Give me one legit non-racist reason why we shouldn't accept refugees who are just running away with their families from ISIS.
>>673750947
Because it's unconstitutional
>>673750947
[claps]
>>673750947
Do you have to cross 1 sea and 7 countries, complain about not getting into the UK and still be called a "refugee"?
>>673751482
And where exactly in the constitution does it say that we shouldn't accept refugees?
>>673750947
Because they won't leave after the conflict is done, and, The goverments need to use the money to resolve the conflict, not for the refugees.
>>673750947
They already are in safe countries.
Fuckers are freeloading parasites looking for the best welfare deals and easiest White pussy to fuck.
>shoot every last one
-rape
-high chance of a refugee being a member of isis
-people who dont have a passport or something else (to prove that they are from syria) shouldnt be taken anyways.
-Refugees annoy and hijack /disrupt truck drivers at highways
>>673751788
Where does it say we should?
>>673751860
wow you sound really really insecure
Because it's not any one's problem, but their own.
>>673751822
Actually most of them when asked say they want to go to their country but they can't because of war and terrorism.
>>673751871
>high chance of refugee being a member of isis
This is a typical bigot talking point and it has never been proven to be true. They are running from ISIS, that's the whole point.
>>673752027
You can't refute my points then?
thanks for the confirmation faggot
Because $$$$$$ and ££££££
>>673751983
It doesn't. The constitution also doesn't say that you should eat food but you do, don't you? Use logic, faggot
>>673750947
They have nothing to contribute. Besides their misogynistic backwards ass stone age religion.
>>673752152
terrorist from paris were refugees
>>673750947
No one says we shouldn't accept them. They are saying that extra security should be put in place because ISIS and other undesirable elements WILL try to infiltrate the immigrant flood. It's only common sense.
>>673750947
>>673752238
Eating and helping people are different faggot, nice shitty comparison.
>>673750947
"We" are Europe. Not a muslim land. We are in war against muslims, and taking them in our country will make more Bataclan happens. It's bad for our people, and the syrians should go to some muslim country. We don't want them. And they make too many troubles here.
>>673750947
because there is plenty of room for Syrian refugees in Saudi Arabia, Omen, Yemen and the UAE.
>>673750947
Too much of a risk bringing in people from an area of the world that has the largest amount of anti western people
>>673752308
terrorist from USA was american white guy
>your logic
>>673752152
>They are running from ISIS, that's the whole point
top kek muslim bastard
>Ahmad al-Mohammad, from Idlib in Syria, has been named as one of the attackers involved in Friday's terror attacks in Paris.
His was the name on a Syrian passport found with the remains of one of the attackers, though the man's identity has not yet been verified.
It is believed he entered mainland Europe after arriving by boat on the Greek island of Leros, like many refugees fleeing Syria's civil war.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34839187
>>673752120
This
>>673750947
first of all, once they get beyond syria's borders they become economic migrants, not refugees
the reason that any country should be allowed to refuse to accept them is that the turmoil in that part of the world has nothing to do with them
america, and to a lesser extent the UK, are the only countries with any direct responsbility and even they should be allowed, as sovereign nations with borders recosgnised by the UN, tell them to fuck off.
>>673752355
Thats bullshit loads of people are saying we shouldn't accept them (me included). Its not our problem, let the arabs deal with it.
>>673750947
They will never leave and they cannot assimilate.
In 40 years they will outpopulate nations they migrated into and everything will go down.
Multiculturism...
I am not racist, all races are more or less ok.
Mixing them is awful.
>>673751788
'I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that Article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.'"
James Madison
It's unconstitutional to use public money for charity.
>>673750947
NYE.
>>673752522
Comparing Europe and America is not a legit
>>673752120
This
>>673752750
checkmate atheists
>>673752215
>safe countries
>implying lebanon, turkey etc. have the capacity to take in any more refugees
>implying the global community wouldn't take in american refugees if it was necessary
>implying you're not just a pathetic xenophobic piece of shit
>>673752355
Assuming you're an Amerifag, do you not know that the application for a refugee visa takes almost 2 years and vetting by multiple agencies including the CIA, DHS, and FBI? This "we don't have a tough enough screening process" is pure bullshit.
>>673750947
To be honest here its not the true refugees we have a problem with. Its the agents that are mixed in. They are being "refuged" just to hide in the ranks till they get here.
Then when they get here they disappear.
And even if you refuse to believe it, its happening. Strong, of age, males are not refugees...their cowards who wont fight to change their country. They wont stand up to their oppression. So what they do is change their beliefs slightly and start "over" here. And complain when we dont bend over backwards.
I feel like they should be welcomed here. Without their sheets. Without their laws. Without their oppresive culture.
