Hey /b/, give me one reason why Bernie is better than Trump.
There are none
he's not as rude, but that's pretty much all.
>>674589313
his plan is better crafted to handle the coming wave of automation
>>674589444
Nothing's free you bunch of idiots you just pay for when you get your job in higher taxes.
>>674589447
trump's honesty is better than bernie's lies
>>674589313
Trump talks like a faggot and looks like hes constantly holding in a fart.
>>674589945
This monstrosity for president? No way!
>>674589313
One seems a lot simpler and works in every other first world country. And it's not free, it's single payer.
>>674589313
There are none
Moving along
>>674589593
lol
but no
>>674590173
Shhh. There's no need for evidence or reasoning.
>>674590173
With America's budget, we have to cut tons of spending on the miltary before we think of universal healthcare
>>674590156
>This monstrosity for president? No way!
>>674589313
His healthcare reform plan doesn't need a tl;dr.
>>674590173
>>674590173
It doesn't though. The NHS in England is on its last leg. Single payer is crumbling in Sweden every program is crumbling in Sweden. Single payer works in countries with closed borders it does not work in countries with mass immigration.
>>674590173
those countries where it "works" are full of mostly hardworking white people. That makes a big difference. Enjoy watching it collapse in Sweden as they continue to flood themselves with dumb people that don't understand working.
Because Bernie's not a plant to scare people into voting for $Hillary.
>>674589313
Bernie has a real healthcare reform plan that works in every other civilized country in the world.
>>674590447
This is an election. If you want to tell people their lifes are better after 8 years of Obama go for it, you'll lose but go for it.
I suspect your a youngster who has never experienced anything other than Obama.
>>674590592
"free"
>>674590314
>uses racism to rise to power
Inforcing your country's immigration law ISN'T RACIST
>proposes mass deportations
Of illegals
Nothing wrong but it's not instant
>promises to make X greater again
Like every president ever...
>anti-muslim facist
One putting a hiatus on immigration is perfectly legal according to the act of 1957 and two he was talking about muslims entering from hot war zones.
>blames immigrants for America's problem
Again illegal and two no he didn't
>wants x to wear special ID badges
Another lIE
>>674590642
This
>>674589313
"Free" for you, maybe. Since I am in the 2% to me that reads: "twice as expensive and half as good"
>>674590376
Pretty sure Bernie would do that.
>>674590592
You talking about tiny nation states most of which have populations between 4 and 50 million people.
>>674590592
Isn't Japan and South Korea more "conservative" then us?
>>674590447
You realize that Obama's numbers are inflated by him entering office during a recession which was already beginning to recover... A recession caused by democratic values imposed on the banking industry by a democrat controlled congress... Right?
>>674590685
yes "free" is hardly an argument disputing the truth that "socialized" healthcare works.
Thank you and good day.
>>674590880
Without an uproar?
Try again
>personally I say we put more money into education
>>674591013
>"free"
>taxpayer money
Yeah free
>>674590926
Yes they have closed borders, trade tariffs, protectionist policies and they both devalue their currencies. They could careless about the suffering in other parts of the world, they only care about their people
>>674590592
You ever wonder why, if these countries are so great to live in, that most immigrants still go to America? Why not just mass immigrate to Europe, if their systems are significantly better than the US? It's because they all have very strict immigration caps. Their systems would crumble if they had immigration close to what the US has. They're allowed to have such systems specifically because the US does not, and allows nearly anyone who wants to come to come. Similar to how these countries do not have to spend a lot on military because of US spending. Unless you're for having strict legal immigration limits in the US, which goes against the fundamental principle of the United States, then a single payer system would never function within the US.
>>674590642
>If you want to tell people their lifes are better after 8 years of Obama go for it, you'll lose but go for it.
not sure what country you live in, but it ain't the US. (unless, of course you are 12 or retarded)
>>674590952
It would have been diffrent if republican values were imposed instead
>>674590707
>>674591142
Then why is it a big deal when we try to do it?
Because he hasnt had chalk in a letter sent to his sons wife.
>>674591266
Keep saying that when hillary is elected
>>674590952
>You realize that Obama's numbers are inflated by him entering office during a recession caused by George Bush.
fixed
The reason he is better is simple you dumb fucks. Racism isn't going to cure this country. You're probably a bunch of old ass good for nothing fagatrons that don't realize where the fuck this country came from. This entire country was built from immigration. If it wasn't for immigration a bunch of you fucks wouldn't be voting for the president at all. You'd be in some other country doing other pointless shit. Don't only research the candidate you believe to be right. If you researched the rest you would know his plan isn't just "make it free" you fucks. God the stupidity of you people blows my mind. I hope trump does become president. The second he does I'm out. You all can stay here and crumble with his dumb ass who believe he can make a completely different country that he has no control over pay to build a wall. I know you will all just get defensive and cry, and insult me, because that's all you good for nothing fucks do. But do yourself a favor and actually use your brain.
really scares me how stupid americans can be
>>674591018
We already spend more money per pupil than any other country by a huge margin. Americas problem is corruption.
