>Turkey couldn't singlehandedly-destroy Russia in a week
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
>Turkey couldn't singlehandedly-destroy Russia in a week
TOP KEK SLAVSHIT!!!
Oh believe you me, us Turks are ITCHING for a war with Russia. We will fucking ANNIHILATE your dirty country. There wouldn't be a square meter of Russian soil that has running water, electricity, or petrol that isn't on fire, once our airforce and navy is done bombarding your defenseless country. Then, our army boys (we'd send the asylum-seekers and other mongrel races first) would swoop in, raping your women, and killing EVERY slavshit shit they see. When Turkey's done with you, we will have committed acts of genocide. Of course no one is gonna do shit about it
Your country is named after lunch meat. You're not shit, nigga.
like the armenian genocide ?
>>674007715
This
Fuck you got OP? You too busy applying aloe generously to the burned area?
>>674007523
Such delusions of grandeur
Peru is #1
>>674008060
Wrong
>>674008131
Expound
Serious question.
>>674007523
Stfu and get some proportions you dumb fuck turkey ain't shit compared to Russia are you fucking stupid? Go watch you American stupid movies fucking fat fuck
>>674007523
Wow.
Bring it... please
Why would turkey go to war against Russia?
Aren't they to busy providing weapons to ISIS?
>>674007523
Yeah dude do it, once hockey season is over I won't have anything to watch until football is back on.
>>674007523
There were epic sized empires who didn't stand a chance and you think your weak ass country could do shit to Russia?
>>674008407
Grow UP!!! We dont supply isis stupid fuck
>>674007523
Turkey gives me cancer. Your culture, your religion everything is pure shit
>>674007523
Here's my impression of turkey in a war with Russia.
>Nato
>NATO PLEASE
>NATO help us pls!
>>674008687
Ignorant fuck
Tyrkey is the 2. Strongest in Nato
>>674008888
Turkey is not even in NATO stfu
>>674008888
Lol
>>674008888
Checked!
>>674007523
That's one agressive turkroach.
>>674008888
>Thinks active personell even remotely equates to force projection in modern warfare.
You're only barely tolerated in NATO as a buffer zone to halt Russian expansion. You're just being used and your military is a joke. Even ISIS thinks so.
You're adorable mudslime.
>>674009646
>halt Russian expansion
But Russia and Turkey share no border.
>>674010226
Satellite States and pseudo-territories
>>674007523
The Third Reich, the most technologically advanced country of the second world war, and the only nation to conquer most of europe in less than a year couldn't defeat russia. RUSSIA! THE MOST BACKWARDS ASS SLOW TO DEVELOP WASTELAND SO CALLED MAJOR POWER OF THE GOD DAMNED WAR DEFEATED GERMANY! TURKEY WONT STAND A FUCKING CHANCE AGAINST THE RUSSIANS! THEY'LL JUST DRAFT ALL COUPLE HUNDreD MILLION RUSSIAN MEN INTO THEIR FUCKING ARMY AND CRUSH YOUR SHITTY LAND! Not only that but NATO would be on your ass too.
>>674007523
You faggots should get rid of your Islamist piece of shit president and remember your glorious ataturkian roots.
Then you can annihilate Russia or whatever.
>>674007523
NATO will cut you loose too. Please bomb Russia. I'd love to see what happens next.
>>674010733
Russia only has about 146 million people
Pppf. Turkey used to be just a daft little country that harassed any western woman who'd been taken they're on holiday by slimy men.
But now it's a full on Islamic theocracy.
How the West would laugh if you started a war with Russia. They'd fucking annihilate you.
>>674007523
>>674007523
>Turkey can win against Russia
You know there has been two bombings in the heart of the capital of Turkey in the last two months, right?
And you know Turkey couldn't even predict, let alone prevent it, right?
The Turkish government wouldn't even notice if all of the world's armies invaded Turkey at the same time.
Kek. Alright you turkish faggot. you better invade Russia before it gets too cold, Right germany? right? And you might want to build your own roads in the very rural middle of nowhere parts, right germany? Basically go ask germany what its like to invade russia before invading.
I bet the world leaders are debating this retarded ahit amongside you faggots in this thread
>>674007523
If your country is so good how come you fuckheads come to my country to claim benefits?
also how come turkish guys smell so bad?
EU here:
Turkey should invade Syria.
Go ahead, steamroll the whole country and you can keep it as a prize afterwards.
EU and US will support your decision.
Russia wont do jack shit about it.
>>674012624
I would love to see this! too bas they support ISIS :(
>>674012908
bad* god dammit!
>>674012908
> too bas they support ISIS
No.
They just oppose the Kurds and Bashar.
ISIS and Turkey are incompatible.
>>674007523
Top kek Turkroach. Looks like the roaches are getting full of themselves due to Erdogans successful foreign politics. I know that this is probably bait, but you do realize that the russian military doctrine includes using tactical nukes when invaded immediately, right?
>>674007523
You realize that you are an ant to a country like Russia.
Even the UK or France would eradicate such a weaken country that is Turkey. Plus forcing an exclusion from the ONU or even Euro and eviction from international market would kill economicaly Turkey however Russia would be stronger by the end of it.
Also do you realize that Russia has the biggest army in the world and one of the best trained with each soldier participating in close combat near Israel during trainings ?
They actually go to war so before talking you fag you should consider that Russia is not Armenia and that it won't let itself die over a stincky muslim country.
Russians are well known for talking much and doing nothing seriuos. They and their stone age equipment and poorly trained army has no chance against any modern country that is atleast 1/10 or even less their size. Pathetic useless human beings
>>674013617
Try to call med turkroach irl? Ill fucking smash your fucking teeth in fag. Meet me irl?
>>674013904
Oh shit, way to fucking go.
That was brilliant.
Tell Turkeyman his fears so he will fall fuck back in line.
>>674013904
>Even the UK or France would eradicate such a weaken country that is Turkey
HAHAHAHAHA
Uk or France can't eradicate jack shit.
>Russia has the biggest army in the world and one of the best trained with each soldier participating in close combat near Israel during trainings ?
