So I think I figured out why trannies exist. Very early in the history of our species, at the dawn of time, we set roles out for men and women. Men, being generally bigger and stronger, hunted food and protected the tribe, while women, smaller but typically more perceptive, gathered the plant portion of the tribe's food and cared for the children. As we evolved, men transitioned from hunters to breadwinners and picked up tasks like blacksmithing, soldiering (an extension of protecting the tribe), and other crafts like carpentry, while women picked up on more at-home things they could do in addition to caring for children, such as making clothes, managing finances for the household, and cleaning. As a result, we had and have two very different types of behavior ingrained into us to carry on this model, depending on our genitals. Transgender individuals came about not necessarily as a result of nature or nurture, but because they felt more at home in the other sex's traditional role- men who felt more at home cooking, cleaning and raising their children, or women who wanted to fight or learn a trade. This evolved into these individuals actually believing they were born with the wrong genitals, as opposed to understanding that their wants and desires simply differed from the norm for their genitals. Thoughts?
>>675474834
>Thoughts?
TL;DR also pic related
>>675474834
Not out of the reason but it's hard to say, this could overlap on the activities and comfortities of homosexual men and lesbian women as well.
I believe this issue is a lot more complex than you put it, but this could be a factor in some cases.
Also fuck you OP you faggit of making me look at that image...
You've got it in one.
But if you're in america or the uk be prepared for all the new laws placing gender before sex which means your girlfriends, wifes, mothers and daughters have to share spaces like changing rooms with anyone who 'identifies' as female. I.e. men.
When your 6 year old looks up into that 50 year old mans cock as she gets ready for her swimming lesson, know that the fact everyone just ignored this whole thing caused it.
>>675474834
Conclusion: OP is a fag
>>675474834
Some ppl transition due to gender role bullshit like that. Others like myself just hate everything about having a male body and male genitalia, and since the scientific means to change that exist, we transition.
Also, parents thinking this shit is cool
>>675475287
OP here. This poster is not wrong.
>>675475698
So can I just say I'm a woman, then use the woman's bathroom whenever I feel like it?
>>675475281
This. But at the same time, why even be bothered gendering the shitter? Everybody poops and we have different danglies. Who the fuck cares?
>>675475826
Yep. Most men aren't rapists. But that tiny % that are are going to love this new law.
>>675475864
In instances were uni sex bathrooms were installed some have changed back very quickly. Tends to be somewhere 'right on' like a uni. Then they catch the first few guys taking photos under toilet stalls and everyone pretends it didn't happen.
>>675474834
FAGGOTS LOVE TO THINK THAT EVERYONE ELSE MUST BE A FAGGOT TOO.
I love to cook. has nothing to do with assuming a female role. quite the opposite... bitches refuse to cook now, so that's just ANOTHER responsibility and job that men need to take up. now i not only provide the money but i gotta make the meals as well. and even though women are literally useless, i still can't get rid of my urge to fuck them. something i've never felt towards any male ever. choke on dick and die, OP.
>>675475665
No one cares faggot
>>675475826
What is stopping you, right now, as a cis male, from entering the women's bathroom whenever you feel like it? Not a damn thing. You can open the door and walk in just like any other human being on the planet can enter any other public area.
People make it out to be like there's going to be hordes of men claiming to be women all of a sudden. That's not gonna happen, nor will it be as simple as "Say you're a man use the mens room, say you're a woman use the womans."
Laws would almost certainly require a diagnosis of gender dysphoria and that the person using the bathroom opposite to their birth gender is actually transitioning, hrt, etc etc.
>>675476080
you bitch like a woman
>>675474834
>tumblr shit
kill yourself
sage
>>675476311
>as a cis male
>>>/tumblr/
>>675475565
>lucifer
>>675476311
self moderation stops the odd man who would try this. no one said hordes. just that one guy. who would usually be so out of place he'd be challenged, until it becomes a hate crime to challenge.
"Almost certainly" = I haven't bothered checking
No diagnosis needed in the UK. Once Maria Miller gets her law through identification is enough.