Here is Trump explaining in detail how corrupt and wasteful the government really is.
http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4529229/donald-trump-2005-un-testimony
>>674591343
I love how liberals say they are "tolerant" but yet they inflict violence on those who don't agree with him...
Hmm....
>>674589313
>pro tip you Can't. Cuz they both suck bags of dicks.
>>674591386
I will
>>674589313
Bernie won't Merica great again
Anon: 1
OP: 0
>>674591478
lol
>>674591289
We are surrounded by cucks. We're also very divided with huge masses of people who have loyalties to other countries and people. We are the new Yugoslavia
>>674591431
There is corruption in our government no lie
>>674591611
Dubs confirm the corruption
>>674589313
He embraced being bald instead of getting terrible looking fake hair
>>674591581
Never said we were tolerant now did we?
>>674591591
Sadly
>>674591700
Your dubs confirmed it as well
>>674591704
A legitimate reason
>>674590592
I do hope you have a second to read what I have to say. You can take it as you want, but at least read it.
America has had the same form of healthcare for a very long time. Private insurance companies. And for the longest time, we had the best healthcare system in the world. Insurance was cheap, providers were well compensated, and patients were treated very well. Nothing has changed much in regards to this system. However, the people of this country did.
Suddenly, a once well working machine had a wrench thrown in the cogs. Starting in 1986, the obesity "crisis" started, and it's a very real issue. I don't think many people truly understand just how devastating obesity has been to our healthcare system. It increases your disposition to needing cardiac surgery, the need for medication for hypertension, the diabeetus, strokes, and many, many other issues. Obesity fucks the WHOLE body up in every single way possible. Obesity is painful, but more importantly in this case, it's expensive.
I have worked in an urgent care and I currently work in the emergency room and I see it every day: fat single moms bring in their soon-to-be-fat kids eating McDonalds and playing on their iPads because mom has low back pain (most likely due to her being 5'7" and 240 lb). Then I see another obese patient who has hypertension and the beetus. Then I see another soon-to-be-obese patient who has a hernia. And so on, and so on, and so on.
Now imagine this happening across the country almost simultaneously. Suddenly, insurance companies need to pay for all these visits. They need to pay for all these medications, procedures, surgeries, and whatnot. Insurance companies increase their costs, because they have to or else they go bankrupt and all their customers lose their insurance. Premiums skyrocket over the next 20 years and obesity keeps getting out of hand.
Then people blame the insurance companies for doing what any company would do in this situation.
cont
>>674591611
We're talking projects that should cost $700 million costing 2.2 billion.
>>674591503
>>674591798
Oh shit I didn't even notice I got em too. Fuck anon the govt must really be fucked
>>674589313
Nice oversimplification faggot
>>674591852
Of course
>>674591849
This so much
I remember the previous thread where an anon said trump doesn't support 15 per hour wage. True, it would lead to fast food restaurants losing employees and have to close down. Obesity will slowly disappear
He isn't. They're both horrible. Everyone left in the race has no chance at my vote. I'm going third party.
>>674591478
Anonymous sent that letter most likely.People originating from this board.Would you say people that post here are liberal?I wouldnt.
>>674592022
Your dubs say so
Now no more dubs we get the message
>>674591849
Would universal healthcare work? Maybe. Would it fix the obesity problem? Not at all. Would it be expensive for America? You bet your fucking ass it would be.
The countries over in urrup don't have this obesity epidemic like we do, and I hate saying it because I bleed red, white, and blue. It's pathetic something so simple is destroying a system that worked so well for almost 100 years, but it is.
What can we do about it? Well, fatties usually stay fatties. The best thing you can do is stop it before it happens. Prevent childhood obesity, catch your patient when you notice them getting chubby and at least try to convince them to stop getting fat. There isn't much more to do than just hope this nonsense ends and we can go back to how medicine was run 20 years ago.
>>674591849
I read it anon. You make a good point, never thought of it that way.
>>674592185
Hate to burst your bubble but most of the old members left after chanology, I was there and it was pointless. New anonymous is a bunch of sjw cucks from reddit and tumblr. Take notes
>>674592237
I'm going for a third dubs dude. Can't stop won't stop.
>>674592163
Your choice anon
>>674592291
>Prevent childhood obesity, catch your patient when you notice them getting chubby and at least try to convince them to stop getting fat.
And then you would be prosecuted for fatshaming.
>>674590447
It's called a bull market, Obama didn't cause the economy to boom.
>>674592291
Or anon... We vote trump and convince him some how that they are the problem. Then trump will gas all the piggies instead of Muslims. Unless the Muslim was fat of course.
>>674592291
Bro.. Did you legit spell Europe as urrup?
>>674592487
No more remember?