They should learn english and abide by state laws. Not whine bitch and moan because we wont...allow them to force their stuff on us.
>>673752881
>implying you are not an evil anti White nigger
>>673750947
You're right. We should accept refugees who are just running away with their families from ISIS. In accordance to UN policy they should be settled in the nearest country which is not at war, which is in this case Greece or Saudi Arabia.
They ruin everything.
The do not enrich culture. Whatever they bring with them is always for the worse.
They demand that our lands change to suit their needs.
They demand their laws in our territory, despite the fact that their laws and beliefs are what made their homelands shitholes to begin with.
No one is under any obligation to "help" anyone else.
Oh, and they're not all innocent.
Where are the women? where are the children?
Left behind in a "war zone" while fit, fighting-ready men flock to Europe and the USA.
They've already been raping and harassing women and children.
If you need more evidence then you're clearly a left wing "love everybody" pussy with no idea what the real world is actually like.
>>673752441
in reality there is no law about your daily intake of protein but there are human rights that regulate the acceptance of refugees
>>673750947
Because we have enough fucking problems without taking in a bunch more different-culture, likely fucked in the head, un civilized sand niggers, some of whom are guaranteed to be extremists or become extremists and give them all the help they ask for while simultaneously being unable to support our own people who were born here there for have the RIGHT to be here. Becoming a citizen of a country other than that of ones birth is a privilege, not a right, and a privilege that should be granted on a very small scale basis, not to every goddamn one who wants it.
Tl;dr we have enough problems already, deal with those first.
>>673753004
/thread
>>673750947
because we like our women unraped thanks
>>673750947
a refugee is a person who is in need of help and who accepts everything that they can they dont care if they dont have internet and they are fine with the clothes what they have they dont need to beg for more stuff they respect other countries culture and come here to work like everyone ells and start living they life. not come here to rape and bring in their culture and sit off welfare.. mainstream media doesn't post anything about whats happening in europe. its pretty fucked. Sweden seems already fucked. not to mention they lie their age when clearly they look older but goverment still belives. nobody knows even their fucking background
>>673750947
Because ISIS has started using women as suicide bombers and it won't belong before they use children too.
>>673753004
Yea, what he said
>>673753021
Human rights=/=Laws
>>673752887
so what do you want, less time for the screening process, or are you just arguing because it's an election cycle and you need something to argue about?>
>>673752622
in sweden sex without a condom is rape
you could also take the chart as a show of how advanced womans rights are in these countrys
>>673750947
Because they contribute nothing of value and are a security risk. Their families should be accepted and protected. The men armed and trained to fight ISIS to take back their country. The women, if they have no family duties, should also be made to help, either in production or combat. Families that do very well may be offered citizenship, the rest stay a maximum of 15 years. That way everyone but ISIS wins.
>>673753168
don't forget to vote or Trump, bigot
>>673753004
This right here is the fucking truth.
>>673752590
>loads of people are saying we shouldn't accept them (me included)
No one cares what a few peasants think. When I say "no one says we shouldn't accept them", I'm referring to people in charge.
>>673750947
>Give me one legit non-racist reason why we shouldn't accept refugees who are just running away with their families from ISIS.
Absolutely none.
Problem is : the majority of refugees are NOT running away from ISIS to save their lives.
>>673750947
Because they take all the rape victims away from niggers.
>>673753362
exactly who I'm voting for faggot.
>>673750947
because you assume they're running away from a small militia and not just looking for a free ride. if they really wanted to escape they only had to go a few hundred miles, but its the land of streets paved with gold here.
>>673750947
define 'refugees' first
>>673753183
in relation to your pic http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/europes-border-crisis/refugee-crisis-more-women-children-move-men-unicef-n510291
>>673753362
hurr durr my liberal media overlords told me to think that trump is a racist so that means trump is a racist drrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>>673750947
>>673750947
>reason why we shouldn't accept refugees who are just running away with their families from ISIS.
This
>>673753336
>citation needed
>>673753392
So what your saying is that the president of hungary is not in charge?
One reason would be the cultural clashes. Integration will be a problem due to this large scale migration. Other than that they're all assets. We're all assets.
Economic-wize, the fatcats want this. Unless every Mr Mojibbamed from Shitfuckistan decides "working be rasist" and all they do here is take up space then we'll see true exilation by the masses. But for now another mouth looking to be fed is another cheap worker.
By the way I want to skin a rodent, blend the hide and mix this slush into someone's spaghetti bolognese sauce one day. And I think I will.
>>673750947
because it's a good idea in the short term, but in the long run the problems will outweigh the benefits.
