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Will Hillary be indicted?
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>>676172522
I really, really, really, really, really, really, really hope so.
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>>676172522
Nope. There's no reason for it either.
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>>676172522
Get rekt, Trumpfag.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/03/21/law-professor-explains-why-hillary-clinton-wont/209438
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>>676172522
You cannot arrest a sitting president.
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>>676173637
but you can impeach one
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>>676173814
Only for something they do as president, not before.
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She`s gonna be eliminated , same as ted cruz
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0% chance, tho she does deserve prison time for Benghazi and passing classified info
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>>676174022
checked
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>>676173486
k
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>>676172908
People like you legitimately scare me. Even if you're a troll, I know people like you actually exist.
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>>676172522
No. When the FBI indictment comes, some former "aide" in her department will take the fall.
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There are a thousand things she should be in prison for.
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>>676173486
>media matters
jesus
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>>676175783
>People like you legitimately scare me. Even if you're a troll, I know people like you actually exist.

My exact feeling about people who want Trump to have control of nuclear weapons
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>>676173486
media matters is Soros leftist hackery, most of the shit they make up is half truths.
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>>676172522
Not a chance. You'd need an honest DOJ for that to happen.
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>>676176178

Tell me what Trump has done vs what Clinton has?

It's a mass media hysteria to paint him as though he's worse for talking versus actions Hillary has already taken.
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>>676176247
http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2012/02/20/the-real-george-soros-an-evil-despicable-excuse-for-a-human-being-no-wonder-the-libs-love-the-pos/
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>people call Hilary a criminal
>literally can't point out one illegal thing she has done
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>>676176288
I don't support either Hillary or Clinton.

Hillary has a track record, if you still support her then fuck you, you're hopeless.

Donald Trump doesn't have a political record, he's just another selfish spoiled rich, terrorized and destroyed hundreds of small contractors and companies in NYC in the 80s, worked with the mafia, he's a dirty as they come and now he's a self-absorbed, buffoonish type character. I'm sure you love his racism, 3edgy shit but there's no way in the world you can convince me he should be president.
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>>676172522

a fucking DUI trial can take half a year to argue before trial. a buddy of mine got a DUI--he didn't tell me but i saw it on his arrest record--and that was in november. his lawyers argued for all sort of shit apparently and the trial is finally happening on may 5.

this could take 10 years.
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>>676172522
If she would be, she'd be immediately pardoned by Obamer.
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>>676176178
>>676176288
Goddammit, this is the problem. I say I don't agree with Hillary, and the go to argument is, "Well Trump is xxx". I'm not on Trump's side, but the fact that he's bad doesn't give Hillary an excuse to be fucking bad, you idiotic fucks.
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>>676176621
>Hillary breaks federal law with personal server
>Her base is not smart enough to know that
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>>676176621
Pretty obvious you're not paying attention to things that matter. The latest wikileaks indicate a serious row of offenses.
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>>676176964
Hillary supporters can't think beyond simple binaries
Example: women good, men bad
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>>676176675
What about Rodham? What do you think about her? Tell me, please. Your opinion matters.
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>>676177145
The problem is, it's the same thing with Trump supporters; as soon as someone bashes Trump, the supporters have to bash Hillary, instead of acknowledge that their candidate is wrong also.
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>>676176675
>I'm sure you love his racism

Where does this now over-used charge of racism come from? How do people arrive at that now worthless claim? Because social justice warriors like you now use it on everyone that disagrees with them.
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>>676177093
Like what bro? Not trolling, seriously. Don't say Shit like that and not give examples
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She schemed a million dollars out of owners of marvel comics I watched the documentary on YouTube. She pretended to be friends and sucked them into her evil world but she really just wanted donation money. After she got what she wanted she ran off.
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>>676177497
Not being a Trump supporter, I can despise them both. This makes me better than Hillary supporters, who are retards.
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>>676176072

David Brock always looks like a twitchy boy hungry pedophile
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>>676176621
>implying you wouldn't be arrested right the fuck away for having secret gubment info on your private server
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>>676177528
>Where is it? I can't see it. I'm honestly looking you guise
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>>676177635
If Hilary scammed a bunch of comic book reading sperglords out of their money that's pretty impressive
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>>676177605
The list of offenses exposed to the world now is lengthy. I don't expect you to look it up, and if I posted it here, you would say TL:DR, because socialist regressive lefties tend to be intellectually lazy, despite all their narcissim.
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>Voting for Hilary

mfw
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>>676172908
You're a fucking idiot.

Firstly, the simple act of setting up a private server is enough to warrant jail time. It is clearly a move to circumvent freedom of information act requests which in and of itself is enough to put you in jail. There are 6 such servers. This is a MINIMUM of thousands of counts of mishandling of government documents, interfering with a federal investigation, and violation of tons of acts like Sarbanes-Oxley that I'm not even sure what they're called because I'm not a lawyer.

Secondly, the guy who setup the server, who was a contractor, did not even have DoD clearance. So, SOMEONE in the organization (her or someone directly under her, which is one of 4 other people) gave him their DoD access to perform the migration. That is fines, jail time, revoking of your clearance, and can no longer hold public office of any kind.

All of this has been ALREADY established WITHOUT the grand jury trial and other people surrounding her have already be indicted for the exact same kind of shit (using their phone/gmail accounts etc) instead of .gov accounts and have publicly stated that she should be put on trial for this and is being treated fairly.

The only foreseeable issue is that it will be fucking sealed in grand jury for 15 years and she'll be dead by then.
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>>676177802
What i see is thousands of racist brown people and white guilt people charging him of racism. But, this charge is used on anyone that disagrees with them. This is not a new tactic. Do you actually have some proof of racism, like racist hiring or paying practices?
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>>676177757
>implying there were any emails on the server that had an official classification
>implying a member of the cabinet has to abide by department-level policies

trump supporters sure know how the world really works, alright
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>>676177802
>>676176675

He would have been sued for actual racist practices, and lost if their was any evidence even remotely close to being factual. There are so many civil liberty unions and labor boards and negro racist groups that would have hammered him if there was actually any racism.