The dubs will return though just not for us
>>674592487
Ok now I'm done
>>674592711
>thatsthejoke.jpeg
>>674592714
Hahaha ya I forgot. Was worth a shot.
>>674592789
Hahaha anon I swear these people have been here all day. The autists can't decipher sarcasm and jokes on the internets.
>>674592789
How was any of that a joke? Am i missing something?
>>674592789
Whats funny is that he went to saint louis and cleveland right after this. Shit like this only works in Chicongo
Bernie Memers are weak.
>>674589593
hitler whanted the best for the nazis. being hitler or not he had good ideas for his people and they lived very welll.
>trump on the other hand has the nationalist part of hitler and thats obviously the worst
>>674590468
"On its last legs"? You fucking what mate?
>>674589313
>>674592970
Eurofags spell the USA as m'erica. Hence uurpe
>>674589313
>>674592996
Needed more pics
Thanks
>>674589313
trumps healthcare would rid millions of people of health insurance
>can´t whait untill he is elected so i can watch your country burn and implode
>>674593091
It is on its last leg. Cameron has been meeting with economist for years trying to save it. The freakonomics guys wrote about the meetings in their book
>>674592973
Because it's full of welfare sitting chimps
>>674593109
Oh.. I thought jokes were supposed to be funny
>>674591849
Thats the biggest bullshit pimp ive seen in awhile.Up there with "insurance fraud is a serious problem".
My father was a prosecutor who even in the 50's was prosecuting insurance companies that pulled the plug on patients that ran out of benefits.Dint try to pass off that bullshit as some shit upon poor corporation that is under assault by the very constituency they serve.Dont even try it.
>>674593212
Except obamacare wasnt working in the first place
>>674593330
Only if you're smart enough to get it
>>674591798
wow this is fucked
>>674590468
It's on its last legs because it's been systematically raped and dismantled for profit by New "Labour" and the Tory scumbags all to the false gods of competition and the free market.
They will make sure it fails, so they can say "see it was going to fail".
If we had a robust support for it it could be fantastic again. Instead we get the sun and other tabloids in the pockets of the right spreading their dross and turning people against the fine institution.
Yes I'm mad. The NHS is failing because of rich white bastards, not migrants.
>inb4 the obvious cuck/nigger/europoor shite you will spew out.
why is everyone here so shallow? You guys are always so heavily biased towards one candidate, why can't you guys just post an unbiased pros and cons list of all candidates instead of trying to make each other mad?
>>674590468
>The NHS in England is on its last leg.
Nice bait mate.
>>674591849
>>674592291
Oh, I didn't even really make my point. My doggers were barking and wanted to be walked and I got distracted.
My overall point is that it's very easy to look at this issue at face value. Yes. As our system is now, it's broken as fuck. Could you imagine what France would be like if 2/3's of it's people was obese? Constantly coming into the ER for reasons that could have been prevented by simple lifestyle changes? Having surgery after surgery, placed on a fucking plethora of medications, and constantly seeing doctors for bloodworks and follow ups?
If you want to know what America would be like on socialized healthcare, look at medicare. Medicare is terrible. It's a broken system that's hemorrhaging money at incredible rates and has all these ridiculous, ludicrous, and almost dangerous restrictions. It dictates how medicine is practiced, because otherwise you don't get paid by medicare. It costs almost as much as the defense bill and it only covers about 15% of the population. Could you imagine how much it would cost if it covered 100%? Could you imagine how broken the system would be? I have some fucking stories about medicare, man. Some that would make you angry, even if you don't work in medicine. And guess what? Nothing you can do about it. It's the government. Who will you go to to fix the problem? The government? Ha.
tl;dr, fat people are destroying our heathcare system
>>674593330
>>674589313
Well Sanders is not wrong.
Simply free is better than everything Trump suggested.
OP's picture just shows that Sanders is better.
Obama care is bullshit. I have a good paying job that *used* to not offer insurance, which made me eligible for government assistance. Thanks to Obamacare bullshit mandates, my job now technically offers insurance at a rate that is ludicrously unaffordable which means I can't get government assistance, and have to pay a third of my wages for insurance or pay a penalty if I go without
>>674593612
Would love to see this. Unfortunately, no one ever delivers what is asked for on this website. Just Trump memes.
>>674593720
No shit sherlock
>>674593720
Completely agree anon. I worked in a lab for a couple years. The prices just for a simple blood test or throat culture is insanity. I can only imagine the stories you have.
>>674590592
Switzerland does not have democratic socialism. Everyone buys their own health insurance and can pick from over 100 private insurance companies. They charge competitive prices which keeps it lower.
I had a dream where Hillary became president but then got impeached within her term
>>674589313
1 word
Socialism.
Fuck you for being retarded.
>>674594060
So reality?
>>674593655
>>674593655
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/nhs/11931401/Three-in-four-NHS-hospitals-are-failing-says-watchdog.html
>>674594122
Because it "works"
>>674594129
Works in European countries. So what's the problem?
