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Knowing what we know about health, annoyance, cost and danger, why do people start smoking in 2016?

It's not exactly easy. You have to struggle past your first few, it's a painful, dissatisfying and rewardless experience. But people persevere through the pain and shame and discomfort to force an unnatural addiction to cigarettes. An addiction that most smokers can never conquer for the next 70 years.

Why?
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>>674619018
On my 4th day without a cig; off the patches and down to one or two pieces of gum per day. I feel better than I have in years & im getting over a cold lmao! Started smoking 9 years and 10 months ago; almost a full decade. Best decision I ever made was to quit.
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>>674619018
>>674619018
>cuz a mouth fedora is not dangerous lolz
>cuz we are the kewl kids
>ebryone is doing it anon.
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>>674619018
It'll just kill me sooner.
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>>674619018
why do non smoke fags care that smoke fags are dying? I dont understand this
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>>674619018

The real answer is because no single cigarette/bong hit is going to kill you. The danger lies in making them a habit. Decades of smoking are going to kill you. But damages stemming from even 5-7 years of casual smoking can be almost completely undone if one quits early enough in their lifetime.
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>>674620058
the money you need to spend to maintain your habit/addiction is enough for me to never do that shit.
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>>674620204
This. 8 bucks a day is an incredible expense, even in the short term. Can't fathom how average New Yorkers afford it
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To look kewwl
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>>674619931
Because when your old, you start becoming a real burden for society. COPD? Heartfailure?
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>>674619018
Because people are stupid as fuck
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The truth is that less than 10% of life long smokers die from lounge failure. This is a bullshit, the studies are done with funding from anti-smoking campaigns. Just like back when they made marijuana illegal. They lied and sheep blindly follow. Thanks for giving these people power.
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>>674619018
why did daddy cant stop smoking? or is it mommy faggot? are you afraid one of them die someday and then you will have to become a complete adult? but you are afraid becuase you are a fucking faggot.
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>>674620378
im a eurofag but i understand that new york is super expensive to live? i also dont know how all these cig smoking hipster survive overthere.
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Do you even vape bro
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>>674619494
Dumbfuck 4 days isnt quitting yet
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>>674620204

I don't smoke cigarettes but I do smoke pot. I'm not one of those ignorant potheads who claim it's healthy and cures cancer. I have enough common sense to know it's an unhealthy habit. At the same time, binge drinking is an unhealthy habit and almost all of my friends get hammered every weekend.

I plan to quit smoking once I graduate college. I made some great friends through smoking and it's given me a new appreciation for a lot of things in life. At the same time, I don't want to fuck my lungs up by decades of smoking.

As far as cost goes, I'll smoke a half ounce (~$120) every 3 months or so. It's not too expensive of a habit, but money has never been an issue for me.
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Its cool
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>>674620550
Kill yourself
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>>674620550
bruh it is scientifically proven that smoking increases your chance of cellular mutation AKA cancer.
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>>674620568
Watch San Francisco 2.0 on HBO documentaries. NY is big enough that you can still find affordable housing in queens, Bronx, Brooklyn. Cigarette taxes are some of the highest in the country
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>>674619018
I started smoking because both my parents, my older brother, and two aunts smoked. They all told me all the time how bad it was yet kept smoking, this tickled my curiosity so i started smoking. I've tried to quit, but living in a house filled with smoke is close to imposible, it is one of the reasons i want to move out ASAP.
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>>674619018
because it helps not kill everyone around me
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>>674620655
I quit after the last cig. Check your dictionary, herb.
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>>674620568
Cigarretes are even more expensive in NY. They're heavily taxed
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8 dollars a day?
I feel like I smoke quite a lot and I'll go through 2 boxes a week. MAYBE 3 if I end up drinking that week. And rolling tobacco a 25g pouch would last me over a week. nearly 2 weeks.
Do people really smoke that much? Cause I've been smoking for years and before I was working a pack or 12.5g tobacco would last a whole week.
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>>674620765
He wasn't arguing it didn't increase the chances. He is saying the chances are low as shit and anti-smoking campaigns purposefully make it sound far worse than it is.
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>>674620778
it seems that these big cities who attract millennials are expensive or is that just an idea?
here where i live too (belgium)
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>>674619494

Pussy.
> Quitting before managing a decade.

Are you going to raise your children to give up this easily too?
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I like it in the same way you like your coffee in the morning

Im sorry you dont like the way I smell or that once in a blue moon you get to breath the ciggarete smoke for a second, but maybe you should stop being a little bitch
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>>674620794
Damn dude, you never had a chance. Even if you didn't start, the amount of 2nd hand you absorbed is insane
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>>674620550

>lounge failure
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>>674619018
its a form of suicide for people that dont have the courage for it
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>>674619018
Well when I started in 1993 I thought I was being cool. The health effects happen to OTHER people...not me. ....and for a long time it didnt effect me. But in 2011 smoking three packs a day was taking its toll on my wallet. I have been a runner and athletic all my life, but after I quit, it was apparent how much it had been holding me back.
I dont smoke anymore and I only run omce a week if Im lucky....but my run time is still better than when I was running every day and smoking.
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>>674619018
Cuz it's fucking cool
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>>674621093

> This

Second hand smoke is the biggest bullshit ever pushed on the public. Unless you're routinely in an enclosed car with someone smoking, you'll be fine.
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>"It's not too expensive of a habit, but money has never been an issue for me."
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>>674621046
Urban influx is real and being fueled by millennials, true. In large East Coast US cities, the poor are actually being pushed into the suburbs - onetime reserved for upper middle class whites
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>>674620550

You're one special kind of retarded tinfoil hat.
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>>674619018
This picture is not accurate. search do smokers lung actually turn black?

