I just can't do it guys..
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Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
I just can't do it guys..
>>674719004
Brain structure ? Are you kidding me ?
X or Y, that´s it, every other "gender" is made up bullshit
refraining from natural instinct to kill my neighbor is a social construct too but i still abide by it
>>674719134
>>674719255
But how do I fix this bitches head.? One day its this, the next day it's that...
I can't take it!
>>674719255
good point
laws are social constructs
is rape really wrong or is the "rape is wrong" a social construct too ?
>>674719134
Fuck off stupid cis bitch, we aren't born as fixed genders
>>674719134
oh ere we fucking go fellas
>>674719506
i'm not going to sit here and promote rape because it's wrong but yes, refraining from the urge to rape is a construct
taking care of your kids is a construct
not stealing is a construct
>>674719649
>>674719004
It's just too complex a subject to be making solid conclusions just yet.
>>674719776
>not gonna promote rape
>admits rape is a social construct
el keko topo
>>674719826
Not really, the fact that literally every species of animal on earth has a dual concept of genders and that is that. Oh but no were different because what? We invented tumbr?
>>674719826
If you involve the word science or scientists into your reasoning, you can convince anyone
>>674719483
well, "gender" is the biological definition on which side you stand.
>>674719649
Bait ? Ok.
No we are born as fixed genders. X = male Y = female.
If you think you are female, but are not born as one, ok, I´m fine with this. But don´t mix it up with the term "gender", it is just your mindset.
>>674719776
hypocrite spotted on troll response, but you are still a fucking hypocrite
>>674719255
Good luck bro, we just got rid of our piece of shit neighbor. This is the first quiet day we have had in a year.
>>674720044
you mean xy = male and xx = female?
>>674720044
I agree but actually its XY=male XX=female
>>674720041
Trigender is a thing, meaning there's... three genders?
>>674719826
Lol
No, being overweight is not always completely unhealthy
But if you are a fat fuck and you think you're just as healthy as a normal person, than chances are you're well beyond the "not yet unhealthy" line
>>674719826
>cause it sounds too rich
no, if it sounded that rich then youd eat that too.
>>674719918
He's saying that even if gender is a social construct we should still deal with it, genius
>>674720160
>>674720186
4chan messing up with a typo, even if the person is serious for one time.
>>674720186
Talking about XY got me thinking about Pokemon and it reminded me of these cool new Pokemon genders.
>>674720194
>trying this hard
>>674720194
in mammals? I'm not talking about fish you dense fucker.
Found her facebook. It' a gold mine.
>>674719776
But could eating cereal be as bad as rape in a world where the construct was built anti breakfast
>>674720257
>>674720317
fuk yah that game gon b lit
>>674720044
No we are born as individuals free to be whomever we wish to be. That does not mean that a woman thinks she is male, it means a woman is a woman despite having male genitals.
>>674720297
taking the bait? it was a joke? either way it was still hypocritical.
>>674720592
>trying this hard still
>>674720592
Op here
Agreed.
Also this is first thread in 6 years :)
>>674720592
>>674720586
Here's the list of common genders. Collect them all!
genderfluidsupport.tumblr.com/gender/
Here's a rare I found, pic shown.
>>674720817
mfw
>>674719826
The studies indicate the cluster they observed was among overweight to mildly obese people. Not landwhales. Everyone who isn't retarded knows that "overweight" BMI isn't unhealthy. It's just a warning sign that you don't want to put on any more.
Also, the actual studies don't say overweight people have lower mortality rates in general. They say, for those people who get seriously ill, thinner people had a higher risk of death.
>>674720804
Whats with this reddit dank meme? Cant you see /b/ IS reddit for more than 2 years already? Whats the point of going back to the same place ?
female = vagina, XX chromosome
male = penis, XY chromosome
you can change your gender identity, but you will ALWAYS be more male/female, no matter whether you chop your tits/dick off.
i am all for transgender being a thing, some people just aren't happy you know. but don't go hating us cis genders just because we are happy with what we are born as, that in itself should be classed as discrimination
>>674719004
>>science proves something
>>shown in click-bait article
Yeah, okay.
>>674721028
oh look a newfag trying to show how old he is by highlighting he's been here for 2 years. /b/ has always been shit.
>>674721054
The rare person is cross-wired, getting the wrong set of behavioural instincts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder#Biological_causes
I love how it's offending nowadays to be fine with your born gender/sex.
I mean people call Trannies delusional etc etc but at least most of them understand the fact that there are two genders. I don't understand why they get lumped in with people who think there's some magical in-between gender where gender dimorphism exist.