Are you quite sure he's a racist, or are you echoing the lefty mantra?
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>>676173486
That dude is a retard.

That's not even what they're prosecuting her for. They're prosecuting for violations of the Freedom of Information Act and for using the Clinton Foundation as a way to funnel money.

Using her foundation (which may I add has already been investigated because of fraud) she can use her clearance to accept bribes. It would be extremely difficult to do this if you had a .gov account because the .gov account would be on government servers and those are subject to the classification and FIA searches. This is the crux of the case. She has already publicly admitted to guilt.

THE ACT OF SETTING UP THE SERVER MEANS SHE IS GUILTY.
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>>676178356
Oh man, where did that goalpost go? It must have been carefully tucked away somewhere.
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Well she first said she did not want any money and just wanted to be friends. Then out of nowhere she had a letter sent asking for money. They thought she was a nice and honest person so they helped her out in her polictial campaign. Once she got what she wanted she disappeared from their lives. She is a cold hearted liar that will do anything for her end game. It did not really matter though cause marvel went on to become a multi billion dollar company and she blew her money on politic bs.
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...Clinton Family Foundation, which is distinct from the better-known Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation.

HRC will be in Leavenworth before she ever gets back into the White House
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>>676178541
This is a typical intellectually lazy and intellectually dishonest lefty. "I don't know the facts, and I don't want to know the facts". I only want to know the things that support the popular narrative.
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>>676178131
>Sarbanes-Oxley
>a orporate fraud prevention act
are you retarded m8? I notice a lot of republitards like to use incorrect citations.
I guess being moderately intelligent is not for everyone
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>>676178541
You do know that her position is one of like 25 that actually CREATES classified documents right?

A document touching her desk can make it classified. Once it is classified it has to be 'declassified' to be seen by the public w/o being illegal and nothing has to be officially done to it for it to become classified. If it is of a sensitive nature and she touched it, it simply 'is' classified.
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>>676178736
Are you thinking that you're making sense somehow? Do you have a point? Are you a pointless individual that stupidly calls people names, because others call them names?

Are you familiar with in-group and out-group mentality? Yes, I think you are, and cannot think for yourself.
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>>676172522
No, Obama's gonna pull some strings
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>>676179233
The nigress could give a shit. If it is not a working class white guy shooting a nigger thug, she could care less what she does.
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On a side note it's pretty bad when the female candidate has more balls than Bernie Sanders
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40,000 emails about yoga routines?
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>>676178966
It's not sarbanes-oxley, but it's at least those standards. That is what I was implying. Like I fucking said, I'm not a lawyer, I don't know the names of the fucking acts.

I have worked with companies that have to comply with Sarbaines-Oxley though and it's shitloads more stringent that what she did with her server. That requires you to archive all email before it gets to the users inbox in a separate database and archive that information for 7 years. If you handle financial data for other businesses you're required to comply with that act.

Her fund would be required to comply with sarbaines-oxley making it illegal for her to delete the "private" emails and I'm well certain that there are far more stringent requirements than that for a .gov account.

The government contractors I support have to send their emails using TLS, with a digital signature and only from specific computers/phones. They also have to archive for "the length of the contract" which for some can be 30 years.

I'm telling you...fucking jail.

She won't go though. She and Bill have skirted jail like 50 times already.

450 pardons when bill was in office....
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I thought everything she had was perfectly fine, but they retroactively classified it after she got rid of it.
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>>676176178
People like you and Trump supporters both are unsettling as fuck to me.
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>>676180322
No, that's not how it works.

Official governmental documentation created by a high-ranking official (such as Hillary) is more or less automatically classified.
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>>676179233
I don't even think that will be necessary. It's highly likely that it will be a sealed grand jury investigation. Even if the grand jury finds a bunch of shit and the DoJ comes down on some people like Thor's Hammer (which they won't) it's going to play out like this:

Step 1, Recover data: This will take a year or two. She will either be president by now or living on a beach in Brazil.

Step 2, DoJ appoints special council to avoid bullshit: This will take 2-3 years. She's deep into presidency, has enough influence at this point to affect the council and everything goes away.

Step 3, Grand Jury finds some people guilty: Everything is classified! Seal that shit for 10 years. Hillary is dead and gone, everyone forgets. Some underlings go to jail, she pardons someone maybe.
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>>676180534
According to you.
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>>676174022
underrated post

fucking check'd, m8
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>>676173637
>>676173814
>>676173880

This is why I am moving to Russia.
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>>676180779
Enjoy your borderline communism, you won't be missed.
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>>676180322
There is no such thing as "retroactive classification".

If something is classified, it just is. You don't have to like stamp it classified. This is the problem with her in particular. The act of her office touching a document has a tendency to MAKE it classified. She knows that. That is WHY she setup the server. It is a deliberate, premeditated, and successful project designed to circumvent any Freedom of Information Act requests for data that included her name or the names of people in her office so that she could hide data in the Clinton Foundation.

When the government receives a FIA request they are required to respond. When they do a search for "[email protected]" they go "we have no data for you" and that is the response. Because it's all on her server. Normally they would get some data, black out some shit, then send it to the requester. It's so people can make sure she isn't up to some sketchy shit. Like she is all the fucking time.
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>>676174159
You know, I didn't blame Bush when he allowed 9/11 to happen, even with that last report titled "President Bush, Please Put Down the X-Box and Do Something About Osama Bin Laden"
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>>676181270
This. Most clued-in opinion I've read on this in a long time.
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>>676180686
That is actually literally how it works. Certain subjects are automatically classified.