I say this as a former smoker who had to try really hard to quit. No smoke responds to health threat. It's short term versus long term thinking.
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>>674621093
the problem is that cigarette smell stays in your clothes after you spend only 1 minute with these people in a non ventilated area.

>your breath stinks
>your clothes stink
>your house stinks
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>>674619018
because humans are apes.
people forget we are only a couple million years removed from a fucking chimpanzee.
most of us are still fucking retarded
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>>674620742
Don't worry anon he already is.
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>>674619018
Why do people do "any bad habit" in "current year" is an idiotic question.
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>>674619018
I smoke to intensify the high of percocets
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>>674621507
>these people
muh opression, i identify as a ciggarete smoker and you better use my pronous; "go" "fuck" "yourself"

thanks
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>>674620550
fuck i need to lounge more
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>>674619018
It's mostly kids doing it because they think it makes them cool, or more mature. I would have denied it back then, but that's exactly why I started.

It is stupid to do. I've been quit for about 6 months now. I've quit before though. The longest I stayed quit was about 1 year. I intend to stay quit this time though. The problem before is that I mistakenly thought that I could handle smoking a few while out drinking. I don't drink anymore though, so it won't be a problem. I'm pushing 40. I'm still in good health, but I know that it's only a matter of time before shit starts going wrong, especially if I keep smoking. I know that if I don't stay quit, very soon it will probably be too late.
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>>674621296

My parents make a combined $700,000/year. I was raised spoiled as hell and at age 21 my parents still pay for everything for me.

> TFW no student debts
> TFW parents are paying for my dental school in full (a $500,000 price)
> TFW got to live in a mansion growing up
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>>674621274
>underage b&
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>>674621337
i hate the suburbs. there are federal government plans here in belgium to turn the countryside into suburban environment and our country is already so small... im gonna move to france because this has made our people road rage the hardest in all of europe and i fucking hate that shit.
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>>674621291
fuck off you filthy human being
i dont want to inhale your cancer you inconsiderate piece of shit
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Why do people drink beer knowing it's bad for you. I mean, your first beer doesn't even taste good. Why do they continue?
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>>674621728
its not like i associate with you smokers anyway.
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>>674621780
I ain't mad anon. Just go do the shit that us poorfags will never get the chance to.
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>>674621036

Because smoking doesn't ruin your cardiovascular system causing your cells to, essentially, slowly suffocate while shaving years and years off your expected lifespan.
Not to mention how the addiction fucks up your brain to the point where any moment without cigarettes fucks your own mental health.

There is literally no upside to smoking. It's not even a thrill (for those thrill-seekers amongst us).

Plus this retarded habit infects everyone around you.
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>>674621274
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>>674621854

I don't even smoke but I know that the occasional half breath of cigarette smoke isn't going to give you cancer. Smokers themselves won't even get cancer unless they smoke for 15+ years on a consistent basis.
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>>674621933
youre gonna end up in the ground either way, probably miserable in your last moments. wondering what if the love of your life was a smoker

grow up, its just a habit
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>>674620058
I only plan to go 3 years until end of school
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>>674621914
Some beers taste good
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>>674619018
Biggest regret in my life to smoke, started with spinning it with weed, ended up smoking cigarettes.
quit on and off for just over 10 years.
a constant fucking itch in your brain that never ever goes away.
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>>674622133
>youre gonna end up in the ground either way
then find the nearest bridge and jump off because your're gonna die anyway
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Because of the billboards in mah hood yo
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>>674622004
It helps you relax, it's not for a thrill. It's that little bit that helps you not leave your wife or quit your job.
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>>674619018
The thought came me to but not in regards to health.

Less smoking on television and film.
Less figures smoking in commercials.
ZERO cigarette commercials.
NO SMOKING in bars, waiting rooms, cafes, in trains and subways, in home with children etc......

Yet something still compelled people born after 2000 to smoke.
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>>674621914
because its not as damaging when you drink in moderation. but i agree regardless. i drank from my 14 to my 19 then i stopped.
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>>674622428
Old movies>>674622007
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>>674622243

Hey man just make sure you follow through on that promise. I'm graduating next year but I've been smoking pot since my sophomore year of high school. Honestly it doesn't even appeal to me any more. I still do it because of the social aspect associated with it, but it just gives me increased anxiety at this point.
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>>674619931
Because your secondhand smoke makes everyone around you suffer.
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>>674622428
hipster/beatnik mentality mane.
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>>674619018
Same reason they did in the 70s
>to look cool
&&
>be popular
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>>674622079
thats not how cancer works. any exposure to a carcinogen can start a mutation that can become cancer. you only need to knock the telomeres off one chromosome to get cancer.
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>>674620902

It has been four days you gigantic faggot, you will still have nicotine in your blood stream. You haven't quit, you just haven't smoked in 4 days. Come back in 4 years, then you can say you've quit.
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>>674622810
>any exposure to a carcinogen
how do i avoid this shit?
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>>674619494
Great job, stay strong a keep it up!
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>>674621780
>700k
>thinks hes rich
My fiancées parents make 10 mil a year. They just bought us a 3 million dollar penthouse with cash for our wedding present.
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>>674622645
Are you locked in a room with smokers?
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>>674619018
you people do see theirs 2 pairs of lungs right? meaning both fuckers are dead why the fuck do you care if my lungs look good after i am dead you faggot
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>>674620462
actually we die young and you live longer, you live to to the age where your bdy starts reaking down anyway and your going to cost the system money no matter what
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>>674622133
You seem like the type who eats excessively fattening food, not caring about health, because hey
>I'm gonna die one day anyway
>everyone else is doing it
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>>674621274
>dr no
i just watched that.

daniel craig bond is better tho
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>>674619018
Smoked for 4 years, quited cold turkey for about 8 month, smoked one month and requited so far (1 and a half month)

I'd guess most people start for social reasons.
Myself I actually enjoyed my first puffs.

