Why are so many of you voting for this senile marxist jew cuck? What the fuck happened to this place? I think it's time to deport all normies back to R.eddit and Make /b/ Great Again!
It's about damned time someone started a thread about the US election.
He will legalize marijuana.
>>674401133
>mfw people use "DUDE WEED LMAO" as an actual argument
>>674400960
>>674400761
I'm a low wage worker going to college on my own and paying for everything. If there's even a chance somebody can make tuition free, I don't care who you are I'll vote for you
>>674402291
Who do you think pays for your "free" college?
"We will raise taxes. Yes we will."
- Bernie Sanders
>>674402660
>free college
Wrong there buddy, I only want free tuition. We'll still probably have to pay for books ourselves, but it's something. I guess you're okay with most of your taxes going towards military spending and not actuality going back into things around you, huh
>>674402660
College kids don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves and that retard proves it.
>>674402291
"I wanna go to school for free wahhh"
Maybe if you had played a fucking sport, you would have gotten a free ride. Don't make everyone else pay for your shit schooling.
I'll just leave this here
>>674402291
What good is a "free" education when the economy is fucked and by the time you graduate there are no jobs?
The money to make it happen literally doesn't exist. Your country is in over $16 trillion debt. Wake the fuck up and stop falling for people like Bernie Sanders.
>From somebody who lives in a country with free education and healthcare.
>>674402883
Things around you??
How the fuck are YOU, or any other shit teir community college weeb, gping to contribute back to the thousands we pay to keep your dumb ass behind a desk?
What the fuck are you even in school for because we have enough mechanics/hair stylists, fag.
>>674401553
Because it is and drug laws are rediculous
>>674400761
Pic related
>>674402883
>implying the military isnt a huge jobs creator
>implying the military doesnt give recruits real world training
>implying having a bunch of liberal arts majors will benefit the country
>implying this would hurt the quality of higher ed
>mfw so many implications
Bernie will just buy nukes for israel.
>>674403002
How do I upvote this?
>>674403025
Thank you, it takes a fucking foreigner to see how fucked the USA is by trying to make education free.
But college tumblr Faggots don't care.
They just want to take thier photography classes for free.
>>674400761
Best thing, if he wins by some miracle, he won't change a god damn thing. He's a career politician who is backed by corporate sponsors, so, no, he won't tax the rich. "He's not backed by corporate sponsors." I hear you getting ready to say. There's a difference between him SAYING he isn't than when you actually do research for yourself and find out that he totally is. Politicians lie. I know, crazy, right?
>>674403333
That Jewish nose tho....
>>674403434
>>674403156
He's gotta complete his sensitivity training and study hard for that gender studies course.
Imagine that shit. Your taxes pay for millions of pussy faggots and feminists to sit in a room being indoctrinated with psuedo-intellectual nonsense about how gender is a social construct, and how to establish a safe space to avoid triggers.
American colleges are literally fucked.
>>674403002
Even with those proposals, it looks like approximately 200 billion deficit per year
>>674403434
>mfw bernie supporters think they know what is best for minorities
>>674400761
It doesn't really matter anyways, Hillary is winning more delegates. No need to worry about our country being socialist, because it's fucked either way with Trump or Hillary.
>>674403407
[Citation]
>>674400761
>Why are so many of you voting for this senile marxist jew cuck? What the fuck happened to this place?
It's usually a combination of them having a vested interest in welfare statism as they're fucking useless and are too lazy and/or retarded to support themselves easily, or that they're simply anti-white, r-selected cuckolds that enjoy fucking western society up as much as humanly possible.
These vermin aren't even the same species as us, and they need to be thrown out of fucking helicopters.
>>674403470
Trump and Hitler have literally nothing in common.
Bernie and Hitler do. They're both socialists, and narcissists.
>>674400960
wholly fuck shit, I needed a laugh
>Mfw all the buttberns left because somone called them out on that art degree
>>674403831
Mabey i just dont want to die if Im down on my luck and cant afford my prescription without insuance
>OY VEY DUDE FREE SHIT LMAO
>It's mathematically impossible to pay for the free stuff without raising your taxes and increasing the national debt but it's free I promise, goyim
OP there is nothing worng with Cornal sandars its just a fact 50% of his voters are furrys and femenist and weakpeople just like its a streeotype that people that vote for drumpf baby fingers is lolicons and pol
>inb4 fagget
>>674403831
Average Bernie supporters are idiots who refuse to take responsibility for anything. A generation of spoiled whiny brats who can't understand why everything doesn't fall in place for them.
>>674404044
>medicaid
As soon as you lose coverage or your job, fill out the paperwork to get on medicaid. But is paperwork too hard, if thats the case dont vote bernie, paperwork for days
>>674403511
>Even with those proposals, it looks like approximately 200 billion deficit per year
Nevermind that he overestimates revenues and dramatically underestimates cost.
For example when Medicare/Medicaid was introduced during Johnson's "Great Society" initiative he told all the naysayers that "lol don't worry it will be a minor cost and will only increase in expense predictably and sustainable", and now those programs alone cost more than the entirety of our fucking military (which leftists are oh so prone to lecturing others on how it's bankrupting this country).
>>674403499
>and we see here this graphs lines create perfect 90° angles
>EXCUSE ME PROFESSOR NOT ALL ANGLES
>>674403577
Everyone and anyone with sense can decide minorities future. They're at the whim of everyone else, because they are behind the power/intelligence/resource/common sense curve.
TL:DR
The worst leftie minorities are continually the victim of themselves more than anyone else.
>>674403511
O rly?
The military is half of the budget for the US. What fuckin' statistics are you reading Mr. Broke Back Drumpf Fuck?
>>674400761
>implying /b/ was ever great
>>674404235
Forgot video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-w-8fXzwQE
>>674404235
Welfare/medicare/SSI only make up a small fraction of the budget.You can tell this because we have spent billions to make one fucking jet.