Also, her particular position is one of very, very few positions in the country that is capable of elevating the classification of a document. So, in her case, yes, by touching her desk, shit just gets classified.
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>>676180322
This document outlines when, why and how information has to be classified

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2010-01-05/html/E9-31418.htm

The wikileaks dump contains at least several documents which meet the standards for classification. Therefore, if she created such a document and it wasn't classified, she should have had it classified. Not classifying information which should be classified is reason for jail too.
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I'm just surprised there isn't much hate towards hillary.
All these memes involve Trump or Sanders.
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>>676181597
I know, and she is more abhorrent than either Trump or Sanders.
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>>676181270
Correct
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>>676179887
450 presidential pardons?
Not to get off topic but bill also presided over the "mass incarceration era"
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>>676181579
This as well.

Mishandling of classified documents is jailable. At the very LEAST she should not be allowed to hold public office. Let alone the presidency.

There is potential for literally thousands of incidents of this as well. Not just her but people under her. That entire office should not be allowed to hold public office.
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>>676172522
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>676181910
He also pardoned a lot of his buddies from Arkansas under suspicious circumstances.

The entire Clinton era was like non-stop scandal. Vince Foster anyone? I mean...all that stuff had money exchanging hands and pardons and various other unsundry things.
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>>676178356
>>676178677
The problem here is you think we think racists are all stupid. Just because he's not careless enough to run directly into the legal hurdles doesn't mean anything. He makes blanket statements about Mexicans and Muslims and everyone who isn't blinded by "muh white oppression" can see through his rhetoric as clear as day. The very fact you underestimate us and we don't underestimate you will be your downfall.
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>>676172522
She will be if she becomes (very likely) the D nominee.
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>>676181597
she has never openly expressed any ideas that were counter to the regressive lefty socialist agenda, despite being a massively rich white republican in democrat's stupid costume.
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>>676182293
>The entire Clinton era was like non-stop scandal.

This isn't even hyperbole. You are completely right.

There was a rapist in the oval office the entire time whose wife spearheaded the smearing and intimidation of his victims.
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>>676172522
Of course not. That evil cunt has been selected to be president for the next 8 years.
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>>676182467
>regressive lefty socialist agenda

Moron detected
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>>676182296
dude sounds like a fag but he's got a point.
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>>676173637
That's the silliest thing I've heard in a while.
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>>676176985
>>>676176621
>>Hillary breaks federal law with personal server

OMFG what law. Even the BS congressional comittee hasnt implied that she broke any law. Having your email someplace other than yahoo or gmail isnt illegal, unethical, or even that fucking strange. It amazes me how often people I know insist she needs to go to jail. They can never actually describe the crime even at a high level.

She did NOT use the email for classified information. It is true that some info she had was LATER classified, which also happened to the previous two secretaries of state and is completely normal.

Its OK to just say "I hate her". Thats really fine. You dont need to pretend that email is illegal to dislike her. Just dislike her in a normal rational way that doesnt make you sound like a retard.
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>>676182296
Absolutely spot on.

This thread has restored my faith in /b/'s intelligence.

For now.
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>>676182296
>you underestimate us

Oh I know you're capable of destroying cities and towns.

So, he did not actually do anything racist... he says things that you perceive as racist? Is this it? I'm tellling you the rest of the world is bored with charges of racism. It does not have the punch you think it does anymore. People with money and power are especially bored of it. The majority of Americans are bored with this. We just ask for some evidence of your charges. You can do that right?

What statements did he make that made you butthurt, or your friends butthurt?
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WOW !

Bill and Hillary have "earned" $140,000,000 since 2007.

They must be really good _____?________
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>>676182875
Who is going to arrest the highest person in the army? You?
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>>676182736
This is a popular tactic of the left. "I have no actual arguments, "I will just shout racist or dummy over and over until you shut up."

The rest of the world sees how boring a tactic this is.
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>>676182296
We are talking politics here. You have to dumb it down a little. 9/11!
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That hole U S System is fraud, fake and gay! You trust them, you die!
Saddam Hussein
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>>676182889
>>676182296
the black lives matter people are stupid, and entitled to go marching around in colleges, acting like retards - "muh home". People are getting tired of it, and pulling funding.
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>>676182296
>Just because he's not careless enough to run directly into the legal hurdles doesn't mean anything

yeah, it means a lot actually. It means proof of your silly charges.
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>>676182887
Is she a politician? Then she is a criminal by professions. Just like trump would be too if had been chosen to be the puppet.
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>>676179793

I hope that's not real.
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>>676182467
>Hillary is a secret repub
Coming from a sanders supporter no doubt.
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>>676172522
lol no. she did what they told her to do even if it was highly illegal. the cia wont allow people to go to jail that were just doing what they told her to do. Shit they just let a cartel kingpin go by not allowing evidence to be presented that would have solidified a conviction. Thier reson stated was it was a matter of national security. Apparently its in our best interests to keep the drug trade going strong.
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>>676183266
It CAN be done. I didn't say any of you pussies would. You guys like sucking The State's penis, you think they keep you all safe.
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>>676172522
No. That's just another right wing fever dream like Fast and Spurious, the birth certificate, IRS-gate and BENGHAZI!!!1!!! Will amount to nothing and be forgotten.
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>>676183183
You say it doesn't have the same punch but the fact of the matter is you're attempting to fight me tooth and nail on this because you know it does matter. If fact, I'd go so far as to say xenophobia is his entire platform.

When you are in the public eye, words absolutely do matter so you can stop pretending that saying things that, everyone but you and your stormfront buddies see as racist, don't matter.
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>>676172522

nope :)

stay mad wingnuts
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>>676185319
You toss around the word xenophobic but you can't prove that cause he's actually encouraging LEGAL immigration. You fucks just don't want to admit as such and thats whats killing your smear campaign, you go so extreme with your attacks and can't back any of it up.
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Racism? who cares?

Every weekend Chicago has about "30-50" shootings about 10% die. Niggers killing niggers. No one cares.

Taylor Swift stubs her toe? Big news...breaking news..above the fold...etc
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>>676182875
You actually can't arrest a sitting president in the USA. They have to be impeached first.

