts or Shillary.
>>677140877
>this entire post
fucking lol
>>677139748
I understand what you are saying, but again my argument was towards the legitimacy of both candidates, in my opinion having a candidate that you have no idea where he stands or what intentions he has is terrifying. Especially if he is a buisness man
wow britfag youre like 2 months behind.
trump is basically the laughing stock of murica. his ratings are falling, hes saying crazier and crazier shit, the only demographic that will remotly vote for him are white males.
the trump thing is done. welcome your new and glorious president Hillary Rodham Clinton.
>>677140666
Are you implying you know what any presidential candidate will do? That sounds pretty disingenuous considering Bernie Sanders is under no obligation to fulfill his promises either.
It is simply my opinion that we need a politician with more of a business sense to fix our economic problems, but I suppose that's just my out of touch conservative side acting up again.
Also, I hate these damn captchas
>>677140819
Not congress, the electoral college. Andy they've already pretty much said that neither Trump nor Sanders will get elected if they run.
>>677140658
I never said they would necessarily feel threatened, but they will if Sanders movement keeps growing
>>677140666
Trips. checked satan
>>677140768
>You cannot sell a product without telling the consumers what that product is.
You can if you pass a law requiring people to buy it.
>Obamacare
>we have to pass it to find out what's in it
Fuck Democrats.
>>677139748
>Don't you guys see that he doesn't actually give specifics on purpose?
>I'm voting for a candidate who I have no idea what policies he will implement
>>677141053
Yes, we know what Bernie Sanders would attempt to do in office. He has stood by the same values for 30 years
>>677139906
Either way both r ridiclousely stupid donald has the right to use his freedom of speech protesters have the right to protest and suporters have the right to suport none of them has the right to do anny violence
Violation is not violence faggots
Meanwhile all this discusion about this faggot brings his trolling to massive heights
Donald trumb is currently the worlds biggest most succesfull troll
>>677128361
surely you faggots have access to Google, but just in case, here you go:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/issues/
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/
>>677140474
Without federal enforcement, states not prone to disaster would have no immediate reason to enter into a relief fund agreement with disaster-prone states. But for the sake of the country as a whole, they need to. This is why federal enforcement is needed; because individual states seldom concern themselves with the health of the nation. States look out for states. But what's best for individual states may not be what's best for the country. If our ultimate goal is a healthy and thriving NATIONAL economy, then individual states need to be forced to play nicely and pay for each another's disaster recovery.
>>677141013
>>677140768
It isn't as if I think Trump is the best possible solution, I simply think he is the best turd in the pile.
When the other candidates are a criminal and someone who thinks the wage gap is a legitimate concern that should be a red flag into the policies of the opposing points of view.
At the very least can you explain why you think Bernie should get into office knowing all the crazy shit he has been saying? Both candidates are insane, but i'll gladly take the dumbshit with business sense over the SJW chasing imaginary problems
>>677141611
Specifics? I don't know any values he's stood by except for being against the Iraq war.
And to be honest I don't know if staying behind the same values for 30 years is a good thing, is it not rational to have changed your point of view over time?
>>677128780
>>>677128361 (OP)
>Well here in Britain you will only ever hear bad stuff about people who dont follow the leftist PC agenda
Wow, that is some truly brainless shit right here.
Leftist?
This homo love affair you betas have with the far right speaks volume about your masculinity and confidence.
Trump is a business man and his only desire to be president is to further his own wealth. No mega capitalist like him will give two shots about the people under him. Look at how he runs his companies.
There will always be an army, because there will always be simpletons who have a desire for glory.
>>677140774
not same anon, but ill try:
1- china, china china china mexico, china china
2- no fucking idea
3- Trump vs McCain, for being captured.
4- Buissness seems to be his thing, politics, probably not so much, besides this is his first election or attempt to become a politician, or not?
etc.
>>677141684
What crazy shit has Bernie said? I disagree with the wage gap stuff but that is certainly not important enough to decide my vote
>>677128361
>What does Trump even stand for?
Ban all Muslims.
make the ones that are here wear a special symbol while out in public.
Send all Mexicans packing.
Nope, not a racist at all according to his dumbfuck followers.
>>677141684
U seem to share my opinion quite well since in not an american what is this hilary about except for being the first usa female pressident wich seems reason enough to be selected afther obama
>>677141666
Easy satan. You totally ignored my idea about incentives. One state can incentivise another state and so on. Also we can have a loan service implemented by the federal government, with low interest. You are stuck in the idea that we NEED a federal body. We dont.
