Favorite political ideology? ( fascism, communism, conservatism, liberalism, etc)
All are shit.
>>675871336
Slavery is freedom
I like the slider in full slavery
>>675871336
Anarcho-syndicalism
>>675871336
Fascism is far left (it is about total government control)
and Anarchy is far right (it is about minimizing government until it is gone)
communism
>>675872261
Anarcho-Communism wins
>>675872592
What's the difference?
>>675872102
>He doesn't know the definition of left and right politics
Google it.
Fascism. The far left is odious, the reds are ruining the world, they've already ruined Europe. No fate is too terrible for a communist.
I still believe in privacy and personal liberty, its the reds who have problems with those things. They pit societies against each other, destroy families, make everybody a servant to state ideology.
Anarchists are just state dependent idiots living in a fantasy world.
Shit scale. You're equating economic and political systems.
>>675872102
Amerifat detected
>>675871336
This chart is inaccurate in so many ways.
That chart isn't even close to accurate or comprehensive, this is more like it
>>675872770
Communist use the state to achieve communism, Anarcho-Communists want to abolish the state as soon as possible
>>675871336
Anarcho-Capitalism is my favorite, how does it fit on your line?
>>675873491
Either ways they should all hang.
They're all inherently flawed, but controlled monarchism affords the least damage from its flaws.
But seeing as controlled monarchism is too unstable to work as a lasting ideology, libertarian socialism is the next runner up, despite laying at such a different part of the political and economic spectrum.
>>675872102
>>675871336
Fascism doesn't really belong over there.
Fascism is all about cultural oppression it's not a type of government. Nazis and socialists can both share fascist views. For example China arresting or murdering people for speaking out against the state or following an unapproved religion is fascism.
>>675873491
Anarchy = No government, Communism= Government that owns and controls everything. Polar opposites, the term "anarcho-communist" is an oxymoron
>>675874025
Hahah, lefties. They actually believe Fascism is a catch all for anything they don't like.
>>675871336
Anarcho-Capitalism
>>675872985
>>675873217
explain why im wrong, faggots
oh wait, you cant, because like a butthurt SJW you have become uncomfortable because I have put forward a theory different to the view you hold and you can't deal with that
>>675874325
Fascism is a catch all for any sort of pro-nationalistic authoritarianism.
That's literally the definition...
>>675871336
I'm a moderate anarcho-fascist who believe only women must be allowed to be gay
>>675871336
>Implying Anarchism is left wing.
>>675874582
>The terms "left" and "right" appeared during the French Revolution of 1789 when members of the National Assembly divided into supporters of the king to the president's right and supporters of the revolution to his left.
If you don't support the established government you are not right wing.
>>675872102
hahahahahahahahahaha your 10th grade education is showing anon
>>675871336
Monarchism is pretty great.
feng shui
>>675874997
It is. How can more control be right wing if less control is also right wing?
>>675871336
socialism/communism = freedom
xDDD you do it wrong, faggot
>>675875427
they don't have to be different
>>675871336
>>675875287
/thread
>>675875256
He says while using incorrect grammar and lack of capitalisation.
>>675875427
Because more economic control = Left Wing.
Less economic control = Right Wing.
>>675871336
nazism
>>675874997
this
>>675872102
Yes, the average American is literally this stupid.
>>675875108
>If you don't support the established government you are not right wing.
Do you support the established government right now in America?
I'm going to assume no.
I guess that makes you left wing.
>>675875862
How can you still believe in that bullshit Jewish property theft con? How can you be so stupid?
All of them are inherently flawed and represent threats to humanity.
The only possible utopy is a democratic technocracy without nationalities in which the people would directly vote for laws, direct democracy has been an impossiblle thing for centuries, but now is perfectly possible thanks to the internet.
But first of all, nations have to dissapear
>>675875862
congrats, you did it too!
You utilized the SJWs favorite tactic of not putting forth an argument (like I did), and purely called me "stupid"
/pol/ is literally SJW-tier
>>675875795
Literally the only real counterpoint to the bs we're having to suffer every day in Europe because of these filthy leftists, reds and beloved invaders.