>>http://conservativepapers.com/news/2013/05/09/can-a-sitting-president-be-arrested/
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>>676182887
>Being this dumb

Countless LAWS.

Interfering with a Federal investigation.
Mishandling of classified documents.
Fraud.
Violations of the Sarbaines-Oxley Act.
Violations of Acts whose names I am not even aware of because I'm not a lawyer.
Compromising your own security clearance.
Knowingly aiding in the all of the above.

More that I'm also not aware of because I'm not a fucking lawyer.

THE ACT OF SIMPLY SETTING UP THE 6 SERVERS IS A VIOLATION OF THE LAW. THIS ALONE SHOULD AT MINIMUM PREVENT HER FROM EVER HOLDING PUBLIC OFFICE AGAIN.
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>>676186240
Well yea...I don't know how you'd even do that. They could technically pardon themselves if you read them the miranda rights...

It's not like...a game of magic where there's a stack and the pardon resolves after the court case. =P
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>>676185925
Never get an answer on this one.
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>>676176621
>Clinton Foundation being used as a money laundering service
>Secretary of State emails being held on her private server with only basic security.
>Lowering security in Benghazi even though reports were recommending they have more security.
>Committing purgatory and destroying evidence when she was a lawyer defending a man who raped a 12 year old girl.
>Insider trading of cattle futures in arkansas.
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>>676182887
The thing is...she's probably going to end up getting in the most trouble for making the DoJ look bad. That's really what triggered the case. The FIA inquiries that were incorrectly answered as a result of her servers is going to bring the DoJ under scrutiny. If that happens and there is an internal investigation of the DoJ or other large federal organizations as a result of her doing stupid shit they might just throw her under the bus so they don't get investigated. We all know that everyone inside the beltway has skeletons.
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>>676185925
Trump is polling poorly against both Democratic candidates. No one is fooled by his lip service. I can't stop you from choosing to continue to be blind to his bullshit, but the people will decide who is the lesser of the evils come election day.
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>>676187619
>Committed purgatory
lol
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>>676187619
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>>676187913
Your strawman argument about his poor polling numbers does nothing to address the alleged xenophobia and racism you claim.
Again, point to a statement he made. You can't though.
Thats ehy he's going to win. Faggotts like you won't even remember to vote.
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>>676187913
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Nice argument.
Like, are you, serious?
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>>676188325
dumb dumb.
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>>676183183
I'm not the anon you were talking to but you are a fucking moron.

Using deliberately provocative rhetoric, singling out specific races, creeds or religions for universal suspicion/exclusion and saying things that, while not legally hate speech, are sufficiently hateful in intent to rally the KKK to your side is fucking racist.
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>>676188736
Again
Don't address the actual argument at hand, just post a fake quote.
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>>676183429
Why do you keep referencing 'the rest of the world' as if you're their fucking spokesman?

KYS
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>>676188786
But that isn't what happened faggot
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>>676188325
this nigger said protesters should be taken out on stretchers. you know the whole 1st amendment was all about allowing people to protest. without going to jail or getting hurt.
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>>676183429
Kek, tactic of the left to avoid the facts. Fox news puts us all to shame, it really does.
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>>676172522
Yes. She will be elected president, then all of her past will come out. Nasty cunt.
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>>676172522
The cunt needs to be indicted and found guilty of treason and executed as the enemy of the state that liar cunt is.
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>>676172522
she will be next president, and america will be number 1 cuck nation over taking sweden
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>>676189104
The same thing that gives him the right to say that to people being disruptive at one of his functions. Talking anecdotally isn't insighting violence.
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>>676188325
Why should I restate something you've heard before. Every news organization has covered his speeches and pointed out exactly what he said and why is was racist. I'm not going to pretend you're stupid, I know you're just dishonest.
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>>676189028
That's exactly what happened you cretin.
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>>676188864
Not a fake quote buddy. Even Trump is laughing at how fucking stupid you are as you defend him. You are the ultimate cuck.
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>>676189492
so if he becomes president he would be in a position to take away the first amendment. Bush already circumvented the right to not be spied on in our own homes. rebulicans are the only group that that has successfully removed rights from the constitution in the history of the nation. think about that for a minute before you take your daddys opinion as your own.
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>>676172522
I doubt it
Clintons are above the law. Everyone who disagrees ends up committing suicide.
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>>676189993
to be honest if hillary becomes the front runner. I would rather vote for trump than that lawyer that was too dishonest to keep her job on the watergate commission. the WATERGATE commission.
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>>676189917
But then Obama ran on the platform of not renewing the patriot act and he first act as president was to renew it so...............
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>>676190268
Be careful what you post on the internet or you might die in a car crash like her lawyer.
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>>676189600
Ok carl
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>>676189777
Has been confirmed as fake.
Keep believing carl
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>>676190283
the cia is a helluva organization. the last guy to say he was going to abolish them got his head blown off. that was the first and last president to try and fuck with the shadow government.
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>>676173814
>yfw Hillary becomes first female president and gets impeached
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>>676189917
Rephrase that as establishment
Then you'll see why trumps the answer
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>>676190664
Sanders has said he wants the CIA to be disbanded. Let's see what happens to that guy.
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>>676190452
who cares. its not like any of this is not on the public record.
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>>676190664
Soooo then obama is off the hook but bush isnt because "hurr CIA durr"
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>>676190870
if he goes for it he'll get his head blown off but at least people will know who did it this time.
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>>676191068
fuck both of those bitch tit faggots.
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>>676189600
Honestly, I think the mildly racist things that Trump says are to get the media to cover him. It's the primaries. He doesn't need the black vote. There aren't any black voters that are registered as republican.

Wait until he wins the primary and is running against Hillary. You'll see how the whole tone of the campaign changes. Nothing that he has said is overtly racist. Even the quote about "no one who is muslim should be allowed into the country" is not even that racist. I'd say that kind of garbage if I was arguing with someone...it's not what I MEAN.