>>674721028
This is bait
>>674721228
:(
We are all /b/ros,
Anon-desu!!! (~.~)
>>674721243
This can also be true, however their biological identity will be that of their genitals. This would just be an unfortunate case. Like i said i am all for transgender being a thing, i'm not ignorant and can understand it, but i am not for hate against cis individuals purely out of transgender envy
>>674721331
Edit: Some magical in-between gender where gender dimorphism *doesn't* exist*
>>674721331
Because that's how they're starting to describe themselves
Then they want to be called their own special pronouns (usually they)
I'm fine with trannies too but if i get trapped, bad shit is going to happen
>>674721631
It exists as a mental illness, sure
>>674721661
And I'm sorry but i don't care about your pronouns, I'm calling it as i see it
>>674721755
Delusion isn't a mental illness anon, just stupidity.
>>674721609
Cis haters are just bigots. Ignore them. They think they represent their people, but they do not.
>>674721054
>genderfluidsupport.tumblr.com/gender/
mfw they will eventually be able to rewrite chromosomes
>>674721813
I agree completely, I do the same.
>>674721661
I have Transgender friends who are cringy to be around but not unbearable because they understand that they don't look like their desired gender yet. Also, in my experience Trannies generally tell you what they are before it gets to the bedroom. Most of them are decent people like that.
>>674719004
> Implying societies are not a result of environment+biology
>>674719004
The same pile of wood could be used to build a fence or a box. What's the point here?
>>674719004
Got to love the /pol/-tier article making up total bullshit over one simple fact.
Also, the brain might be the same when we are born, but things such as hormones will influence it during our lifetime. Just like men and women are both born with a smooth chin, that doesn't make beards a social construct.
Who cares? Why do you even pay attention to this? I don't have a Facebook or any of that shit and i literally encounter none of this garbage, ever, in my day to day life.
The shit you choose to crawl through is the shit you choose to take, anon.
>>674722177
I've gotta remember this one
>>674722272
manspreading is illegal to NY.
Sociology courses in my country are based on economics, history, mathematics, criminology etc. My understanding is that in the US sociology is a fancy word for "gender studies" these days
PC police has invaded everything.
Anon I think we can run away from the stench, only so long, before the shitstorm hits us
Me not being an attack helicopter is merely an anatomical construct.
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>>674722256
Best logical comparison, best comment of 2016, someone give this man a fucking purple heart medal.
>>674722667
Lol, good thing i will most likely never set foot in NY
America dumbing down its people to turn them into satisfied idiotic babies. Prove me wrong.
>>674722841
I'm not sure if it's this or if they're just trying to breed conflict
>>674722667
Read this really quick. Thought mansplaining was illegal.
>>674722085
>tumblr
Tumblr bullshit stating so called "facts" again? mfw but No face? In the trash it goes.
>>674719004
I can't understand this, i mean... who cares ? Just another "society subject" whith peoples on both sides arguing about nothing. Boredom is killing us.
>>674719004
if we're all born as blank slates then the idea of a trans person being in the wrong body is flawed. People who then want to mutilate themselves to change 'gender' are therefore just mentally ill
>>674723380
hearty chuckly followed by questioning if serious or not
>>674722085
that doesn't mean that the whole body will be built completely new - and if we ever reach the technology to do that so snowflake tumlrettes can actually switch gender an invention way before that will cure mental disorder such as sexual confusion
>>674719503
this...
the pic of the tranny in the OP thinking this is a good thing is flawed, it actually means trannies are just very confused/mental people
>>674723725
Well genderfluid isn't real so all of the shit they are writing is made up. So it's classified as tumblr bullshit
>>674723834
no there wont, there will be a "cure for ignorance" long before they fix the actual problems.
whites permanantly oppresed, males permanently disadvantaged, and straight people will be a taboo.
>>674723834
That's fucking stupid, then they won't kill themselves and the world will be overpopulated with these abominations because natural selection was avoided
>>674723987
I dont know what the fuck you are even talking about.
All I said was in the future we will be able to rewrite chromosomes and dna.. just like 100 years ago we couldnt make a fake vagina out of a penis or a fake penis out of a leg..
What the fuck does that have to do with tumblr?
>>674724029
>"cure for ignorance"
So you're implying that you beeing gay is in no way strange or fucked up? That it's completely normal?
>>674721243
>Disorder.
>>674719004
That article is more junk "science" from some sjw fucktard. It was disproven back in 2011.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/headshrinkers-guide-the-galaxy/201108/mythbusters-ii-we-do-not-begin-blank-slates
>>674720592
doesn't really work like that otherwise there would be similar numbers of 'women' with male genitalia as with female genitalia. In reality there are relatively few with male genitalia.
the research shows you're not born into the wrong body if everyone is a blank slate
a woman is a woman if she has a woman's body and the same goes for a man - people who think they're in the wrong body are just suffering from a mental illness
>>674724201
The thing that was written was on tumblr. Although we may be able to make the technology should we?
>>674724272
god damn you are stupid.
I put that in quotation because thats what the idiots over at tumblr call it.
youre either memeing miraculously or trolling miserably
>>674719503
Born as the "wrong gender?" Who claims that?
Isn't it "wrong sex" rather than gender?