I'm more of a Republican Quasi-Monarchist myself
No political system works. No one ever said there was a way to provide a fair life to humans. Overcome this idea of a god's nice world.
Right wing libertarianism. Essentially, survival of the fittest and a meritocratic society. None of the free-be bullshit, but also none of the dumb crap based on race/ethnicity/gender/sexuality etc.
>>675871336
Mr. lol
>>675871336
national bolshevism cause I like the edgy flag
>>675873115
>>675873275
Why are people responding to such a dumb chart?
>>675871336
Anarchism next to Communism? Who made this bullshit? Couldn't even take 2 seconds to look those things up on Wikipedia or what?
This whole thing is so retarded. Never change /b/, never change.
>>675876170
>nations have to dissapear
no nations, no taxes, no services, only free market. Nice.
>>675871336
how the fuck could be communism under freedom?
>>675876276
I don't need an argument. If you think Nazi = Communist = Un-American, then only a casual observation is required to determine that you're an uneducated retard.
>>675871787
Ok Orwell take it easy
>>675876117
Get greenpilled faggot
facists = nazism IDIOT
>>675876297
i feel you bro
>>675876170
Oy gevalt, go for it goyim, your boss isn't paying you enough and racism is very bad. Nations are so divisive, imagine how well everybody would get along without them! You need a workers party, like mine, just for the people!
>>675876582
It's called Autism, most leftists suffer from it.
>>675876645
>I don't need an argument
You're digging your hole even bigger m8
>>675876297
>>675876276
>tfw the fascists are gonna loose. The MRAs and /pol/acks and racists gonna loose. We are going to have a communist pansexual utopia where racism and patriarchy are a thing of the past
>>675872102
you poor poor bastard.
>>675874169
That's just wrong
>>675876645
no one said anything about being American or un-American you retard
and you know Nazism is short for Nationalsozialismus - National SOCIALISM, right?
No real nazis no more
>>675871336
Are you retarded, mate?
>Communism = Freedom
>>675876894
Ew, no. Bourgies out of my socialist revolution.
>>675876654
he's right.
Slavery is freedom and freedom is slavery
We anons on 4chan know this better than anyone, we live it.
Ask robots on r9k how their life is, even though they don't suffer through severe starvation or pain, they suffer the mental anguish of freedom.
This freedom is a curse, they cant deal with it and so they suffer loneliness and live not knowing what to do.
>>675877039
Yeah, and did you know that a carpet is a kind of car? It's right there in the name - CARpet. That's literally the depth of your analysis of socialism and right-wing fascism.
>>675877233
>Those levels of edginess.
>>675877429
That is the worst analogy I have ever seen
>>675877497
>edgy
>>675871336
I prefer being a moderate when it comes to politics. In my opinion, anyone who believes too heavily in an ideology, mainly in politics, ends up getting blinded by it and forgets why they are chosen by the people to be there.
>>675877614
It wasn't an analogy; it was satire.
>>675877429
No man, the word goat has "go" in it, and goats can go wherever the fuck they want
check mate
>>675871336
Maoism.
>>675871336
This is so wrong it hurts my brain
>>675877761
> implying the two are mutually exclusive
holy shit you literally cannot stop saying things which are wrong
please, tell me another one
>>675877429
The nazi's were natsocs though. It's not as if that's a debatable point
>>675871336
fixed it
>>675877809
Oh, you're right. Maybe you can understand something with silly word games. That will sure save these Americans a lot of money-grubbing time that they'd otherwise have to waste actually learning what the words mean.
Im technically an anarchist, but i dont like the labels. They restrict you.
>>675877233
We don't claim to be oppressed, we are not victims. Our identity isn't based around victimhood, but heritage and accomplishment and a will to preserve those things We state that we are being displaced, and we are. I am now an ethnic minority in my own capital city because of the policies of you filthy red vermin.
I said before earlier, no fate is too terrible for you bastards.
>>675878097
And I can call myself the King of Siam but it wouldn't change anything about my essential nature. What's your point?