It will all get spun into culture and muslim countries and blah blah and the KKK is bad and I do not condone them and a bunch of commercials later no one will care as much.
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>>676178920
>implying this isn't true of both sides equally
Republicans are just as guilty for being retarded despite overwhelming evidence. Let me guess, is climate change just a scheme to harm hard working oil companies too?
>but there's no consensus! Only 99.98% of all scientists agree!
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>>676191438
>there aren't any black voters that are registered Republican
u w0t m8?
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>>676191464
Oh god...now we're on to climate change...

I'm pretty sure that you're just confused about what "skeptics" disagree with.

I DO NOT DISAGREE THAT THERE IS CLIMATE CHANGE!

I DO NOT AGREE THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS MAN MADE OR IS NEARLY AS LARGELY AFFECTED BY MAN AS THEY CLAIM!

It's simply not fucking possible. Do some basic math and look at the facts. It's just a cyclical warming and cooling of the planet. And it's not just our planet!
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>>676178131


why doesn't b/ stick just to trap threads
http://www.newsweek.com/colin-powell-emails-hillary-clinton-424187?piano_t=1
The shocking truth about the last two Republican secretaries of state has finally come out: Colin Powell and aides to Condoleezza Rice trafficked in classified information on their personal email accounts. This is an enormous scandal!

Oh, wait. No, it’s not.

This news involving Powell and Rice is meaningless except that it sets up a rational conversation (finally) about the Hillary Clinton bogus “email-gate” imbroglio... From the beginning, the “scandal” about Clinton using a personal email account when she was secretary of state—including the finding that a few documents on it were RETROACTIVELY deemed classified—has been a big nothing-burger perpetuated for partisan purposes, with reports spooned out by Republicans attempting to deceive or acting out of ignorance. Conservative commentators have raged, presidential candidates have fallen over themselves in apoplectic babbling, and some politicians have proclaimed that Clinton should be in jail for mishandling classified information. The nonsense has been never-ending, and attempts to cut through the fog of duplicity have been fruitless.
But Powell and Rice’s aides did nothing wrong. (I’m going to focus on them so that partisans who say Clinton broke the law have to attack respected Republicans first.) Start with this: Powell and Rice, like all modern secretaries of state, each had at least two email accounts—one personal and the other for communications designated as highly classified at the time of their creation . For classified information, both of them—and their aides with appropriate clearance—had a sensitive compartmented information facility, or what is known in intelligence circles as a SCIF. Most senior officials who deal with classified information have a SCIF in their offices and their homes
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>>676191964
ok dumb fucker.
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>>676191648
Let's clarify that statement; There are not a whole bunch of black voters who are registered as republican, who are going to vote for Kruz instead of Trump in the primary because he said something that may be taken as slightly racist and then if Trump wins the primary they will then hold that off-handed comment to heart so much that they will THEN vote for Hillary Clinton over Trump.

That is seriously not going to cost him a measurable amount of votes.
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>You don't have to "like" stamp it classified.
at last a voice of authority and stature
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>>676190829
just like her husband

it's like pottery
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>>676191964
Completely fabricated chart.

I don't have the time to sit here to talk about this right now but I could find you 100 charts that show the exact opposite.

Also, look up the mini ice age, climate change on Mars, watch spaceweather.com for a while, research galactic cosmic rays, look up how the surface temperature of the ocean has be measured and charted for the last couple hundred years and how they changed the model, then you can get back to me when you change your mind.

It's not possible for humans to generate enough CO2 through burning fossil fuels in 50 years to change the temperature 1 degree. If it was, then a single volcanic eruption would alter global temperature for YEARS and in massive ways.
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>>676172522 Even she wont get any lesbian love in prison
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>>676192249


Replied to myself by accident:
>>676192889
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>>676192249
Correlation doesn't prove causation.
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>>676192997
>>676193279
So I guess your smarter than 97% of the scientists that build there lives around studying this. I'm sure your degree in environmental science allows you to have such an enlightened opinion on the subject.
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>>676192249
Also, I would still love for someone to explain to me how in the fuck solar power is going to cool down the planet when it is effectively trapping more sunlight (energy) than a tree (under ideal circumstances) then in turn using it to run a device which would in turn NOT trap the energy in the form of a block of carbon (wood).

Ex. Make a solar panel in space (this has been fucking suggested...retards) catch light, transmit it to earth using a laser, consume, do not burn fossil fuel.

This would effectively be increasing the surface area of the atmosphere and heating up the planet and NOT trapping greenhouse gasses in the form of wood/peat which is (according to hippies) what is killing us all.


In other words, if you're worried about global climate change, plant a fucking tree.
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>>676193279
Core samples offer concrete evidence to back up that graph, buddy. The times, they are a-changing whether you like it or not.
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http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
"Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree: Climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities."
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>>676172522
>in-dick-ted hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>676193918
this has to be a troll. 1/10 you made me reply.
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>>676193835
*You're
Smarter than you are.
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>>676193835
"Scientists" who get their paycheck for delivering the results that are wanted by the government agency that is funding them.