The Russian army is a piece of shit.
Really, it is.
Nor do they have relevant combat experience.
The Russian army is so shit-tier, that they actually sent conscripts into the Chechen conflict.
The Russian army is small, underfunded, disorganized and poorly trained/experienced.
>>674014019
How rude!
>>674014019
>1v1 me irl i rek u m8
Also I always found it funny how all the german turks here constantly talk about how great Erdogan and his neo-fascist Turkey are, yet noone of them would even consider living there. Deep down, they know it's just a third-world shithole, no better than Uganda. The same applies to german russians who celebrate Putin, though.
>>674012274
>>674013904
So turkey shot down russian plane. What did your big badass country did? Nothing. They are getting more and more isolated, starting unions with such pro isis muslim countries as Iran. Italy (fucking pasta makaroni pussies) have a bigger fleet than the holy empire ruska matuska and is capable to take.it out from black sea. So why are we still talking
>>674014638
Gotta admit, shooting down an unaware plane was soooo badass!
>>674013617
> Turkroach
My fucking zozzles have been destroyed
>>674007523
What? IFUCKING TOLD YOU THAT I WANT A KABOB WITH A SPICY SAUCE. I wont pay for this
>>674014234
Just so you know : http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp
SOOOooooo yeah Russia is second.
UK and France are near too, let's check where the fuck is Thanksgiving meal, oh ! 10th position !
Do you just imagine that Turkey is out of the game since they didnt quite win the ww2, sorry dude everything your country will do will result in itself falling to knees broken and out for half a century...
>>674015030
Hes not talkng about the malaysian plane shot down over the ukraine by russians.
Hes tqlking about a russian fighter jet that flew over a section of Turkish territory, and which was shot down by Turkish jets there.
>>674014638
I'm not russian or even shitslav but i can see by my eyes that your country is allowing itself too much and that you'll pay for your fascist policy in the next years. However Putin isn't retarded as Erdogan and won't engage in a conflict like USSR did before.
>>674014010
The Nazis said that too.
>>674015260
>>your country
im not turkish
you assume too much. that is a weakness and a failure, ans shows low intellect.
>>674015394
lel i forgot about the malaysian plane, that was such a dick move! I don't remember them getting in trouble for it too!
>>674015605
The Nazis very nearly defeated the USSR.
In the end it was the Nazis own failed foreign diplomacy, such as involving the reluctant US in the war, and the winter of minus 40 degrees, and poor strategic decisions, that defeated them.
The USSR came within an inchmof its destruction.
>>674016229
And if turkey invaded it would have the same problems.
>>674016229
To be fair, Russia wasn't expecting a war
>>674016379
Let alone prepared in any way for one.
>>674015260
same listing shows syria as 42nd, yet look at how protracted the conflict is.
Erzerum Offensive
Fucking kek
>>674016774
Reported
How do you explain the countless losses against a backwards shithole russia when you have number superiority?
The only time when you weren't absolutely curbstomped by the russian war machine is when papa britain and mama france stepped in to prevent russia from fucking your shit up for the millionth time.
>>674016881
Itt mad turkroaches
>>674016379
>>674016656
USSR was already aggressing throughtout the Baltic and parts of SE Europe and in Poland.
USSR attempted to invade Finland.
People forget that the USSR was conquering/annexing/occupying countries simultaneously as where the Nazis.
I think its naive to think that both Hitler and Stalin did not trust the other.
The antipathy of the nazis towards the communists, and the communitst to the german fascists, is hardcoded into both ideologes.
The nazis rose tompower primarily as a violent anti-communist party.
Turkey is EU's India. POO IN LOO
>>674007523
Turkey. Lol.
We dare you. We will turn your stinking shitskin country into a bloody fucking crater. A smoldering rape wound in the ground, where a pathetic nation of outdated, obsolete Mongoloids once stood.
Once again.
>We fucking DARE you.
We'll fuck you so hard, Georgia will pity you.
Fucking faggot.
>>674017257
TURKROACH IN POO
>>674007523
Glory to Armenia
Turkroaches so mad they need to genocide an entire ethnicity to compensate for shitty and atrocious performance in its entire military history.
Turkroaches not long after the invasion..
>>674017463
>>>674017257
>
>TURKROACH IN POO
>>674007523
>>674017682
>Turkman marches into mountains to fight siberian troops in the snow.
>Most of them starve and/or freeze.
>Must be armenians fault.
>>674017868
Kek
>>674014010
Read a book, faggot.
>>674017313
Funny.
Most of the world considers russia a massive festering shithole of backwardness and slavic inferiors.And always have done.
Did you know that the Russian tsardom was infact founded by Vikings? The Rurikid dynasty is genetically demonstrated to have ruled in nobility for hundreds of years, only gradually being watered down into the resultantshorter lived Romanov dynasty.
Cockroaches are actually quite formidable creatures.
>>674014234
>poorly trained
Fucking Spetsnaz.
>Try harder
>>674018036
>thinking the tsars and the novgorod princes were the same thing.
Do people ITT really think Turkey might do anything against Russia or are they all trolls?
Honestly, I can't tell
TURKROACH IN POO
>>674018368
Do we need nukes to take down Isis?
Russia would anally rape you dirty scummy sand niggers.
>>674018265
A tiny section of the entirety.
Having a special division of trained and ruthless killers is not unusual, nor particularly difficult.
War isnt CoD. Spetsnaz isnt going to win any wars.
I'm actually curious about how Turkey is going nowadays, i heard some pretty bad shit about the new government.
About how the are oppressing the press and putting government mens as director to control it.
And there is rumors about some communication between Turkish agent and ISIS fighter...
>>674018447
GLORIOUS MASTERRACE TURKROACHES COULDN'T WIN AGAINST FILTHY SLAV WITHOUT BRITISH/FRENCH HELP
>>674018475
What does this question have to do with ISIS?
Also bomb ISIS then and stop supporting them
>>674018320
They are the same thing.
Almost the entirety of nobility in Russia was of Rurikid descent, for almost the entirety of its existance.