>>674724504
excuse me, i'm retarded
>>674719483
Simply tell her that she misunderstood the post. We are born male or female but every gender is a construct, so her being a trans kin faggot is only in her head.
>>674724371
this is somewhat true, however it isn't really an illness. it isn't considered "normal" for an individual to be transgender, the hard wiring in their brain hasn't met the biological norm. However with it being 2016 i don't think people should be discriminated for it, if someone wants to identify as a man/woman then let them.
it's just like being gay, and considering half of this forum is, y'all really shouldn't have a problem
>no i'm not transgender
>I sexually identify as a skeleton
>Tumblr can't explain that
Remember when this shit used to be a funny mistake and not a sign of mental illness?
>>674724415
>should we
We shouldnt have made about 70% of the things we have made.. that question has never stopped us before.
This world is going to crash and burn.
think of it this way, only 50-60 years ago the cure for childs adhd was a lobotomy performed by strapping the child to a table and rammin an ice pick through the corner of his eyes and wiggling it around in his brain to fuck up the front part of his brain.
only 40 years later scientists are fucking around with dna and releasing modified dna into the wild. Who knows what kind of damage has been done. In 10 generations will the modifed dna still be able to reproduce? In 200 years will the screwed with dna speed up evolution to make tomatos taste completly different?
>>674724882
>2016
>not recognizing that the third reich is the superior gender
>>674724710
now I feel bad for calling you stupid..
>>674719483
Why does it bother you this much that she's this retarded. Laugh at her with like-minded friends. Or, better yet, defriend her. Because someone isn't really your friend if you honestly call them a bitch and can't stand them. If youre too scared and beta to defriend, then block her posts from your wall so you don't see them.
In other words, grow the fuck up you whiny little bitch. These gender bender cunts feed off resistance and confrontation to empower their persecution complex. Let it fucking go. It will all backfire the more and more these bathroom gender identity laws make real women afraid to use the bathroom and changing room at the gym. And itll happen give it three high profile rape cases and this shit will dissapear
>>674724952
>In 10 generations will the modifed dna still be able to reproduce? In 200 years will the screwed with dna speed up evolution to make tomatos taste completly different?
>>674724985
so much this.
now the only question is what to do with the other less desirable genders
>>674725171
I think you know what must be done.
>>674725057
non-literally
>>674719134
What about hermaphrodites, people with genetic disorders where they have XXY, XYY, XXX, etc. chromosomes, people who have XY chromosomes but develop as females due to androgen insensitivity, and so on?
Even if it's made up bullshit, why does that matter?
>>674724952
Yeh I understand all that, I'm just saying should we give these people what they want? Should we make it that easy to physically and mentally become another gender? Sure right now you can chop your dick off and take tablets but that's not the same. Giving them this means they have won, it means gender is nothing, it's something that can be changed at will
>>674725304
You say that, but I'm pretty sure it's literally true.
>>674725167
what does this reaction image even mean
>>674725308
It matters because a tiny minority demand that the majority bend over backwards to accomodate their made up bullshit, and then claim discrimination when we laugh at them. And people listen to the word "discrimination" almost as serioiusly as they do "rape".
>>674725421
This
>>674724800
It kinda is an illness because it causes distress, which is not entirely due to social stigma.
>>674725421
>It matters because a tiny minority demand that the majority bend over backwards to accomodate their made up bullshit
Do they? Is allowing them to get reassignment surgery and hormone therapy, be called the pronouns, and not have people stigmatise them asking so much?
>>674725623
They are asking alot, they are asking everyone to accept them for being mentally ill. Everyone else plays the hand they are dealt but these fuckers can't deal with it because they can't let the fact go that they are something they don't want to be. I mean I've always wanted to be a helicopter but am I stupid enough to go through with it?
wtf is wrong with you americans ::''''') never change
>>674725340
The world can be changed at will.
what defines male and female?
what even defines human? an arrangement of atoms? eventually the structure of anything will be able to be rewritten at will. the main problem is getting use to the fact that things are different. Im not happy about it and I sure as fuck wont breed with a girl that was a guy. But I really dont see a problem with letting people do whatever they want. I think we need limits, like if you have a penis you cant go into the girls room.
If some dude wants to turn his penis inside out, thats his buisness.. just dont expect me to call him a girl.
on another note, the science behind it intersts me, honestly Id love to know what its like to be on estrogen just to see first hand how the brain functions differently.
>>674724800
>it's just like being gay
The main difference (to me) is that gays can still be a productive part of society because they don't nessesarily rub it into everyone's faces that they'll suck a fat dick later that night. I personally don't care if someone likes to dress up to get fucked, but i do care that i'm expected to applaud that someone likes to dress up to get fucked.
It's just the difference between beeing gay and beeing a faggot - or beeing black and beeing a nigger.