I was very liberal and open to other people/cultures, but once you work in a field with lots of those people you begin to hate them more and more. Every country has human uneducated trash, with this influx you're letting in masses of human trash in.
Now picture this, war breaks out in europe. Do you think those people will be as accepting of us as we of them?
>>673750947
There's a difference between Syrian and Iraqi refugees and the random economical refugees flooding everywhere. Some have a legit reason to be a refugee, others are just taking advantage of the situation.
>>673753252
you merican? there are "Customary international laws" that might sound strange to you but international politics are build on it
They are muslim? That's a good reason
>>673752223
and let's not forget €€€€€€
>>673753763
>So what your saying is that the president of hungary is not in charge?
Oh are we talking about 3rd world shit country immigration? Who cares. You guys can sort it out I'm sure.
>>673752622
Sweden doesn't count, everything is rape there.
>>673750947
Protection of our economical system and cultural values and privileges.
Non racist and honest.
>>673750947
We don't like crimes like rape and murder.
>>673750947
Refugee camps inside American boarders are really bad optics. They are forced to stay inside the boarders of the camp and are basically just giant airplane hangers full of cots.
That's practically giving away a time magazine cover. Next thing you know, the left will now demand more instead of thanking the government for doing what they wanted, unknowing what exactly it was.
So it's really an expanding issue. I'm sure plently of annons have posted about the camps in Germany by now.
>>673753004
And this.
>>673753744
>asking for citation on the internet
the moon orbits your mom
>source : the internet
>>673750947
As long as they pay taxes and are socible I don't have a problem.
It is funny to say nigger, Jew, paki etc though.
>>673750947
No one person has anymore right to be in a country then another person. We are all made out of the dust that formed this planet, just because we were lucky enough to be born in a nicer part of the world, doesn't mean we're any more entitled to a better life then someone unfortunate enough to be born in a war/poverty stricken county.
>Uk fag here.
>let the cunts in. Aslong as I can travel the world freely I really don't give a Fuck.
>>673750947
BURN THEM ALL
>>673753021
No, you couldn't be more wrong in your assumptions. You see, in our constitution we have this thing called the tenth amendment. It (supposedly) prevents the state from assuming powers not granted to it, which would include things like spending tax-payer money or fed-printed money on things like refugees. It does not regulate what ones dietary intake should be. That's the point, it defaults power to the people to prevent a tyrant from rising by playing the bleeding-hearts of fuckers like you.
>>673750947
Because bringing 10-70 thousand un-skilled people into a country like the U.S, the U.K or Germany is idiotic from an economic standpoint.
I've also always wondered about who came up with the idea to pull all those people out from their respective ountries and then reposition them in completly different countries.
It makes much more sense to me to try and make the country they are from a place worth living in. I get that it's economically insane, but so is 10-70 thousand welfare recipients who also happen to rape girls, plant bombs, kidnap and kill children aswell as negatively influencing the local population's culture so that it is as unacceptable to say Merry Christmas as it is to not say Happy Diwali.
>>673753948
In coherent english please?
>>673753963
True dat
>>673752750
This is the most based post I've ever seen. Thanks based anon
>>673753744
what is this a fucking book report? fuck off faggot
>>673751773
This!
When those people arrived in a safe country they were refugees. The moment they tried to leave a safe country willing to accept them they became immigrants, and the uk is under no obligation to accept any of them.
Because the government has an obligation to take care of its own people first. And if the infrastructure needed to support large numbers of incoming individuals, refugees or otherwise, doesn't exist. Then the nation as a whole suffers the consequences.
>>673753785
>Now picture this, war breaks out in europe. Do you think those people will be as accepting of us as we of them
They'll accept the young women and kids.
>>673750947
>>673754241
That was coherent. And capitalize English when you type it you fucking barbarian scum.
>>673754145
But you can't travel to most countries without a visa. Dense fuck
>>673750947
>>673750947
Crime rates/sexual assaults go up in countries that accept them
>who are just running away with their families from ISIS
It's hard for the government to tell the difference between safe and not safe ones considering ISIS have training videos which tell them to blend in and wear crosses to pretend to be good citizens
>>673754145
Cancerous faggot
>>673753392
A nation exists primarily to protect the rights of its own citizens. When people in charge force the acceptance of refugees against the will of the population, they are effectively stealing their own peoples' resources and donating them away.
There can be completely valid reasons for something like this, but by disregarding the opinions of 'peasants,' you're spectacularly demonstrating your failure to comprehend what it means to even be a national leader. You elitist retard.
A Muslim Holocaust is coming. It's clear to see the world won't be able to come up with any better solution than to just genocide Arabs/Islamized Non-Arabs. It will be worse than the 6 million myth, but this one will be real. I'm not advocating for it, just telling what I see coming. Mark my words. Screencap this.