Bigpoppatrump fuckin yankland doggy inc dw
>>674404366
>estimated cost analysis from 2013 of hr 676
>hr 676 is only about healthcare
Wah wah
>>674404044
Maybe you should die if you can't keep your shit together, work you ass off for school like REAL Americans did, then go in for a REAL job. Fuck, you can WRITE ESSAYS and have a /chance/ to get 5 grand every time. You lazy FUCK enter contests and shit
it's like no one under 18 knows what
"Work for it" means.
I'm not gonna pay for you to feel better about yourself, you fucking worthless lump.
A more cost efficient tuition would be nice but i would never give up conservative morality and standards just for that. Im currently living off scholarships
>>674404115
THIS, NOTHING HAS EVER BEEN MORE TRUE
Because you can't just WORK FOR IT anymore. Prices have increased substantially but wages have stagnated. My dad is just under 6 figures and has 70k in student debts. You see a fuckin' issue?
Its like you can't do any research about the current state of the economy. You're voting trump so its safe to assume you have the brain the size of my testicles. But GOD DAMN.
I've worked hard. Worked very hard. Still in debt. Why? Because unless you get LUCKY, the system is set up to make sure you pay for life.
Slavery was abolished and credit was added in.
>>674404705
Wrong person but fuck you too med fag
Conservative morality is based primarily off christian views. Have any of you conservatives ever read a bible? You can't pick and choose what you agree with. Doesn't work that.
Jesus was compassionate, gave, cared for, tended to, etc. None of which a republican does now-a-days.
>>674403824
Look it up your fucking self. Do you own god damn research. Stop being such a sheep.
Can someone explain why they keep calling Bernie Sanders a cuck? From my perspective it makes zero sense, but perhaps if it was explained to me, I'd be enlightened
>>674404959
>getting this bent over debt
Aww daddy didnt tell you about consolidation? Or deferments? Or smaller payments? Aww :(
>>674405177
>literally okay with being a cuck for the rest of his life
>>674405125
>calling people sheep
Please stop
>>674404959
Wahhh my daddy can't pay his bills either cuz he spends all his amazing 6 figures on dildos to shove in my ass
If your dad can't pay 70 grand with 6 figures, then you are just the spawn of another worthless yodle.
>>674405282
>not realizing debt is erased after awhile
>not realizing it is an investment
>not realizing your dad is a stupid ass
>>674403383
by going back to plebbit
>>674404151
Nobody ever told me that but under obama care it only 7 dollars >>674404705
How many essays have you written and gotten the 5 gs?
>enter contest
You pretty much just told me to win the lottery
>>674405162
"When you're white, you don't know what it's like to be poor."
- Bernie Sanders
He's also a feminist. This man is the definition of C U C K.
>>674404647
>>674404388
Are you people fucking serious? Is it beyond your capacity to google "US Federal Budget pie chart"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u24nH03NccI
Here, since you are probably too dumb or lazy to read, here's a video that condenses the federal budget down from figures straight from the Congressional Budget Office.
>>674405282
>is literally tring to defend himself
Homie,buddy,you're in debt because your fucking lazy.
You work hard?
Doubt it. Work factory, not fast food. You can do classes at day, work at night.
Gasp, wow
Did..did I just say... you can do BOTH!?!
>INB4 wahh I'm tired now
Hard work does that to you.
>>674405526
I still don't fully understand, like, I know what a cuck is, are you saying his country is being fucked by a black guy in front of him? Or maybe I'm not entirely sure I know what a cuck is. I'm very open to all opinions, please don't shit on me, I just want to know.
>>674405162
The same retards who use the word meme like it's a fucking adjective.
>>674405526
Is a "cuck" because he has the views of first wave feminism go eat a gun barrel anon.
>>674405513
>wahh i need to be told everything
>wah we live in the information age, but i only use it for dank memes
>wah
>>674403383
Go to reddit and kill yourself
>>674405513
Dude did you even go to hoghschool?? They have essay compitions to win HUGE grants.
FUCK IT'S LIKE YOUR NOT EVEN TRYING
oh, wait.
>>674402291
Entitled little prick.
>>674405125
According you people every news site is biased and lies, so you bare the burden of truth
>>674405898
Didn't go to hoghschool, but yeah.
>>674405765
https://www.minds.com/blog/view/513476480706031616
>>674405823
>Bernie voters in a nutshell
>>674405823
So you learned everything you know on your own?
>>674402902
No different than corporations or even business owners. They're all about themselves and fuck everyone else.
>>674400761
>implying /b/ hasn't always held both the far left and far right
>>674406307
>Capitalism
Not even once.
>>674406293
Well, I bet he didn't stand in the street yelling SOMEOME SHOW ME STUFF, HELP ME WHIPE MY ASS like a bernbutt at least
>>674406104
I like how you don't admit you were making shit up, fail to even acknowledge you were BTFO'ed, and bring up a complete red herring that has nothing to do with what I mentioned.
Leftists everyone.
Btw we're winning the election and there's nothing NOTHING you can do to stop us.
>>674406293
If i have questions i use this fabulous new thing called internet search engines you should give it a try. If that doesnt produce results, i ask someone knowledgeable. So i actively look for solutions until waiting until shit hits the fan. I have plans for a variety of situations and catastrophes. Do you?
>>674406293
Yes, like a wild animal I used the Internet to find out information I didn't learn in school.I used my own bleeding fingers to tap the keys, even.
Isn't that insane? Maybe I should vote Bernie too!!
>>674405788
Cuck is used not in the literal sense. He isnt a man. He's metaphorically had his balls chopped off. He only stands up for things when it is easy. He panders to niggers and mentally retarded feminists. Most people want a strong and decisive leader. He has absolutely neither of those qualities.