TLDR: Back to tumblr you sjw cunt
>>675475698
>>675474834
GTFO cancerfag and kill yourself while you're at.
>>675477215
>>675477215
>>675477336
>>675477612
they are beta male faggots that like cock.
>>675478766
>that like cock.
Such as the pole smoking faggot OP
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/23/gender-fluid-generation-young-people-male-female-trans?CMP=share_btn_tw
>>675475565
>basically naming your kid satan
>He should become a priest
>>675476066
So then install toilets for women and people who identify as women only.
Problem solved!
>>675478162
kek
Not a bad point OP. But I enjoy cooking and all that and I have no desire at all to cut my dick off
>>675479611
10 years ago they would be gay bottoms..
>>675474834
>So I think I figured out why trannies exist.
>not one mention about the existence of the prostate.
When I went to college or high school, toilets were gender neutral and so were the swimming pool cabins.
Perhaps partially a reason but I thibk its more likely that some people are just faggots
IE
>giving fags the benefit of the doubt just results in them thinking they can do this shit and feel superior because of this, respect must be earned even whem gay or trans
That could be part of it, but the real issue is orders of magnitude more complex than this.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/woman-posed-as-man-to-have-sex-teenage-girls-jennifer-staines-bristol-a6948491.html
>>675481696
As a faggot, I agree. I don't expect respect just because I like dick. I expect it on the merit of being an all-around decent person.
>>675482413
>>675482376
>>675482133
>>675482099
>>675481973
>>675481943
We get it dude, you love black cocks and tell yourself it's for the wimmin. You win White Knight of the Week.
>>675482636
I'm not done kid, take your ADHD meds you hyperactive shitball.
>>675482636
>>675474834
Here's my theory:
Trannies and traps are exciting because they have some primary female attributes that are arousing in addition to having male attributes males can understand easily.
When you see a woman feeling pleasure that is certainly arousing, but you cannot identify with it as strongly as when you see a male feeling pleasure. But seeing a regular male feel pleasure it is not arousing. Traps break through this by looking in many other ways not like males, so your brain thinks that it is seeing a female feel pleasure that you can understand.
It's not like you aren't still looking at a male, but your brain is confused.
you are right.. I cook and clean. because I'm an independend person who knows how to take care of himself. but it doesnt stop me from wearing girly clothes because they feel so good...
>>675482979
>even the most feminine males should pretend to be alpha males
>feminine males are just confused
sure thing, I would rather have people in the open about their mental disorders than shame them into silence to keep reproducing dysfunctional kids with their polluted DNA.
>>675482979
>yes yes
>keep telling those goy that transexuals are just normal people confused
>they should keep reproducing with females
>keep spreading their corrupted DNA
>pollute the white male DNA
>shame them into submission
Nigga this is bullshit you are just gay
>>675483452
bot of course, because it's an either or choice.
either 2.4 children and a picket fence or pretending you were born in the 'wrong body', hilariously most claiming this claim to be athiests.
why not just accept you want to wear dresses as a man, wear them, but accept you're still a dude and liking clothes, cooking, being rammed up the ass by an 11 inch cock doesn't make you a woman.
This thread made me wan to kill myself
>>675483979
don't let us stop you
>>675483965
I can tell by your fragmented and broken sentences that your small pea-sized brain is starting to see the truth.
Shaming potential transexuals into being males and reproducing actually corrupts the white bloodline.
Letting the freaks be freaks and get rammed up their asses and die by the time they're 35 from AIDs actually helps the white race in the long run.
Celebrating the weak while letting the leaders lead actually helps weed people out.
Helps purify the white race.
>>675484430
You don't seem to understand. Many of these 'trans-women' consider themselves lesbians. Check out the soon to be Women's Officer for the NUS. Anna Lee.
>>675474834
Go back to Tumblr faggot
>>675484657
You don't seem to understand.
Just because a small minority of transsexuals stay with women doesn't mean it's better to try and "fix" them.
Majority don't reproduce.
Majority are bi-sexual yet gravitate towards men.
The more you try and shame them the more likely they will give up and stick with women.