>>677139435
I want to do this chick
>>677141053
I just answred this question like 5 min ago, And yeah, I hate these captchas also. My vote is for whoever can get rid of them
>>677141204
Not the same thing, Obama campaigned on health care reform, he laid out a general plan, he told the public about that product and they bought it.
He gave more than empty assurances, Trump is not and therefore he won't win.
>>677142068
>Ban all Muslims.
>make the ones that are here wear a special symbol while out in public.
>Send all Mexicans packing.
all lies you faggot
>>677141929
Hes been against money in politics
Hes been in favor of universal health care
Hes been in favor of raising the minimum wage
Hes been against free trade deals
Hes been pro union
Hes been moderate on gun control, reasonable restrictions without taking away people guns
he doesnt like muslims
>>677141638
An illegal protest (like blocking roads and in a rented space designated for other purposes) usally ends in violence l. As do contested conventions. Do your history everything thats happening has happend before but its 2016 so apparently human nature doesnt apply anymore
>>677140095
I see. you are severely retarded.
>I'll root for you in the "Olympics" Corky.
>>677142052
The worst part about these threads is needing to say the same shit over and over again, and it always ends the same way.
>Considers himself a feminist
>Vows to close the wage gap
>Takes pride in being called an honorary woman
>Mic stolen from him during a speech by blacklivesmatter advocates and his response it to meekly look down and walks off
>Agrees with blacklives matter positions and even uses a quote saying that white people don't know what it's like to be poor or live in the ghetto
A lot of people like to pass this off as a quote taken from him when it actually isn't quoted, he is in agreement from a position.
>He believes that everyone to an extent believes in god
These are just a handful of things
>>677139748
>Ready for that tax increase only for white men?
It has been talked about by many politicians, and for good reason. The income level for whites vs other races is just too disproportionate. Also, there's that reparations thing too, so it could serve a dual purpose.
>>677128361
He stands for the god-given right of men with small hands to wear appropriately sized gloves, or not, according to their will.
>>677142068
Muslims is not a race they can simply turn themself into ameriguns and becum christians amirite.jpg ?
Mexicans are a racce but hurr durr they not a religion so w/e totaly not racist at al
You know letting arabs wear special sign isnt racist its more like cool dude its like police man and fire men theyl be happy
>>677142496
3/10
>>677140435
except that's not what happened
>>677142301
Yeah, that's why there are video clips of him saying this shit.... I guess it wasn't really him, but a drumpf impersonator am i right?
>>677135566
Then move to another state. I don't like the midwest so I don't live. I don't go to muslim countries and try to force them to believe how I want. America is too big and too diverse for homogenous ideologies. Which is why we need different states with different laws.
>>677142174
Well it's a moot point, because your childish concept of a toothless federal government and how great it would work is never, ever going to happen.
But anytime a new problem is in the news, feel free to tell everyone how it could all be solved by doing away with Federal laws, and how everything would be fixed if more people would just listen to you. It'll really make you sound smart.
>>677131870
>>>677131706
>Non-intervention in foreign states, raising the minimum wage, expelling illegals, and creating jobs.
Non intervention - Trump has already said he'd bomb the hell out of anyone that even verbally opposes the US.
Raising the minimum wage - his badly run businesses are full of under paid white collar workers, so he's never gonna do that.
Creating jobs - as in money making ventures for him and his friends that use cheap as possible labour, what a fucking white Knight.
If you people had brains, you'd be dangerous.
Expelling illegals - the Mexican/ American migrational relationship is tied into every part of the white collar economy. Good luck getting cheap food to fill your fat faces if migration is halted.
>>677128361
im from wales uk, trump seems pretty cool, people with nothing better to do call him a nazi, racis, but he just wants to keep out illegal immagrants, (from ever country) not just mehiho and mudland folk , wall is pretty badass idea, keeps them out, pope is behind a wall in his little country,
only other choice is a female
>>677141684
I'm no Bernie supporter but saying "we want to try a different style of government spending that works very well in other parts of the west" is hardly as crazy as saying "I want to pass unenforceable, discriminatory laws that undermine the founding principles of this country"
>>677131032
Before or after having the white house burned down by a bunch of Canadians?
>>677142416
I didnt say this isnt repeating history actualy i belive this is all happening exactly as planned...
Im saying both sides r doing a shity job
http://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-explains-why-a-european-financial-transaction-tax-wont-work-2011-9
http://www.headlinepolitics.com/denmark-tells-bernie-sanders-stop-lying-country/
>>677140863
bruh, theres a reason they built a "fence" and not a wall, it was way cheaper, now imagine a concrete wall.
>>677137995
You mean like Shillary?
>>677142773
It is ok m8, i know you are superior to me because you NEED the federal government.