Overall experience : Smoking feels good but it's definately shit.
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>>674621093
My coffee doesn't create a 20 foot radius of stink anywhere I go. It's not a public nuisance and it doesn't endanger people with medical sensitivities. It stays in the cup, then I drink it, and that's it. Maybe i take a mint in consideration of people who are immediately face-to-face with me. It has absolutely no effect on the people around me at all.

Put it this way: you can't blast a boombox at earsplitting levels in a restaurant or near certain places especially at night. If you flash a laser or strobelight in some places you will get kicked out for annoying people. Guess what, people have the same expectations regarding their sense of smell as they do their sight and hearing. It's called mutual consideration. Welcome to society, you fucking idiot.
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>>674619931
Because when you're dying of 5 different types of cancer simultaneously you're a huge burden on society, especially if you live somewhere with government funded free healthcare like Canada.
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>>674619018
as soon as i had rolled my first joint after 50 thousand fucking attempts i sat in my chair and listened to the same song for two hours straight baked as fuck, from there i ended up just smoking tobacco in places you can't have weed and it just sort of developed from that, but i still hate the taste of tobacco even now, 5 years later
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>>674623074
whats that disgusting skin disease on these hands? it looks like the owner put them in a nuclear reactor.
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>>674622996
Chinafag here, my dad makes 50 mil a year. Owns nuclear power plants and textile factories
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>>674623314
not sure if b8, or retarded.
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>>674620628
Ross?
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>>674622079
>Smokers themselves won't even get cancer unless they smoke for 15+ years on a consistent basis.

Which is the majority of smokers.

The years fly by too. You won't keep track of the time. No one does. They just suddenly realize one day that hey, 20 years has somehow passed. If you're a teenager, there's no way you'll get that though. You pretty much have to experience it first hand to appreciate it.
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>>674623337
rockefeller fag here, my dog makes trillions by being a kike and demanding reparations from Merkel.
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>>674620550
>lounge
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>>674623314
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>>674623337
Pretty sure 50mil china money is less than 1 mil in freedom land big guy
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>>674622996
>>674623337

I make roughly a billion a year, have my own yacht and have 5 mansions around the world
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>>674620663
Why not just vape?
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>>674623589
>Vaping
>Water in your lungs
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>>674623551
>china money
kek
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>>674623225
Same I only started smoking cigs because I quit weed but still wanted to smoke.
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>>674619018
fuck you if i want to give all my money to philip morris i'll do it
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>>674623572
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>>674623314
its what happens when you sit in your wanking chariot for too long, believe me i know
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>>674623589
Because it's better to be a fag fag than a vape fag...
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>>674623438
Just gonna say this fucking kek
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>>674623337
How much is that in real money, or fuck, even pesos?
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>>674619931
>be father
>kid starts smoking
>don't want your kid to have cancer

>be kid
>dad and mom smoke
>don't want your dad or mom to have cancer

>be normie
>have friends who smoke
>don't want friends to die from lung cancer

Do I need to continue?
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Current smoker, going on 4 years now. Started smoking after I joined the military as it was a way for us to unwind after classes, also was a great place to make some good friends. Now I'm out of the military, but I work as a contractor with alot of other prior service members. Smoking is still a very large part of military culture as its the only real way to get a break from time to time. Like it's acceptable for me to take a break once an hour to smoke, but any other breaks are frowned upon.
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>>674623572
>>674623747
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>>674622949
you cant, but avoiding concentrated sources reduces your probability of getting cancer. cancer is a natural part of aging, assuming you dont die of another cause, everyone will get cancer eventually.
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>>674623589
Not him, but vaping is wayy too complicated. All the juice, the different components of the vapes, the things you have to monitor and replace, and it's expensive. So much simpler to just do it the old fashioned way.
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>>674623732
Fucking A
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>>674619018
I agree with you. But those first cigs I had were GOOD. Sent me within home. Granted I was fucking drunk and on drugs but NIC WAS GOOD TO ME. I also believe we should aim to improve infrastructure in ALL countries. BUT first we should ain to improve general education. To do this we should colonize the third world (fuck off political incorrectness! Third word is a correct descriptor!). Only then will we begin to see world unity and peace! Fuck niggers!
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>>674623438
its just a fucking joke you fucking reddit tourist. if someone makes a joke that does not always mean its bait you fuck.
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Quit 12 years ago. Best thing I could gave done.
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>>674623551
When I say 50 mil, I mean it in USD. Didn't think someone could be this stupid
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>>674622645
propagandaindustribullshit
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>>674620663
>I know it doesnt cure canxer.