>>674590898
you motherfuckers always find an excuse
small population has nothing to do with it, if social democracy works in a country with population of a million people, it also works with population of a billion.
>>674590592
>UK
They're going to lose that #6 spot when all of their schools become academies later this year.
What is the biggest thing that our healthcare lacks vs.europes?
Yeah.Preventative care.
>>674592534
He didn't cause the recession either, but that's what retards like you believe
>>674594285
Check what we mostly use our budget for
>>674590225
>>674593578
>failing because of rich white bastards, not migrants
Rich white men have made the world great
You sound like a pussy. Are all Britts pussies now? Are y'all so dependent on the government that you can't go out and make your own fortune?
>kill yourself
>people like you will be the reason that England's national language will be Arabic.
>>674593300
If by "save" you mean de-fund? Due to repeated drastic cuts, Cameron has forced almost all NHS trusts in England into debt - as an unsubtle ploy to make it easier to privatise by the back door.
>>674589313
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0LvGbRE5o0
>>674594200
And no surprise after five years of mistreatment by the coalition. But that doesn't mean it's "on its last leg."
>>674594286
>you motherfuckers always find an excuse
REEEEEEE
>if social democracy works in a country with population of a million people, it also works with population of a billion.
You're a simple minded fool. I love how you faggots use to hold big countries like France the UK and Germany up as your example but they failed so now its Sweden, which is done, Denmark and finland.
>>674594244
So bernie sanders is a god but trump has burned everything down?
Maybe i have to be tripping to understand it.
>>674594816
If you've seen the shitty anime those are titans that are destroying the human race.
>>674589313
This picture is the dumbest shit I have ever seen.
>Sanders never said free healthcare would be completely free of any cost
>Sanders has laid out his plan to create free healthcare numerous times
>the system Sanders wants to put in place has been proven to work and be beneficial in every other 1st world country
>if you're making under $250,000/year your taxes won't increase because of healthcare reform
>if billionaires and corporations paid their fair share of taxes the US would be trillions of dollars richer meaning this wouldn't be an issue to begin with
>why would you not want free healthcare?
>why are you (a poorfag) dumb enough to support the billionaire class?
>protip: you're not rich enough to benefit from the Republican agenda
>another protip: you never will be
>a third protip: Bernie Sanders (AKA the reincarnation of Jesus Christ) supports poorfags like you
> protip D: do some research you brainless fuckwits
#FeeltheBern
>>674593578
Fuck off. You literally think the problem with England is the English. Your people probably come from some hell on earth third world country and now you blame the people who gave you a great life for all your problems.....OR YOURE A MASSIVE CUCK who should eat a bullet
>>674591206
>we
>>674594814
>REEEEE
>simple minded fool
>faggots
This is why I come to political threads on 4chan. Civil discussion here is leaps and bounds better than Reddit
>>674593457
>Corporate insurance lobbyists try their assess off to kill Obamacare so that Americans will hate it.
>Morons blame it's failure on socialism though it's obvious that private interests made sure it would be weak
Obamacare is designed to help the growing number of Americans sliding into poverty.
It's a sign of how stupid America is that they couldn't get free public healthcare to protect its citizens.
Every other 1st world country (and some 3rd world countries like Cuba) have pulled it off and now have better healthcare than America.
You are a country of half-wits and fucktards and I love watching you all die in the puddle of shit you created.
>>674594928
Kek
>>674594816
Probably anon. Lets drop some tabs and see if this makes sense. All these libcucks think just cuz trump is a tool that Bernie is better. They are high if they think a single one of his policies will ever get passed. And anyone who thinks trump will is just as autistic. Trump won't just because the other politicians hate him so they will never pass shit, and Bernie just comes up with bullshit that wouldn't ever get passed like free college? Ya good luck with that.
ARE YOU KIDDING?
TRUMP IS FUCKING HITLER
So, who's voting for Hillary?
>>674595312
Nice damage control
Even other democrats said it wasn't working there are to many flaws
>>674591289
You realise Trump has 2 donate buttons on his campaign website right?
>>674595378
kys
>>674589444
I see nothing wrong with the future depicted in that cartoon. Then again, I'm white and not a sub-human foreigner mooching off the system, so...
What a waste of trips.
>>674595460
And how much did he made from us?
>>674595005
>We don't say to the rich "Give to the poor"
>We say "Give us all the money that we think you don't deserve and trust that we will help the poor with the money we took from you by threats of violence."
>>674595378
No one is or has.
>voting for a woman married to a fucking white male
>>674595312
Got a point eurofag. But you'll Probably have something different to say when Trump is prez bombing the Fuck out of your small country because you guys made fun of him. WW3 is coming. Get ready. I'm just glad I'm on the side with all the fire power.
>>674595005
waaaait a minute...