>>674725910
How far is too far though? Why should everyone get what they want? We need limits but you give these fuckers an inch and they'll take the mile by saying shit like "Uhhh I identify as a xe" or you get called transphobic because you don't date x-men (not the movie haha). They'll always want more, everyone does. It's never enough
>>674719004
Who gives a fucking shit? Like seriously,who fucking cares? People can call themselves whatever the fuck they want, I don't care. You think you're a transgendered owl? Whatever, I don't care. You think you're a fucking bear? Good for you. Who the fuck cares?
I feel like everyone slaps gender on the emd of everything because of memes from putting bender in front of every thing
>>674725623
It's morally unethical to allow people to mutilate themselves due to a mental illness. But then morals are a social construct so idklol
>>674725813
>they are asking everyone to accept them for being mentally ill
And that is a lot to you? What about people with schizophrenia or depression; should we stigmatise them too because they're mentally ill?
>Everyone else plays the hand they are dealt but these fuckers can't deal with it because they can't let the fact go that they are something they don't want to be
Well, they're suffering, something people generally try to avoid. I don't get what's hard to understand that they want people to accept them. Some might be unreasonable, expecting people to know their preferred gender automatically, but the trans people I've met are not like that. I have a feeling you maybe don't know any trans people IRL and your only exposure has been to morons from tumblr.
>>674726469
>you shouldn't be allowed to drink beer because of your delusion that beer isn't that dangerous
*insert random statistic*
>atheists: 0
>muslims: 1
>>674726597
>>should we stigmatise them too because they're mentally ill?
>implying that doesn't happen
>>674726705
I know it does, I want to know whether anon stigmatises all mentally ill people or just those with gender identity disorder.
>>674726617
>implying implications
>>674719483
It's simple dude,just beat the living shit out of her with a hammer.your defense will simply be that she isn't female so the "don't hit a female" bullshit won't stand.
>>674726249
Agreed, these other types piss me off. Just wear the dress and shut the fuck up. literally nobody besides rednecks give a fuck.
>>674726864
But yea, that's kind of what you were saying. Think of "dressing up and parading arround like a gigant faggot" as drinking beer. Some people enjoy it, and they're willing to suffer for their pleasure.
>>674726597
Ofcourse everyone excepts the others because they have legitimate problems not just feelings that cannot be let go. They will never be fully accepted because it's just not right.
I don't know about suffering, that's a bit of a stretch considering people with depression are legitimately suffering with living day to day versus these people who can go on with life and feel out of place and discomfort. Even some normal people aren't accepted but because these people have become something else they should straight away become accepted? Too be honest, I've never met any but I'm just against the idea.
>>674721243
and every 16 year old girl who's desperate to be unique has this, you're right
This thread is full of people who have learned all this stuff in just the last two years.
>>674725623
No, its the 195lb 6' men with 5oclock shadows wanting to go into the womens bathroom because they dress up in panties at home
Theres already news reports of this shit happening at gyms where these gender itenty bullshit laws have passed
>>674719004
>nothing is real
>everything is fake
>feminism is fake
>woman logic
>>674727447
And? They get thrown out and life goes on.
>>674719004
The study these idiots are citing just says that you can't be 100% sure which sex a brain belongs to by looking at an MRI, but still, even just from that you will be right most of the time if you know your shit.
Despite that though, male and female brains are quite different and start acting different in the whomb - there are countless studies about this. Not to mention our different sex hormones.
>>674727591
Haha, if only
>This is transphobic
>Is it because you aren't accepting me?
Then the place gets in a shitload of trouble.
>>674727658
Also our DNA and genitals of course.
>>674719004
Science is easily bought with enough money. I don't take what these fags have to say serious no more. Be your own man and learn to judge the world intelligently through your own self.
If they continue to look for it as hard as they can and push it eventually they are going to think it's truth. So it doesn't surprise me they reached this conclusion.
>>674725308
>what about retards and the deformed?
I think you answer your own question there
>>674727658
This would be like saying you can identify sex based on someone's stomach lining. It doesn't prove anything, but it's still being paradoxically used as proof.
>>674727141
Are you sure people with GID don't have "legitimate problems"? Are you sure it's not a delusion in the same vein as a paranoid schizophrenic who is unerringly convinced that his arm doesn't belong to him and needs to be removed?
>that's a bit of a stretch considering people with depression are legitimately suffering with living day to day versus these people who can go on with life and feel out of place and discomfort
GID usually causes depression. A male-to-female tranny, for example, has to look at the dick that they are sure doesn't belong there every time they piss, take a shower, etc. and it reminds them that they don't have the body their brain is telling them they should have. This can cause pretty severe anguish. Suicide rates among people with GID are pretty damn high.
>Too be honest, I've never met any but I'm just against the idea.
Okay. I don't really care, just don't understand why some people do. But I had a close friend in school who is trans, and from the age of about 6 we all knew he wanted to be a she, so it's always been kinda normal to me.