This is demonstrable genetically and through lines of succession.
>>674018540
Even a filthy russian wouldn't want to touch a turkroach with a ten foot pole.
With a mortar or rockets however...
>>674018540
Thats what the Nazis thought of Russians too.
Who wants to blow up the Turkroach embassy in LA, make sure to trap only the turkroaches inside.
One thing is certain, Turkey is never going to flat out attack Russia and risk annihilation. OP is just an edgy cockroach.
We need to call up uncle armenian the exterminator to help rid of this turkroach infestation
>>674018589
Turkey is maneuvering for its own interests.
It hates the Kurds and resists their dall for autonomy. They also hate Bashar in Syria. Everyone hates ISIS and does not want them as aneighbor.
Turkey also hates Russia and its meddling in the Black Sea area.
The EU is willing to cut deals with Turkey, to stem the hordes of refugees, and also as Turkey makes it possible to place more pressure on Russia, as Russian interests are opposed to those of the EU.
Turkey can also leverage its NATO position, which is an avenue of access for the US in particular to pursue politics against Russian expansion, which has always been tye function of NATO anyways.
>Turkroach in poo
fucking keking my ass off.
>>674011989
It was a blatant false flag by Erdogan, virgin
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did OP get his shit pushed in by a russian?
>>674019589
Don't laugh at their natural habitat
>>674019432
Thanks for the heads up m8
I hope these tension between Turkey and Russia wears off, a fight between them is just no good for this world....
>>674019905
SHOO SHOO t*rkroach
>>674007523
I used to be Russian all the time but then i set memwatch back 10mins and I'm on time for everything now.
>>674019956
Turkroaches*
>>674019905
SHOO SHOO t*rkroach
>>674020003
Make sure to cut it up first
>>674019905
SHOO SHOO t*rkroach
>>674020115
I'll take the Tsargrad slice
>>674010226
Kek, is this bait?
>>674019357
Armenians have a very impressive militarybhistory.
Even in the Ottoman period they where among the finest crackmtroops of the Caliphate.
But today, Armenia has far too many domestic economic issues to be a dontender in the area.
Hopefully someday again, they will become a bullwark of christian civilisation nestled against islamic incursion. Hopefully with a western bent, as the Russians have certainly never been good to them either...
>>674019432
Turkey has ALWAYS done things only for itself. Remember the Ottoman Empire ? These bitches just wanted to invade the world. Now they are weak as fuck and believe they are still a powerful nation.
>>674007523
Congrats Turk-anon.. you just showed how inbred your bloodline is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocW3fBqPQkU
>>674019905
>SHOO SHOO t*rkroach
>>674020324
Turkey was always weak, from the earliest ottoman empire to present day turkroach poo hive
Obvious bait is obvious.
Funny thing is, you mudslimes actually think you have a chance at EU membership.
Turkey would lose to greece, it's military is a sad joke
>>674007523
turkey fucks with russia, you wake up the sleeping dragon, only armegeddon comes from that
>>674020548
At the time they took Constantinople they were one of the most powerful nations of the world. Then they fucked up.
>>674020641
Its loosing to other mudslimes. It cant even hold its own border from the kurds, and those fuckers are mountain goat shaggers using equipment from the 60s.
>>674020641
Turkey feels national pride with shooting down a rusty jet held together with duct tape and wd40, when just a couple of years ago the Grecian airforce did the same with a turkroach spy plane, they were butthurt for months
>>674020786
It took them 4 centuries to do that. At that rate they'd take Russia by the time 40k rolls around
>Turkroach in Poo
#Iwasthere
>>674019956
Turkey is become the key to the region.
In many ways, the decisions revolving around Turkey, not Syria, carry the greatest risk of the beginnings of a WWIII.
Tueky is also radicalizing rapidly in a very schitzopjrenc way. There are strong elemets of ultra-religious and ultra-nationalistic forces working in paradoxic alignment, to curtail the legacy left by Ataturk.
Turkey, historically, was the seat of the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire, and christian.
Then the seat of the Otttoman Caliphate which extended almost thousands of years, and muslim.
Under and following Ataturk, it wanted to become a westernised, civilised, secular nation.
Its difficult to get accurate representative information out of turkey. Its behaviour is erratic.
>>674020786
Powerful only somewhat relative to equally retarded HRE and other central european princes/nations
>>674020975
They keep changing poo piles
>>674009037
You're wrong. Turkey sure is NATO member.
They can go suck on Vlad's pole again
>>674021017
Amen to that
>>674014638
>Russia forgets
>They wint retaliate eventually
>you dipshits arent the first the wipe of the earth when they get the chance
Kek
>>674021087
This guys rights!
Not
Another
Turkish
Offensive
>sarcastic
ITT: BUTTMAD TURKROACHES.
Did Erfagan pay you double daily poo rations to shitpost this?
>>674007715
Top kek
But hey, faganon! Go right ahead, attack thise ruskie bastards. We and NATO wont stand in your way! So go do it then, we will see how much the nato agreementactually means after the fact. Toilet paper is what im guessing.
>>674021191
>They can go get forced anal from Vlad's pole again
Ftfy
>>674021017
The Ottomans managed to retake and convert almost the entirety of the Byzantines glor days empire, from christianity to islam.
They made unceasing war in attempts to extend the empire further into mainland europe.
People dont realise this, but Islam has basically ALWAYS been aggressive towards and tried to invade into Europe.
The Spanish took hundreds of years to shake off the Moors rule in the Reconquista.
>>674021462
Trying this hard!
>>674018551
Do you even know what special forces are used for?
Think about that for a little bit and then you'll know they'll make/shape battles in war. They are the scalpel, the rest of the army is just the hammer.
>>674021462
But i though islam was a religion of peace :(
A couple of months ago. Turkey shot down a Russian Jetfighter and Russia didn't do jack shit about it.
Europe is paying 3.000.000.000 euro to Turkey to keep the refugees at the border.
Very bizarre , i for one would love to see the turkish fight with the russian. Just for my entertainement.