Like the CDC delivering fake rape numbers for Obama.
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>>676193918
Another benefit is that all the trees we plant will help prevent the erosion caused by more chaotic weather like floods and wind storms.
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>>676194135
Using tech jargon to sound smart, but can't offer a link to back it up from a reputable source
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>>676195201
nice meme. I make all kinds of errors when posting on this mongolian tapestry weaving site. and this is the only one that ever gets called out. you wouldnt even notice it if it wasnt a meme. just fuck off with your bullshit.
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>>676195249
Yep, let's just disregard those fucking scientists. What have they ever done anyways?
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>>676194181
100% of the church funded scientists said the earth was flat too faggot
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>>676195249
theres no reason not to do things cleaner. next youre going to tell me catalytic converters are a conspiracy to make cars cost more.
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>>676195249
This.
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>>676178131
Shove your pbr, border patrol hat and rebel flag up your ass you cousin fucking moron. When you get done jerking your dad off into your moonshine and crying yourself to sleep cuz a nigger fucked your mom better than you ever could, the cigarette smoke and exhaust from your shit tier truck will clear to reveal Hillary as president. Then you can listen to kid rock as you hang yourself with baling twine you stupid sack of shit.
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>>676195249
>CDC
>rape statistics
Are you even trying?
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>>676173486
>http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/03/21/law-professor-explains-why-hillary-clinton-wont/209438


Media Matters is Hillary. You can go by what they promote.
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>>676195436
>core samples.
tech jargen. nigger how dumb are you really. anywys heres a source but whats the point you cant understand simple graphs anyway.

http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/co2/ice_core_co2.html
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if hillary gets indicted then I will know in my heart that God still cares about human beings
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>>676196348
one of trumps ex-wives.
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>>676185590
Who's the anorexic on the right??

NAME???
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>>676195636
Nope, just saying you are naive placing trust in people who are under the thumb of the politicians who control their funding.
Corruption is everywhere these days.
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>chappaquiddick
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>>676172522
nope, she bought her presidency already and technically she didnt do it. it was her staff. though i find it funny thats the route it will go but drug dealers cant get away with that shit
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>>676172522
no one is thinking she will be arrested for using her personal email, it is about the CONTENT of the email. overthrowing foreign governments for israel, helping mexico privatize their oil industry etc. yes i think we will see her get charged. whether or not she will be indicted is another story and is up to the court.
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>>676192591
her husband wasnt impeached. stupid ass goyim
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>>676195746
>theres no reason not to do things cleaner.
There is an unlimited amount of money available for every idea that might be good, Oh wait there isn't.
I'm guessing you are female or very young because you have NO idea of the value of money.
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WHO

Is the girl

On

THE

RIGHT??

Name please
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>>676195654
>Church funded scientists

Science persisted in spite of the church, not because of it. Remember Galileo?

The same is true today. Despite the overwhelming evidence that climate change is caused by humans and a threat to society. The government has failed to take appropriate action due to the large amount of lobbying by the fossil fuel industry.
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>>676197467
but when you just manufacture money and it has no true value other than the amount in circulation and oil trade... yea there is unlimited.
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>>676196961
Politicians do what lobbyist pay them to do. Do you think the trees are lobbying? No, you fool, it's the fossil fuel industry lobbying for the opposite
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>>676197396
bill clinton was impeached
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>>676182887
>OMFG what law. Even the BS congressional comittee hasnt implied that she broke any law. Having your email someplace other than yahoo or gmail isnt illegal, unethical, or even that fucking strange. It amazes me how often people I know insist she needs to go to jail. They can never actually describe the crime even at a high level.
>She did NOT use the email for classified information. It is true that some info she had was LATER classified, which also happened to the previous two secretaries of state and is completely normal.
>Its OK to just say "I hate her". Thats really fine. You dont need to pretend that email is illegal to dislike her. Just dislike her in a normal rational way that doesnt make you sound like a retard.

First of all, You're an idiot.

Using your own server for government business violates the Federal Records Act

She did use her private email for Top Secret information. She is right that nothing was marked 'Classified' be she is playing word games. Nothing is ever 'marked Classified'

She not only had SIGINT information in her email, but stuff that was beyond Top Secret.

So, why don't you pull your head from you ass and admit to yourself and others that HRC is an even bigger piece of shit than she was 30 years ago
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>>676195783
Not sure if you are a shill, a weak troll or so blue pilled that you are incapable of thought.

http://youtu.be/1oqyrflOQFc
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>>676197531
no it didnt. ffs. do you even know history kid? the church didnt want scientists outside of the church because knowledge was power. this is why when pillaging other lands you took their information, burned their records, and hid them until people forgot.
this is basic shit
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>>676172522
no but if the fbi actually grows a pair to go after her obama will pardon her saying its wrong to punish someone for serving the nation. she has dirt on him so if he doesnt pardon him then what she could release would ruin even him
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>>676197531
>>676197719
>>676197823

None of you know who the girl on the right is.

>>676197474
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>>676172522
uncle bernie says indict that bitch
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>>676172522
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy GW administration lost over 22 millions emails. WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE? Hillary will never get indicted because this is just a republican smear campaign.
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>>676177528

>Wants to ban a religion from entering the country

>Wants to round up over 10 million illegal immigrants and build a pointless wall on the Mexican border even though it will do little to stop illegal immigration

>Retweets bullshit crime statistics from white supremacist twitter handles

>Advocates violence towards peaceful protesters at rallies

>Literally endorsed by the KKK, Stromfront, League of the South and many more neonazi white supremacist groups

>1/5th of Trump supporters actually admit to being white supremacists when polled

>When asked about the endorsement from the KKK and David Duke an ex-grand wizard Trump fumbles and pretends he doesn't know about them then after waiting awhile he begrudgingly denounces them

Whether or not you think his policies are racist (they are) people that do identify as racists still seem to love him in droves. I don't want someone like that as president and neither should anyone else.
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>>676197847
he was acquitted
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>>676172522

>Will Hillary be indicted?

No.
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>>676198233
he was still impeached
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>>676197467
please be a troll good god. if you want to see how shit it would be like to live in a world where no one is restricted in how much polution production is allowed look at china and india. your championing people that would dump their pollution directly into the water supply if they were allowed too..
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>>676197903
You're an idiot, the philosophers of the middle ages weren't scientists. Science was a product of the Renaissance
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>>676198233
Who is the girl on the right?