>>673750947
In my opinion, the only real reason that we're not letting them is, is for security. For all we know, 1 out of 10 of these refugees is an extremist. Sure, we let Vietnamese refugees come to the States during the Vietnam war, but the North Vietnamese didn't try to bring the war to our soil, like these guys are trying to do these days.
>>673753336
Sex without a condom is not rape rape there, and the woman's rights argument only accounts for part of that. When compared to countries similar rights but little immigration they still have a much higher rate.
>>673752387
Obviously shooped
>>673754435
I simply refuted your point and then you come at with with some random shit. wat u doin dud?
english
FUCK them, that is why
>>673753004
Remember a news report about groups of middle eastern/refuges/Muslims young adults males going around a Christmas and new years celebrations in Germany raping and mugging women. Over 100 reported cases in one city over a week long period at the time, then nothing reported in the news since about it, just "More People fleeing war!" and "ISIS is killing people"
It's funny how the people who call refugees inbred rapists and terrorist are most likely to rape their sister or bomb an abortion clinic
>>673754145
>>673750947
Cultural stressors.
The culture these refugees come from has differing values and modes of communication from ours - this does not make them less human, not at all. But it does make them less compatible with us.
Communication and understanding drive society, so unless you plan on drip-feeding these refugees in over a period of 40 years at a rate of a few hundred per year, while giving them all a cultural assimilation handler who can veto them at any time for not assimilating properly, you risk fracturing an already unstable republic.
>>673753604
>Hurrr durrr I'm retarded and inbred so I need a candidate who will spout off simple phrases that go along with my xenophobic beliefs hurr durr BUILD WALL hurt durr MEXICO PAY hurr durr
DAILY REMINDER THAT 9/11 HAPPEND BECAUSE AMERIFATS LET IN ALL THE SANDNIGGERS,AND SAME GOES TO 13/11
use this hashtag to spread awarness:
#TRUMPAGAINSTSANDNIGGERS
>>673754529
>A nation exists primarily to protect the rights of its own citizens.
If only more people knew that.
>>673752027
Just to inform you: there's a thing in international law called "right of asylum".
And it will save your ass one day or your son's, nephew's or whatever's ass, don't joke too much about serious issues. You are mostly young privileged-lucky boys that don't remotely bother about being documented on what you talk about. Basically ignorant. Just stfu and go back to your playstation.
in Sweden 1/4 immigrants has a job after 8 years
>>673750947
The picture says it all..............
>>673754529
>A nation exists primarily to protect the rights of its own citizens
There is no clear consensus on the role of government in a society. It's nice of you to provide your perspective, but there are plenty of others.
>>673750947
I would like to imagin that most people are or can be sympathetic to the suffering of others, those who refuse to care or only wish to cause more harm have no consept of what it is to struggle
>>673752215
I missed the part where you made points
>>673755098
fake. that's totally not what happened on 13/11 asshole
>>673755364
probably made by that racist and bigot Ben Garrison
>>673750947
Because a significant percentage of the refugees are either ISIS sleeper agents or young males who want lots of white women to rape and free money instead of actually having to work for a living.
>>673750947
Refugees arent the problem
the economic migrants (hence the name of th "Migrant Crisis") are.
The migrants arent fleeing war, they're fleeing poverty, Illegally.
If 1/5 Americans just decided to move north/south because of unemployment, there'd be a crisis too, and we'd get sent home too.
The UN established rules for how REFUGEES are handled, they're to be housed on the international dime, in closest peaceful territory outside their own country, and if the conflict is protracted, then resettled as the host countries can afford to take them in.
MIGRANTS (people emmigrating because their economy sucks and there arent any jobs or shit jobs what have you) have no rights, under international law. Period. They're expected (Rightly so) to fix their own damn country.
But no, because its brown people they magically deserve special treatment.
>>673755364
why would the put a label in the back saying isis? it ruins the whole idea of this retarded picture
>>673752887
Quick question, where are these applicants located physically while the application is being processed?
I dont believe they're in the country they are fleeing, nor are they in an internment camp..
If you wanna go out of your way to spend money on bringing them here and housing them here, it should be on YOUR dollar.
>>673755333
>immigrants
>refugees
Pick one.
>>673755604
'citation needed'
>>673754670
Don't ever fucking reply to me again.
>>673754943
Any sources to back that up?
>>673755877
>reply
kek
>>673755023
Niggerlover
>>673750947
because the unruly and most destructive ones travel with the refugees, hiding in plain sight and using PC statements to sneak in.