One would believe to think other countries are scared of Turkey
>>674010898
>>674009646
That is very very dumb comment. Do feel bad about you!
>>674021462
Ok.
>>674021622
They are scared of U.S, we just need to blow up the turkroach embassy in LA
>>674021505
Thats exactly what im saying.
Spetsnaz isnt going to win any wars.
In any case, Spetsnaz pales in comparison compard to the enormous USmspecial forces experience, funding and global proliferation in conjunction with a mindbogglingly large intelligence infrastructure.
Turkey is a Nato member.
Any aggression by Russia will be met with Nato resistance. And any aggression by Turkey against Russia will be backed, even if only indirectly, by Nato as well (and the EU for that matter.
>>674021586
>>674021735
>>674021844
Don't you dare stop
>>674007523
everyone knows, first comes vodka, then kebab
> sorry turkey
>>674021774
I think the U.S overestimates itself. Every war they fought. They lost.
WWII , they didn't do much , it was Russia who did it
Vietnam ? They lost
Irak ? Afghanistan ? They onley "won" because of taking out Osama Bin Laden and Sadam Hoessein.
>>674021462
>>674007523
Turkish Military:
18.2 billion US dollar budget
412,691 active military personnel
378.700 reserve personnel
149 naval vessels (excluding auxiliaries)
51 naval aircraft
668 Air Force aircraft
Russian Military:
84.5 billion US dollar budget (over 4 times more)
771,000 active military personnel (nearly twice as many)
2 million reserve personnel (over 4 times as many)
271 naval vessels (excluding auxiliaries) (nearly twice as many)
359 naval aircraft (7 times as many)
over 3000 Air Force aircraft (nearly 5 times as many)
63 military/intelligence satellites
Then there's the fact that Russia is, by an enormous margin, the largest country on the face of the planet. It is borderline impossible to occupy all of Russia. Especially with a tiny little bitch army like Turkey's. Then of course there are the natural barriers. Enjoy crossing the Caucasus and the Urals. Also the harsh winters which a bunch of sand niggers wouldn't know the first bloody thing about and probably freeze their tits off after the first frost of the season.
Turkey, please. Go to bed.
>>674022004
Jealous non american detected. Also you're a fucking idiot and you have no idea what you're talking about
>>674022187
yeah russia would steam roll turkey
>>674021851
Adding to this, Russia is walking a very precarious line at the moment.
In conjunction with the Ukraine situation, and Russias accusatory stance in the UN, Russia has basically forced the EU, Nato and parts of the UN to align themselves against Russia.
The harder Russia pushes in the middle east, and on Turkey, the uglier this is going to get.
Io the wise thing for Russia to do, would be to withdraw and focus on domestic issues, and improve its international relations.
A war with Nato and the EU will absolutely wreck the Russian economy.
I really hope Putin isnt so drunk on power, that he forgets that. Russian involvement in the middle east is just making their situatiin worse. They are gaining nothing out of it, except forcing more nwtions to side against them.
>>674022232
serious america spends more on its military then every other country combined
>>674022232
Off by one
>>674022187
Your numbers are incorrect.
Put a dot between power & com
http://www.globalfirepower com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=turkey
leave NATO then start a war with Russia
>>674021505
they're only called special forces because spastic forces isnt politically correct enough
>>674022244
hmmm, steamed turkey roll
>>674021851
Its certainly true (that america has a larger SF), but we van never truely know what they have hidden for us.
Not saying that they will win, but the same goes for every other country.
But I thought u were talking about them (spetnaz/SF) like they were useless and didnt matter in a "real war".
>>674022232
I'm the idiot , while your country gives you the choice to vote for sanders , trump or clinton ?
Fat fucking piece of hamburger.
>>674022524
sounds fucking delicious LMAO
>>674022004
You dont understand the monolithic size, funding and organisation of the US military and intelligence structure, and how far it has its influence insinuated globally.
Im not being a "murica fuck yeah", im just stating the facts.
Winning wars is not the objective.Destabilising regions and maintqining influence, weakening enemies, is.
The idea of "winning a war" is antiquated.
Especiallybif they are not being fought on your own soil.
>>674022524
Fugg I'm hungary now
>>674022187
Ofc, even with Natonsupport, nobody can conquer Russia.
But it can effectively block Russia off in the middle east and black sea.
Tuekey is far better positiined to dominate the region, than Russia is. If only to further isolate Russia feom the west and the bosphoeous.
>>674022666
Maybe that's the reason why Syria is going empty
>>674013359
Kek how dumb are you turkey is bombing the kurds who are fighting of isis so they don't cross the border and on top of that they are buying stolen oil from isis (this has been proven google it) cause that way they can get it cheaper. What turkey is doing is standing behind a dam and destroying it cause it looks shitty and hoping that by some miracle the water won't flow through the dam after it's gone. Turkey is going to drown and thanks to their shitty actions isis front will be on the european border in the near future.
>>674022585
Wait are you trolling? Are you 12? Whats going on here? Going from you not knowing shit about any conflict in the world or military to the presidential candidates?
Still better than whatever shit hole you come from buddy.
>>674007523
remember the rules of war
whatever happens bring america in at the very last minute, they like to say they won shit for other countries without really contributing at all
>>674022420
AHAHAHAH FAGGOT
So we have different sources, whatever. We'll use your source then. Russia still has twice as many active personnel, over ten times as many reserve personnel, five times as many tanks, 3.5 times as many aircraft, nearly twice as many naval vessels.
And lets look at this fun new statistic: 47 thousand barrels of oil produced per day with 296 million in reserves (Turkey) versus over ten million barrels of oil produced per day with 80 BILLION (with a B) in reserves (Russia).
Then of course there's the size, terrain, and weather thing I mentioned. Sit down, Babu, and accept the fact that Turkey sucks on Russia's fat cock.
There are 3 countries in this world that can really stack up to each other USA, China, and Russia. a war between either of them would probably end the world, any other country who would try to fight any of them will lose, badly
>>674023031
Mad europoor.