>>675484048
I'll lurk until this cancer 404s. I'm almost certain that I'll do it by the time you autistic faggots are done.
>>675474834
I am mtf trans ans that's bullshit. We mtfs have a fucked up little neuron bundle in our brain base that causes us to feel like women. Shit, when I was entering puberty I really thought I should be getting boobs and I would yank on my nipples all day, then when my period never came I finally did some digging and learned I was never going to be a girl.
Why don't they just break gender roles instead of being attention seeking lying faggots who lie about gender.
>>675485141
puberty before you realised you had a dick?
you retarded son?
>>675485246
Because that would be difficult. Much easier to claim oppression and dominate their way into women's spaces. Women roll over like dogs for anyone who they see as needing care, hence how when you have a potato child it's the woman who won't abort and looks after it. They've been socialised to be nice, so they're nice to dave the trucker when he says he's a woman because feelings.
>>675485246
We are not lying, sure there are tons of dudes who claim to be trans because it gets their dicks hard but most of us are just women though and through.
>>675485141
I want to find out if there's a correlation with parents being A-sexual and having a higher chance of having children with transsexual disorder.
>>675478162
Fucking lost.
>>675485556
I am not retarded, I never felt like i was a boy. My religious parents didn't even tell me the differences between boys and girls, just that I could never do anything girls did or I would get my ass kicked. I had to bottle up my feelings till I was 22 and finally started female hormones and testosterone blockers. Now I live as a well adjusted female and just got engaged to my bf.
>>675485878
Go away faggot
>>675485878
oh hey
a mentally ill fag spotted
what's up fam
have you got over your denial yet and accepted that you have problems and should accept yourself as you are naturally as your chromosome defined self?
>>675485878
Would you have any opinion on parents being A-sexual and a higher chance of children with being transsexual?
>>675480409
But SJW logic goes "what if I'm a trans-panda that has started to identify as a male human? Stop raping me with your cis-panda privilege!"
>>675485878
so basically you're a boy who likes girl stuff but your parents conditioned you to thinking if yuo weren't a typical male you were wrong.
Congrats, you take hormones to justify your parents stupidity. Enjoy your side effects.
>>675480563
No. Gay tops and bottoms I have no problem with- they like the cock, and don't find females sexually attractive, but they aren't mentally defective.
They have a male body, and accept that, unlike trans-faggots that have no grip on reallity
>>675486318
Real mtf's arn't sjws. Most mtfs I know personally and online and myself are all republican. Stop shouting nonsense.
>>675486500
>>675486278
>>675486181
>>675486078
Shut the fuck up after a while. Being trans isn't like any of the bullshit you see here or on television. Most of us pass as women and have intergrated into society as one. Don't make the old hons out to be what all trans girls are like, jenner is a man and a fetishist and so are all people who "transition" after 30 years old.
>>675487017
Nice, Trans TERF.
Do you get your own special bathroom away from the other weirdo trans? oh wait, they're all in the womens.
No trans passes. I know trans people, they're nice, and no one tells them that they do not pass. People just don't say it to your face.
>>675487017
>Most of us pass as women and have intergrated into society as one.
Don't care. Whatever helps you sleep at night mentally ill faggot.
>>>/tumblr/ fuck off
>>675487075
That isn't a real mtf. Its a dude being a jerk to get attention. This is a real mtf.
>>675475565
My cousin does this shit, parades the kid around in girls clothes to show how fucking progressive she is. I don't give a shit what you do stop putting it all over Facebook and making a big fucking deal about it for attention.
>>675487289
Kek, that picture is so wrong. Real mtf's get vaginoplasty.
>>675487266
Correction, real trans people pass. Stop trying to lump in old gnarly men who are fetishists with real trans girls like me.
>>675487827
I genuinely don't know why you're pissing me off so much. Seriously fuck off and an hero
>>675487827
fuck is that you? Jesus wept dude. Man in a dress from a shitty adams apple covering, hip and waist cropping angle.
Pic related: This dick recently spent time in a women's prison.