>>674405898
So you just told me if you missed that short window your fucked. Are you even trying? And wasn't even talking about shool, I fucked myself on that, I was the med fag
>>674404647
Yet that jet will last the next 15 years with all the new fittings and tech that comes out. So spending a few billion on a few jets over the course of 15 years...not really that much if you spent a second to fucking think about it pleb
>>674404115
Same with Trump supporters
>oh help us Donal Dump. We dindu nuffin, it's the niggers, mooslums, and mexikins
Fucking Americans are all entitled and can't take responsibility for shit.
A pox upon both your houses.
>>674406798
Dude look up essay competitions for adults ONLINE youll find a shit load. Look up scholarships for your specific demographic, look up shit!
>>674406727
Fucking this.
I'm all for bitches feeling good, whatever.
But FEMINISTS should not be encouraged or pandered to. Bernie is grappling at the Burkenstocks of every hard les/trans/whatever and it's sick.
At least trump was a man at first, bern has always been a worm. He's going to let every mother fucker with a tan facefuck america.
You do know trump does not want a free internet right? He will allow ISPs to charge you more depending on the websites you visit.
>>674400761
Feel the Bern!
>>674407200
Because he will have that power
>fcc
>>674406727
Bernie is a literal cuckold though as he married a single mother and raised her kids. He literally has a wife's son.
>>674406847
We don't need a new fucking jet especially one that can't even fire it's main fucking gun until 2019 because of software issues and one that has never has a successful takeoff that money would be much better spend fixing out shitty roads and our even shittier internet situation.
>>674407303
That's all you got?
>>674406798
Holy FUCK
Welp, I missed highschool in a haze of drugs and dicks so I still want free money"
You should really just curl up and wither.
Don't even look for the TONS OF ADULT PROGRAMS ONLINE,LIKE COLLEGEBOARD OR ANYTHING, no just wit her away.
>>674406485
>>674406699
>>674406715
Why would I try to find alternative health care when obama care is already dirt cheap. don't look up what I don't need
>>674406943
Trump is pretty much everything the USA deserves right now.
>>674403025
>From somebody who lives in a country with free education
But presumably you're still in favor of free education since you claim you come from a country that provides them..
>>674407052
No bernbutt is going to 'google' anything.
Google is triggering.
>>674407564
fake and b8
>>674407481
I can tell you have no idea what Obamacare or the ACA is about.
FAG
>>674407393
>>674407052
Thanks I check those out but I habitually got Cs and under in english class so i never even thought that I stood a chance with those. I have no idea what makes a good essay.
>>674403889
>Hitler
>Socialist
I'm done. You know that muslims are the new jews?
>>674403889
Nigger how can you be this stupid?
>>674407696
I know I pay7 dollars a month and my 1000+ dollar prescriptions are only 20 dollars
>>674407489
Agreed
>>674407898
So what are you looking for? Ways to make money? Insurance? What? If your just looking for a job, there is a plethora of freelance work on the internet
>if I don't need it RIGHT THIS FUCKING SECOND, I don't need to learn anything
about it
You poor delusional fuck.
>>674406601
Look at that hair, Jesus. Do you really want THAT as president?
>>674403889
Underage b
>>674402902
Yeah, because it totally makes sense that if you're good at running you should get a free education.
>>674408138
I bet you have a scooter.>>674408113
>>674408138
So your insurance is "obamacare"? No you either have medicaid, or some private insurance. All obamacare did was lower so entry walls for people, amd fine your ass if you didnt get insurance
>>674400761
You're the normie.
>>674407959
Hitler as a national socialist.
Are you kidding me? Are you for real?
>>674408256
Wut?
>marxist
Yep. OP is dumb as fuck.
>>674408256
If you put in the effort and aren't a fat waste of space, yes. You provided people with entertainment and that provided your school with money. So you get a reward.
You've never heard of a reward because you've never done anything so I can see why you are confused.
>>674400761
>Make /b/ Great Again!
/b/ is and will always be shit. That's why Trump fans thrive here
>>674407959
>>674408113
Hitler was a socialist, that's a fact. Bernie and Hitler are both socialists. I know facts are triggering to you libshits, but you're going to have to deal with this one.
>>674407495
Free education can be great, if your country can afford it, and can achieve it without literally fucking everything else in the process.
It is a good system here, but far from perfect. Too many shitheads doing "art" degrees, and interpretive dance courses. Many of them never graduate, and never find careers that make use of their skills.
We also train up a lot of filmmakers, actors, dancers, musicians, etc, who leave the fucking country for their careers.
The system needs to focus purely on practical education choices: business, law, medicine, engineering, mathematics, computing, etc... But it doesn't, because lefty idiots.
>>674402883
Yup, I'm ok with having the most powerful military in the world.
>>674408365
Don't get into that argument with them.
They won't know what the fuck your talking about homie..
>>674408182
No i have no problem with work or school some anon thought I was but I just dont want to pay some expensive insurance to stay alive if trump gets in office, obamacare is cheap as shit.
>>674400761
>Great Again
/b/ was never good
>>674408555
>not understanding the broad spectrum of capitalism and socialism
Your binary thinking is a bigger handicap than you think.
>>674408555
>Unfair Salaries
>Jews didn't get paid in concentration camps
I mean that's fair cause we dont pay animals for work.
>>674408555
Nigger please http://europeanhistory.about.com/od/germanyandprussia/fl/Was-Adolf-Hitler-a-Socialist-Debunking-a-Historical-Myth.htm
>>674401133
>>674403188
Dubs combo
Checkd
>>674400761
Well he is more than a SJW, he is a SJK and /b/ is a place with hoards of fake SJWs/people from other sites so obviously they want him crowned.