>>674022852
Russia already has a whole bunch of trade sanctions placed against it and it STILL has a growing GDP. They have oil, they have timber, they have water, they have grain, they have livestock. What could you possibly "block" Russia from getting that it doesn't already have? Just stop.
>>674018551
...... Russiqn military is basicly made out of countless variants of Spetsnaz.
>>674022187
Lol you meen the shit equipment of the second world war rusia still are using and that only the guys that are "elite" get some new stuff???
>>674023018
ye come to our countriy buuuuuddiiiiieeeee
once you've been lobotomized youll believe we are the best country in the world, like we do
go usa, go usa
>>674023031
If we don't contribute, then don't ask for our help.. Hurr..
>>674008532
Dunno about that even your allies seem to think you're the main source of IS weaponry.
>>674023280
Stay mad.
>>674008618
Kebabs ate pretty good... Shaves are alright... Can't think of other stuff
>>674023315
lol especially their allies
>>674008888
Haha yea second strongest if you group all the other members together.
ITT: Anons picture together how they would fite IRL while jerking their cocks
>>674007523
>>674022959
True, but none of that refutes what Im saying.
Turkey has Nato and EU backing and regional intersts.
Russia on the otherhand has nothing to gain from this.
Tbh its a bit of a mystery to me why Russia is even involving itself, except in an attempt to curtail Turkish expansion and interests, so as to secure for Russia its Black Sea region.
Imagine if Turkey cuts off transit of Russian materials through the Bosphorous and Istanbul.
The Russian black sea regiin would become completely isolated. Just a large pond with jo way out.
This in conjunction with the Ukraine/Crimea region.
>>674007523
How about fuck Turkey AND Russia? America nukes both, and China and North Korea and the entire Middle East sand-nigger land, establish New America where they once were, everyone's happy.
>>674023137
mad kek
for what
being the country you fear most
being the country you look upto the most
having a genuine history
winning actual wars and not pretending we do
knowing we can send ground troops in without losing em all
not making up our history and feeding shit to our kids
ye i'm mad bro
>>674023279
Soviet era Russia is long gone my friend. Russia has one of the highest GDP's on the planet... a booming and growing economy, and it pours billions upon billions of dollars every year on its military. You really think it costs 80 billion dollars a year to maintain B-52's? Guess again and don't be foolish.
This idea that Russia is some kind of post-Soviet slum is ludicrous. Look at the numbers, look at the facts. It's a G8 nation for Christ's sake.
>>674023239
Self-sufficiency is a myth in the current world.
The USSR already demonstrated the eventual economic collapse of an internationally isolated Russia.
>>674023685
Thnx fam really needed that didn't know how to say it better them Self hahahah
>>674023757
Too bad Russia will never be unilaterally isolated? You think just because the Turks kick up a fuss the Chinese are going to put a stop to their lucrative trade deals with the Russians. Please.
>>674023018
Still doesnt change the fact that USA lost every war they fought since the indepence wars
>>674023246
no, youve misunderstood.
spetsnaz is a different concept and organisation than western SF.
spetsnaz comprises large divisions of "specialised" forces, such as paratroopers.
Spetsnaz also has smaller distinct units for recon etc.
Its not really comparable to western SF.
>>674023730
FUCKING KEK what??? have you seen the state of the ruble? Russia is a fucking failing country
>>674007523
Shit Turkey, we meant to be on the same side and shit but fuck. Russia would rape you.
This is like being out on a Friday and your Girlfriend starts a fight with some 7ft Gypsy thug and its like fuck now I'm going to have to fight him because she started a fight she can't finnish.
>>674023913
China is already ass raping Russia.
Its buying up and colonizing huge swathes of resource rich territory in the Russian East.a
China doesnt give a shit about Russia, except as far as ts own interests go. Russia is very weak in the East, far more so than in its western expanse.
>>674015394
He's talking about the same thing, that russian jet was unarmed, such a big win for turkey topkek
>>674014010
The biggest mistake a country can do is to underestimate russian military power, you do realised its not the same as 30 or more years ago?
>>674023137
But is he wrong ? Go outside and play, if you dont start socializing when you are a kid it Will be Even harder when you grow up
>>674023982
Russia has the sixth largest economy in the world. Turkey has the 17th. Try again.
>>674024187
Yeah china would rape russia, they would never cross the US
>>674024427
They cross the United States every single day, what are you even talking about?
>>674023982
This.
The GDP figures are artificiql, and a temporary result of russians focusing instead on russian domestic product and consumption.
The real result, however, is that Russia is slowly being starved and stagnated by the limitatins on its growth in a global market.
It is forcing itself into isolation again, just like in the Soviet era.
I think Putin has lost the plot. It wipl get even worse after he is gone. The guybis holding Russia together singlehandedly.
>>674024407
Not true actually a single US state is larger economy then russia, Russia is a joke
>>674024496
>implying Putin is not the Eternal Supreme Leader of glorious Mother Russia
>>674024490
LOL in their own boundaries, you do see China getting close to US Land. But the US is right of their coast
>>674023982
Do you really believe you Will win the argument by spurting out bullshit?
Go outside and play kid
>>674024197
No, it was an armed fighter jey, engaged in attacking Syrian rebels around the peninsula of land in Turkish territory.
Whether deliberately ir accidentally, it flew over and through the Turkish slice of land, and was shot down.
Primarily because Russia has a long tradition of flying into othernations airspace without permission. The turks decided they had had enough, especially as it was atacking Turkish allies, and shot it down.
>>674024586
>a single US state
SO on the GLOBAL, INTERNATIONAL STAGE, that falls under the category of.... THE ECONOMY OF THE UNITED STATES
>Russia is a joke
>has a larger GDP than 190 other countries on the planet
>>674024496
Its becoming the biggest grain exporter, renowned its oil deals with China etc etc, only an uneducated idiot would write things you did
>>674024681
Do you* pro tip China cant even get close to the US without getting dogged
>>674024685
Sooo fuck ingevuld true
>>674019357
>lol
>>674014638
they have just bombed ankara
>>674024685
Ahaha no, it was a 10 years old unarmed bomber on a routine flight, good job turkey, such a military superforce
>>674024681
What are you Even talking about you fucking ausperger
>>674024590
Imagine if Putin ges disabled or dies of a heart attack.