>>677128361
There is nothing not one issue this doe film - ONE: immigration. If we don't get a handle the on that, pronto, nothing else matters. Pretty simple, no?
>>677143099
Ugh, your wife-slash-sister has the worst case of butterface I've ever seen.
ALSO
9\11 TRUTH
>>677142496
Here is your reply
>>677142885
Personally I believe all the ban mexicans and muslims shit are just pandering to rednecks in the south who have legitimate concerns about border jumpers.
I mean does anyone here legitimately think he is going to start shipping Muslims and Mexicans out of the country?
>>677143234
>generic redneck joke
How very original of you ;)
>>677131881
who gives a shit if they are cool or how they look. I'd vote for a quadriplegic land whale neckbeard is he would run te country better than anyone else ever has.
>>677128361
Trump is literally confirmed pedophile.
>pic related: Trump molesting child on gay porn movie set
>>677140774
>>677142000
Did, i earn my 100 bucks??
Is this thread nothing but Bernie supporters who are pissed that the nomination is being given to an evil lying cunt so they are attacking supporters of the other outsider in this campaign?
>>677142868
>>>677128361 (OP)
>im from wales uk, trump seems pretty cool, people with nothing better to do call him a nazi, racis, but he just wants to keep out illegal immagrants, (from ever country) not just mehiho and mudland folk , wall is pretty badass idea, keeps them out, pope is behind a wall in his little country,
>only other choice is a female
Being from the politically weakest part of the UK is Female. Wales is a cuck to the cocktail of England. You know it's true.
>>677143352
There's no way you're claiming that thing has an attractive face. Nobody sober can possibly think that.
>>677143407
/b/ has been flooded with ledditors and tumblr feminists for a while, why do you think there have been so many cuck threads the past year?
>>677129869
> not even knowing the difference between policy and politics
> being smart about politics
voting is for adults, please fuck off
>>677142824
>Trump has already said he'd bomb the hell out of anyone that even verbally opposes the US.
You mean ISIS, retard. Meanwhile opposes intervention in Syria/Afghanistan/Libya/Iraq
>so he's never gonna do that
Good
>badly run businesses
lol
>as in money making ventures for him
That's typically how jobs are created, fucktard.
> that use cheap as possible labour
You're right, he should use expensive labor. That makes perfect sense.
>Good luck getting cheap
So first you act as if raising the min. wage is a good thing, then you insult Trump for using cheap labor, then defend illegals because they provide cheap labor and therefore cheaper products. So which is it, are you for minimum wage hikes or against it?
>>677138289
Stop projecting, the world is always watching USA because if we get a megalomaniac or a crook or a collectivist as the commander in chief we have to be prepared for either warheads, recessions or extortion.
Greetings from Norway.
>>677143100
No, it's not that simple. Building a wall will cost a ton of money (Mexico won't pay for it) and it won't even significantly slow illegal immigration. We spend billions building and maintaining the wall, meanwhile Jose buys a 20$ ladder and climbs over the wall
>>677142571
What the hell did i just read?
For the last 30 years Trump has been an icon of sleaze, corruption, and failed businesses. He holds the current world record for most number of bankrupt companies. Today he stands for being a crass, ignorant retard who is supported exclusively by idiots who don't follow the news and don't understand why he would be as bad for America as he has been for his own companies.
>>677143591
>implying politics doesn't affect policy
>>677128780
Have you even read a newspaper lately. It's all just right wing fearmongering. To me it seems like everything lately has been tailored to you pussy shits to afraid to come out and face the world.
>>677142975
Bruh, whats the cost of making our country safer? And when it was just mexicans coming over it wasnt that big of a problem. But now anyone can because they realized how shitty our defences our. I honestly fear for what coming because there is no way isis or some other group isnt already set up and planning shit.
>>677128361
The guy has 10 BILLION dollars. He is not in it for the money. This guy loves The United States. That's how he made his money. He can't be bought. I like his ideas and am a lifetime voter. Let's GO! I can't wait for November to get here. Not an American? Piss off, I don't care what you think. This guy is trying to show you a WAY better future.
>>677137872
please tell me this goddess has done xxx porn and that you have sauce
>>677143531
>being so insecure you worry about looks
How is it being 19 nowadays?
>>677143756
>world record for most number of bankrupt companies
lol
where did you get this information, reddit?
>>677143868
>he can't be bought because he's already been sold
Trump has been selling out his entire life. It's what he does. He would sell you his own family if the price was right. He has no morals.
![5763[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YyjcMVi.jpg "5763[1].jpg")
>>677130078
I love it when he's stumped. He's reduced to being a confused stuttering moron and it makes me laugh.