>>675487827
who is that beautiful creature
>>675488391
me
>>675488314
I don't have an addams apple, testicles, or a penis anymore so fuck off. I pass 100% in person and no one knows the wiser.
>>675488139
Its jealousy probably. I was a muscle bound jerk 4 years ago and would spam trap threads with gore, then I decided to stop being mad and transition.
>>675488743
>Its jealousy probably
Not really. Just you faggots, especially trapfags, are fucking obnoxious. Genuinely no one gives a shit about your life.
Post cut off dick I want to see what it looks like when you faggots decide to butcher yourselves.
>>675489123
I went to dr chett, still healing but this is the average result for someone under 25.
>>675488743
well, regardless of the assignment hats I think your splendid
>>675488743
>stop being mad and transition
>stop being mad and transition
>stop being mad and transition
>stop being mad and transition
>>675489367
um... is it bad that I want this? I am 27 and pretty manly, is there any hope I could pass as a woman?
>>675489367
Why is it so closed looking
>still healing
What does that look like. I'm genuinely interested
>>675489634
nope
gender socialisation starts very very young
you cant fake that shit
>>675489576
Looks like a mexico hack job. Sorry you think all transginas look like that. Mine looks great, just still a bit puffy and I am having granulation which means blood is coming out a bit. at least it gives me a reason to wear tampons finally.
>>675489576
Kek
>>675489812
and i'll call troll now
tampons? and you say you're not about the fetish you sick fuck. team up with this guy.
>>675489812
you're bleeding from a self inflicted wound
you were told how to deal with dryness
and you chose tampons you fucking weapon?
>>675490132
that is a maxi pad you moron. I have to wear tampons as its healing because of granulation, my vag is still healing and some blood is still coming out. So do you want me to leak blood when I am at work? fuck u dude
>>675490437
>>675485141
So you admit to being mentally ill? Excellent, lets work on drugs that can fix this, instead of mutilating your body.
>carpentry
Fucking /adv/
>>675490818
ah no, mentally ill is something cause over time and conditioning, my brain is physically female
Gender is controlled by that small structure in the picture and if too much estrogen is flooded into the womb during a certain point in pregnancy then the baby ends up female minded.
>>675491129
gender is a social construct
females are 'female minded' because of how they've been conditioned to act
not because of lady brain, which has been proven not to exist and has been used to keep REAL women in 'their place' for ever
>>675491129
>my brain is physically female
>physically female
>physically
>female
>>675491492
>barks
>>675491129
Schizophrenic people believe they talk to appliances but that doesnt mean we appease them, we make drugs that target the sections in the brain causing this erratic behaviour and help them.
Friendly reminder your tranny suicide rate is incredibly high before AND after surgery. Come on man, we can fix you. Just let us.
>>675491373
Gender isn't a social concept moron, its because hormones in utero control forming of a certain small brain structure.
>>675491492
Well a female brain and a male brain are identical except the structure I posted a pic of, how fucking dumb are you guys.
>>675491373
Shut up cunt
>>675491936
If he's already slashed his dick off it might be too late. There is however one more option for him
>>675491936
>Schizophrenic people
Totally different thing dude so why bring that up at all???
Oh and the trans scuicide rate is bullshit nonsense that only takes 40+ year old transitioners into account. Most of those gross old men who transition late like that never look or sound like real women so the off themselves duh. People who transition young like me are happy as fuck.
>>675483138
This.
>>675492195
>how fucking dumb are you guys
Look at the noble prize winning brain surgeon here.
Yeah /b/ is the problem. Sure bruh, sure
>>675492195
>barks
is it wrong to be like that?
>>675474834
This is pretty much entirely wrong, it's been proven that trans individuals have sections of the brain generally associated with sex showing values closer to the gender they identify as than their biological sex.
It's not cultural, it's biological.
>>675492682
even if you enjoy doing it?
>>675492394
this is why the suicide rates stay high. more and more are now detransitioning and once you've slashed off your john thomas there's fuck all to go back to.
You cut off your dick to make a fuck purse for other guys your self esteem is pretty fucked.
Some interesting blogs from those who got out before surgery.