Its almost impossible to speculate what wpuls happen in Russia after that.
Russia is, again, a na4ion ruled and directed by one autocratic ruler.
>>674024751
>acidobetal evidence that doesn't mean shit
>>674008888
nice quads
>self deluded population
>Leader thinks he can bring back the ottoman empire
>buys oil from ISIS who doesn't respect them in any fucking way
>scared of teenage girls because they aren't the same ethnicity
>national sport is gay oil wrestling
>Thinking they can measure up to 2nd military power in the world when they are 10th Behind fucking South Korea
>spending all day on reddit defending genocide
>the laughing will never stop
>>674007523
let it be known that this is Turkey's official national sport
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5HrPN4VwBA
>>674024769
China is getting the better end of the deal.
Its deliberately exploiting and profitting feom Russias economic isolation in the West.
Russia is the poor man in its deals with China.
It has no choice than to do business with the Chinese, onthe Dhinese terms.
idiots comparing military statistics thinking this is a video game.
>>674024884
>anecdotal evidence
>is literally a fact that Russia has the 6th highest GDP on the planet
>there are 196 countries on the planet
>is literally a fact that Russia has a higher GDP than 190 other countries
autism.
>>674024965
Soldiers killing civilians, so kewl and badass!
>>674007523
sure you could, buddy
>>674024919
seems gay
>>674024851
Wrong.
It was armed, and had already been involved in attacking the Syrian rebels (turkeys alles) around the slice of Turkish land.
It was not "routine", because the plane had no permission to flyinto Turkish airspace ovdr its own territory.
RT is feeding you bullshit, my friend.
>>674025020
tell me about it, like everything is determined by simple numbers. There are so many people here who think they know how war works but have no clue
>>674024997
Boy are you delusional.... Keep telling yourself that, its just a matter of time before russia comes to rape your uneducated boipussy
>>674025103
Because Armenian men were to gutless and beta to defend them.
>>674025095
>out of all those countries the US occupies 157 of them
check your shit niggah
>>674025226
What a weak argument.
Youve already lost.
China is ass-raping you with a smile, and you seem to enjoy it too.
>>674023641
being this retarded aint normal
>>674024965
>one of the largest nations taking their anger of being manlets and degenerates out on decent hardworking honest innocent civilians.
>having to compensate this hard
>>674025329
seriously they are
>>674023239
No more IPhones and Volkswagens for them!
The only true victors are Europa and China. Because Europa doesnt buy shit from Russia. American dollar needs oil nobody wants oil.
>>674025426
>europe
TOP KEK
>>674025329
how did i lose? you just proclaimed your fact without any evidence, pathetic
>>674025278
BAHAHAHAHA
ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED?
The USA have a PRESENCE in 157 countries they don't OCCUPY 157 countries you fucking sperglord. Just because there's a US embassy in Switzerland it doesn't mean the Swiss economy becomes part of the US economy.
When speaking on global terms, the Californian economy is non-existent. It is simply the US economy. Yes, California has a higher economy than many countries BUT IT IS PART OF THE ECONOMY OF THE UNITED STATES AS A WHOLE
Holy fucking autism.
>>674025426
The sanctions are hurting EU too, but nowhere on the level they are hurting Russia.
Lets be real here, Russias foreign policy and conduct is not doing them any favors.
They are just making things worse for themselves.
>>674025242
Pretty much like the "refugee" we have nowadays huh?
>>674024685
>as it was atacking Turkish allies
yeah, rebels and isis, both turkish allies i agree
>>674025508
I gave evidence. What I stated was facts.
You only gave empty insults and bravado.
How Russian of you.
Enjoy your ass raping.
>>674025150
wrong, it was unarmed, did not expect turks to actualy stab them in the back, it was a bomber meant for attacking ground targets and probably older than you are. so congrats on achieving such a heroic victory, didnt expect nothing else from a terrorist supporting, ISIS oild, goat raping country Turkey is today.
>>674024870
Can cyborgs have heart attacks?
>>674023633
Dude if you don't think that not actively trying to fight isis and bombing resisting forces while giving isis money isn't supporting isis then you're dumb as fuck. If im holding someone down so someone else can beat him up i'm not doing the beating myself but i'm sure as fuck helping the bully. Just vause they say theu don't support isis doesn't mean that that is not the reality of things.
>>674025520
The US has something close to 2000 military installations around the planet.
You really are frossly underestimating the staggering enormity of US military and intelligence presence around the world, especially in conjunction with its diplomatic force and influence.
The US is almost literally, everywhere on the planet, and involved or influencing atleast in small part, everything.
>>674025697
you did not give a single source of information, you just claimed some shit on an anonnymous image board, good for you, you adorable basement dwelling homo
>>674025858
What in the mother fuck does this have to do with Russia having the 6th largest GDP on the planet? Jesus fuck you've confused yourself kid.
>>674007523
turkey has lots of german tanks. they will win over russia within 1 week max.
>>674025720
its age is irrelevant.
if it was unarmed, thats only because it had already deployed its weaponry on the Syrian rebels on the Turkish border.
it had no business flying over turkish territory.
the russains also wouls have shot down any turkish plane flying over their territory.
your shit makes no fucking sense.
>>674025978
Well, Russia does have a shit ton of artillerie tho
>>674025520
first off you are talking like im the one who replied to you all of those time, im one of like 4 people.
The US is the the richest country in terms of GDP so rich that ever when dividing by states they still can compete on a national level individually. We have the biggest over everything, even the police force of a single city (NYC) measures as one of the biggest armies in the world.
And even though its just a "presence" that's still significantly larger than any other country on earth, we maintain active military bases on all 157 countries across the world and our super carriers are within striking distance of all our enemies
>>674010733
>Being this retarted
Remember it was world war and Germany was getting fucked by every side not only Russia .