>>674594286
>I don't know what excessive democracy is
>>674595372
That guy should be a clown.
>>674594788
Programs fail its the way of the world. having one massive system is dumb if you know anything about entropy. America has thousands of different health care funds because of this. Americas problem is that special interest have setup monopolies in every state by rewriting anti-Trust laws
>>674591849
How is it possible that people don't realize that the only reason healthcare in this country is 6x more expensive than any other first world country is that there are not enough doctors?
Every thread I go, everybody I talk to. Really? they say, more doctors would fix healthcare?
Why isn't it obvious to everyone?
>>674593032
Check out this fag that doesn't even know how to use greentext properly. Go back where you came from, faggot.
>>674595724
Too late
Hes voting for bernie
>>674591289
so do we all know now that hilldog's donors mostly be arabic states etc?
>>674595005
This is Hitler. Did he really say this or is this a massive troll
>>674591849
This is a very nice piece of shit post full of nonsense.
Not being able to adapt to new healthcare challenges is proof that your system sucks.
Every other 1st world country has the same issues but can afford to fix them because they have strong, publicly funded healthcare that can adapt to issues like these.
Your healthcare system was never fine, it only worked under acute-care focussed times. Now it's old and useless. It was never killed by obesity, it was killed by private companies not paying for education that prevent obesity.
This is so much more complex than can be discussed here.
>meanwhile, at the bernie rally....
>>674595485
About 7 billion last I checked. Either way the point is the cartoon is fucking wrong.
>>674591206
>gave formerly gainfully employed people minimum wage jobs & forced them to seek public assistance
>helped the rich get richer
>let 78 million citizens go without health insurance
>let the mentally ill form religious unions
>bailed out millionaires by giving them money that they do not need, which they spent on more luxuries while the workers suffered even more
>made middle easterners hate us even more
>killed the double of a man who had a business relationship with the previous president and was nothing more than a symbol to start a war and make the rich more wealthy
>>674595487
It never fails to amaze me how many people think higher taxes on the rich is about who "deserves" the money. It's the same mentality of a 5 year old who thinks his mom makes him clean his room to be mean. It's not about that, it's about getting shit done. Getting shit done requires money, and the rich have money. If you don't like where your taxes are going, feel free to bitch about that but don't come out here saying "Wah they took my money even though I deserve it."
>>674596108
>"Wah they took my money even though I deserve it."
>people don't deserve the money they work for
>>674595896
Everyone knows by now
>>674595421
Whatever, it has worked all over the world. You're insane if you think that America's dying system couldn't learn from other successful systems. Fuck off
>>674596346
DA M A G E C O N T R O L
>>674595460
He was getting shit from his supporters early on who wanted to donate but couldn't they want skin in the game. He asks us not to give him money because he doesn't need it.
>>674596346
>successful
you don't read much, do you?
>>674595582
You realize that in you analogy, we burn Trump alive outside a bunker right?
hahahahaha
>>674596346
>successful systems
like canada, right?
oh wait, its 1.3 trillion in debt and far worse care than in the US...
>>674596071
We are gonna derail the thread because a cartoon got its info wrong...
Not the first time this happened
>>674595312
>Obamacare is designed to help the growing number of Americans sliding into poverty.
Obamacare is causing this slide into poverty
>free public healthcare to protect its citizens.
It's not free. How does increasing a citizen's dependency on the "protect" them? It doesn't it's a form of enslavement.
>Every other 1st world country
Stop right there dipshit. We're not like the rest of the world and don't want to be. We're America and it's our world. You're just living in it.
>You are a country of half-wits
Get rid of your Apple, Android, and Windows products, don't fly in a plane, don't watch tv, get off the internet, and get off social media. I could go on about all the things we half wits gave the world but I don't have enough room. Go fuck yourself you government dependent slave cuck.
>>674595599
>>674595925
You'd be surprised how many berniecucks would think that's a bernie quote. What a bunch of fucking retards.
>>674595996
Hey shit stick, obesity is a serious problem in this country. And it most certainly is a reason for a shitty health care system. Is it the reason? No. Is it one of many reason that's contributing to this shit system? Yes. There isn't one fix all answer Fuck nut
>>674596320
Remember when your parents told you "life isn't fair"? They weren't lying
>>674594921
>If you've seen the shitty anime those are titans that are destroying the human race.
Where the main character turns out to be a Titan
>>674596108
what surprises me is that you are surprised when people with money treat you and the people like you like shit.
Yes we will pay money (that thing you don't have by definition) to stop people like cocksucker Bernie, then we will laugh at you when he loses
>>674596572
>What a bunch of fucking retards.
ARE
>>674596541
This anon gets it.
>>674596624
No shit sherlock
It's still shit
I'm sick and tired of you violent, racist right-wing hate mongers. Trump is going down even if we have to burn down the whole country. We'll be at every event in every town to knock some sense into your Neanderthal brains.