>>674407959
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party
>The National Socialist German Workers' Party, abbreviated NSDAP), commonly referred to in English as the Nazi Party (/ˈnɑːtsi/), was a political party in Germany
Some other famous socialists include Joseph Stalin and Pol Pot.
>>674405526
Kek! that fucking picture is hilariously accurate.
>>674400960
Good one
>>674408738
Trump wants to dismantle the arbitrary rules that keep insurance from leaving certain regions. Once these rules are down, insurance companies will be able to be bought by everyone in the country. This will lower the prices because they will no longer have a monopoly on the region they cover. This will lead to lower costs and we will still have decent coverage. Also it sounds loke you have a version of medicaid, medicaid isnt going anywhere
>>674409040
Who are the murderous dictators of the Nordic countries then, following your logic?
>>674408365
>>674408678
Is right I have no idea how any of this works, but Ill burn that bridge when I get there.
>>674401133
Changing my vote to bernie
>>674409160
No one is even going to acknowledge this but I will.
This.
>>674408814
>About.com for source
>literally picking the one google result that suited your view and ignoring anything to the contrary
>pretty much demonstrating that you know nothing of the subject
>>674409427
>The post I replied to didn't do the same.
>>674400761
I love how cuck, jew, and marxist, are the three terms you used to describe ole bern and you then complain about "normies". Either get off the "JEWCUCKCOMMUNIST" bandwagon or form your own opinion you hypocritcal "normie" pleb.
>>674409160
Thanks for the knowledge drop man
>>674402660
wouldn't that be better than waiting for the trillions dollar student loan bubble to pop?
>>674409786
Unless you make over $250.000 a year you will not see one bit of the tax increase.
>>674409786
>student loan bubble pops
>fuck, well looks like we have to erase all that debt
Shiggittydigitty
>>674409952
Lies
>>674410040
>>674403002
> openly shows how Bernie will increase US debts with no plan to fix current deficites.
Fucked.
Rip usa.
>>674410178
Oh an infograph that shows a plan that isnt in action, im totally sold!
>>674410178
Nothing is going to happen. Congress is never going to pass anything he proposes. He's never passed any of his own bills in Congress. You might as well elect a sock puppet.
>>674400761
Go back to trumps Facebook page faggot-)
>>674403470
Link to whole vid please?
>>674410256
it's not Rip because rabbi Bernard is losing and Donald Trump is winning. There is still hope. We can make America Great Again! Trump 2016
>>674410662
Look up infowars trump protestors st louis
>>674410861
Trump is only "winning" because he panders to the inbreds of this nation.
>>674410875
>infowars
THEY'RE TURNING THE FREAKING FROGS GAY
>>674407959
Lel
>>674411209
So niggers, beans, and whites.
K
>>674410178
we live in a plutocracy. Those changes will never come to a vote. Our system depends upon keeping us poor bastards believing that we can one day become wealthy too (American Dream bullshit), even though it's a complete impossibility.
Kind of like Christianity was used to keep the slaves in line.
>>674400761
How do i upvote this?
>>674411677
I know that I just want a president would will tell you he is getting fucked every step of the way.
>>674411594
No I'm talking about the dumbass redneck fucks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VbHUI1R3IA
Bernie, a master cuck
>>674411899
>implying blacks can't inbreed
>implying theiron aren't blacks voting for Trump
>implying St Louis is filled with rednecks
Missouri has an asset load of blacks. I used to live therected and the fact that Trump won thier blows my mind to this day.
>>674401133
Well that's one good reason not to vote for him then.
>>674404959
Oh fuck off you pathetic retard! Bernie is fucking done and you just gotta deal with it. Now time for a juicy Trump dump motherfuckers!
>>674412693
Even trump realizes legalizing marijuana could help him win
>>674403002
He does plan on raising taxes for those making <$20,000. Those people are already a drain on our economy. Taking more money won't help.
Can someone please explain why bernie supporters are always labeled "cucks" when bernie has terrible terrible polling numbers when it comes to african americans. In fact if we were to take the polls at face value, bernie is the anti-black candidate.
>>674402660
Instead of raising taxes, he might divert taxes from shit like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_R._Ford-class_aircraft_carrier to flip the bill.
>>674411224
Ugh
Youre the worst
>>674400761
I'm not too versed regarding American politics, but does this guy even still have a chance?
Everything I hear it's always Clinton wins this Clinton wins that
>>674413166
Welp there goes all those jobs
>>674413381
He has a good chance of winning the Republican nomination which is what is happening now. It is primary season, this means each party is choosing their nominee to run in the gen election.
>>674413592
>He has a good chance of winning the Republican nomination which is what is happening now
Huh
We ARE talking about Bernie Sanders here aren't we
>>674413440
dey tuk er jabs
>>674413147
Confusion. Confused voters spoils democracy.
>>674413861
Oh yeah. No clinton has bernie stomped
>>674413592
your full retard is on
>>674413862
>implying it isnt a valid concern
>>674414070
>>674400761
im voting for hillary just because we had a nigger as a president itsw time to have a woman. could care els what she wants.
>>674414177
Hurrr
>>674414070
The largest expense "free medicare" could someone explain to me. medicare if free health insurance to seniors right? My mom has medicare and its free its covered by the goverment right now, so whats going to change exactly that will cost 15 trillion dollars?
>>674403156
This is why I wonder. Everyone fails to see the bigger picture. Distributing wealth is the best way to maintain a safe society. There are dozens of examples in history how empires fell because of greed and unequal wealth distribution.
>in other words: less niggers polluting the streets and you pay for security by taxes
>>674400761
Fucking summer started early this year. GTFO
>>674400761
He thinks the biggest problem we're currently facing is climate change. That's it, I want some focus on that. Don't really care for the rest, I don't expect him to get everything but an extreme stance would be a step in the right direction. I just hate that he's reduced to "free college."
>>674414391
Medicare is a stand in phrase for single payer, because thats what medicare is.