>>674727591
The law in Seattle actually protects them from being thrown out. A man can go walk around with his dick out in a YMCA bathroom with a bunch of little kids in Seattle and not only are they protected by the law, but now they can probably sue if anyone judges them for it. "Progress" is great isn't it?
>>674727591
Now they don't get thrown out. They can't. They tell the police and the operators they identify as a woman and the law's hands are tied because these gender identity laws let you use whatever bathroom your professed gender aligns with.
So now we have naked men with their cocks flapping about in front of women and girls in changing rooms violating their moral sensibilities and nothing can stop them from doing it
>>674727931
What? What are you trying to point out with that analogy?
>>674727937
>Suicide rates among people with GID are pretty damn high.
Good thing, too. We need less mental instability in our population.
>>674727753
I always hear this idiotic rhetort from people about transgender people and the bathroom. Do you know what happens in the women's bathroom? They piss and shit in stalls. Who cares what bathroom people use? Why do we even have gender segregated bathrooms anyways?
>>674728171
>Why do we even have gender segregated bathrooms anyways?
If you can't figure that out on your own then why the fuck do you think anyone should listen to your dipshit opinion?
>>674728146
That the lack of information or conclusion of evidence doesn't mean that there isn't evidence that supports their idea and is used to support of an idea or agenda
>>674728171
You know that there are people who masturbate to people pissing and shitting right?
If we're going to let men in locker rooms with women and little girls why bother making pedophelia illegal, or voyeuristic laws illegal? Let's just allow any psycho to walk around the streets flapping around his dick.
"Progress" is so fucking regressive. The idea of being civilized has gone to shit. We are living in sodom and Gomorrah.
>>674728171
>Bait
>>674728388
Because people can't keep their dicks and pussies away from each other.
DUHHHHHHHH.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS401CI7TZg
>>674728409
What lack of information? There is a ton of information proving the difference between the brains of the genders. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>674727937
Isn't what we base gender on purely anatomical? The rest is just cultural.
It seems like some sort of mental illness >schizo >not muh arm >not muh penis
We should be working to cure this mental mutation.
But then again I don't care about you or your life as long as it doesn't affect me. Don't force me to treat you like your entitled to something and I won't treat you like The mentally handicapped individual you are.
>>674727930
Any girl you've fucked or wanted to fuck may have male chromosomes and you would probably never know.
>>674728151
Why? Humans suck, the more of them who suffer, the better.
>>674728171
To prevent voyeurism, assault and rape, I assume. Some places where I live have unisex bathrooms and it's not a problem, but those are high traffic places where it would be pretty hard to rape someone and get away with it. You gotta consider the places where there might just be one woman and one cross-dresser or tranny who may or may not be violently inclined. Then again, that being the case, if a tranny could get away with it, so could a dude.
>>674728146
It means:
>Born with penis: male
>Born with vagina: female
Who gives a fuck what handful of similarities there are between genders physically. Everybody knows that women are different to men, but these idiots refuse to accept it.
>>674728409
Our brains literally start behaving differently in the whomb. Before we're even born our different sex chemicals start forming the male or female gender and countless differences that make us our gender. If you want to be a faggot and dress up like a girl that's fine with me, but implying that you are literally a girl is delusional and retarded.
>>674728464
Do you know gay people exist? Some of them are into scat too. Does it bother you that a gay person might be sitting in the stall next to you jacking off to the sounds off you shitting? Sometimes, when you're in a locker room, you might be in the same room with a gay guy, who might be getting off to you changing. Should gay people be banned from using the locker rooms and bathrooms of they same gender?
>>674725308
Those are what we call "mistakes of nature."
>>674728771
Oh, I thought you were trying to argue in the other direction.
Yea well these idiots are trying to imply penis and vagina is not enough so I'm pointing out why that's ridiculous.
>>674725308
Those are sick people, and if not for modern civilization, would probably die with the rest of the mutants.
>>674728779
Yes.
>>674727937
I really don't care about these people to be honest, sure they have problems. But everyone else does and doesn't get special treatment for it. We shouldn't be forced to be nice to them, we shouldn't be forced to give them what they want and we shouldn't be forced to accept it just to make them feel good. The fact is that the suicide rate thing is natural selection, people who aren't mentally capable of dealing with the situation who take the easy way out. I may have not known any people with GID but I've know many people with depression and they were suffering, but they were silent, they wouldn't use it to get things and wouldn't tell people forcing it down their throats. If these people didn't want anything and were quiet about it I wouldn't give two fucks. But they aren't
>>674719004
that means that being transsexual is literally a mental illness because there is no guy/girl brain in the wrong body
>>674728681
The entire argument about voyeurism makes no sense. Gay people exist. How much gay rape happens because they are using the same bathrooms?
>>674729078
I see your point. We should burn gays at the stake so they aren't masturbating in our locker rooms.
>>674729078
It's not the same thing though. That's just another dick in the locker room. Every man sees their dick their whole life.