>>675474834
cool research fag
Gotta do something about that man face if you want to pass
>>675492195
>its because hormones in utero control forming of a certain small brain structure.
This is a hypothesis on homosexuality you uneducated faggot. Not transgenderism. There is data that homosexuality might be genetically caused. Gender identity disorder is still, to this day, classified as a mental illness.
>>675492777
thank god I am not alone on this
>>675492571
Well if you weren't a dumb teenager you would already know being transgender is a biological problem, not a societal one.
>>675474834
Interesting theory.
Disgusting picture.
>>675492463
>People who transition young like me are happy as fuck.
Until you realize you'll age like milk. You have two options, you can be a cumdumpster for fetishists or you can be a normal, healthy man. You can never reassign your chromosomes.
>>675474834
>>675492878
>this is why the suicide rates stay high
And since the only fucking treatment for their mental illness prescribed is HRT and transition.
Faggot doctors nowadays enable their delusion instead of treating it. This is the only mental disorder where sick humans are encouraged and allowed and their sickness is enabled
>>675493549
transablism is a thing now............
>>675493124
>know being transgender is a biological problem,
It's not. Being homosexual is a direct result of biological conditions. Yes they are related, presumably. However, being transgender is a mental illness. Therefore, psychological.
Honestly, >>>/tumblr/ fuck off to it faggot
>>675482636
The irony is fucking hilarious
>>675493422
Actually again you are wrong. Trans girls who start young age even better than women because we always have a steady amount of estrogen in our bodies, unlike normal women who get a drop is estrogen around 35 and then enter menopause at like 45 to 50.
Stop looking at old men like jenner and determining all trans people look like that or age like that, he was a fucking man until his 60's so of course testosterone made him an old man.
>>675493697
>transablism
Genuinely have no idea what that is
>>675492195
Oh now gender isn't a social concept? I thought it was sex that wasn't.
>>675494064
>Trans girls who start young age
How young of an age would you presume to be appropriate?
>>675491936
Anon, i'm going to humor you and explain the difference between schizophrenia and transsexuality.
Transsexuality is (most likely) caused by a difference in the size of a section of the limbic system called BSTc. Specifically the neuron count. Cisgendered men have a much higher neuron count in this region than cisgendered women. MtFs have a neuron count similar to that of a biosex woman and FtMs have a neuron count similar to that of a biosex man.
Schizophrenia is a disorder of how neurons communicate, specifically through dopamine and glutamine, more specifically misfirings of these neurons.
While schizophrenia can be somewhat managed through medication, both typical and atypical antipsychotics have very varying success rates and tend to stop working after a while.
Tl;dr you're just some obese NEET that hasn't studied a thing since highschool and thinks he can get on his high horse with his imaginary neurology degree and dictate the ideal treatment better than actual professionals.
>>675494064
>Trans girls age even better than women
Yeah, well, that's just like your opinion, man.
>post some scientific evidence to back this up beyond "steady amount of estrogen"
>>675494244
good question given that 90% of children with gender-dismophia go on to be not trans at all.
>>675494117
When you're perfectly able bodied but believe that inside you are a beautiful disabled woman and a doctor should clip your spinal cord to paralyse you.
>>675494458
>Cisgendered men
fuck off to tumblr.
tl;dr this shit.
>>675494458
>better than actual professionals.
>better than people who make money ou of my misery
Fixed it for you
>>675474834
your missing something op.
trannies don't exist at all.
medical science can not turn a girl into a boy or a boy into a girl. these are just fucked in the head people that are thing to be something they aren't. the fact that you are thinking this much about "transgender" individuals shows their distortion of the facts is working.
>>675474834
nope
>>675493840
http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.5.6564
Here you go anon, actual scientific research backing up the claim that it's biological.
>>675494781
Of course anon, you know better because you read /pol/ infographics. And for reference, i'm a cis guy, i just happen to study neurology. It pisses me off to see random retards think they're hot shit and know what they're talking about when they haven't opened a single book on biology in their lives.