Literally no one thinks this you dumb fuck

It's used to treat the pain cancer causes
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>>674623990
>reddit tourist
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at least non smokers die healthy
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>>674623957
fuck the universe for creating cancer.
what if i eat antioxidants to kill cancer cells before they become a threat?
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>>674620410
honestly this. that's why I started.
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>>674622996

Never claimed I was rich. Just claimed I was spoiled. I've never had to pay for gas, a car, food, textbooks, tuition, etc. My house was 4 floors with a full basketball court in our backyard. But that was honestly the norm in my town growing up. I never realized how good I had it until I went to college and had friends working 2 jobs just to help pay for tuition.
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>>674622423
Why not form healthier habits that bring about the relaxation feeling though? The worst thing you can do is justify an addiction
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>>674623076
>daniel craig bond is better

must be b8. HAS to be b8
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>>674622856
If somebody stopped smoking on X day, they would say "yeah I stopped smoking on X day" not X day+4 years you fucking dumbass.
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>>674623468

Oh I'm fully aware. I'm only 21 but the past 3 years of my life have flown by. I also know time will only speed up as you keep aging. I don't think about it now, but I know that I'm going to look back on today and remember being young. It fucking sucks man.
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>>674624058
I never thought Chinese people had a sense of humor. I still think they dont
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>>674624409
FYI I'm 24 and 2010 felt like yesterday

that span of time you felt was 'quick' between 20 and 21? yeah, that perceived timeframe will hold the rest of your life
you'll hit 25 and think "i feel like i was 20 last week"
you'll hit 30 and think "i feel like i was 20 last week"
you'll hit 40 and think "i feel like i was 20 last week"
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>>674624108
Its more true than you think.


>15 year olds on /r/4chan
>there being a le sub leleddit of 4chan in the first place
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>>674623589
why not literally suck cock
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>>674623711
yeah looking back on it now i should've just bought an e cig or some shit cause i mean i spend more on cigs now than what i did when i used to smoke weed but saying that idk how much weed goes for nowadays so
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>>674624314
Don't ever fucking reply to me again.
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>>674624146
still die tho
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>>674624730
Oh I know. I've noticed a 'change' here since Monday.

>fucking normies clogging up the /b/
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>>674624876
daniel craig was good but he makes bond look too serious
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Im honestly worried what my lungs look like, mum and bro both smoke in a small house for 10+ years, how bad will it be?
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>>674619018
I don't smoke , but who the hell wants to live to be 90 and live In a home anyway? I don't want to be treated like a baby when I get old.
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>>674619018
Becouse smokers enjoy smoking. I was smoking from time to time on the parties or during vacation, and then everyday for about few months. I've decided to quit cuz it was expensive and my stamina was decreasing. I didnt have any problem with quiting tbh. The thing I miss the most is the ritual itself. Its just nice to go out during night for a smoke and look at the sky. It's nice when u meet new person, especially a girl and u offer her a cig. and interaction becames instantly easier.
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>>674624730
fuck reddit. le front page of the internet. ok, ok i dont give a fuck. its just another cosumerist website where you have to make an account, post shit and liking/upvoting shit. not to mention the internet warrior meme.
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>>674624876
daniel craig is shit and so are you. who's you're second favorite? piers brosnan? lol
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>>674619018
I never knew this place cared so much about health. Maybe go out for a jog and stop browsing porn webm threads if you're going to preach about how everyone is shortening their life. Also, good luck on living forever non-smokers.
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>You have to struggle past your first few,
nope
>it's a painful, dissatisfying and rewardless experience
it's fun and exciting, from the first to the one I'm going to go outside to have in a few minutes.
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>>674625136
I said don't ever fucking reply to me again!
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>>674623669
Water in your lungs is harmless.

When you drown it's not because water is in your lungs, it's because air isn't. And if you get a substantial amount at once, and you fail to cough it up, your throat can close instinctively and you choke that way.

Either way though it's not because water is like poison if it's in your lungs. The body is mostly water, they can absorb a little mist. They're fairly wet already.
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>>674624668

That's honestly one of the biggest cruelties in life. It's not only short, but the healthiest years of your life are always at the beginning. I don't want to wake up one day at age 55 and realize my best years are behind me.
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>>674619018

why do people get fat?
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how bad out of 10 do you guys think smoking tobacco through a bong is bad for your lungs overs cigs?
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>>674624377
People generally quit many times for week long stints and fail, you wouldn't feel 100x better after 4 days anyway. I've gone longer than you without smoking and didn't consider it quitting
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>>674625496
Because they are lazy and pathetic
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>>674625409
not the same guy faggot
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>>674619018
We're too many on this planet.
I'm saving the whole humanity.
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>>674623589
>Why not just make everyone instantly lose any respect they have toward you and disappoint your parents?
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>>674620485
End thread.
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>>674623957
Vapes use less bud as they are able to activate more THC and other cannabinoids, so they end up eventually paying for themselves. There is barely any maintenance with vapes at all, compared to other ways of smoking. Sure you can take the simpleton way out, but enjoy inhaling all those carcinogens and your decreased lung capacity in the future.
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>>674625385
>good luck on living forever non-smokers.
go smoke from your vagina you fucking bitch. i just wanna live without any fags like you spewing smoke in the environment and poisoning my air and stinking all the time your faggot lungs produce more smoke than that vulcano from lord of the fucking rings.
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>>674625413
>water in your lungs is harmless
>pneumonia
Bruh, it's water....in your lungs. D'you really want to PAY so you can drown to death on Lucky Charms-flavored vapor? I know I don't.