So def voting for him. I want four years of him being desperate and desperately incompetent with a million cameras trailing his every failure :D
>>677143904
mind = blown
>>677143998
Reality. Google it. Trump companies have declared bankruptcy five times. More than anyone else. Trump casinos have declared bankruptcy twice. How do you lose money with a casino? It's literally impossible but Trump did it.
>>677144136
>:D
fuck off reddit
>>677143655
Welcom to 4chan faggit
>>677143826
But then again, many of them do not travel on land, a giant wall would make so little difference but cost a hell lot more.
What are the odds Trump makes it through his first term without getting assassinated or impeached? I'd put at ~50%
>>677144213
Google = truth
>>677144213
>How do you lose money with a casino
Probably because the entirety of Atlanta was in the shitter. You'd know that if you weren't a tard.
>>677144384
It would make a difference of 40%
>>677143868
I'm pretty sure that is he could, he would sell the US for more money. I dont understand how can you imagine a buissnesman as a hero.
>>677144432
pretty much, yeah. As long as you find a good source
>>677144213
5 chapter 11 bankruptcies, out of 500+ companies...
>>677143756
This is why it's hilarious when people with no understanding of business try to criticize him
When you go bankrupt you suffer a huge penalty to your credit and are absolved of debt, don't you morons see it's a way for him to make even more money off his corporations after siphoning out everything they are worth?
It isn't even that difficult of a concept and still it's used in arguments for some reason, the funny part is that the fact he has done this and has made money off it actually makes him look even better
>>677144213
By the economy slowing and people not attending? Fucking retard. And 5 companys making it that far is a greater feat then you will ever complete.
>>677144553
m-muh evil businessmen :((
>>677143596
>>>677142824 (You)
>>Trump has already said he'd bomb the hell out of anyone that even verbally opposes the US.
>You mean ISIS, retard. Meanwhile opposes intervention in Syria/Afghanistan/Libya/Iraq
>>so he's never gonna do that
>Good
>>badly run businesses
>lol
>>as in money making ventures for him
>That's typically how jobs are created, fucktard.
>> that use cheap as possible labour
>You're right, he should use expensive labor. That makes perfect sense.
>>Good luck getting cheap
>So first you act as if raising the min. wage is a good thing, then you insult Trump for using cheap labor, then defend illegals because they provide cheap labor and therefore cheaper products. So which is it, are you for minimum wage hikes or against it?
I'm a national age based minimum wage for all workers. The people who hate the minimum wage are business men like Trump. They want to use cheap labour, exploitative practices.
He's bankrupt businesses through reckless mis-management.
Isis are not confined to one area, one country or even continent. They've appealed to the uneducated, much as Trump has.
"That's how jobs are created" - that's how some jobs are created.
Away and wave your flag, shoot your gun,do whatever makes your tiny brain feel empowered.
Read a newspaper from a different country. Look at both sides.
He'll be worse than Bush and he was a disaster.
>>677144432
Well it links to articles with sources. Did you really not know that Trump has declared bankruptcy multiple times? It's common knowledge among educated people who follow the news.
>>677143985
>>being so insecure you worry about looks
This is what ugly as fuck people say.
Mole people, who are forced to mate with other mole people.
"We don't worry about looks," they tell each other, as their fat rolls, shiny with sweat and grease, slap against one another other. "We don't worry because we aren't insecure."
"Yes, being attractive is really awful. We are so lucky to look this way instead."
>>677144520
I'm pretty sure those 40% will find different ways, (e.g., tunnels, boats, etc)
>>677128361
rotten teeth britfag
>>677144553
And i'm sure Bernie will hand over the keys to the United states to niggers
I can make strawmen too friendo
>>677144384
Wrong the real people we need to keep out all come from mexico.. terriorst are not going to go to cuba to get here
It's MAGA, not MEGA.
He's making memes great again
>>677143868
>>>677128361 (OP)
>The guy has 10 BILLION dollars. He is not in it for the money. This guy loves The United States. That's how he made his money. He can't be bought. I like his ideas and am a lifetime voter. Let's GO! I can't wait for November to get here. Not an American? Piss off, I don't care what you think. This guy is trying to show you a WAY better future.
His wealth is grossly over exaggerated, but all the yeehas don't care, they fall right into his confidence trick.
>>677128361
He's just a funny troll, it doesn't really matter who becomes president and we don't truly control who becomes president either. He only stands for 4 years of lulz and pissed off white cucks, spics, and niggers
>>677144732
>still so upset
Dont worry your waifu will appear soon and she will be amazing. Leave the butterface sex freaks for me, you probably wouldnt like it.