Would it have been only Germany with its full potential vs. Russia ,Germany would have wiped out those white niggerapes
>>674025819
yes, its fucked up the reports of erdogan personqlly profitting from isis oil.
that is corruption.
but that doesnt explain russia bombing specifically syrian rebels. nor expecting not to be shot down when flying without permission from an antagonistic states airspace.
>>674025621
Yep but the "problem" is that we are getting refugees in our country's that are really expensive. Discuss because turkey was screwing us over by letting them all go for Greece hahhahah. But npnp now we got the extra man power. I mean Europa dienst have fancy great number but the soldier are trained professionals. We train hard really hard and learn from the mistakes that where made not only by our self but by everybody. And still turkey can't defend there own country because needed our anti air defending systems hahahahha
>>674025915
you can look up the facts yourself.
investigate what china is doing in the east of russia for yourself.
your only point was insults. weak and innefectual.
>>674025858
A lot of things are not that influenced by the US.
Like russia or china.
Also i don't get why retards like you somehow draw their selfworth from their homecountries military strength.
Newsflash, if china spend a proportionate amount of their budget on their military they would dwarf your useless military
>>674026002
ooooh, lok at the military genious that has all the inside infformation what happened and knows when they dropped the bombs and where, topkek. and no, they're not as dumb to risk a fucking war. but i get it, they destroyed turkeys oil suppy column of trucks coming from ISIS, turks had to do something to avenge their terrorist friends.
>>674026135
holy fucking shit are you people literally retarded? I never said anything about the fucking US. I said russia had a bigger GDP than 190 countries, somebody said that was anecdotal evidence and now youre going on about US influence around the world
go to bed jesus christ
>>674026236
i still didnt see a single piece of evidence, thus, you're full of bullshit untill you can actualy back ANYTHING you wrote
>>674026244
Uhhh you bet your ass that China is influenced by the US, they literally are the backbone of their economy. Without US consumerism Chain would be lost
>>674024685
Except it was proven that turkey does the same fucking thing with their jets flying over russian territory while russia never even said a thing. Every fucking country does this it's no reason to shoot down a plane.
>>674026332
Its only 3:30 i don't wanna
>>674015077
Samefagging hard
>>674026482
dont aruge with the delusional turks, they argue about fals propaganda, yet onje of their biggest newspeppers gets shut down because their terrorist supporting president doesnt like the truth to be said....tells you alot about turks, does it?
>>674026200
Turkey can handle the refugees with less cost, because honestly the EU and nobody gives a shit how badly the Turkish treat them.
We just want the flood to stop.
We also already have a xonflict with Russia, so if Turkey shits on Russian interests for us, especially under Nato,mwell, thats only good for us too.
Tuekrkey is in a keynposition.
>>674026244
Everything and everyone is influenced by the US.
Dont kid yourself about that.
Underestimating your adversaries is a mistake.
>>674026783
the US is in such a debt they dont even know it, while china owns 60% of US economy, you guys are getting analy fucked without lube very soon.
>>674022484
Kek
>>674026297
this incident was separate from the oil convoy destruction incident.
I applaud russias remarkable, efficient, swift and comperehensive identification and crippling, as well as exposing, of these oil tanker convoys.
but the plane shot down is not directly related.
that one was attacking syrian rebels on the turkish border, which are turkish allies, and then it flew into Turkish airspace.
>>674007523
>>674008888
>>674008532
>>674022420
> People are actually using Global firepower as a reliable source.
A couple years ago Syria was ranked 17th on that website
Even if you think they are reliable, Russia is still 2nd and T*rks are 10th.
Russia has nukes, Russia has experience. T*rkey cannot even contain a minor Kurdish insurgency.
Russians are prepared for a confrontation and NATO will not assist T*rks if the begin the conflict. Heck, no one in NATO or the EU even likes T*rks. The only thing T*rks can do is use their ISIS proxies to attack Russia, but Russia can unleash the Chechens and they alone will rape T*rkey to a standstill.
Pic Related, its from the site in T*rkey (capitol city kek) where 2 bombs went off and the T*rks had no idea how to prevent it. Cannot wait to see how they will prevent a behemoth such as Russia.
One more thing, Russians are savages, they will not abide to the rules of engagement, they will happily rape T*rks just like they did in Berlin.
>>674026355
look it up and inform yourself.
i have no responsibility to educate you.
>>674026482
When and where has Turkey flown over Russian territorial airspace?
>>674026705
Not really because if you want to go to war you need the people to support it. But because it's the turks and the Russians we don't really want to help. But you know there are a lot of Turkish families living in Europa soo we need to help Russia and because we hate the Russians more then you turks helping isis and bombing kurds
>>674026950
where do you get this information, why would it be more accurate then mine? we can do this all day buddy, sources i read tell me it was on a routine check up flight, and im sorry if i rather believe russians than warmongering turkish terrorist
>>674027017
exactly, empty claims, i did my research and can call out your bullshit, thx
>>674026925
the US has managed to reduce its foreign debt already in the clinton era.
its not realoy a thing, for two reasons:
-the us can match its foreign debt in the period of even one administration, if it chooses to do so
-nobody is going to force the US to pay ts debts immediately, because it would result in devaluing of their own investments and quite possibly collapse of the global economy.
it just isnt going to hqppen.
not even from the state based chinese banking system. its financial suicide, for no real benefit.
>>674015260
Remember vietnam? USA got fucked by the number 21
>>674027083
look it up, turks did it numerous times (flying in syrian terrotory) when the only ones that had permission to do that were russians and syrians....yet they didnt instantly try to start a fucking world world unlinke retarded kebabs over the border
>>674027190
you should instead ask yourself where you got your information.
from RT?
>>674027312
your debt is rising by every hour, you can keep telling yourself you can repay it, but the truth is, you cant and you never will, thats why US is making all these wars, its the only way to make money they so desperately need
>>674027439
where did yours come from? are you a pilot maybe or a millitary personel?