>>675494664
>hurrdurr cis trans what r u an sjw lol go back to tumblr
Cis and trans mean on the same side/on the opposite site. Just like in chemistry you have cis-trans isomerisms.
>>675495130
Hey guy, you missed some (You)s
>>675494536
>>675494170
>>675495301
None of that is in any way related to neurology.
>>675487350
Christ those fucking hands
>>675495425
>Gender isn't a social concept moron
>>675492195
Are you back-tracking now? Why not elaborate what you meant?
>>675474834
People too weak minded to go against gender roles so they change their gender? Okay kk
>>675495425
shhhhhhh anons a doctor confirmed
>>675495130
I am sorry, these idiots want to be stupid. I don't doubt some of them could actually be grappling with dysphoria, I know I was when I first found /b/ and you couldn't tell me shit because I was so lost and afraid I threw up a wall and didn't accept anything because I tried to maintain my lie to myself that I didn't want to be a girl. I am glad I sucked it up and went for it though. Denial is lame.
>>675495617
I'm the top poster, i'm not the bottom poster.
Two different people, anon.
>>675495130
>actual scientific research backing up the claim that it's biological.
Why is your condition then still classified as a mental disorder?
>>675495772
fair enough, my bad.
>>675495822
politics and christian voters
>>675494458
Oh im sorry, i forgot you know better than scientists.
-Dr. Paul R. McHugh,
>Dr. McHugh further noted studies from Vanderbilt University and London’s Portman Clinic of children who had expressed transgender feelings but for whom, over time, 70%-80% “spontaneously lost those feelings.”
>The pro-transgender advocates do not want to know, said McHugh, that studies show between 70% and 80% of children who express transgender feelings “spontaneously lose those feelings” over time. Also, for those who had sexual reassignment surgery, most said they were “satisfied” with the operation “but their subsequent psycho-social adjustments were no better than those who didn’t have the surgery.”
>“’Sex change’ is biologically impossible,” said McHugh. “People who undergo sex-reassignment surgery do not change from men to women or vice versa. Rather, they become feminized men or masculinized women. Claiming that this is civil-rights matter and encouraging surgical intervention is in reality to collaborate with and promote a mental disorder.”
>In the absence of an empirically grounded detailed theory of the mechanisms and processes of gender identity development, the available empirical evidence does not permit a categorical, universally valid statement that GIVs are or are not mental disorders. - From Mental Disorder to Iatrogenic Hypogonadism: Dilemmas in Conceptualizing Gender Identity Variants as Psychiatric Conditions
Heino F. L. Meyer-Bahlburg
>>675495617
>>675495772
Also the male and female brain aren't identical besides BTSc, not at all in fact, but BTSc is just one of the markers indicating a brain's biological sex.
>>675495822
Because it's a disorder, it's not the norm. Just like being born with only one arm is a physical condition, being born trans is a mental condition. And neither of them are things you can cure with any known medicine, you just have to find other ways to live with it. In transsexuality's case, HRT, SRS and FFS.
>>675495928
get fucked
politics loves trannys
steff-on-knee advised canadian goverment, usa lets teen boy lila perry into girls changing, uk puts violent tranny tara hudson into female prison
google steff-on-knee
politics loves you mad bastards
>>675474834
Transgenderism is largely biological and it is ingrained in the brain. But the changes began happening when there were still ancient tribes. It is VERY prevalent in Native American cultures and a lot of people treat transgender people badly but it's been around a long time, they just never went vocal about it until gays got rights.
>>675495928
You seem to be fairly educated, therefore, you should realize that that answer cannot be taken seriously. Also you manged to produce a single study, with albeit very interesting results, done on a very small scale. Also no aspect of RCT was used in their method. Therefore the groups were very strictly allocated. Does that mean their result are wrong- no. All that is certain that there seem to be a general consensus on the origin and causes for homosexuality, however, there is not enough data to conclude with the certainty you seem to have on the causes for transsexualism.