>>674403156
Actually I think we need to support what I call "semi-skilled" labor, things like mechanics, hvac techs, entry level help desk positions etc etc. jobs like these should have slightly higher wages then minimum and if the majority of people at least obtained this level of employment instead of fastfood/walmart we might have a chance at saving the middle class.
>>674408555
Checked. I would honestly vote for him. In today's world I think he would fair better (not eating nightshade everyday for example) then he did in his own time. He message, as well as his actions, helped the german people immensely. If it weren't for the whole jew thing and piss poor military leadership he would go down as one of the greatest leaders in history.
>>674408215
I don't know. I've never not voted for someone because of their fucking hair you dumb nigger.
>>674402660
>>674402883
Fucking rekt you faggot
>>674408555
God damn nigger
We are Socialists, enemies, mortal enemies of the present capitalist economic system with its exploitation of the economically weak, with its injustice in wages, with its immoral evaluation of individuals according to wealth and money instead of responsibility and achievement, and we are determined under all circumstances to abolish this system ! And with my inclination to practical action it seems obvious to me that we have to put a better, more just, more moral system in its place, one which, as it were, has arms and legs and better arms and legs than the present one !
"Thoughts about the Tasks of the Future", by Gregor Strasser - 1926 June 15
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Gregor_Strasser
>>674401133
Trump is okay with weed being legalized state by state.
You should vote for Trump then.
>>674404044
You could also vote Trump for that. He wants the same thing, but without the other free shit Bernie would give out for no reason without being able to afford
>>674400761
He is NOT Marxist, NOT senile, and if you knew how much stock market safeguards have been stripped to send more money to the top you'd understand why what he is saying is so important.
The entire news media, and years of corporate control has taught us to trust giant corporations to control our lives for us, and that would be fine if this kept jobs increasing, and helped provide better opportunities for those who haven't inherited millions in income but the fact is most people were not born lucky, and see their future as a tunnel with no light at the end of it.
People are realizing previous generations didn't have to depend on credit to survive with basic food, and living. People want Bernie Sanders to put stock market safeguard regulations back in place, and have honest conversations about corrupt politicians taking corporate bribery that keep trillions flowing to the top instead of rebuilding our country to make it stronger. If our country falls apart, people lose hope, and our country becomes easier to destroy by terrorists wishing to unravel our country from within.
>>674402660
>>674402902
>>674403025
>>674406020
Making college more accessible monetarily is an investment in the future of the country, so we don't produce so many retards that are limited by their lower level of education. Not to say that there aren't any retards that come out of college, though.
>>674406419
>>674406307
EVERYONE cares about themselves and their family. Anyone who pretends to care so intimately with everyone is plain lying. The difference is with capitalism BOTH parties only cooperate if they will BOTH benefit from the agreement.
What is more morally sound than capitalism? nothing just yet.
Socialism would work in a world full of perfect people but we arent perfect. The people who start the socialism trend may be good people - but who will wield the immense power of a centralized government down the line? who can guarantee that a tyrant will not inherit that power?
you cant be sure unless we are run by some super AI. So socialism has its place.. just not now.. just not for humans.
now fuck off and learn something you hippies
>>674403002
>making college "free" magically generates revenue
>paid medical leave magically generates revenue
>medicare, an already broken system which is hemorrhaging money like a stuck pig, for everyone will magically generate revenue
You're a fucking idiot if you believe this nonsense.
>>674415334
Then focus on prumary education. It is already free. Rework it so a highschool degree is comparable to a bachelors today
>>674415464
This. We need a complete rework of our school system. we need to focus on children's aptitudes and vocational training much earlier than we do.
>>674406307
Workers only care about themselves and fuck everyone else.
Look I can do it too
>>674400761
Socialism defeats Trumpism.
How can YOU vote for a capitalistic know-nothing who demands a loyalty oath, just like Hitler?
You neo-fascisists are sickening.
>>674415334
>monetarily is an investment in the future of the country
So why make everyone pay for it if it's an investment? Why not have the individuals who WANT to go to college take personal responsibility, instead of just assuming everyone wants/needs to go?
>>674400960
>>674407303
kek that true?
>>674416009
>Hitler
b-but s-senpai h-hitler was socialist, national socialist to be precise
>>674408456
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
>>674415330
So much honesty.
>>674415809
Except for the fact that you are WRONG.
Proletariat are a collective, and act as such, since they are much stronger United against their oppressors.
>>674408765
He literally was a fucking socialist tho you retard.
>>674409213
You mean aside from the mass white genocide happening there?
Socialism kills
>>674407959
Do you even know what NAZI means?
Fucking hell, Berniefags are so out of touch with the subjects they're so passionate about.
>>674416009
How can you vote for a socialist who hates capitalism, just like Hitler?
>>674407650
what's scary is that I've had bernie supporters seriously tell me this
>>674416698
>Death
>Comics
Pick one.
so mad
>>674416059
you would at least want to make it more affordable for people to go to college. It used to be possible to pay your way through college in the 90s and earlier working a part time job, as opposed to taking out loans and getting fucked in the ass by debt after managing to graduate.
>>674416272
Nazism is the opposite of Socialism.
Idiot.
Read a book on political philosophy, nazifag.
Socialism is egalitarian and universalist.
Nazism is exclusive and exclusionary.
You don't know jack about geopolitics.
>>674416059
Fucking this
>>674415330
>>674416409
samefag
What was said was stupid.
>years of corporate control has taught us to trust giant corporations to control our lives for us
>so instead of believing we need corporations to take care of us (whatever the fuck that means), lets ACTUALLY have the government control our lives for us!
>most people were not born lucky, and see their future as a tunnel with no light at the end of it.
So jealousy is your game? Got it.