>>675876528
No nations does not mean no structure, you can still have taxes and free services and all that shit, except it would be
1)universally voted for point by point
2)universally implanted
I think I expressed myself wrong, I meant that there should be one single nation.
As an spanish person I see everyday the damage that nationalities are doing to the world, Spain is on the verge of collapsing over a part of the people being part of a different nation.
I think the idea of a nation is ridiculous, why would you belong to a group just by being born somewhere?
It's stupid, the only way to group people should be by their skills.
>>675877628
Are you trying to imply that I am an American?
>>675877957
Weeb.
>Left is freedom right is slavery meme
Haha, I lived under a dictatorship for 1/3 of my life and for some reason now that I live under socialism I've almost been lynched for having different ideals.
>>675871336
This scale is idiotic...
Learn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc6PK7aqTO0&feature=youtu.be
>>675871336
>communism
>freedom
Lol wut
>>675878314
i dont understand what you're getting at
are you trying to say that the nazis werent natsocs? or that english is a weird language or things arent arbitrary or?
>>675878375
>weeb
Can't be, it's China, not Japan.
How about not pinning yourself down with social constructs? There are no wings.
>>675878459
My nigger. Free market till I die.
>>675878561
>>/a/
Go back to where you belong.
>>675878315
Because the people who aren't fucking idiots whose brains have been addled with Marxist propaganda will slaughter you at the first chance they get get when you defy nature, abandon your identity, tribe and civilization that has been crafted and handed down to you over the course of generations.
>>675878375
My mistake. Apparently the reactionary stupid has wafted across the ocean like an unpleasant odor.
>>675871336
Whoever made that chart is fucking stupid
Communism.
>>675877418
>We anons on 4chan know this better than anyone, we live it.
>>675878697
Prefer >>>/int/
People in there have at least traveled, as have I.
>>675878790
/b/
>>675871336
Just-act-fucking-normal-ism
I'm not an anarchist or anything. But putting anarchism in that chart lets me know you don't know about anarchism.
Monarchism has nothing to do with left and right. There are plenty of Parliamentary Monarchies.
Nacism is a type of Fascism.
The problem I see is that there is a lack of knowledge right off the bat.
>>675878868
dubs meme
no dubs
what
i dont
>>675874169
read Marx.
in a true communist state the central government is abolished and people live in self governed communes.
This is why we have never seen a true communist state yet. people are unwilling to relinquish power and so they set up police states dictatorships instead.
>>675872102
He is right you retards.
OP picture is totally retarded.
On a political campus, freedom is right and totalitarianism is left.
>>675872102
You are one dumb motherfucker.
>>675872102
This. True AF. 20th and 21st century liberalism is about large government. NAZIs and fascists are left-wing ideologies.
>stop sucking your community college professor's dick
>think for yourself
>MFW so many retarded anons conflate individualism-facism with left-righ
>>675879137
You're completely wrong, mate.
Read a fucking history book.
>>675878550
My point is that "national socialists" weren't socialists at all. They appropriated some of the promises that actual socialists were making and used them to appeal to the German people who had suffered terribly through the interwar period. But they were never socialists. They did not intend to turn over the means of production to the people. In fact the very first thing they did upon taking power was to drive out / kill the actual socialists and communists.
NOTE: this explanation requires you to understand that socialism is not simply "when the government does stuff".
>>675878742
Oh yes, because Marx was all in for a (true/direct) Democratic Technocracy in a globalized society
I hope you didn't make this picture, and that you are blind and didn't see what you just posted
C'mon guys nations are so primitive. We're living in a global age. If we just teach people that nothing separates us but socio economic factors and mean racists who control everything we could create a utopia. Like China under Mao, or Camobodia under Pol Pot, or Russia under Stalin, or North Korea! I mean, none of those guys got it quite right before, but I bet we can! Now for some empty rhetoric about unity and equality.
>>675871336
Please explain how Nazism is less conservative than fascism and how anchchsuim is the logical next step after Communism?
Ya faggit.
>>675874169
Wow, you are incredibly misinformed.
>>675871336
This visual depiction of freedom/slavery is so retarded it hurts
>>675878744
Nice philological argument. 8/8.