>>674596614
Nice backpedal
Then why are you voting for Bernie?
>>674596832
>>674596810
Totally. But using it as a political cartoon is dumb if you know anything about the actual commentary the show makes.
>>674596832
Liberals
>we're tolerant unless you're a racist sexist white christian male bigot!
>>674595862
Who are these people?
>>674596493
That honestly sounds awesome. I'm not a trump supporter dude. Our country is going to shit. Just saying, laugh now... But when we go to shit, the rest of the world is coming with us.
Trumps gonna win it all if he gets the 1237 delegates sanders can't even beat hillary imagine sanders dealing with putin we will be destroyed
>>674596912
Lets get back into politics its just a meme
>>674590314
>Hitler came to power, german economy got strong again
>Built autobarns, the VW beetle, at the time the best tanks and planes in the world
>Went to war with half the planet
>Damn near won
>After the war
>Germany is now one of the strongest economies on the planet and one of the most technologically advanced countries
>Until the SJWs infected it, filled with beautiful blondes
>>674596589
Public health systems fund education to keep people healthy.
I've got a McD's across the street from my house and no obesity issues.
The blame for health issues is placed on the healthcare system. The American healthcare system should be the ones to prevent this issue.
If it cannot then it means that the system is weak and needs to be changed.
Private systems all over the world are regulated heavily by the goverenment except for America where they arfe allowed to run rampant and fuck up the system.
The best private systems are in Germany and Japan and they only work because of rigid government control.
Start reading or shut the fuck up
>>674596108
>Getting shit done requires money, and the rich have money
Exactly and if you want more shit to get done you'll let the rich keep what is theirs. Poor people are poor for a reason. They suck at life. Giving them more money just enables them to make bad decisions on a greater scale.
>>674596614
What your mommy and daddy told you before bed last night has nothing to do with the tax code.
Maybe do a little bit of research into the formation of this country, progressive taxation and redistribution through social programs would not fly
>>674596895
>>674591151
>most immigrants go to america
is this guy serious hahaha
you guys only have tons and tons of mexicans
>>674596832
How would you win a battle with no guns, since they are all scary? What are you gonna do drown them in your tears?
>>674596866
>>674596866
It's fucking hilarious that some guy from the Phillipines understands American politics more than most Americans.
>>674589903
>Trump
>Honesty
>>674596541
Lol at your ignorant delusion. Only a country that's dead last in education could possibly believe such nonsense
>>674597149
This
We're doomed as a country
>>674597049
Yes anon and that is because you have self control. Most people don't these days. Its all about instant gratification. Another reason for a rising addiction rate as well in the country. Trump plays off this instant gratification bullshit and just says what all the autists want to hear
>>674597049
>implying health isn't a personal responsibility
>>674597149
>>674597229
naw dogg. its hilary in 2016, put your bets down now.
>>674590592
Switzerland has private health insurance and is a direct democracy rather than a representative.
>>674591849
>And for the longest time, we had the best healthcare system in the world
Stopped reading
>>674596949
bernie supporters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU3vcvGpALQ
prepare to vomit
9:00 to see "carl the cuck"
>>674597182
>any president
>honest
>>674591849
>best healthcare system in the world
what
>>674597220
>but anon our education is free!
>it got increased funding!
>it's so progressive!
>>674597433
Dubs confirm that this is a good point.
>>674589313
>all Americans are fat and ugly
>all Americans are stupid
>no Americans realize Bernie sanders isn't even American
Wew lad ',:^]
>>674597340
Trump is going to outwork Hillary at ever stage of this election. The guy is fucking relentless
>>674590707
But he is racist. Demonstrably. He stated "[Mexico] is bringing rapists, [its] bringing crime [to america]" thus implying Mexico is full of rapists and criminals, implying the Mexican (Latino) people are inherently crime-ridden, a RACIST statement.
>>674597828
Okay how do cartrls from south and central america get to the us?
FROM MEXICO
>>674594928
10/10
>>674597220
>dead last
This statistic seems legit. Somalia is a great place of higher learning.
Stay bent over Eurotrash. Your government isn't done fucking you.
>>674597828
No hes implying that Mexico is dumping their problems and gang members into the US. This is literally the premise of scarface
>>674597828
I'm a spic and lived 5 miles away from the border my entire life.
>protip he isn't wrong
>>674597340
I doubt it for two reasons
>every republican in the country will come out to vote out against a clinton, and republican turnout dwarfs democratic in this cycle
>Clinton (through her husbands presidency and her run in NY) has never actually been "grilled" on her scandals. Especially on a national stage. She always did controlled press conferences and has so far debated a moderate friend (ny), obama, and an old commie.