>>673753004
yup
>>673755877
Easy dere bud dont /b/ mad
>>673752522
And He didn't go to Europe to terrorize he stayed here. He should have applied for refugee status in Syria and shot ISIS church up, but I'm sure they wouldn't have granted a Christian asylum
>>673755778
Brilliant I'm going to use this argument.
>>673755666
Are the two really separate in this case? The economic problems in the middle east are arguably the result of the war.
>>673750947
Because the middles east is fucked because of the usa. Maybe to help clean up the mess u made?
>>673750947
not racism, i just dont like how those people down there get brainwashed, and then come up here and do fucked up shit here.
>>673755815
>http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Screen-Shot-2015-09-08-at-9.59.12-PM.jpg
72% males
>http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/19/europe/germany-cologne-attacks/
Refugees molesting women
And when the sleeper agents activate you'll have many more citations.
>>673756227
;) ;) good one eh? now you are UNSTOPPABLE
>>673751822
Thats like throwing ur shit in someones face, then take the last napkin and say "i need it for my hands"
>>673752120
Amfags started theire problems...
>>673756234
This is not arguable at all. The middle east has always sucked, and had wars. The Muslims will not be happy until the world is muslim. These refugees are a Trojan horse. There have been tons of wars in the Middle East, and this is the first time that so many have decided that the only safe place to be away from other muslims is Europe. For a while...until Europe is entirely muslim...and the descendants of the refugees are numerous enough to begin exterminating the white population, and then start fighting among themselves. These people have always been this way.
>>673755778
Stupid argument if taken literally. The wealth and power of the system easily outweighs what any single persons can do. This is typical right wing bullshit, diverting responsibility away from the system and onto ordinary people.
>>673750947
Existing cultural tension that will cause right wing to gain traction in the next elections. Also, because "hosting them" doesn't solve the root cause. Already existing deficiet and absense of economic growth in Europe.
It's also not racism: Europeans having hosted Muslims and people from the middle east have been confronted with criminality from those groups in the last 20 years. And fear more of that.
>>673750947
These are military aged men who were too cowardly to fight for their own country. give me one good, non liberal feel good reason why we would actually want them here.
>>673750947
Its illegal to enter the United states without permission. Dumb fuck
>>673754545
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/04/surrender-genocide-or-what.html
>>673752279
Islam and christianety is based on the same crap, behead all christians and muslims, jews too
>>673757068
This. Mexico is nothing but cartels. If they can't learn to stand up in their own country why should we let them come here
>>673757149
That's exactly why we should give them permission and accept them you fucking illiterate cracker
>>673750947
Because they are ISIS.
>>673750947
cause this, you moron
>>673750947
Also the idea of pumping birthrates with immigrants is retarded. All it needs is more satisfying policies to create families and marriages + a change of the media mindset, within 1 generation you will see the changes.
>>673752469
This but you'll never hear a liberal point this out. Those countries are closer, speak the same language, and have the same religion. Let the sandniggers take care of their own kind.
>>673757667
and this
>>673755402
Philosophically, you have a point.
However, most of American/European governments at the heart of this issue are bound by democratic contracts that explicitly state the protection of citizens' rights as priority one.
I'm not just providing one of several equally valid perspectives, I'm citing the clear consensus on the role of governments in these societies, as written in their own constitutions.
>>673757427
This
History loves to repeat itself
shitskins
shitty culture
shitty religion
welfare leeches
>>673756629
72% males yes. But your claim that they 'want lots of white women to rape and free money instead of actually having to work for a living' is completely unfounded.
>refugees molesting women
Eight men. Out of how many refugees? And how many women do you think are molested by native citizens of Germany ?
>>673757020
>The middle east has always sucked, and had wars.
Eh, yes and no. Syria and Iraq before the recent US actions in the middle east were certainly much better off economically than they are now. They may have had more brutal governments that don't respect rights, but war always brings poverty in its wake because it's destructive by nature.
> The Muslims will not be happy until the world is muslim
Only the hardcore ones. I understand and will concede that islamic doctrine is very much one of conquest, but much like modern Christians, many Muslims would only consider it a neat bonus if the entire world was Islamic.
> These refugees are a Trojan horse.
Many of them are, sure. And it's shameful that the militants are doing that.
> There have been tons of wars in the Middle East, and this is the first time that so many have decided that the only safe place to be away from other muslims is Europe
I would posit that this is because it's true - ever since the western intervention, the wars have gone from intermittent to systemic. What the middle east is experiencing can be described as nothing less than a cascade failure.
> For a while...until Europe is entirely muslim...and the descendants of the refugees are numerous enough to begin exterminating the white population, and then start fighting among themselves
This is a legitimate concern and I'm not sure how to handle it but I also don't think it will necessarily need to be solved violently.
> These people have always been this way.