>>675878885
It's cool dude I like Attack the Titan too.
>>675879081
>Read Marx
Why not get aids while you are at it?
>>675878459
>this
immediately subscribed
>>675879476
>durr not an argument
Why do I need a philosophical argument to laugh at you for calling socialism "edgy"?
>>675871336
Nazism
>>675879476
We attack on imperialism.
>做我自己
>>675877039
>National SOCIALISM, right?
Every time
>>675879307
That picture is an information organizational nightmare, it doesn't let the eye cruise along at all.
>>675871336
A.I. government
>>675879276
Listen for a second.
Every party that is about control - social control, abolition of free speech, limits on economy - is a left party.
Right parties are about freedom, and sometimes are nationalist, but about freedom.
Nazism is socialism, it's left. You've just been told your entire life "right are bad nationalists people, like nazis", but that's untrue.
Parties like UKIP, the libertarian party in the us, are considered right.
Anyway, it's semantics! What's important is that Communism and Anarchism can't be on the same side, whatever side it is.
>>675871336
Ah, so Anarchy (no government) is on the big-government end, and Nazism (National Socialism) is on the small-government end. That makes perfect sense. Idiot.
>>675871336
Libertarian.
>>675879381
How the hell can you compare a globalized society with a totalitarian comunist government?
>>675871336
Political spectrum
>according to amerifag model
keep this in mind american /b/ro, shit is different in europe (frenchfag here)
in our "assemblée nationale", unlike your U.S. congress we have more than two political sides (an so few of the other ones that no ones actually gives a shit)
4 major sides, and 5 minor ones, this is a fucking mess. including the fact that all of them are actually supported by a significant amount of citizens, giving each groups strong arguments to mess up with another, close or not in the general sides (left and right)
march happends a lot and often goes riot when the governement takes decisions (or just for some shit-talking from some random senator).
>>675875256
As opposed to your brainwashing by European government schools whose entire purpose it is to convince Eurotrash that a larger government and higher tax rate is beneficial to them?
>>675871336
Nazism shouldn't be on the list BTW. The Nazi's were fascists
>>675871336
And Communism is the polar opposite of freedom. Who made this shit chart? Some dick Russian professor?
>>675877039
North Korea, or DPRK must be a democracy then.
>>675879898
Like I said, the just didn't do it right before, this time we'll achieve the true workers state by wiping out white people. We already got them down to 49% in London, young German adults a minority by 2020! Globalized society, 2016. No more racism or borders to keep the proletariat down.
>>675871336
National-socialism!
>>675879659
Laugh all you like, but the jokes on you.
>Le revolution
>Meh Bernie Sanders
>>675879726
>>>/a/
You have a board for a reason, use it.
>>675880313
Only communism is freedom
>>675880084
And cultural diversity. Islam is European.
>Communism is freedom
>No technocracy
>No meritocracy
Who the hell made that chart and what the hell was he smoking?
Some peoples here need reeducation through labor.
>>675879307
Just take away the PSOE symbol from the picture. They say they are socialist but they have sold most workers to capitalism.
I love how reds always make out like their bullshit won't end with a ton of people starving and some snake oil salesmen stealing everything you own. It'll be different this time.
Even in light of the shit we're dealing with from the middle east, they're at the vanguard of faciliating the arrival of millions more arabs into Europe because of their retarded theory.
>>675871336
>There are people in this world which think anarchism would be good
>>675879898
One world government with full control is sort of the endgame of communism
>>675871336
that chart is wrong in so many ways
OP is a faggot - and his graphic is way off - must have been schooled by an Obama voter using Common Core
>>675881220
This.
>>675872102
Someone gets it
>>675879307
This is cancer. This is fucking cancer. Command economies do not work. Command economies do not work. Command economies do not work. Command economies do not work. Command economies do not work. Command economies do not work.
>>675871336
Anarchism is not an ideology, it's like saying mayonnaise is an ideology
>>675875974
>being this retarded
>>675881232
>Not understanding that Anarchy is the perfect governmental ideology
>being this retarded
It doesn't work in practice because people themselves aren't perfect.