Once people start bring up things like her defense of pedos, covering up bills rapes, the cattle fraud scam in arkansas, whitewater, being fired from watergate for corruption, strategically using pardons, misuse of government funds for personal gain etc people will be even less excited to vote for her then they already are
>>674591798
>the most offensive thing about this cartoon is that it is all true
I wish social services would have taken me away from my drunk racist mum
>>674597828
>implying
But he didn't say any of those things, he implied them and you ran with it like the stupid American you are. I'll bet if wal mart ran out of stock of 700 packs of xxxl jumbo beef patties you'd demand you were being fat shamed because not selling you them implies it. Fat stupid Americans...
Bernie hasn't gone bankrupt... multiple times...
>>674597396
Wow... I'm speechless.
>>674595312
I used to have pretty good insurance options. Id pay 20 or 50 a week and have actual coverage. a co pay here...whatever.
now i pay 50 a week, and im not covered for anything upto 6000 dollars and then the insurance kicks in and pays part of it.
THANKS OBONGOCARE!
>>674597828
Are you a stupid cunt?
Have you not seen how there are entire united states TOWNS where there is no US-based law enforcement because they're been taken over by spic gangs?
It's a massive, massive problem and it's very clear to everyone outside of the US where a ton of your problems are coming from, it should damn well be clear to you.
Maybe in 30 years when mexico actually gets their shit together it'll be different, but right now trumps idea be gud
>>674598457
Neither has anyone running in the election
>>674598457
bernie never owned a company to go bankrupt
he didn't get a job until he was 40
>>674598303
He says has he preps his wife's bull
>>674592291
>what can we do about it?
Stop praying to your false god the Free Madket and penalize companies that sell unhealthy products and use misleading advertisement and packaging.
It worked here with cigarettes and now a significantly smaller percentage of our population smokes
>>674597828
what? you just made no damn sense. because of the fact that there is a high amount of crime in Mexico, and a high number of immigrants have been coming to America, some of the people that come over are criminals. he literally even said that some of them are the good people. the point is that there are criminals sneaking into America and he wants to stop it, that has nothing to do with race, so what the fuck are you on about?
>>674598457
Because he never owned a business.
A bad businessman never takes risks, A good businessman does
>>674598112
Unlikely. Trump may have an advantage within his own party, but he has no crossover appeal. Youd be hard-pressed to find any dem that would support trump. In fact, the more educated of the republicans will probably not vote.
I know that anecdotes are heresy but my universities republican and christian clubs have generally come to conclusion that theyd rather not vote at all if trump was the republican candidate.
>>674589313
He plans to reduce the US's bloated military.
/thread
>>674598627
>Reddit statisticians
NIGGA
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>674598627
Chapter 11 is not really bankruptcy its a way for rich people to restructure debt. They just use our bankruptcy laws to make millions of dollars. You know corruption
>>674598510
yeah.
Berniecucks are terrible
Makes me happy he pretty much can't win the nomination at this point
Its going to be hillarious when these same fags are trying to defend Hillary when she stands for nothing that they do
>>674589313
He isn't a bigot.
>>674598723
That's the difference between business and government though ; an individual can take business risks, and walk away with limited liability if it doesn't work, a government doesn't get a second chance.
Dozens of trumps businesses have failed, some have succeeded. You only get one shot at government.
>>674598723
Good businessman does not equal good elected official. The goals are entirely conflicting. Business models are all for personal profit, not social good, whereas political models are ideally ethical and aimed social good.
>>674593578
>they will make sure it fails
>implying this isnt already happening
>>674599056
>dozens
Literally only 4
>>674598810
>He plans to reduce the largest part of the economy and thing holding up literally millions of jobs
Good work you stupid cunt.
>>674599042
>reason he's better
Found the cuck
>>674598954
Top kek anon. It'll be a funny site to see.
http://fiscalfactcheck.crfb.org/measuring-trumps-healthcare-plan/
By our estimates, Mr. Trump’s plan to repeal and replace Obamacare would cost roughly $270 billion over ten years including estimates of faster economic growth, and nearly $500 billion under conventional scoring.
The policies would cause almost 21 million people to lose their insurance coverage, as the replacement health care policies would only cover 5 percent of the 21 million individuals who would lose coverage upon the repeal of Obamacare. This would almost double the number of Americans without health insurance.
>>674598794
>but he has no crossover appeal. Youd be hard-pressed to find any dem that would support trump
Actually polling has about 20% of dems supporting Trump
Not all dems are the shiteating progressives of today, how do you think Reagan swept?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/10/that-survey-showing-20-percent-of-democrats-backing-trump-come-on/
Not too mention, hes taking essential minority support away from the dem voting based
Already getting 1 in 4 blacks and 1 in 3 hispanics
>>674599211
Which is 4 more than Bernie.
You can't afford for the government to go bankrupt even once.
>>674589313
Lol america , even Mexico has free universal healthcare
enjoy your 100 dollar ibuprofen morons.
>>674598645
>call him a cuck, that'll prove my argument right!
>>674599056
>Dozens of Trumps businesses have failed...