>>677141976
Yeah sure. The 1.6-3.2 million dollars he would gain as potus is really lining his pockets. Presidents don't sign tax breaks for corporations. Sure they have influence but not to the level where his being in office greatly helps his business. Unless of course what he proposes is agreed upon by everyone.
>>677144719
>The people who hate the minimum wage are business men
If by businessmen you mean small business owners who have trouble paying for labor costs because of minimum wage
>He's bankrupt businesses through reckless mis-management.
If by mismanagement you mean the economy going sour and having hundreds of successful companies, providing economic growth for every city he does business in, and employing thousands of people. He has done more for the ordinary person than any one running.
>that's how some jobs are created.
No, that's how all jobs but government jobs are created.
>>677144691
My buisinessmen senpai will save us anon-kun!! =((
![20060509[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Lp0GlqS.jpg "20060509[1].jpg")
>>677144273
When it comes to reddit and 4chan I'm part of the 1%
The 1% that doesn't have a reddit moniker. I just don't see the appeal. ooh lookit my plussis. Is going ups!
Fuck that shit.
And fuck being dumb enough to vote for Trump because he'll be good for the country. He's a fucking idiot and a liar.
And that is why I'm voting for him. Hillary will be trying to just steer the ship straight without caring one way or the other. Bernie will be trying to get more taxes from the rich and rile up the right wing morons who think that means them even tho they earn less than 10k a year.
Trump will be a firework!
Vote Trump. World ... burning.
>>677145032
this!
This is why he refuses to delivar his tax returns.
Financial experts are estimating that he is in dire financial straits, and this is the reason that he is running for president.
He's sank his companies and is a failure, so now he wants to run the nation. This is just too laughable.
>>677128361
The
Real
Ugly
Millionaire
Politican
Advantages
Stupid
Hicks'
Imaginary
Thralldom
>>677144865
kek
>>677128361
He doesn't have any real views besides money. Watch his debates. He has literally never given one single actual answer to a question. Just, "I'll tell you how we'll do it. We'll build a wall, make Mexico pay for it, then deport them all." "Mr. Trump, how will you make Mexico pay for a wall?" "We'll make them pay for it." "How will you afford to deport all those people?" "It'll pay for itself."
>>677145032
Let's hear your completely unbiased representation of the whole of Trump's wealth from the huffington post if you're so confident that DONALD FUCKING TRUMP isn't as rich as people are claiming.
I mean holy shit let's just take a moment to realize how retarded this is. You are literally saying that Donald Trump. THE Donald Trump doesn't have as much wealth as people think. Next thing you know we will be hearing about how the amount of chicken served at KFC is over exaggerated
wtf
>>677145297
>He's sank his companies
lol
>>677145297
b-b-but he don't take kindly to dem der brown people, so i'm a gonna vote for him.
>>677145336
samefag. doubles get also
>>677130141
There are no reasons to allow a second coming of Hitler. None. Bern can't do numbers and Hilary is a fucking retard, but both of those beat out Hitler.
>>677145632
look another redditor
>>677145297
Oh definitely, that's the reason why he doesn't want people to see his tax returns, i'm sure that's it. All of his wealth dissipated over night and he is a complete failure unlike Bernie Sanders or Hilary Clinton.
This is of course the only logical explanation
>>677145103
My wife is a young, skinny, sexy, big-titted, asian, doctor, sex freak that was a virgin when I met her.
My wife is so amazing that I can describe her in perfect honesty, and the ONLY reaction I ever get is people angrily doubting a girl so good exists and that I'm married to her.
Have fun with your mole-girl.
>>677145632
Explain
>>677143904
fuck no, not possible
>>677145632
How exactly is Trump like Hitler?
>>677144906
Yeah, because the terrorirsts of 9/11 drove their plane from mexico and jumped the wall with the boeing. The boston shooters came from Mexico also, god dammit, osaba came from mexico too, The iceberg that sunk the titanic im pretty sure was from mexico.
>>677145767
>my wife
>asian
>virgin
>on 4chan
Yeah i believe that
>>677145534
>wants to enforce immigration laws
> racist
I fucking hate cleftest faggots like you
>>677130558
Are you stupid? Literally all republicans are about is making money off the idiots that vote for them.
Source: Entire family are rich republicans that are involved with the party. My dad was one of the 100 largest contributors to Romney's campaign.
Idiots like you are who they target.
>>677144890
wait what? Obama?
>>677145769
"you're a white male!"
you wouldn't get it
>>677145942
>anecdotal evidence
Huehuehue
>>677146007