>>675871336
Here this one is better, i'm more anarchist-capitalist/traditionalist
Monarchism, we need someone with a lot of power to actually make change. Monarchism is a good balance. (Powerful gov with power over its people, but not as restricting the people as Nazism or Facism
>Be me in highschool Gov. class
>Teacher is democrat
>Faggots in front row call Republicans the Empire
>Teacher says they would be the rebels
>>675871336
Where's the one where you can pretty much do what you want as long as you don't piss off our Jew masters?
>>675881594
The average communist.
>>675881794
Mayonnaise is an instrument. Anarchism is an ideology. You believe that there should be no government.
>>675881833
so it's literally shit as an Ideology
>>675880570
>Le revolution
>Meh Bernie Sanders
Bernie Sanders' platform is at most social democracy. Anyone who knows the first thing about socialism realizes this.
>>675871336
Left Libertarianism (spirit of Paine etc)
>>675871336
The freedom/Slavery bar is false. Communism is NOT a free society.
>>675871336
That's the worst chart i've ever seen. Putting communism next to anarchism is extremely retarded. Political parties have 2 dimensions; left, right, libertarian and authorative. This is dumb.
>>675881833
>My airplane would have been great if it wasn't for physics.
>>675871336
politics are for retards.
>>675881777
You're sticking your fingers in your ears and rocking back and forth while you chant that, aren't you?
>>675881307
A globalized democracy doesn't need a group of idiots controlling everyone, 20 years ago? maybe, but now we have internet, so we can finally have a true democracy
And anyway communism is doomed. Because with the age of AIs all jobs will be creative so no more proletariat bullshit.
We all know that real anarchism is on the right
>>675882004
My sides.
>>675882229
>Socialism
>Implying Bernie "The Cuck" Sanders is not a socialist.
Nice meme.
>>675879476
the reasons why you should read marx:
1. knowledge. you should never say no to reading a book if the opportunity presents itself.
2. through knowledge comes power. so fair enough you disagree with Marx's view on how to create a utopia. read his books so you know what you are disagreeing with without coming across as a misled or misinformed muppet
but yeah. you can try to contract aids if you want. no skin off my nose mate. maybe reading books with big words is difficult for you. maybe you were raped by a syndicalist when you were young. either way, i wish you the very best in life. i have heard that life is blessed for the truly ignorant
Libertarianism is the best.
Prove me wrong.
>>675871336
You must urgently broaden your spectrum.
>>675882601
>right-anarchism
Wrong flag, anarcho-capitalist
Anarcho-capitalism: because nothing should stand between capitalism's cock and your lily-white asshole
>>675882574
>all jobs will be creative
hahah everyone check out this faggot who hasn't got a clue what he's talking about!
>>675881777
top kek
Communism. People always are like "oh yeah! I think communism in writing is a great idea, but the USSR, amirite?"
In a word, no, they aren't right-- the USSR version of communism was secret totalitarianism... which is extremely close with fascism.
The only reason why people say it wont work, is they are kitty-cat scared of shit going wrong, but fuck-- lets do it right America.
>>675882538
Communism doesn't allow for basic human traits like ambition, jealousy and greed.
>>675875427
Because it's not a left/right scale. There's also another scale, which is often drawn upright. Both left and right wing can be authoritarian or libertarian.
>>675871336
>Anarchy and "freedom" next to state communism.
>National Socialist German Worker's Party is right wing.
I assume you're trolling OP.
>>675882671
>Implying Bernie "The Cuck" Sanders is not a socialist.
Is he advocating social revolution to overthrow capitalism? Then his platform is not socialist. He might be a socialist personally and think he's paving the way for future socialist revolution, but there's no evidence for that in his actual stated positions.
>>675877628
Liking your country
Owning a piece of home defense
>"stupid"
Silly liberals
Anarchism
>>675882948
You're not clever because you're a leftist.
I've read Marx, I've read Stalin, I've read Lenin. I've read texts from Khmer Rouge, I've followed Communist word press sites, I've read Trotsky. I think Communists should hang, and thats a sentiment I developed AFTER reading all that filth.