I don't get why people do any of it. Drinking, smoking, vaping, weed, drugs, etc. Just live as healthily as possible without paying for an early grave.
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>>674620550
yes. the anti smoking campain is big. there is a lot of money in not selling stuff
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>>674619018
Just remember - any fag can quit. It takes a *real* man to face emphysema, lung cancer, throat cancer, heart disease, etc.
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>>674621581
Underrated
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>>674625941
dont forget rotten teeth.
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>>674619018
smoked for more than 10 years and quit like 6 years ago. now the only time I'm smoking is when I'm getting drunk, which happens maybe 4 times a year. could be worse. quitting was pretty easy tbh, just do it and don't be a whiny bitch.
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ITT:underage try to understand why society smoke
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>>674619018
Mfw both are fucking dead so it doesn't matter who was a smoker
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>>674619018

Most people start smoking because they are socially weak. They need it to fit in and feel less out of place when they are in a group of their peers.
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>>674621581
kek
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5 bucks a pack here in oregon but i cant find affordable housing for shit

>>674620778
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>>674620550
lounge failure you say... Interesting..
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>>674625409
he's not me ya retard. and i'll reply to you whenever i feel like, little man
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>>674619018
well you see when your life is shit and you dont expect to live past 20 then cigarettes are great. they help relieve stress and it gives you sometyhing to do while bored or even with your friends
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>>674619812
this
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>>674624668
for me it's 24. I feel like I was 24 last week
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>>674626121
just like kikes and their weird clothes and hairstyles.
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>>674624090

Go on /r/trees and you'll see plenty of delusional idiots who claim it cures cancer
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>>674621914
>he can't into stouts
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>>674626403
It cures some kinds of cancer out of the thousands of kinds but smoking it does cause cancer so people defending that are retarded
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>>674621081
TOP KEK
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>>674619812
It isn't *that* it'll kill you sooner... it's *how* it'll kill you.
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Well smoking didn't use to be as bad you know... If any oldfags here you know that around 06-08 not entirely sure, they started added FSC to cigarettes which makes the paper fire retardant unless being dragged to prevent fires from people leaving unattended cigs lit. I personally quit a year after they did this because I believe it gave them a nasty taste and some brands gave me headaches which didn't before.. So basically the government uses cigarrets as a tax revenue and as population control. Now get yourself a nice handrolled Cuban and tobacco is not a bad guy, when's its processed with fiberglass, formaldehyde and other chemicals, it fucks your shit.
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>>674626121
lol?
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>>674620550
>lounge failure
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>>674625702
>>674626312
Don't ever fucking reply to me again.
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>>674626286
a smokers lounge after one cig
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>>674624876
It's ok to reply to your son though, right?
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Started smoking when I was 16, seven years later, finally managed to quit. Haven't had a cig in a month, feels gud.
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Reasons to smoke

> It helps you lose weight
> It makes you cool
> It you have a baby face it will make you look older
> It helps you meet new friends
> It brightens your mood
> It gives you something to look forward to in your shitty lives

Stay mad you anti-smoker faggots. I'll blow my cigarette smoke in your children's faces.
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>>674623589
>vaping
>ever
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To be cool

To belong

Boredom

Stupidity

Obstinance
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Most people start when they're younger and will put up with the sucky part of starting in order to look cool or seem more adult.

I had one person in high school have a legitimate reason. He had seizures quite often during class, sometimes daily. His mother wouldn't pay for his medicine, so he started smoking to alleviate the stress. It stopped his seizures except for maybe once or twice in the 2 years while he was smoking.
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>>674619018
Oh yeah I'm sure that non smoker is happily living his lungless life.
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>>674622423
just jerk off dude or do sports
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>>674627435
This

I started jerking off to substitute my smoking habit and it worked like a charm.
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>>674622423
that "relaxed" feel is that what not smokers got the whole day. you just arent relaxed couse you want to smoke.
stop justifing that shit and get the courage to stop
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Cool people smoke
Kids emulate cool people
Kids start smoking
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>>674625828
>Just live as healthily as possible
Some people don't consider that living.
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>>674622389
>a constant fucking itch in your brain that never ever goes away.

It will dude, that itch gets weaker every year until it stops completely. Happened to me after 3 years or so that I didn't care about cigarettes anymore and became actually pretty disgusted when I smelled that shit. Stay strong!
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>>674625933
Yes, there certainly is.
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This thread and its slippery slope arguments, holy fuck
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>>674623882
Do you also berate people who eat candy, drive fast, or drink alcohol?
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>>674628169
yep
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>>674627955
It' kind of like that meme of the guy on the bike who sabotages himself.
>riding along
>'fuck you, health!'
>smokes to the point of lung cancer or other complications
>'Fuck, why does my healthcare cost so much?!'
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>>674627056
>It gives you something to look forward to in your shitty lives

Pretty much. I look forward to smoke breaks at work. Gets me up out of my shitty chair and out of my shitty office filled with shitty people.
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>tfw replace my smoking addiction with gummy worms
>tfw inhale every time I take a bite
>tfw instinctively ash it
>tfw eventually all that sugar starts to taste shitty
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>>674627056
>it helps you lose weight
So does crystal meth.