>People are realizing previous generations didn't have to depend on credit to survive with basic food, and living
Most people don't need that now. Where do these bernieniggers get this stupid idea that a vast majority of Americans are failures who survive on minimum wage and are starving because of it? Must be that jealousy thing in order to get a higher minimum wage.
> have honest conversations about corrupt politicians taking corporate bribery that keep trillions flowing to the top instead of rebuilding our country to make it stronger.
You mean what Trump is doing as well? So why Bernie? Minimum wage thing again?
>If our country falls apart, people lose hope, and our country becomes easier to destroy by terrorists wishing to unravel our country from within.
Bernie wants to take in these "terrorists", Trump wants to implement already existing immigration laws.
Everything you said makes almost no sense.
>>674400761
THEY CANT HELP IT. THEY ARE BRAINWASHED ZOMBIES.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g
>>674416417
They're not being oppressed.. they're in a mutual agreement with their employer.
they both GAIN from the arrangement. They employee gets pay and learns on the job experience he can use to further his own interests in future. The employee gets a worker to further pursue his own interests.
Please clarify how the employer is being the oppressor
>>674400761
ITT: Liberal cucks that have a tab of black bull porn open while defending Bernie in this tab
>>674417151
Bernie supporters are NOT liberal in the classic sense of the word though.
liberals are for individual freedoms, equal opportunity (not results) and are not cuck socialist communist faggots
>>674416912
>you would at least want to make it more affordable for people to go to college
College WAS affordable. It was for a very long time. Do you want to know what fucked it up?
The government got involved and allowed people to get guaranteed student loans. Colleges were flooded with students taking out loans, never paying them back, and then colleges needed to make their money back somehow. Now, college is a money sink where people are almost forced to believe they need to go. Shit, I just took out a $40,000 loan for PA school from the government and all I had to do was read a few educational pages on the internet.
>It used to be possible to pay your way through college in the 90s and earlier working a part time job, as opposed to taking out loans and getting fucked in the ass by debt after managing to graduate.
See above. I completely agree.
>>674402883
racist white people are afraid to give black free education because they know when black people get the same tools to compete the blacks win every single time! black educated people WIN.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqcX_tpQu3U
>>674400761
ITT: Fullscale damage control by corporate plutocrats by way of paid plant propaganda.
>>674417478
we wuz kangz n shieet
>>674416581
Once again, for the political idiots:
Socialism is universalist and egalitarian.
Nazism is exclusively for the "master race" & excludes ALL others.
Do you not read history?
The first people Hitler imprisoned were the Socialists and Commumists.
If AH was a "Socialist", why would he imprison Socialists?
You don't even know what a Socialist is!
>>674417478
>black people
>free education
If blacks are superior, why do they need everything provided to them whereas white/indian/chinese people pay for their education?
>>674417739
>>674416976
>implying im nazi
top. fucking. kek.
also
nazism stand for national socialism, or nationalsozialismus you fucking cuck, and no, not every socialism is exacly the same just like communist socialism is difrent than national and democratic
>>674417315
I think you need to cram a few more empty Republican buzzwords in there.
>>674400761
We need to get money out of politics. No one else was talking about Citizens United until Bernie started talking about Citizens United.
We need to do something about climate change.The other guys are basically bought up by the fossil fuel industry. The only person with any credibility is Bernie Sanders.
The rich need to start paying their fair share. We need to increase taxes for investments, not income. The middle class bailed out Wall Street in 2008. It's time Wall Street paid us back.
This isn't about getting "free shit" this is about income redistribution. At a time when the top 10th of the top 1% owns more wealth than the bottom 90% this isn't socialism, this is fairness.
>>674402291
You fucking moron. You'd pay more in taxes over your life than in student loans.
>>674417739
SOCIALISM HAS NEVER BEEN ATTEMPTED
oh fucking wait, it has, and it costs millions of lives taken by their own centralized governments every time
the evidence is there. greater standards of living for the average man has only increased where the individual is free to pursue his own capitalist interests
dont forget what made us great.
>>674417910
>calls others cuck
>is cuck himself
>>674417128
>Everything you said makes almost no sense.
You give nothing reasonable explanation to support your claims, so your claims make no sense.
I give general basis to understand the gravity of what is happening.
When people realize their future is rigged to fail from the start, that the rules favor people who have already been provided wealth with no effort to gain it, then use that wealth to favor elites while our living standards fall for the rest it is clear our country is doomed to fail, and fall apart giving terrorist an easy prey to devour.
If we continue as we are America with become a country of a few elites who will allow the rest of us to perish in poverty.
>>674417816
niggers are always in oppositions to governments war power should not be used against the niggers
>>674417739
Nazism has nothing to do with race. Nazism = National Socialism.
>>674417478
UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH
https://youtu.be/-dY77j6uBHI
Hillary fags
>>674417955
But he's right. Classical liberalism is simply individual freedom, not imposing your feels on others.
>>674417955
>2016
>individual freedom and equality of opportunity means so little to you that they are classed as buzzwords
You are a depressing generation. you have no fucking idea how rare free civilizations like ours are. you have been spoiled by the times and do not realise how quickly nations can turn to tyranny and misery
>>674418007
>We need to get money out of politics
Agreed, which is why Trump is such a good candidate.
>The rich need to start paying their fair share.
The rich already pay a higher income tax rate than Sweden, which Bernie highly looks up to.
>We need to increase taxes for investments
Explain.
>The middle class bailed out Wall Street in 2008
No. The GOVERNMENT bailed out Wall Street. Now you want to give the GOVERNMENT more control. Ludicrous.
>We need to do something about climate change.The other guys are basically bought up by the fossil fuel industry.
Right, and being bought out by the multibillion dollar "green energy" companies doesn't happen.
>The only person with any credibility is Bernie Sanders.
Why? Because you say so?
>This isn't about getting "free shit" this is about income redistribution.
So in other words, "free shit" for you.