Cultures are never that static. The middle east was once a beacon of scientific enlightenment. But this is not the default (or even equilibrious) state of a society.
Please remember that I'm only questioning here whether or not the economic crisis and the war are linked.
>>673750947
too many Muslims here already, we don't need more of them
>>673750947
you have predetermined everyone who does not agree with you to be a racist. so what was your point in making this thread? is it because you just want to call others racist while feeling morally superior to them? are you that shallow?
I fucking hate Indian refugees, cunts have no respect
because saudi arabia and the UAE dont want them because syrians are the most radical of the groups. its a few hours drive to SA and UAE and those countries are the richest in the world yet they want nothing to do with their muslim brothers......wonder why????
>>673758082
nobody asked what you need faggot
>>673752152
>being this delusional
more than half of them want shria law to take over and are for killing rape victims
>>673758354
t. muhammad al-binbarbaque
>>673758326
Indians are still better than muslims. Indians are pretty smart at least where I live
>>673758587
>>673751773
And i dont get why a man aged between 18 and 45 dont fight for his fucking country. Womens, kids and old/sick mans are okay, but the rest are just cowards. And dont forget that a shitload of them come from safe countrys like Algeria.
>70% of them are here for the free money. If you think differently, go fuck yourself.
>take a look here: http://imgur.com/account/favorites/YMUaI9i
>>673758547
>more than half of them
you just made up a number because you're a xenophobe and that's all you know
>>673758641
Doesn't matter how smart they are, they have no respect for other people.
Just yesterday i saw two of them sitting in a waiting room playing their grubby music and talking over their music.
>>673758082
far too many of the cunts in the UK
>>673751822
This. And I'm convinced it's all part of the Islamization of Western society. How bout we take in their women and children, men stay back and fight till it's over? Aka all dead?
>>673758996
Wow, two single men listening to music and beeing loud... where in the world could such a thing occure?
>>673750947
crime
>>673750947
Best reason is culture protection.
>>673757994
you forgot
rapists
child molesters
>>673759235
In a waiting room, a WAITING ROOM.
What, lmao they come all the war over when plenty of other countries are available, fuck off to Saudi Arabia or Dubai or something. They're rich as fuck countries
>>673757934
> However, most of American/European governments at the heart of this issue are bound by democratic contracts that explicitly state the protection of citizens' rights as priority one.
This is true, and forgive me if you've heard this argument before but the thing about governments is that people generate the governing body that they need dynamically. Constitutions are (mostly) static, but societies are dynamic. One of the fundamental failings of these kinds of democratic republics is that they are not agile enough and do not have enough insight into their populations to keep their constitutional parameters aligned to the populaces' needs.
As a result, many of the citizens could have the understanding and demand of a government that it's role could be different: Perhaps the citizens believe a government should be first and foremost to prevent catastrophic social failure states. Perhaps the citizens believe that a government should first and foremost be about facilitating an individual's personal and professional growth. Perhaps the citizens believe that the government's role is to keep the economy alive at all costs.
You seem to have a deep understanding of the philosophies behind western governments so I'm going to assume you accept the following to be true (but please correct me if I'm wrong): The government operates primarily on public trust and obedience, so if the government's behavior does not align with the population's expectations, it will damage itself.
In this sense, I ask you to re-evaluate if "the other perspectives are not valid" (not necessarily equally so).
>>673750947
Most are males aged 20-30, very few of the refugees refuge as families.
>>673759235
This better be a troll, nice trolling
>>673750947
Because if we make running from your problems a valid solution, eventually ISIS will own the entire world and everyone else will be crammed into a boat looking for a place to land.
Solution: Draft all migrants into the military. Send them to fight ISIS.
>>673759477
Maybe they dont have appartments...
>>673759460
dont forget: they cost us a shitload of money, abusing our welfare system.
>>673759919
Im not feeding you anymore faggot
>>673750947
>Give me one legit non-racist reason why we shouldn't accept refugees who are just running away with their families from ISIS.
Because they are safe when in surrounding countries like Turkey, Jordan and even Iraq.
Once they are leaving these areas, they are not fleeing ISIS, but rather poverty.
>>673758996
those bastards. let's label 12 000 000 000 indians disrespectful then.
>>673750947
Because they're sand-niggers whose kids will grow up to be terrorists, just like in the UK.
>>673759317
Being this provocative
>>673750947
because they hate western culture and will just want to do the same shit over here.
they are animals who dont know how to operate in a civil society
have you seen the rape numbers since they started getting imported by the thousands???? are you even reading the news??