>>675496323
>neither of them are things you can cure with any known medicine
>known
because trannies get butthurt when people try to research a cure that doesnt amount to chopping your dick off and taking in hormones your body isnt meant to have in high amounts
>>675496323
yeah, so many physical undeniable markers, that's why we use therapy and feelings to diagnose for srs
>>675496416
>steff-on-knee
not a real trans person, he is an old fucking creepy man, real trans people pass
>>675496323
>Because it's a disorder, it's not the norm
Well that's obvious, however, the question here is the root cause for the disorder. Psychological or biological. Which I do understand are not mutually exclusive, however, there seems to be data pointing in strictly one or the other way, therefore contradicting
>>675474834
" Ah penis ah-so feminine!"
>>675496961
you're all just creepy men
it's like 20 guys in a mental ward thinking they're the president of the usa. they know the other 19 are mental but believe they are the REAL president.
>>675496961
>real trans people pass
No you dont, real life =/= the internet. IRL we can see your many hands, jaw, shoulders, and above all else, notice your voice. Just because heavy makeup and properly angled photos online pass doesnt mean you do irl. Your only saving grace is that there are ugly girls we can confuse you with.
>>675496215
Ahaha he actually invoked McHugh, the absolute madman. McHugh is one of the few outliers that loves to cling onto Blanchard and Bailey's theory of autogynephilia which has been discredited and is considered outdated by most of the professional field. On top of that he's a stereotypical right wing Christian that is anti-homosexuality and anti-abortion and bases his views on transsexuality on decades-old research instead of the much more recent and much more thorough research by Swaab et al. For reference, Dick Swaab is a legend in the field of neurology and used to be one of the leading scholars in the field. And while the part about gender dysphoria in children disappearing is true, HRT and SRS aren't offered to transgender children. They're put on puberty blockers, which preserve their body until they're 16 years old and then they can choose whether or not to transition.
>>675497189
You seem to misunderstand the difference between psychological and biological.
>>675496802
You know how you examine the size of the BTSc? Post-mortem examination of the brain.
>>675497189
Anon, they're one in the same. It's a disorder of the brain, there is no difference between something that's psychological and neurological. There is no ethereal mind that is not connected to your body/brain in some way, your brain IS your mind and a disorder of the brain is a disorder of the mind.
The question you're asking is whether or not it's hormonal or structural. And while there is some discussion there, the vast majority of studies point in the direction of structural.
>>675496709
Post literally any example of this happening.
>>675497836
This
>>675497903
>You know how you examine the size of the BTSc? Post-mortem examination of the brain.
works for me
>>675496704
If you're talking to the neurology student, that poster isn't me. But i can provide more studies, let me find a few that aren't behind paywalls.
Okay turns out most of them are behind paywalls but have them anyway, i'm sure you can find non-paywall versions somewhere if you're really interested.
http://www.journalofpsychiatricresearch.com/article/S0022-3956(10)00158-5/fulltext
http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/content/131/12/3132
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1053811909003176
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11826131
There are more studies than this, but they're either more of the same or more paywall articles.
>>675498046
Har har, very edgy anon.
>>675497836
Uh again have you heard a real trans person speak? Voice training is a thing moron. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EDRqPaB03I
>>675474834
I'm all for transgender people getting the surgery. They remove themselves from the gene pool.
>>675498672
>barks
>>675474834
Estrogen levels or substances that mimic them in men are also rising, from plastics in our food supply and estrogen from BC, dairy products and industrially farmed chicken eggs.
That aside though I don't think most transgendered males are any less strong of will or substance. Takes a stronger stomach then I have to exist wanting to put my dick anywhere near some big blokes honking hairy arsehole.
I just do what I do. I don't care what other people say, do, or think because at the end of the day I'm the only one I have to answer to.
And I just so happen to want to surgically alter my body to fit me better.
The thing that gets me is how so many trans people make it their defining characteristic as if their entire life revolves around just that one aspect of their life. Sure its important but its just one part of the whole, for me at least.
>>675499308
That isn't true at fucking all. If it was true I wouldn't need estrogen pills. I had my levels tested before hormones and had no estrogen in my body. You are fucking stupid to listen to alex jones.