Everything else is bullshit though. Anime and new vidya game releases give me something to look forward to.
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ITT: kiddies who have never smoked

"A cigarette is the perfect type of a perfect pleasure. It is exquisite, and it leaves one unsatisfied. What more can one want?"
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>>674619018
Why do people as moke? Why do people smoke weed? Does the same damage to the lungs. Your lungs are not equipped to proceed smoke of any kind. Why do people to heroine? Who do people do coke? We know in this day and age drugs are bad, but people do them anyway. Why ask why? Dry bud dry
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>>674623589
>sucking robococks
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>>674628090
NIGGER DETECTED!
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I get extra breaks at work because I smoke. I figure the time I spend on breaks makes up for the time I lose in life.
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>>674628279
Yeah, I hate people who don't take responsibility for their own choices, too. But if someone wants to smoke/drink/eat/fuck/skydive/snort/be vegan and they actually blame themselves and no one else for their poor health or impending death, that's up to them and I celebrate their ability to live their life as they see fit. It's freedom, baby, yeah!
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>>674628558
I have smoked before, and I'm glad I didn't get hooked. To hell with having dry throat and a mouth that tastes like tobacco all the time.
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>2015
>ei polta röökiä

Oletko koulukiusattu, kehitysvammainen vai molemmat?

>m-mutku siihen kuolee

Niin? Oliko elämä kilpailu kuka elää pisimpään?

>siihe jää koukkuu!!!

Ei jää, jos ei ole alaikäinen ja osaa polttaa kohtuudella.

>s.. SIIHEN MENEE RAHAA!!!

Kuka pakottaa ostamaan askin päivässä, vitun turvenuija
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>>674628403
>Anime and new vidya game releases give me something to look forward to.
The difference between smokers and you is smokers only spend a few minutes a day on their expensive waste of time
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>>674628763
Yeah, that's fine. It's only a problem to me, when they try to get other people to make the same poor decision.
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>>674619494
Holy shit are we the same person? Literally going through the exact thing word by word. Good luck!
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>>674625807
Are you even trying to make a point or just yell at random people about their choices? Seems like the latter.
Your air? How about stop wasting mine by breathing, you over opinionated shit.
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>>674628764
who?
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>ITT mental gymnastics
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>>674628868
A few minutes, but hundreds of dollars a month (thousands a year). I have Hulu and Crunchyroll, so I can watch anime whenever, for however long I want, and it'll cost the same.
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>>674619018
>>painful

Literally never hurt me. Didn't even develop a cough. Quit after 3 years of 20 a day though.
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>>674623076
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>>674628809
Garble hsrble gorkb fork fucking motherfucking shit language
. piss off
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>>674619018
It really shows how insecure you are about your own bitch ass flaws when you start ripping on the easiest possible target. Its pretty hard to lose an argument when youve got science behind it and thats why you go for smokers.
Why smoke?
Because not everybody cares about how long they live and how shit they do will affect them in the future, especially when theyre young. People have different lives and do different things. So why dont you fuck off and deal with your own bulshit because passive aggresively venting on an anonymous website is not going to sort any of that. You fucking retard
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>>674629076
no idea.
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>>674619018

because OP is faggot
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>>674628764
>glad I didn't get hooked
I have smoked 4 years and not once had more than 5 in a day, often zero.

Your total fear of being addicting makes you more a slave to substances than smokers who can pick it up and leave it as they please.
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>>674620550
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>>674628972
So, you want the anti people to be able to spout off to no end, and even get government funding, while the pro people aren't allowed to speak? What a double standard.
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It's one of the last few vestiges of face to face conversation
It's great for socializing at partys
They're nice for relaxing
They go great with coffee or liquor or after finishing a nice meal
In moderation it can be pretty pleasurable

Plus it aint that hard to quit. After smoking a pack and a half per week for 10 years I was able to put it down because I didnt feel like it anymore. Just stop buying packs. Bum some off friends for a while, but just stop buying them and you'll be fine
Though I will admit working a demanding job and not smoking is the hardest.
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>>674619018

i eat butter and steaks and triple sour cream in nachos. has about the same effect on lower life expectancy. got a problem with that too?
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>>674629480
Agreed, those who worry about the "withdrawal" symptoms honestly don't have enough going on in their life.
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>>674629637
They can speak all they want, just don't bother me with it. This is actually what 'makes' anti-people, because they get tired of hearing the "you should try it!" spiel, or the constant "you don't do it cuz you're controlled by the gov't and not cool!" shaming from the pro-types.
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Autism
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>>674629720
Like, the sour cream is inside the nacho? Like, stuffed in before you fry the chip? That sounds amazing.
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>>674619494
Top kek
You said you got a cold
I also stop smoking every time i catch a cold but restart right after
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>>674620058

that's not how cancer works faggot anon.

google: single hit cancer
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>>674625569
Shhh, just let him have his achievement, it is the only thing he has acomplished
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>>674629323
>>674629497
moar
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>>674629105
>thousands a year
Do you live under a fucking rock? Who are these fictional people spending thousands?

A bag of tobacco is about £10 ($15) and that lasts at least 3-4 weeks. And that's store-bought, duty free is a fraction of that.
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>>674619018
I was in the sauna with a few of my friends a while ago and the subject of of smoking came up and we were all amazed that everyone we knew who smokes are either sick or dead.

We are all in our mid forties which is not a lot these days, for the most part the families up here lives to a hundred or a lot more but the ones we knew smoke died like in their seventies or the oldest smoker i know my own grandmother dies at 86 which is such a low age its almost unheard of up here.

My grandmothers sisters who are in their early nineties still live full lives, trek mountains and hit on young men when they can :D.