>>673752027
Suicide seems to be your only option
>>673760025
Raceism and rightwing politics are linked to low iqs. Iluminate ur selves and u might get a more complete wiew of it..
i don't want to be like the united caliphate of europe
>>673752750
there you go bleeding heart faggot. if you want to cuck out your family's safety that's fine, move them over there to that shithole. keep the animals out of my town
>>673751788
>>673751788
>>673759612
How about that a man between 18-45 should fight for his country? But nope, better be a coward and get shit for free.
>mooslim is not safe, need to cross at least 3 countrys until he land into a rich one to harvest from our system
>ftw not even saudi arabia want them, because of this reason.
>>673760334
Stop fucking replying to me holy fuck fuck off fucking illiterate faggot
>>673760234
that's because #noballsitaly doesn't give a shit
>>673755449
I kekd.
These are the states sending troops who bomb the houses of the people who become refugees.
>>673760337
what the actual fuck is this?
What's it from?
>>673760644
And these are the states accepting refugees. See the pattern?
>>673760644
False, North sends more than South
>>673760592
I thought they had stone cold mafia killers everywhere or have they turned fag too?
>>673760644
what are these?
bombs for ants?
>>673760334
>Raceism...
>ur selves...
>u...
>low iqs
>>673760547
I bet ur gonna vote for this idiot.
Hes a sign that usa hase hade the throne for to long, chinas turn now...
>>673750947
Because the two cultures are incompatible.
>>673750947
Because they should stay in their country to fix their problems. You don't fix problems by running away.
If that means they take up arms then thats what they have to fucking do.
Also, I dont want any of their trash culture spreading outside of the designated bombing zone.
>>673760644
And ISIS and the "refugees" are the states deciding where and if the bombs fall.
When you fire rockets out of your children's playground while your children dance around the rocket launcher and praise Allah for killing the infidel, you don't get to then bitch that the playground got blown up along with your kids to stop you from firing rockets and killing the infidel.
>>673760766
I bet it's bullshit. It doesn't even make sense to have a husband and be a single mother at the same time
>>673753004
Thanks for reminding me how stupid people are
>>673761128
Nah you're still in the circlejerk, have fun in that hivemind of yours
>>673760337
dafuq is wrong with her?
>>673761013
Hahahahaha you took the b8 faggott
>>673760458
Why did you quote my James Madison post? James Madison said that in response to the French refugees. His point was it's unconstitutional for the federal government to use tax money for charity.
>>673761016
Fuck off i may be a trump supportor but at least im not an illiterate faggot who spams 4chan
>>673761013
My iq is 127, i speak 4 languages, english whas the third i learnd. Noob
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-military-is-not-representative-of-country-2014-7
This is exactly my point. The people sending troops are in denial of reality. They fail to see that they are the very cause of the refugees who they won't accept either. They're just shooting at the world, and shouting "NO!" at whatever comes back at them.
>>673758047
>>refugees molesting women
>Eight men. Out of how many refugees? And how many women do you think are molested by native citizens of Germany ?
Every felony done by a economic migrant is one too much.
>>673761405
James Madison. Founding father of the EU.
How do we know that they are human beings. Has anyone done any DNA testing or are we just making leftist assumptions here?
>>673761480
>third i learnd
Back to school kek
>>673761473
Take an iq test. I promise u ur under 100!
>>673760644
seems legit
>>673750947
Because 87% of the refugees who went to Germany were unaccompanied men, men who fucked over there family and left them for a new life to start raping people in Germany.
>>673761480
kek
You need to learn the White mans language to earn enough to eat something other than camel shit every day.
>>673761473
>trump supporter
>not illegitimate faggot
You can only pick one.
>>673761600
Ok? How good is ur spelling in Norwegian, German or Dutch?
>>673754210
10th amendment = the right to be a cunt?
>>673761945
I earn around 35.000 nok, just about 3000 dollars a month
>>673753004
Based anon.
>>673762000
>>673761546
>no matter how small the percentage of criminals, the fact that there is even one means that we should not allow any of them in
Do you actually believe this?
Are you also implying that most refugees are economic migrants? Do you have a source for this or is that just your baseless opinion?
>>673760337
The grass is always greener on the other side.
>>673761546
Well then why is the U.S. creating refugees by perpetually sending troops overseas?
Don't you understand? Troops CAUSE refugees in the same way that eating food causes you to poop. You don't get to have one without the other, because the definition of a troop is somebody who goes over to destroy somebody else's livelihood. Professionals call war "economic redistribution."
This what war looks like. It's not all bombs and excitement, and cool airplane maneuvers. In reality, war is dirty refugees showing up at your door, pissing in your lawn and digging food out of the garbage. When are Americans going to get their heads out of their movies and wake up to the world they're creating?