>>675474834
Jesus christ, this is some of the stupidest shit I've ever read on /b/. That's fucking amazing. No, that's not how lithic and neo-lithic humans developed. I don't know if I want to squander the next 20 minutes of my life explaining the basics of hunter-gatherer society, agrarianism, matrilineal vs patrilineal culture, and why gender roles are entirely and demonstratably social rather than physiological. Especially given that /b/ is populated by low-functioning child-men with shit-tier RWA politics and a level of scientific ignorance not usually seen outside of cloistered theocracies.
>>675496704
Also, RCT would be useless in this situation. RCT is used for drug trials, not research into brain structure. And regarding the small sample size, this kind of research can only be done post-mortem which is bound to limit your options, especially when it comes to trans people.
>>675498676
you can transition and still have biological kids
>t. transmexican autist here
>>675500000
Dayumn son
>>675474834
Trannies are men trying to be women because they failed at being men.
>>675500000
WHAT A FUCKING WASTE
>>675500000
:DDD
>>675500000
EBIN GUINDS :DDDDDD
>>675500000
JEWS CONFIRMED
>>675500000
MELLY??
>>675500000
>>675499579
>No estrogen
Both sexes have estrogen in their system, same with testosterone. The volume and ratios just happen to be different for each (and on an individual basis). Even if you were a rare enough individual and produced no estrogen, your body would still convert excess testosterone into estrogen via aromatisation
>>675475199
I lost.
>>675500000
ayy lmao
Wait ten years for the robosexuals
>>675500000
Niggerology!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>675500503
I meant it was such a low level it is stupid to bring up. I had to take 8mg a day of estrogen pills + 200mg of T blocker just to start growing boobs and get curvy and soft.
>>675500000
Witnessed
>>675497903
>You know how you examine the size of the BTSc? Post-mortem examination of the brain.
because their examination of the BTSc in transgendered individuals is done post-mortem, doesnt that mean they are examing transgender brains that are more likely to have been on HRT for a sufficient amount of time? how can you be sure this btsc abnormality existed at inception and was not a product of the HRT?
>>675500000
witnessed
>>675500913
Look at the research report, man. They examined brains belonging to cis men, MtF that had transitioned and MtF that never transitioned. MtF showed female values, whether they transitioned or not.
>>675500772
I'd be a robot if I could. I'd be a robot waifu. I'm totally fine with that.
>>675500000
You win the internets
>>675474834
They just think a cock in the ass feels good
>>675474834
Sometimes kids are born without arms. They are just defective models. Doesn't mean they are bad people. Trannys are defective in the head.
>>675501219
im sorry if its already been posted here but could I have a link to that paper?
>>675474834
>Very early in the history of our species, at the dawn of time, we set roles out for men and women
Kill yourself OP...this is just factually wrong on like a billion levels...(also reading it gave me eye-cancer)
>>675475565
Why don't we let kids design aircrafts too? Kids can design aircrafts, why can't adults get it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7jENWKgMPY
so.....
is this a feminine penis thread? or a lady balls thread?
>>675482925
>>675502168
>lady balss thread
What happened to /b/?
>>675502168
More of a kill yourself and stream it faggot thread
>>675502520
y u no liek teh lady balls?
>>675500198
/thread
>>675500000
Today is fun
>>675476080
Beta detected.
>>675502816
I fucked a trap once and the stink was terrible, I would do it again though but with a condom on
>>675503215
jesus why didn't she just do an enema beforehand, what is wrong with you idiots. Before I did anal I always fasted and did an enema. Good thing with my vag I never need to do anal again to please a man.
>>675503215
Enjoy your AIDS
>>675474834
That makes some amount of since but mostly its over simplified and makes too many assumptions. If you look into some psychology you can fined detailed infoFormation as to why people in the feild think that transgender people is a real thing and why transition tends to be the best way to help them.
>>675474834
lorrrr
>>675475465
You mean allowing your child to dress how they want becuase it dosent fucking matter what clothes a 4 year old wears?
>>675503639
Guess it wasn't as much of a servant
>>675503736
Hopefully not but I do need to get tested lol
>>675504218
God damn libtards and your mental diseases