Bullsheit. This conversation ended many years ago with scientists whose dicks weight 10kg:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer
>>674729383
With the invention of the internet, now they see breasts and vaginas every day too. Not once when I was taking a shit have I thought, gee, I sure would like to interact with a female right now.
>>674729616
Your not everyone faggot
>>674728638
>We should be working to cure this mental mutation.
People are, but right now there is no treatment that works. So in the mean time, why not treat them like people?
I have no idea what the rest of your post is getting at btw.
>>674728797
>>674728923
Point? I don't understand why you care. I don't need an excuse to hate people.
>>674728999
>everyone else does and doesn't get special treatment for it
>we shouldn't be forced to give them what they want
Is someone forcing you to do the surgery? It's an elective procedure; doctors do it for profit.
>The fact is that the suicide rate thing is natural selection
So? You're not gonna be alive in 100,000 years when humans are significantly different from now, why do you care?
> I've know many people with depression and they were suffering, but they were silent
That's because depressed people tend to be apathetic, self-loathing, unmotivated, ashamed and socially withdrawn (I have pretty bad depression btw).
>they wouldn't use it to get things and wouldn't tell people forcing it down their throats
I know depressed/personality-disordered people who do things like that, and I know trannies who don't. You can't really generalise.
> If these people didn't want anything and were quiet about it I wouldn't give two fucks. But they aren't
Well, aside from the tumblrinas, all they generally want is to be allowed to have surgery and hormones, have people use their preferred pronouns and not hate them for being different. I really don't see what the big deal is.
>>674729078
>The entire argument about voyeurism makes no sense.
I agree, but that's probably what people are thinking when they say MtFs shouldn't be allowed into women's bathrooms.
>Gay people exist.
They sure do.
>How much gay rape happens because they are using the same bathrooms?
I have no idea.
>>674720817
I wonder if all these new identities complete with flags have emerged because patriotism and identifying with institutions is now seen as wrong, but there's still an urge to belong to a nation/kingdom/tribe etc.
>>674729758
Don't force me to treat someone special just because they think they are. Its the difference between someone who is gay and someone who promotes the fact they are gay.
>>674729712
I know, but most people aren't going to be jacking off to the sounds of potential females taking craps. The idea of gender neutral bathrooms probably isn't going to lead to a rape epidemic. And since most people aren't into scat, it probably isn't going to lead to a rash of bathroom masturbators.
>>674730007
Sounds likely to me.
>>674730032
I don't understand. They're not asking to be treated specially. MtFs want to be treated like women, FtMs like men. I think you are still conflating tumblr trannies with IRL trannies, which is understandable because you don't know any IRL ones, but take my word for it, most are not like that.
>>674720041
>Every species of animal on earth
Ehhh asexuality happens in basal species, binary fission and shit. Don't put much stock into it, I'm an autistic biologist and had to correct you.
The motor and regulator need to be replaced for one of my car windows. When I called the dealership to inquire about cost, I was quoted nearly a thousand dollars. When a male friend called the dealership a few minutes later and inquired the same thing, he was quoted a mere $350. It's disgusting that as a woman, not only is there a wage gap, but in this instance I'm expected to pay more than double what a man would have been charged.
Gender bias is real. It's nice to give our minds a break and hope that it will just stay in a sphere of theoretical thought, but, let's not kid ourselves, systemic oppression trickles down to occurrences in our daily lives. It's not everywhere but it can be anywhere.
*Bright side* The first words out of my partner's mouth when he heard of the discrepancy: "We're not paying those sexist fuckers a dime."
>>674730804
>>674719004
Of course we started as blank slates. Then we developed into either males of females.
Saying that gender doesn't exist because we started out genderless is like saying that multicellular organisms don't exist because they started out as single cells.
>>674730964
Boom, headshot.
>>674730964
le ebin reddit
>>674720041
every other species on the planet also never walked on the moon. Human brains are more sophisticated than any other animal, does it really surprise you that their social aspects would be more complex than that of other animals?
>>674720959
I actually believe what we consider "overweight" to actually be healthy weight, from an evolutionary perspective. "Overweight" is what happens when you fulfill all your nutritional requirements and enough to tide you over in a time of low resources, which is what animals strive for in raw evolutionary terms. It makes perfect sense that someone with an extra 20 pounds of fat to burn off if they have to is someone who is at the peak of what their biology is designed for.
>>674731160
But they never did, friend. Babies only start to exist when 2 single cells meet and combine their DNA. Humans were never single celled. So it's different.
>>674730804
there is no wage gap
if there was, women would get more work than men because they would be cheaper to hire. it's literally illegal to pay someone les because of their race or gender. my mothers boss did this to her while she was pregnant and she sued him, and he got fired. there is a misunderstanding. men work more than most women and therefore earn more than them on average. women have on average les paying jobs than men, they would not be paid differently because of their gender. that would be illegal
>>674725308
>hermaphrodites
There is no such thing as human hermaphrodites, even if you got defect and have a dick and a cunt, only one of them is actually functional.