Nigger, only 4 out of over 500, I'd take an over 99% chance on anything
>>674598603
Trump....
>>674598627
Vermont is running pretty damn smooth.
>>674598723
How is running the government, essentially not a business? Isn't that Trump's "best" quality?
>>674599451
he says as he preps his wife's bull.
Mad cause we found an equally frustrating conversation stopper as "racist"
>>674599420
And Donald Trump has over 500 successful businesses
That's over 500 more than Bernie
Where are you trying to to with this?
>>674598627
>The Onion
>Which is now owned by a Shillary supporter
come on
>>674599546
Chapter 11 is debt restructuring not bankruptcy
>>674599420
>Implying that every fucking billionaire hasn't failed at least once.
Not a supporter of anyone really but this is a shitty argument anon. Any richfag will tell you you need to fail to be successful. This all stems from the everyone gets a trophy bull Shit. Failure doesn't mean you failed it just means you try something else.
Plus America doesn't go bankrupt. It just creates another bubble. We are trillions in debt already. Who the Fuck cares.
>>674590314
So, you're telling me Trump will do nothing wrong?
>>674596101
Your confusing the legislative branch with the executive.
>>674599420
Except when we're nearing 20 trillion in national debt, around 12 trillion accredited to Obamas term.
>>674599450
>send them so they can see a real demagogue
>>674599546
probably because Sanders isn't the governor. he wanted Vermont to implement single payer healthcare but when governor Shumlin realized it would cost 88% of the annual budget, he abandoned ship.
>>674599873
He will do lots wrong but so will Hillary. Those will be your only two choices come November so good luck.just remember if no one votes, no one can win.
>>674599546
>Vermont is running pretty damn smooth.
Considering it didn't really have any problems when he took office thats not really saying anything at all.
He really didn't change anything
>>674591289
>please stop
Trump has admitted to accepting many donations. Don't be an idiot.
>>674599784
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/21/carly-fiorina/trumps-four-bankruptcies/
He's not a complete asshat in public. Nor is a nazi fuckhead, or woman basher. He may not be the best candidate. But are any of the clowns running right now. It's all a big fucking joke. America is just waiting for the punchline.
>>674590447
being this ignorant
>>674596101
Actual autism
>>674600125
>Politifact
>A legitimate, non-biased source
Pick one
Redneck fag
>>674591427
And yet no one cares about your irrelevant country. But continue to talk about American stupidity while we have the best universities in the world.
>these berniecucks still don't realize after 2 more loses it will be impossible for him to win the nom
Why are you guys arguing? You are fucked either way. You can either get a lunatic idiot, a corporate whore or a socialist.
>>674591707
Not tolerant and trump goes back on his promises.
>>674593092
He never said that :^)
>>674600397
That was 18 years ago.
Have you changed your view on anything from 1998?
I'm pretty sure I've changed my view on quite a few things since then.
>>674600397
Not a real quote, just some lib propaganda
>>674589313
You're all fucking idiots.
>>674600355
>>674600397
>>674600428
>im so angry that bernies losing ill spam anti-Trump memes
kek, its funny how both bernie supporters and bernie himself go after Trump without even realizing hillarys kicking their shit in at the same time
>>674600644
if you are this old you don't change your basic view anymore.
>>674593092
Not the full answer :^)
>>674590898
yeah, like GB, Japan, Germany, France and Poland
please think before you shitpost
>>674600717
Never said that, it is just propaganda
>>674594928
sauce?
>>674600125
Trump made half a billion dollars filing for bankruptcy.
>>674600717
Republicucks getting BTFO
>>674589903
You are an idiot.
>give me a reason Bernie is better
Are you kidding me?!
>>674600397
>>674600717
http://www.snopes.com/1998-trump-people-quote/
>>674589313
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q925lmJPVs
>>674597118
Yeah totally
no reason
>>674600854
If you want to live in Europe move to europe. Your wife wont be pleased with the lack of black cock though
>>674600782
Yeah he funded her so that she would do a favor for her, it's called lobbying, something Trump isn't doing. Show the full quote where he says why he did it, So that she would attend his daughter's wedding.
>>674600782
>>674600851
>le crying berniefag
>>674600165
My thoughts exactly anon. Its sad to see all these people argue over who is better when the obvious answer is that they all suck loads of cocks
>>674600348
Fucking this. Politifact is the biggest shill piece next to NY Times.
>>674600782
I hate lobbyist so i'm voting for the woman who is completely funded by lobbyists
Thats you
>>674601075
>the best they've got is a fake quote
>>674601016
Not surprising coming from people dumb enough to support sanders
>>674601318
4 out of over 500, I'd take an over 99% chance on anything.
>>674593330
>It ain't my job to laugh, it's YOUR job to make me laugh
Like a typical Berniefag, sucking the life and fun out of everything
>>674600173
then explain the truth please.
no i'm not being smug here, really explain what actually happened.