What is it with the left and thinking they're by default more literate than their political opponents? Have you ever read Savitri Devi or the table talks?
>>675882948
>you should never say no to reading a book
I think this is a book that may appeal to the reading level of your demographic.
Enjoy the breadlines anon.
>>675883226
>>675883067
just look at how robots (as limited as they are today) are ending with the need for proletariat, with more advanced AIs we will be able to get rid of every job that does not require creativity and intelect
>>675883226
You do realize that thinking is different from mindlessly reading the slogans from bumper stickers, don't you?
>>675883057
literally nothing you said made any sense but that's ok you didn't even counter my claim, go be useless you fascist.
>>675871336
Anarchism
>>675876823
I miss Hitler
>>675883571
muh nigga
>>675883329
>liberals
Ha, no
>>675883506
Oh how sad you will never have communism :((((((((((
>>675882995
This guy nailed it.
>>675883747
I'm just surprised you don't believe that America's communist government is currently destroying your white heritage.
>>675883819
By "this guy", you mean you don't you? Well, here's your reply samefag
>>675883307
>Implying the advocation of force to steal another man's capital is not socialism.
>Implying the advocation of larger state is not socialism.
>Implying he dose not only call himself a "democratic socialist".
>>675872102
you are right and the comments show how full of retards this place is.
>>675881220
Communism will succeed once we have perfected;
>robotics for all labour jobs
>a.i. To manage robotics and beaurocracy
>and neutrino technology to create unlimited resources..
There you my formula for a Utopian society
>>675876170
You forget that religions also pose a major impediment for freedom.
Both nations and religions should disappear
>>675877067
I'm still here
>>675883937
That photo is only half true, Jesus and christianity is an anarchist religion but not marxist by any means. (not anon you're talking to)
>>675884060
>People can't have the same opinion.
>>675884133
that would make communism utterly useless, it is already outdated, and those things would kill it.
What you say would be closer to a meritocratic technocracy
>>675883937
>Jesus
>Nailed to a cross by the state for rebelling against establishment orthodoxy
>Preached for people to help and trust each other rather than relying on the authorities
>Marxist
Yeah, I don't think so anon.
>>675883937
im not even american
The chart is flipped around, and either way it would be a grid with two axis - not just a line.
>>675884060
Kek, that guy isnt me
>>675883516
it doesn't make sense when your brain isn't capabel of processing it
Itt: communists who don't understand politics getting btfo
>>675871336
Gimme anarcho-syndicalism.
>>675882538
your pic.. is so retarded.
>>675884078
You don't own any capital, dummy. Your hentai collection isn't capital (or even what socialists would call "private property"). Socialists don't recognize private claims to society's capital (did you invent science by yourself? No? Then the development of capital was a group effort). The size of the state has nothing to do with socialism per se; in fact, a communist society has no state at all. And he can call himself a democratic socialist, but then again I can call myself the Emperor of China.
>>675884806
Or maybe you just don't understand history or political systems.
>>675884810
>Implying capital is not income.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_(economics)
>>675884791
Now we see the violence inherent in the system!
Help, Help, I'm being repressed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxGqcCeV3qk
>>675884196
>both religions and nations should disappear
Races are a bigger problem than religions, an they are part of nations, we won't have true freedom untill an individual is identifiead as an individual instead of being thrown into a group based on their skin/place of birth
>>675884810
That picture makes me sick. You are the scum of the earth
>>675884766
"Hurr Durr i cannot make an argument to counter a political position so my opposition is stupid."
-you
>>675885189
Yeah, just a raceless grey mass, a tea colored proletariat with no ties to anything greater than the current state ideology. Low iq, ugly, mediocre, subservient with no sense of heritage. Finally, equality and the end of racism.
because OP's wrong graph is bothering me so much. If it had to be a line (politics are not this simple but if it HAD to be) then i would look like this.
>>675871336
Anarchism, but it's actually right wing faggot. Nice fail chart though
>>675871336
Any of them will work fine so long as true watchdogs exist that find and stamp out corruption.
The world needs Jedi.