>people with genetic disorders where they have XXY, XYY, XXX, etc. chromosomes, people who have XY chromosomes but develop as females due to androgen insensitivity, and so on?
Sex isn't determined by chromosomes, it's determined by the SRY gene. The reason why almost all males have XY is because the gene is almost always located in the Y chromosome.
So, no. There is only male or female, nothing else.
>>674719826
Okay, whoever wrote those articles is spewing some bullshit.
>>674730804
what they are doing is literally illegal and you can sue them for fraud. there is no wage gap either, that is also fraud and illegal.
>pro tip, record the calls before suing so you have evidence
>>674720592
>a woman is a woman
>despite having a dick
Thanks for the laugh, m80.
Wait, I thought sex was what you were born as (genetically) and gender was what you want to be (what you identify as, i guess)
>>674721054
>us CIS gendered
"Us normal people"
FTFY
>>674719004
>blank slate theory proven true
I'll take "Things that never happened" for 500.
>>674735493
Sex is the chromosomal identity. (so XX female, XY Male)
Gender is the psychological mindset. In most of the West it's binary male/female but many Asian cultures have 3 and some up to 5
>>674722256
if 0 biological women grew facial hair your post would have a good point
>>674735518
what, do you hate latin terminology? its more scientific.
>>674735920
>Gender is the psychological mindset
Stop pretending you didn't just make this up in the last year or two.
And come up with a new word instead of co-opting an existing word.
>>674734778
the ledbetter act was based on a recent case where a woman worked the same for the same job and was paid less in our lifetimes, so obviously its not just a misunderstanding
So this is 2016 huh.
Oh god what the fuck happened. Where did we go wrong...
>>674719134
/thread
>>674734941
holy crap anon , you do know a lot
>>674736296
all words are made up and the internet is an artificial construct so you should resume being a normal human by ceasing to use transintellectual things like technology
>>674719004
I identify as a traffic cone
>>674736766
so if genes naturally create a body, and your belief is that they should be artificially killed by society if they do not meet your satisfaction
how is that not an artificial social construct again?
>>674719762
If you are arguing that any other gender other than x or y isnt fucking retardrd bullshit i will literally rape you.
>>674737035
"normal human"
more like inhumane fascist
>>674736309
Interesting read
>>674736309
the analysis of the data wasn't completely controlled for
women make more per hour in similar jobs prior to 26
then women make less due to:
>not staying with a company long enough to get time based wage increases
>taking unpaid leave more frequently
>being more likely to quit with out cause
>seeking jobs based on personal satisfaction instead of income
>being less willing than men to ask for a raise
when all these are accounted for, you get wage parity for people over 26 and women making more prior to that
this isn't even bringing into account that men are expected to:
>pay for more dates than women
>pay more on a date than a woman
>register for the draft or pay $250 000 and/or spend 5 years in prison
>expected to support their wife and children
>more likely to get an alimony judgement against them
>more likely to be required to pay more in child support than their ex-wife
>>674724289
Yes, and the treatment for the disorder sometimes is to transition.
>>674737376
the ledbetter case implies otherwise
>>674727931
Please go back to tumblr.
>>674737628
>posts in a thread implying that science knows better than the law
>claims that the law knows better than science
>>674737010
never said it had to be killed.
those genes created a mistake that cannot naturally reproduce itself.
it happens in nature all the time. humans just coddle them for some reason because we think 'we're superior' to the other animals.
>>674737006
how do you feel about attack helicopters?
>>674724029
Good fantasy, 7/10 would fap again
>>674720041
I was reading that orangutans rape when they are low on the social hierarchy, and forced sex is a measure taken when not freely given. The female only has sex with the old alphas, so the young orangutans rape. The message i took from that is "natural" yet not "right" not exactly wrong, but not the best way to go about procreating. Either way im pretty sure female orangutans have a way of shutting that whole thing down.
>>674730964
Would love some sauce on that.
>>674737798
until a mistake that can replicate is produced and destroyed by eugenics, im assuming.
genes and biology isnt as simple as youd like it to be
>>674737798
>cannot naturally reproduce itself
not always true tho
>>674737773
im saying the ledbetter case happened, she didnt have a baby she didnt quit she didnt work bad or part time. she was praised by management and passed over for raises year after year.
>>674720466
>>674721228
Yeah what happened to murder mysteries and Spiderman combo breakers
>>674721883
Delusions is actually a major sign of mental illness
I want to spit on this womans face, preferably in front of someone close to her like children, who will then question why, and I will then explain to them how their mother is the living definition of cancer.
>>674738642
anon is delusional about the significance of delusions anon.
>>674723715
I agree, but explain to me how its flawed? Couldn't they just argue they want to reroll because they didnt get the right gender? Blank slate until they got the wrong gender, right?