>>676197474
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>>676198157
so are you trying to say that white supremacists dont get to have a say in who they want to be president? get the fuck out of here kid. i dont see you posting bullshit about feminist wanting hillary because of her vagina.
why not hate on other hate groups and who they support?

oh thats right it goes against you agenda which is pointless since trump isnt in this to win.

welcome to your first election kid. now get back to readit where fags that type like you belong

also, what wall? you mean a wall over the walls that are already built?
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>>676198233
>he was acquitted
No. He wasn't. He lost his law License because of it. Who the hell has been teaching you? Liberals?
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>>676198488
if its not followed through then its really not done.
he kept his job do to being acquitted.
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>>676198685

i feel sorry for your parents and your teachers who obviously failed you.
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>>676172522
I sure fucking hope so.
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>>676197899
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>>676198857
>>676198733
>>676198718
>>676198685
>>676198668
Cock-suckers...

Who is the girl on the RIGHT?

Please and thank you!

>>676197474
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>>676197899

God, I love when Americans start bitching about illegal immigration. No better proof that they are hypocrites and idiots.
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>>676198668
So if I'm not for unlimited spending, then I can only be for no spending.

Right out of the propaganda playbook.
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>>676199125
I already replied to the post you deleted you fucking raging faggot.
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>>676198733
i dont give a shit about a law license.
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>>676187611
>>676185925

The reason it's xenophobic is that immigration is not a real issue that needs to be addressed right now. Our country has a lot of pressing issues, and illegal immigration just isn't one of them - it doesn't provably cause us economic harm (economists tend to be split on this just like many other issues, but most of what I read posits that illegal immigrants help the economy); it doesn't significantly increase crime rates; it doesn't do shit. It's a popular platform because it appeals to the latent xenophobia in the moronic voter base who think illegal immigrants are stealing our jobs while somehow simultaneously not working and living off of free government handouts.

Would keeping out illegal immigrants coupled with an overhauled, efficient legal immigration system be better than what we have now? Absolutely. In fact, it's even arguable that, if done right (and at the right time), it would be LESS racist than what we have now, as it opens up immigration to everyone instead of preferring those who are geographically nearby. Is it worth prioritizing and founding your platform on right now, however? Not even close.
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>>676199189
The Indians immigrated from Siberia
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>>676199189
glad we didn't assimilate to the savages we came across when we got here. we would still be scalping people and dying of disease
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>>676199191

And bribing people with tax cuts is a different thing?
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>>676199125
learn to fucking use google you dumb fuck

you can search but uploading pictures.
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>>676199191
what the fuck are you talking about I never said anything about unlimited spending. thats something you said yourself and are now trying to argue against that point. Its called strawmanning.
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>>676199189
This is stupid.
like 90% of the european immigrants were forced to do it legally.
When you're talking about indians, they didn't create an international superpower country that they have the power to keep leeches out of.
Notice - all the engineers and programmers and etc have no problem coming to the US, like anyone else migrating anywhere in the world. But carpenters? we have enough untrained carpenters doing absolute shit work, who are already citizens.
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>>676199222
I appreciate it, but you didn't give a name.

What is her name?
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>>676198718
So you admit it's ok to support hate groups? Hey racist. Scream trump isn't racist all you want but you wouldn't support if you didn't think he shared your disdain for Mexicans.
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>>676199358

>The Indians immigrated from Siberia

Yeah, 10,000 years earlier.
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>>676199430
Obviously you don't know, otherwise you would have posted a NAME.
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>>676199408
its the other way around. they are bribed by companies to get the tax cut by assisting to get them in office
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>us fags scared about america
>dual citizenship muthafucka
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>>676172522
I hope so.
Then she can had off her votes to the Bernmeister, and when some avid trump fans finally execute Crus that wacko fuck, we can have the Trump/Bernie showdown, only to have Trump and Bernie pull a fucking wildcard out of their hat at the last minute, and announce that theyre both leaving their parties, teaming up as Pres & Vice on an independent ticket, running unopposed.


The parties shit their pants.
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>>676199642

nice try 8 year old.
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>>676199514
It looks like it might be Melania
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>>676199610
So that is any different from the Spainish or Vikings coming over a few hundred years ago?
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>>676199189
The history your country has the current people taking it over. But no let's focus on only America doing it.
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>>676199713
leave then
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>>676187145
Proof she broke any of those laws? This isn't /r/DonaldTrump or /pol/ you need evidence to back up your arguments
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>>676199713
>says dual citizenship
>doesnt state where

so where then?
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>>676199533
>So you admit it's ok to support hate groups?
Feminism is a hate group.
Black lives matter is a hate group.
A significant numbers of Bernie followers are a hate group against Trump.
The list goes on...
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>>676172522

She is a white woman. The legal system is aimed to take pity on white women. Especially white RICH women. But it will hurt her campaign.
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>>676199610
yeah and how did those immigrants repay the kindness? with polio blankets, forced religious conversion and all wonderful thing the white man did to the red.
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>>676198718

Of course these hate groups have a right to support whoever they want, just don't get butthurt when we point out Trump as the obvious racist that he is.

Hillary is also an obvious shill who works for whoever pays her, and as a Sanders supporter it makes me upset to see women obliviously support her because she's a woman.

Some patchy fences is not comparable to a multibillion dollar project.
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>>676198157
lol the look on the tea parties face


Fuckin hilarious and accurate as shit too
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>>676172908
they indicted the PA attorney general for the same type of shit, e-mail scandal.
she is currently in jail. why should this person be treated any differently.
people like you generally suck as human beings. in other words its only wrong when someone I don't like does it.
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>>676199733
Good End
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>>676199827
yea they didnt run away.
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>>676173637
she isn't president yet.
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>>676181321
no proof of this. oh yeah that's right. sorry I didn't mean to offend you.
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>>676199787
You're the ONLY cool dude in this thread.

Thank you!