Fucking Berniefags are so greedy.
>>674418143
welp, loks like you won this internet argument, well done sir, you can add it to the list of your accomplismhents, good bye
>>674418441
>you have no fucking idea how rare free civilizations like ours are
Fucking this.
>>674418130
Socialism has been tried. And it works.
That's why firefighters will put out your house for free if it ever catches fire. That's why police protect you and your family without charging a fee. It's why we have roads, social security and medicare.
We pay for all that with taxes, and it makes everyone's life better. If it means I have to pay a little bit more in taxes and not have to pay a premium on my health insurance then I'll take. Because it makes everyone' life better. There are countless other things that need to be socialized as well because they would benefit all of society. Education included.
>>674402883
>books will cost about $500
>I'm still paying for college!!!!
Kek
>>674400761
>normies
>"get out of my special club!!! you arent cool like us!! you dont even know our MEMES!!!
>>674418007
Fair share... you're a moron.
The top 1% pays 47% of the income tax
>>674400761
Alright, when are you leaving?
>>674403188
>rediculous
Sure make a strong argument there, just not for the side you want to win.
>>674403470
Don't insult Columbia with this fucking scum
I love their winter gear
>>674418147
>You give nothing reasonable explanation to support your claims
>despite everything he actually said, I'll just ignore it and say it's unreasonable
You're such a slimeball.
>When people realize their future is rigged to fail from the start
No it's not. What gives you this idea? Are people fucking crawling around in the streets all over the country? What does this even mean? Do you think before you type?
> that the rules favor people who have already been provided wealth with no effort to gain it
This is ironic, because you want to gain wealth via taxes from people richer than you, which in turn just means you want rules that favor you with no effort to gain it.
>then use that wealth to favor elites while our living standards fall for the rest it is clear our country is doomed to fail
WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS IDEA THAT AMERICA IS SOME 3RD WORLD SHITHOLE? Have you looked outside? Are you brainwashed?
> giving terrorist an easy prey to devour.
By allowing them in without background checks, like what Bernie wants? Okay.
>If we continue as we are America with become a country of a few elites who will allow the rest of us to perish in poverty.
You're ridiculous. Enough of this appeal to emotion shit. You clearly have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
>>674418828
Ask the 20 million who Stalin killed if it works.... oh wait.
>>674403434
>>674403889
Please kill yourself.
I am an MD/PhD student in the graduate phase of my training. Just about everyone I know at the medical campus, be it medical/graduate students or physical/professor faculty, support either Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton. The very few outliers I have spoken to are extremely fiscally conservative and would favor a Rubio or Kasich presidency.
Donald Trump and Ted Cruz are fucking jokes.
>>674408113
>>674408227
>>674419124
>>674418828
>social security and medicare
These are horrible things.
Fire and police are a normal function of government. Both uphold structure of a community.
>inb4 hurr firemen use to be privatized
Yes I know.
>>674418851
You gots to turn off the Faux. it's made you retarded.
>>674400761
It's better to be a cuck, then to actually be fool 'nuf to believe those that tell you Big Bill's Cock only hurts when it first goes in. But you gaped MAGAs are already accustomed, so keep taking it dry. Hillary only proposes lube.
>>674402883
>The results of years of public spending on education
Yeah let's take more money away from security, job creation, job training, and r&d, and throw it all at public education.
>>674419355
>public education
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqcX_tpQu3U
I think it's great that the wealthy American elite don't pay tax and manipulate politicians because it means most of you dumb fucking amerifats get to suffer. HAHHAHAHA
>>674417138
Ignorance is deadly.
The laborers are compelled to sell their labor for wages in a capitalist system.
They do not own the means of production nor do they profit from their labor.
Only the owner profits. And is not obligated to reward those who worked for the owner.
The wages are far lower than the VALUE of the labor done by the worker.
When unions are kept out, the worker becomes a lone agent compelled to go where they can find work.
Working for another person's wealth, having no vested interest in what is being produced creates alienation in the worker.
>>674404285
Fucking kek
>>674418489
If you think that Trump has your interests at heart then I've got news for you. He's a billionaire. He's only in it for himself, not your well-being.
Investment income is any income from things you own, for example if you own an apartment building, the rent people pay you counts as investment income. Currently investment income is taxed at 15%. That's it. If you're rich most of your money comes from investments. Effectively you end up paying a lower tax rate than those who pay income tax (the rest of us who have jobs instead of real state and exchange stocks)
>>674419262
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/04/13/top-1-pay-nearly-half-of-federal-income-taxes.html
Cnbc liberal link... oh fuck.
>>674417478
>dindu nuffins
blacks already have free education
but you nignogs would rather sit on the corner, blame every other race for your failures
>>674419227
>i almost have a meaningless degree from a liberal institution, and everyone here is liberal except for people who know how to handle money
Ok
>>674400761
The whole autistic population of /b/ thinks that any of this bullshit actually matters. Do you really believe that the elite hasnt already picked their puppet for the high stool?
A vote for Trump is a vote for the lulz!
>>674402291
You get free tuition, maybe, but your pay coming out of college? Decimated by tax hikes. So you'll be working for less money than some kid who's doing the same thing you want to be doing today, Then imagine inflation. Bernie can't do much to fix that since the fed is already at wits end recovering.
Economics is tough if you don't think beyond 5 minutes.
>>674419716
> He's a billionaire. He's only in it for himself, not your well-being.
What more does he have to gain? Why do you greedy liberals always assume that people who are rich must have only become so because they wrong their way to the top? What makes you say he doesn't care when he has said many, many times that he wants to bring jobs back, secure our border, and repeal one of the biggest disasters in insurance history (ACA)?
Do you think Bernie really gives a fuck about you? What makes him different? Because he licks your earlobes with promises of gumdrop forest and chocolate milk rivers? Give me a fucking break. You need to start thinking more logically and stop using your feelings so much.