>>674027439
lemme guess, you watched CNN? topkek
>>674026967>>674026967
Top kek. Nobody likes Russia it's only because of nato we had a excuse to not start shot because Russia didn't want to like in Syria a couple of years back. And who is going to help Russia. Puttin is still a murder and we didn't forget the commercial airplane the Russians shot down with 150 innocent people.
>>674027233
you are being lied to, or are confusing separate incidents.
do you even know the geopgraphy of the place the plane was shot down looks like?
the plane was spotted attacking syrian rebels, that had been pushed to the turkish border by bashar loyalists.
it then tried to fly through a piece of turkish territorial airspace without permission.
if a turkish plane tried to fly into russian territoria airspace, it would be shut down immediately.
>>674027355
that is not russian territory.
the difference here is that the russian plane flew through turkish territorial airspace.
do you understand the difference?
you fucking russians, man.
>>674027658
oh so is that what your false turk propaganda feeds you? i guess thats the way in a country where only terrorist supporting medias are allowed to report
>>674026468
well that's how the world works you retarded fatass.
The US economy is equally dependent on chinese consumption and that of everyone else.
Seriously how can you not see your own stupidity. You say everyone is influenced by the US because you buy our shit? Well everybody else buys YOUR shit as well. I honestly can't wrap my mind around how retarded the average american is.
It's like when you are living in the dessert and dying of thirst, then it suddenly starts raining and you try to tell the guy next to you how good you have it because it rains where you are standing. That's about the level of mental abilities you display here
>>674027190
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHHHAHAHAJAJJA YOU FUCKING MASSIVE FAGGOT
Russian media is so Fucking full of shit and propaganda ,they actually believe their economy is well and rising and that everybody loves them
Russian media is actually worse than cnn,Fox or bbc
>>674027510
ive watched both RT and western news sources.
ive also watched the presentations given by both Russian and Turkish military on the two SEPARATE incidents.
You are either confusing the two incidents together, or unaware of the actual facts of each.
>>674027777
so you basicaly shoot down a plane that flys over your territory for a minute? even tho its supposed to be an ally and you're figting for the same cause? just shows what a bunch of degenerates turks and americans are
>>674027832
>HAHAHAH
are we on facebook? you keep telling that yourself, if false propaganda lets you sleep at night then so be it, i fully accept there are retards like your wasting oxygen
>>674027808
1) Do you deny it was flying over turkish airspace?
2) Do you deny that Russia and Turkey are NOT allied, and have no permission to fly over each others sovereign territorial airspaxe?
3) Do you deny the plane was attacking syrian rebels, pushed to the Turkish border, that are turkish allies?
>>674027808
And what are your sources?
Do you think RT is a legitmiate, objective new source?
Yes or no.
>>674027903
Where is it said that they are allies you faggot?
Turks as well Russians are involved in this war because of their own interests they wouldn't give a shit if the otherone was dying
Turks had the right to shoot that jet down because it was in their territory even after warnings
>>674027877
so did i, the picture was quite clear, only ones who defent turkey are warmongering idiots
>>674027903
they are not allies.
it flew over the territory for several minutes and refused to turn around despite communication to do so.
they are not fighting the same causes, the plane was attacking syrian rebels, which are turkish allies, ON THE TURKISH BORDER.
>>674028228
defend turkey for what?
russia is thewarmongering idiot in this scenario.
as if their shit doesnt stink enough in the ukraine already, now they do this?
>>674028048
1) no, but is that enough to shoot an unarmed plane down?
2) they are not allied, yet they're supposed to be fighting for the same cause ( but lets face it, turks are part of terrorist so its understandable why they did it)
3) yes i do, it was on a routine checkup fligh, it was in turkish airspace for maybe a minute
now go jerk off to erdogans picture
>>674028141
no i dont, yet i dont believe everything i see like a moron
>>674028274
hahah if anything, turkey is attacking anything that threatens them or their pals ISIS
>>674014638
Iran and Russia hate IS, Turkey are the IS supporters, get it right
>>674028369
sure, they cleaned syria in 5 months, and did something US couldnt do in two years, but lets call them warmongering
Keep on believing that, Turkroach. Pick a fight with Russia and get your shit pushed. Perhaps Russia will liberate Cyprus and Constantinople since NATO hasn't had the guts to
>>674028397
1) Yes, its enough. Im going to double check and investigate if it was unarmed as you claim, for the benefit of the doubt, but im quite certwin that it was armes, was a combat vessel, and if it didnt have ordinance on board, its because it had already dropped it ontop of thesyrian rebels on the border, whom are turkish allies.
2) Thats bullshit. You cannot infringe in another nations sovereign airspace, armed or not, and refuse orders to turn back. Russia would immediately engage any aircraft that violates its own territorial airspace without hesitsatiin if they refuse to turn around. We both know that.
3) It was not on a "routine" flight. THERE IS NO ROUTINE FLIGHT INTO ANOTHER NATIONS AIRSPACE WITHOUT PERMISSION.
Lol. Nope. Weak muslim bitches.
>>674028443
good, neither do I.
its quite possiboe we are both being lied to, from all sources.
we have to try and piece the truth together from what they leave out of their reports respectively, and by using our own brain.
>>674028510
i think that can be said of everyone involved in the conflict.
>>674027618
>Russia shot down plane
kek
>>674027618
> And who is going to help Russia
possibly china. so there is that too.
>>674028565
yes, the same still applies.
the US could have elminated Bashar already at the start, but where unable to pass the resolution required in the UN.
theynonly barely managed to intervene in Libya for the same reasons, where Russia abstained on the resolution.
Instead the syrian rebels where left to die against bashar, and now isis has managed to fill the gap and further destabilise the region.
>>674028048
please. turkey invades Greek airspace all the fucking time. you cant pull that card.
>>674027618
>implying turkey can do anything but send their armchair regiment to taunt russians online but instead they just fuck up their whole image.
Implying T*rks can do anything against Russia when T*rks cannot even handle shitty unarmed kurds.
Pic related, the average T*ruk
>>674029369
>possibly china
Doubt. China wouldn't want to mess with its customers who are mostly the western countries