------------------------------------

The rest of you can go fuck yourselves.
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>>676199358
>The Indians immigrated from Siberia
And there is good evidence that humans related to the Inu in japan were here before that, and those humans disappeared right after the Asians arrived.
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>>676199533
you say he gets support from hate groups, now you say he is supporting hate groups...
its so magical how you just change from one stance to another.
I dont need to scream he isnt racists because he hasnt said anything that is racist.
I said even hate groups have a right to like a candidate.

as for disdain to mexicans you obviously are pandered by the media since he stated not only illegal mexicans but others as well.

and you know who hates illegal mexicans more than the kkk? real mexicans that gained legal citizenship in the US.

keep on walkin lil goyim
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>>676199733
>dat power play
You been watching too much game o thrones anon

Or... just the right amount.
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>>676172522
When is the last time you saw a billionaire in prison, let it sink in...there's your answer.
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>>676199733
The dubs of truth have spoken
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>>676200590
this
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>>676200084
im not butthurt over idiots who got no clue what they are talking about.

I can give a shit about any candidate since hillary already won this a year ago. I am simply trying to help you stop being so stupid about shit.

you can tell that you are a good lil goyim since you can only regurgitate what my people inform you about. its fucking comical I can explain in great detail all the fuck ups but you are too fucking stupid to know, believe, or understand.
i also like how you are on the shill bandwagon. such a good lil goyim you are
btw there is already fences and walls
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>>676172522
Probably not.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-clinton-email-probe-20160327-story.html

>>Many legal experts believe that Clinton faces little risk of being prosecuted for using the private email system to conduct official business when she served as secretary of State, though that decision has raised questions among some about her judgment. They noted that using a private email system was not banned at the time, and others in government had used personal email to transact official business.

>>The bigger question is whether she or her aides distributed classified material in email systems that fell outside of the department’s secure classified system. But even if prosecutors determine that she did, chances she will be found criminally liable are low. U.S. law makes it a crime for someone to knowingly or willfully retain classified information, handle it in a grossly negligent manner or to pass it to someone not entitled to see it.
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>>676199677
The rich 1% pay for the advertising that gets politicians elected, and thus the 1% controls much of the government.
The politicians pay off their debt to the rich 1% by writing laws that benefit the rich 1%.
And the politicians also use tax money to buy the votes of the welfare class.
So it is a case of democracy being a situation were 3 people get together and 2 of them decide to take all of the third one's money.
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>>676199342
>The reason it's xenophobic is that immigration is not a real issue that needs to be addressed right now.

but it is

>Our country has a lot of pressing issues, and illegal immigration just isn't one of them - it doesn't provably cause us economic harm (economists tend to be split on this just like many other issues, but most of what I read posits that illegal immigrants help the economy)

opinionated drivel and contradictory but okay

>; it doesn't significantly increase crime rates; it doesn't do shit.

just wrong

>It's a popular platform because it appeals to the latent xenophobia in the moronic voter base who think illegal immigrants are stealing our jobs while somehow simultaneously not working and living off of free government handouts.

undocumented workers can work under the table and collect benefits, this is a thing

>Would keeping out illegal immigrants coupled with an overhauled, efficient legal immigration system be better than what we have now? Absolutely. In fact, it's even arguable that, if done right (and at the right time), it would be LESS racist than what we have now, as it opens up immigration to everyone instead of preferring those who are geographically nearby. Is it worth prioritizing and founding your platform on right now, however? Not even close

We don't even know what his focal points will be during the actual race once he gets the nomination. The one certainty is he will destroy Shill in a debate
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>>676176621
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY
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>>676199733
would be epic
would also be the only way Bernie becomes VP
lolz
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>>676201104
lol the 1%.. you are confirmed for retardation.

youd be suprised how many average people are in teh 1%

its a case of lil goyims not knowing how their government works. only stupid on the POTUS and never giving a shit about their other officials that are fucking you in the ass.

lmao, the fucking 1% get the fuck out of here with your ignorant shit.
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>>676176621
oh she is a criminal and been fired for being a liar and untrustworthy multple times in her career.

but it doesnt matter when you can just buy your freedom and POTUS spot.
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>>676200146
I think decent muskets and cannons had something to do with it.
also a based as fuck knowledge of diseases and biological warfare.
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>>676202292
Vikings and shit had comparable weapons to the indians, the spanish went south a bit where it was warm all year.
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>>676201721
The %1 is a convenient label that people understand, the actual very small group is probably much less than %1 and includes corporations (which are legally people in many ways).
Also you might want to froth at the mouth a little less.
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>>676200826

>I am simply trying to help you stop being so stupid about shit.

>Le Jew meme

Fuck outta here. Yes Hillary is the front runner sadly. Perhaps she's already won, but that shouldn't prevent you from fighting her nomination. Please attempt to explain to me how I'm uniformed and on a shill bandwagon when I am vehemently opposed to the biggest shill in the race. I wish to be enlightened by your intelligence.
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>>676201119
>but it is
Why?

>opinionated drivel
http://immigration.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000788

>just wrong
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/16/voices-gomez-undocumented-immigrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/

tl;dr on both of those since I doubt anyone here actually cares about facts enough to read: it's complicated, and the only sure thing is that you can't say for sure either way.

>We don't even know what his focal points will be during the actual race once he gets the nomination. The one certainty is he will destroy Shill in a debate
I'd bet my money on his strategy during the general continuing to be appealing to the baser nature of people, while having nothing of substance to say about meaningful issues. As for destroying anyone in a debate, he's already proven that traditional evaluations of debate performance don't really apply to him, so you're probably right.
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Yes. Absolutely.
You can't argue with my quads.
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>>676172522
Hillary look alike sucking a dildo, or just Hillary eating bratwurst
http://www.streamboobs.com/sophia_jones/
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Who wrote this script?
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>>676199191

Oh no a populist politician who actually wants to provide America with programs that most of the industrialized world already has. Enough of this shit strawman. Sanders does not want unlimited spending, he wants more government spending in areas like health care and education. We do that by slightly increasing taxes on the top earners, cutting corporate welfare, and redirecting tax dollars from bloated projects like the military. This is why no normal person should ever vote republican. Big government socialism for the rich people and corporations that bribe them. Small government bootstraps for everyone else. Fuck off.
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