>>674738264
1 data point does not a trend make
the data says that she is an outlier, not the norm
>>674738041
true. but if you were to start popping out babies with clubbed feet and misshapen head and arms, you'd know something went wrong somewhere.
>>674738264
maybe she was just a cunt
>>674719004
"Science finally..."
Stop right there. Your bias is showing hardcore.
>>674719004
My dick not a social construct
>>674739194
It's flawed because they aren't inherently meant to be anything and thus what they are now is what they ended up being. So they can't complain about being the wrong gender if the gender they are now is the one their life has made them.
>>674726240
/thread
There's an awful lot of niggers and faggots out there...
Think it's time for a purge.
>>674733172
Biology isnt social. It is scientific fact.
>>674738025
>im assuming.
I'm assuming that not everyone in this thread is a genetics expert, so I'm keeping it simple.
>>674739420
So they are just operaring on learned bebaviors? I cant understand, other than attention seeking behavior, why people try to change their sex/gender.
>>674739658
sounds like you desperately want classical physics to explain quantum mechanics
DUURR NO ITS SIMPLE EARTH IS FLAT, THE SUN REVOLVES AROUND US AND MEN HAVE HUGE DICKS AND AND HAIR AND WOMEN HAVE TINY PUSSIES AND NO HAIR DONT U KNOW SCIENCE.??
>>674736766
what if you hate all sex in general, and don't care about all that gender crap, what are you then?
>>674739787
it is attention seeking behavior. sex and love is attention, so you necessarily have to engage in attention seeking behavior no matter who you are.
if their behavior offends your delicate sensibilities treat it like cyberbullying and close your eyes/walk away from the computer
The internet lets a lot of lost and directionless souls find labels to project their own shortcomings on.
As I understood it the structure of male and female brains is different and trans people's brains scan the same as the their 'trapped' gender.
At the same time there's a bunch of attention seeking fuckwads and closet homosexuals looking for excuses to feel special.
>>674721192
I just wormed my way through to the real article that is actually published in a peer reviewed journal. All is say is that when adjusted for brain size, the hippocampus of men and women are basically the same.
It doesn't say genders are a fucking social construct.
>>674719004
>claims to have scientific evidence stating all brains are the same making all gender meaningless
>still uses the term "cis"
>>674739928
wow, so angry. this subject touch a nerve, did it?
>>674740298
no u
>>674740404
but what am I angry about?
>>674736766
>>674739405
You guys forgot the best one
>>674740776
fuck, i didn't know i could identify as a trans-am.
>>674740776
I identify as an Apache attack helicopter
>>674741046
STOP FUTURE-RAPING ME, CIS-BIFRO
>>674740900
settle down. have a banana.
>>674719004
Oh, look, someone just slaps a fucking screen shot up of an article claiming gender is a social construct and we're expected to believe it. Was this so-called scientific study legitimate? Was it peer-reviewed? Be skeptical, use critical thinking, don't be intellectually lazy.
>>674741173
no u
>>674738018
>2016 still needs sauce for something that is 3 words in google.
Just face it, feminism is cancer to society, anyone who can't see it don't deserve my time.
>>674741482
your ability to refute and offer counterpoints to your point of view is beyond staggering.
>>674740011
>male=female
>other species dont have gender roles
literally every species have gender roles and ahve evolved to do them as well as they possibly can
what is this bitch talking about?
lol u mad?
trolled~!
>>674730964
how much money does death at work equal? 0?
wow what a great infographic
>>674741891
like the slugs who can change their gender sorry socially construct their gender if they need to reproduce, its natural i mean artificial
>>674720317
Diurnalgender here, praise the sun every day.
>>674719004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kluNKscgQb0&ebc=ANyPxKr34MKeXCM3CnwnStH_za0oBoKDVbVuNGsapmOOdNARkvPDnzrUUIL0DLQ68GsdBFPyRb2HoUzL_TQb73wRlDci2PPeMA
i think 4chans betas are just concerned people will mistake them for women if they dont look like dwayne the rock johnson, thats why theyre so dead set on enforcing such a rigid social heirarchy
>>674742372
so if you want to start splitting hair
with my post i meant those species that didnt have an ability to change their sex almost at will
do we have that ability?
>>674743371
we have the ability to develop that technology and thankfully it will develop regardless of what you or other 4chan bigots dislike
>>674743676
go away troll, i thought you were someone who didnt revolt to using personal attacks and generalization
>>674743913
youre the revolting one
>>674743913
who's trolling? its bigoted to insist on a transnormative state that infringes on radical individuals who arent causing strife or victimization.
>>674743371
Are humans a sexually monomorphic species?
According to tumblr - yes. According to science and biology- no.
>>674744447
science cant agree on climate change either
>>674744447
lol tumblr, the monolithic agency with exactly one opinion from its single user
>>674719004
>>674744447
why are you replying to me when you are agreeing with me?
unless you meant to say it to this >>674742372 guy
>>674719004
"I read it on facebook, so it has to be true!"