>>675885549
this is a line for retards
seriously if you think his is close to right, kill yourself
Yore all faggots for thinking political Ideologies fit in a line, Horseshoe theory, GOAT.
>>675885549
>>675885569
none of the extremist lefties are even bothering looking up definitions, but good to know not all people here are retarded enough to think anarchism is somehow communist.
>>675885095
In a socialist system (and there are as many possible implementations as there are possible forms of democracy), shares in socialized production could be used to obtain goods and services but not control of capital. Private capital, purchasing shareholder equity, etc. would not exist; one could not exchange labor for capital. A more interesting question is when personal production becomes social capital and how that transition would be made.
>>675871336
A sliding scale between all of them over time is the best way. Sometimes we need a dictatorship to get shit done efficiently. And sometimes we anarchism to help the people be true to their nature.
Basically I'd just switch every 15 years from one to another. Society would then know for sure which one is best for them.
You can't really choose until you've experienced first-hand.
>>675885776
how does the other line make a single bit of sense to you? conservatives have Always argued for less government, while liberals have Always argued for more social programs and government intervention. Do you not understand linegraphs?
>>675885256
And you are a living fossil, poisoning the Earth as you struggle to remain above the ground.
>>675885529
That is stupid, every individual is radically different from another individual, equality is bullshit, we have to acknowledge the diversity and embrace it instead of trying to create masses, nations and races are excuses for cowards who cannot think for themselves and are afraid of embracing their real characteristics and the fact that you do not belong to any group by default
>>675885776
It hurts how stupid you are to think that simple line depicting political ideoligies is wrong. Tell me what part of that graph do you have a problem with?
>>675886226
>It hurts how stupid you are to think that simple line depicting political ideoligies is wrong.
But anon, it is stupid to think that all political ideologies fit on a one dimensional spectrum from "America-hating statist" to "muh freedom"
>>675883396
good for you. the argument i was having though was with a chap who said he would rather contract aids than read Marx. the reason why i suggested that he reads marx in the first place is because he was labouring under the common misconception that Communism wants big government when in actual fact marx envisioned self governed communes, hence the name. you being a scholar know all this already of course.
>>675886012
So you want to abolish currency?
>>675885794
if not a circle
>tfw when the political spectrum is really a circle and communism and fascism are shockingly similar
>>675886207
Rampant individualism and merging of peoples who have developed differently, through varying cultural, religious and environmental factors could end badly. But not with Communism on our side!
Our left wing theory trumps nature and reality every time.
>>675886226
This line isn't really applicable to european politics.
>>675886451
I agree we can't fit all these on a single line but all these examples are coherent with the division of absolute control and no governmen. That is a very sound graph for simple measures.
>>675886012
Lets say I own a farm in a small town, I tend my own crops and grow just enough food to support my own family. But willing choose not to give any of my food away. Would "Socialism" have an issue with this?
>>675886478
Again, it depends on the implementation of socialism we're talking about. Attempts at developing market-based socialism exist. But in most implementation, wages as we know them would be abolished. In any event, it would become impossible to buy control of capital through shares in socialized production. It would be no more possible to buy control of a democratic economic system than it would be to buy control of a democratic political system. The control of the means of production belongs to the people, whether this means that workers manage their own businesses, there's some form of representative management, or whether major decisions are made through direct democracy.
>>675886734
That's because you can't adapt the current society into a true democratic global system.
You'd have to design a base for the new global culture (i.e establish a global language, a global education...) and educate the new generations to be a part of that system, the generations that are part of the current system would be almost completely excluded from the new world, and the current world would die with the end of those generations
>>675887159
Most socialists don't believe it is possible to own large tracts of land (as would be needed for farming, for example). A farm would be a business like any other, communally owned and operated. Certainly you would be free to participate in agricultural production, but you would not be free to build a fence around a piece of land and tell everyone else to fuck off.
>>675887664
Why not? Nobody else works my land. I produce enough to support my own family and my family alone. Who are you to tell me I can't tell parasites to fuck off and leave me in peace.
born free I shall roam free and harvest my earth.
>>675887664
How would you organize supllies in a large city without extensive big government?