So keep away from smoking if you can, you will either live a long healthy life or die young - you choose.

Just remember the smoking death will not hit until the mid forties when everything is to late any way so suit yourself if you ever started smoking :D.
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>>674625385
This guy gets it

Live hard, fuck shit up.

People who force their ideas about how they treat their own body on others are fascists and faggots
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>>674629959
You could say the same for some smokers, who got so tired of the "it's bad" spiel that they decided to light up. In the end though, it's a personal decision. I don't know how bothered you can be these days by the pro-tobacco side, since there are no commercials allowed anymore and less smoking in movies and TV every day. I have to deal with the never-ending barrage of "Truth" ads portraying me in a bodybag and being "swiped left" on, as if I didn't know about lung cancer or were even on Tinder.
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>>674619018
bC they taste so good, it gets me a little lightheaded when i haven't had one in a bit, and bc i'm an American/no one can stop me
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>>674619494
please keep smoking, the economy cant support too many old people.
why do you think it is still legal
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>>674619018
I started in high school in the 90's, smoked until 2012, finally quit with Chantix. If any would-be quitters are having a hard time, ask your doctor about it. I think it's a little riskier for people with a history of mental health problems but the crazy side effects are extremely rare otherwise.
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>>674629164
Dude is preferably to smoke weed than tabacoo that shit, will ruin your teeth, your breath, your skin, can produce gangrene of fingers and erectile dysfunction. Is not only lung and throat cancer you have to worry about


Smoking is retarded for retarded easily influenced people
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>>674630359
not everyone rolls their own cigs dog
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>>674620462
This is not true at all, people who smoke actually help society by dying before their pension.
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>>674628169
Candy is delicious, driving fast gives you a kick, and alcoholic beverages not only taste good, it also numbs you.
I can't for the life of me figure out what's so enjoyable about smoking.
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>>674630195
>google: single hit cancer
Yeah, once you've taken a single hit, you're dead. So why quit?
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>>674622949
Stay away from any sort of civilized society. Cars, factoring and the like all release carcinogens. So move to a hut in the deepest Amazon would be my recommendation.
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>>674629480
>who can pick it up and leave it as they please.
Then pack it up and leave it
Oh wait you cant
acceptance is the first step of recovery friend
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>>674630359
>a bag of tobacco
I guess I should have mentioned that I'm 'Murican from the start. If it's unhealthy, we will certainly do it in excess.

>>674630455
Your argument also has valid points. I guess it's just my misanthropy talking.
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>>674619018
There is absolutely no difference that matters. They are both dead.
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Why does my vape taste so bad? Used to taste awesome, now it tastes like nothing but if I use it for a while it leaves a bad taste behind. I only just replaced the atomizer a week ago.
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>>674630646
My point stands. If you are spending hundreds a month on smoking the problem isn't smoking it is you being fucking stupid.
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>>674630738
so the joker ripped off sting. your point?
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a) because it makes you look cool (especially those who start in their teens)
b) because people around you do it (if most/all of your friends smoke and they frequently go on cigarette breaks, you might get tired of just sitting there with them eventually and light up a cig)

it's as simple as that.
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>>674630468
>why do you think it is still legal
Because of those delicious taxes that keep rolling in no matter how high they raise them, mostly. Also, tobacco is a huge cash crop, providing a lot of jobs.
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>>674630979
>Sting
HE'S THE FUCKING CROW! REEEEE
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>>674620550

I'd like to show you the medical imagery of my grand mother's lungs who smoked for 20 years.

Basically, the bottom half of both her lungs are burnt black and she lost around 25% of respiratory capacity.

It's pretty lame to be honest.
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>>674630719
>factoring and the like all release carcinogens
I knew there was a reason I hated math class.
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>>674621027
That's all these convenient faggots who don't know how to roll a cigarette.
They're wasting their money.
Rolling saves your money, and you work a bit to get to smoke.
30gram is for 1 week and costs 5€
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>>674620550

delusional faggot dtected
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>>674623076
They stopped making proper Bond movies when Sean Connery got too old. Anything after him is like a tribute band, sure it's similar, but it's not the real deal.
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>>674619018
I started just to look cook... yeah ill be honest... i just do it to look cool..
i didnt even inhale my first 2 packs or so... i just pretended to smoke them while standing around outside of the school where people could see me next to my car smoking.

later i started vaping but then vaping became uncool and i stopped.. and went back to sort of smoking / pretending to smoke... its just for the looks.. i think lots of people do what i do just don't wanna admit it..
i sure would never admit it in real life.. fuck that.
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>>674630690
>what's so enjoyable about smoking
I should have guessed you had never smoked. It is a perfect form of relaxation.

Also candy is for you children you overgrown baby.
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>>674619629
>implying
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>>674621027
I've heard people say that they were proud they that went down to two packs a day. Sooo yeah, super expensive
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>>674626814
that looks like a pretty serious case of lounge failiure there, one of the worst I've seen.
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>>674630690

It's because they are the biggest sheep ever.

Like "zomg all the keewl kidz are smoking cause they are rebelzzzz i shud do it too"
ff two month
"Hurr durr now I'm addicted but at least I luk keeewl durrrr durrrr"

Cigfags are the worst kind of people, and yet they are an outstanding number.