>Currently investment income is taxed at 15%. That's it. If you're rich most of your money comes from investments. Effectively you end up paying a lower tax rate than those who pay income tax (the rest of us who have jobs instead of real state and exchange stocks)
Why do you think these laws exist to benefit ONLY rich people and not EVERYONE involved in an investment?
You're literally just spewing the shit you've heard from your professors, aren't you? What a fucking clown.
>>674417910
Dear idiot:
Just because nazis had the word "socialist" in their name DOES NOT MAKE THEM socialists!!!
Explain what egalitarian and universal policies the German fascists espoused and practiced.
>>674420274
It's Facebook and reddit.
Kid isn't even old enough to vote, I'd wager.
>>674419716
>>674418489
I don't want to give the government more control. I want to make sure they are accountable to the people, not to Wall Street. That's why we need to get rid of citizens united. Corporations are not people. They shouldn't be allowed to donate unlimited amounts of money to elected officials nor political candidates.
As far as the multibillion dollar green energy companies, I'd like you to point me to them, I'm not familiar. Most green energy comes from Shell and other companies that already own fossil fuel. They don't want to divest from oil drilling, etc because it would hurt their profit.
I have nothing against capitalism nor companies making money, but when their money making puts our planet and our life in danger then I draw the line.
>>674419957
Sadly, you are probably correct.
But which puppet?
>>674417739
National socialism is what...nazi...stands...for... are you trolling? You're trolling. 7/10 you got me.
>>674419028
>You're such a slimeball.
You've insulted me, and I haven't insulted you. I give reason, you supply insults.
>No it's not. What gives you this idea? Are people fucking crawling around in the streets all over the country? What does this even mean? Do you think before you type?
Yes, people are, and this will only increase as fewer jobs are provided, and wages remain below rates to accommodate living standards.
>This is ironic, because you want to gain wealth via taxes from people richer than you, which in turn just means you want rules that favor you with no effort to gain it.
If those at the top suffer from losing a few extra trillion, and have say 10 houses instead of 20, I believe that is a fair trade. If they won't stimulate our economy willingly some of that wealth must be redirected to strengthen our country.
>WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS IDEA THAT AMERICA IS SOME 3RD WORLD SHITHOLE? Have you looked outside? Are you brainwashed?
It is becoming one as cost of living increases, and pay remains static, while jobs are being exported to slave waged third world countries. It is only a matter of time, with the way the system is currently set.
>By allowing them in without background checks, like what Bernie wants? Okay.
As our country becomes weak, and people in our country become more desperate this makes it easier for terrorist to gain access.
>If we continue as we are America with become a country of a few elites who will allow the rest of us to perish in poverty.
>You're ridiculous. Enough of this appeal to emotion shit. You clearly have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
You do not seem to accept the honesty I've given you, even when providing supportive information, so you provide more insults instead.
>>674419590
LMAO what is this fucking bullshit
the worker AND the owner profits.
you think the owner is not entitled to his pay? The owner has found a way to create value for people, create a product that makes other people's lives better, risks his own money and time on creating a business. pours hours and hours of work into his own project - then has to hire people who AGREE to work for x amount. and you think the worker has the right to more money than the owner? what fucking planet are you on?
the worker is not obligated to stay working there, he can leave whenever he wants. If his skills are worth more than his pay - he will easily find work at a competitor's company. Or better yet if his skills and ambition outgrow that of a laborer he can take the same risks as his employers and try and make the world a better place with his ideas. The worker's labor is valued PERFECTLY - the free market and competition makes sure of this. The price of the product reflects the value it provides at that time. If the workers labor is worth more than his pay then he can easily find another job that pays better.
Im sorry is there any point trying to talk to a socialist? they seem so detached from reality
>>674420475
>As far as the multibillion dollar green energy companies, I'd like you to point me to them, I'm not familiar.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=green+energy+companies
http://fortune.com/2015/08/27/green-giants-freya-williams/
You berniefags are so fucking lazy, holy shit.
>>674417816
Because no one else on that list was forced to do labor without pa... oh....
Because they're the only ones on that list disenfranchised by racis-...oh wait...
Because their close knit cultural values don't propagate activities for their youths like academics, or complex music instruments like violins, or the necessity of earning. So we need to help them by giving them free things.
>>674420577
>You've insulted me, and I haven't insulted you. I give reason, you supply insults.
I gave reasons, slimeball. Stop acting slimy.
>Yes, people are
Please provide me the percentage of people who fit this category. I'll give you a hint, it's in the one hundredth of a percent.
>wages remain below rates to accommodate living standards.
No they don't. The average income is $40,000. How is this below the cost of living?
>If those at the top suffer from losing a few extra trillion, and have say 10 houses instead of 20, I believe that is a fair trade. If they won't stimulate our economy willingly some of that wealth must be redirected to strengthen our country.
So, again, it's okay only if you benefit. What a fucking joke.
>cost of living increases, and pay remains static
We aren't in stagflation. Where did you get this idea from?
>while jobs are being exported to slave waged third world countries
Something Trump wants fixed and Bernie seldom discusses.
>As our country becomes weak, and people in our country become more desperate this makes it easier for terrorist to gain access.
Such as allowing those from "terrorist" countries to just walk in with no checks like what Bernie wants. I am glad we agree.
>You do not seem to accept the honesty I've given you, even when providing supportive information, so you provide more insults instead.
Calling it as I see it. You have no clue what you're talking about.
>>674420274
Anyone who promises chocolate milk rivers has got my vote. Alas, Bernie isn't promising that. He's just promising to address the core of the problems facing our society today.
We should have a progressive tax rate for investment income in the same way we do for regular income. We should also add more brackets to our current tax system.
>>674420457
I already graduated from college actually. Currently working on my PhD in political science. You?