>>675889055
walmart
>>675871336
National socialist workers party were right wing?
>>675888128
Because you have no valid claim to a finite resource we all share that belongs to society. Again, a more interesting question is when a small plot for personal use (which would be personal property I suppose) becomes a social resource. Some socialisms wouldn't allow you to claim any land, others might recognize personal production on a negligibly small plot. But you can't just go claiming thousands of acres of prime farmland for yourself. That's just silly.
>>675872102
el ee el you magnificent faggot
>>675871336
suicide
>>675889372
What if I don't want to share or be a part of your society? I just want to work my own land for my own and not have to give anything to anyone else or take anything from anyone else. Naturally if the land is not being worked or used it is not truly owned.
Communism is the best
http://stalin.x10host.com/
>>675890018
>What if I don't want to share or be a part of your society?
Ok, leave. Why should you receive any benefit from society if you don't want to be a part of society?
>>675890830
>>675871336
Wouldn't anarchism be far right?
>>675871336
The closer to either end I get, the happier I am.
If you're going to do something, do it all the way, don't pussyfoot around in the center being wishywashy like a feebleminded little wuss.
>>675890931
I could't agree more, however society seems to think its a good idea to lock people in cages if they don't want to be apart of society.
I have no problem with people forming collectives as long as they let myself and others go about our own business and don't force us to be part of them.
>>675871336
>>675890931
>>675891554
Also lets say I want to trade some of the crops I grow with my neighbour who looks after livestock. Would this be an issue?
>>675891246
Yes, anarchism is a left wing fantasy. In reality it's the farthest thing from ultimate left wing. They want government to have total control of people's lives, AKA fascism.
>>675891246
Depends on the context but most black flag waving people who beat up cops at rallies are anarchists who side on the liberal spectrum.
Anarchy doesn't fit in a corner of a political spectrum, because you can be centrist, liberal, or anarchist really. A good example of right-winged anarchy would be anarcho-capitalism, and a good example of left-wing anarchy would be anarcho-communism.
>>675891863
>muh big gubbermint tho
>Defining left and right in Fox News terms.
back to the end of the line, nigger
There.
I fixed it for you so it actually makes sense.
>>675892156
You did an amazing job at proving him wrong, your parents must be so proud.
Liberalism
>>675892156
Kekd
>>675892453
Thank god, finally somebody who gets it!
>>675872102
>>675892453
Fascism is like the most right-winged you can get. Also there is left-wing and right-wing Anarchy, but the former is more prevalent.
>>675892453
Thanks for fixing it. I am tired of people putting nazism to the right.
>>675892453
That is still wrong
Naziism isn't right wing, it isn't left wing.
it is its own fucking bird
>>675893610
National Socialism
>>Socialism
Fuck off you retarded cuck.
>>675892453
that is the most accurate depiction of that picture yet
>>675893725
Democratic republic of Congo
>>>democratic
>>675871336
That pick is retarded how is communism anywhere close to freedom you special needs child
>>675871336
Whoever made that picture is a retard or a child.
>>675893240
Cuck detected
>>675871336
Maoism
Politics are more than one demention
>>675894404
>>675894033
Elaborate
>political spectrum
>anarchism on the left
>implying anarchism would appear on the "spectrum"
>false dichotomy
gtfo shit tier logician
>pic related
>>675871336
your chart is so fucking stupid
anarchy is the complete absence of government
and communism is the overbearing hand of absolute government..
go back to school underage b8
Anarchism. Burn it all.
>>675872102
Atleast someone here understands the spectrum
>>675894960
>absolute government
>communism
Wat?
>>675871336
Theocratic Anarchism, because commies won't stop themselves.
>>675892453
So then republicanism is a radical left wing party, because the size, cost, and reach of the government has actually increased during every republican administration and decreased during every democratic admin.
Or maybe your criteria for what constitutes right and left ideology having anything to do with size and control of government, as pushed on you by party marketers since the civil war, is so absurdly over-simplified it has no basis in reality.
>>675894960
>>675895242
>>675872102
go back to stormfront you fucking faggots are worse than fucking nazifurs fuck
>>675871336
Nihilist