We are really a retarded race sometimes.
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>>674630860
Could be a few things...wattage, didn't prime correctly, bad atomizer...the juice/tank itself may have picked up a bad taste from the previous atomizer, if it went bad before you replaced it.
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>>674621914

loved my first beer. i was 5. uncle thought it was funny to give us kids a can to split. PBR
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>>674631209
Lived long enough to be a grandma, didn't she? I don't want to live past 65.
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>>674630971
i have money to spend bud, if anyone is stupid it's you for being POOR and having to roll your own cigs like a fucking indian
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>>674631600

The priming thing was probably it. I've never heard of priming a coil until now so thanks for the advice.
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>>674631298
I liked Roger Moore just as much, but honestly they are all enjoyable except Dalton.
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>>674631541
The worst people are the people who get this upset about what other people put in their mouths.
You don't hear me crying about all the nigger dicks you are shoving in your mouth every day.
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>>674631541

>Costs money
>Tastes like shit
>Breath smells like a rotten rat
>Teeth are disgusting

But hey

>At least I look keewl. Such rebel, much gangster

It's not the 50's anymore, everyone smoking looks like a retard and is pretty much mentally challenged to continue to do so once he realized that it was a shit tier habit.
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because smoking dank kush for first time is easier after a few cigs, for a nonsmoker.
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>>674622079

sadly thats just not true. a single hit creates the mutation that is a 20 year time bomb waiting to go off.

>true story sciencefag here.
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>>674631541
you sound like one of those "beta" guys
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>>674631965
>such rebel, much gangster
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>>674625828
Where's this water coming from?
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>>674631732

Well, yeah sure she made it so far, but the last years has been painful, partially because of her lungs.

Your body is gonna turn to shit at some point, why add to the pile of shit deliberately ?

Ho
>I don't wanna live olfer than 65

What a nice arbitrary number, how romantic. Don't worry, I was thinking the exact same until I turned 16. It's just a phase.
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>>674631541
My favorite way to enjoy a cig is alone, so how am I trying to be cool? If someone else is outside a building, catching a puff, I'll finish mine quickly. It's not necessarily rebellious, social, or about being cool for many of us. We just enjoy it. Imagine that, people having different tastes and habits...
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I dont want to live anymore but neither want to commit suicide. Thats a middle term
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>>674630736
>pack it up
Why? I can sit in the sun and enjoy the few moments of a smoke, then simply go and do whatever else I want. Why would I give up something I enjoy?
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>>674631965
>Doge memes
Cringed hard
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>>674631865
No problem....plenty of good articles out there on the subject.
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>>674619018
Because it's badass
Fyi native American or Europoors smokes don't bend knee to the FDA which is responsible for forcing cig companies to put in all those bad carcinogens that causes your lungs to do that.
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>>674631957

Nah I don't give a shit, suicide yourself I don't care.

I'm not saying any of it to anyone, I'm not a piece of shit, I just think it in silence. I say it to my very close friends who smoke though like: "You know you look like a fucking faggot with that cigarette right ? You know it ? Tell me you know it and you just don't give a shit."

Witnessing people smoking cigs in this day and age is just another proof of how humans as a race are fucking retarded.
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>>674631994
As could a single exposure to asbestos, dioxin, etc. We're all surrounded by carcinogens. No point in living in fear.
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>>674632163
>>674632422

Well, I kinda like this meme, so fuck you. And also, if you didn't arrive 2 months ago you'd know it started down here a looong time before Reddit recycled it.

Go fuck yourselves, I was here before you were even born you pieces of shit.
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>>674619018
dead vs. dead?!
I dont get it.
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>>674632478
>I don't care
>Whenever I see people do it I care immensely and think in silence about how much I hate society
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>>674631541
>>674631965
The only people who think this are way underage and normally the most preoccupied with being cool. When you graduate high school you will realise nobody really gives a fuck.
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>>674632225
I'm halfway there to 65 and my opinion hasn't changed...sure, I might change my number by a few years down the road, but once my dick stops working and I can't wipe my own ass, it's time to give up the ghost.
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>>674632652
Pure cringe
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>>674630028

your faggotry is more amusing than your jokes.
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>>674619018
Probably because some people are unable to receive proper care and education on the dangers of substances like this.

Also >>674620550
Fuck you, lounge failure is a serious issue. My lounge died a month ago, and now I don't have a comfy place to waste time in other than my room.
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>>674632835
What joke? I really want to try one of these sour cream stuffed nachos.
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>>674632478
You say you don't care but you clearly get worked up over it with your friends.
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>>674631803
I have money to spend. But unlike you I actually know how to spend it.
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>>674633066
>lounge failure is a serious issue.
Especially when you're sitting in it.
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>>674632698

God you are dense...

I don't care about you specifically and I don't go up to every smoker I see in the street to lecture them.

I care about the fact that such a retarded habit persists in the present time, it adds to the long list of really really retarded shit our species do and make me lose faith in "us".

Get it champ ? I don't care about YOU, I care about the fact that it's another proof of human retardedness.
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>>674630714
not what it means faggot.

a single genetic mutation, whenever it occurs, starts the processs that WILL become cancer in 20 years. it mght happen the first time. it could happen 3 years.... or 9 years... or 20 years in, but once it has happenend it foesn't matter if you stop smoking or not. the time bomb has been set.
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>>674633146
Wouldn't be surprised if you still bought video games you fucking manchild
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>>674619018
In Sweden lung transplants are being halted if you are a smoker since you will only prolong your death a few years anyway.

Better die young if you zre s smoker and give the lungs to who reelly need them.
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>>674633274
You are so adorable.
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