>>673762091
Not quite. The 10th amendment is a cultural unification mechanism. Here's a good hypothetical example:
Let's say that in Massachusetts, putting tomatoes in clam chowder just rubs everyone the wrong way. It offends the sensibilities of everyone. But in Manhattan, it's the opposite.
As such, massachusetts and new york both enact laws enforcing that their favorite kind of clam chowder is the only kind there.
No problem. Until the feds get involved and require that everyone eat this new kind of clam chowder that is completely synthetic. Or worse, the feds side with New York and make a law that says all clam chowder must be disgusting tomato-based manhattan clam chowder. Anyone who has the good kind will go to prison.
See the problem?
ALLAH AKBAR
>>673762201
>boasting about government funded job
>is a filthy immigrant
pick two
>>673762201
4120 to be accurate
>>673761993
That makes no sense
>>673762000
Fukin saged
>>673750947
1. because other countries in the Middle East aren't
2. because Israel isn't
3. because we don't have $$$ for our own citizens / social programs. Really don't need more free loaders. And don't give me that bullshit "they are looking for work" argument. At best they'll contribute far less than they bleed off the taxpayers.
>>673752522
Do you even know the definition of terrorism?
That kid wasn't a terrorist.
>>673753004
Literally every single point on this list is just your opinion. This isn't evidence at all. Totally unfounded claims.
>>673752887
Well here's how it goes we realized federal background check don't work for guns why would it work for some walking time bombs
>>673762773
Of course it does. Fucking faggot trump.
>>673762898
you're doing exactly what niggers do when crying about "police brutality"
>he was a good boy he dindu nuffin
>>673763086
you gotta go back, paco
>>673762631
Im quite white and norwegian. I work in the oil industry, nothing gouverment funded about that...
>>673763086
>fucking faggot trump
Did your aspergers strike again? Or did mummy leave the room?
>>673750947
>non-racist
>b/
>>673762888
How do we have money to send the troops who bomb the houses of the people who become refugees, but not money to build the houses for the refugees whose houses we sent the troops to bomb?
Could it be that it's more expensive to BUILD than to DESTROY? Is that why?
The amount of violent and sexual assaults they commit seem to indicate they aren't refugees and have no will to integrate.
This year 3 people have died at asylum homes here in Sweden. More than 12 assaults on women in a small town since the 20th February. Yesterday a 19 year-old 'refugee' raped a 6 year-old.
We can take in 20k toddlers and women - the men can fuck off.
>>673758061
Only the hardcore muslims?
A huge number of muslims want sharia law. I don't fucking care about islamic people because millions of them want to destroy free speech.
>>673762923>>673763029
Anybody got a spare redpill by any chance? We got an emergency over here.
>>673763177
>Im quite white and norwegian
>quite white
>white
lol sandnigger detected
>>673762496
> Well then why is the U.S. creating refugees by perpetually sending troops overseas?
Because clearly, ISIS dindu nuffin. I love your victim projection. Terrorists choose to make war from civilian locations, terrorists choose to make those people into refugees when the fighting starts, and then just like a nigger who pulls a gun on a cop, it's the cop's fault when the nigger's put down. Next you're gonna ask why women are creating migrant rape epidemics by bathing regularly enough to be more sexually appealing than an ungulate.
>>673762888
People who aren't part of your shit so-called social programs usually take nothing out of you since they do not quañify for them.
Blame rednecks and nigger who mostly take benefits out of that.
Also the income from legals is huge. So pretty much the "social programs leeching" and the "is more than racism" arguments are basically invalid.
>>673763306
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
>>673762888
>Usa fucked theire shit up
>now says have no dollars to help
>>673750947
There is no reason to not accept them.
In addition, the refugee haters will in turn become refugees themselves. Instant karma!
>>673762402
>>>673761546 (You)
>>no matter how small the percentage of criminals, the fact that there is even one means that we should not allow any of them in
>Do you actually believe this?
No I am not. I am just pissed.
>Are you also implying that most refugees are economic migrants? Do you have a source for this or is that just your baseless opinion?
Yes I am, I would know if Germany has a border to Syria.
>>673762556
And this has what to do with refugees?
>>673763532
>>673753552
>>673760860
Yes they had. 40 years ago.
>>673763532
Jesus Christ you're a fucking retard
>>673763832
>>673750947
because they should stay and fight ISIS. fucking cowards
>>673763552
You know ISIS got strong because Iraq is a failed state thanks to US war, right?
>>673750947
The ones who make it as far as Germany, France and the UK or even the USA are the ones with enough money to afford the people trafficking to get there. Those are the people who could have stayed and started to rebuild an economy, employ others, be productive. The ones with no money, the ones with no means of escape are the ones who need help but where are they?
They're still there because they have no money and no means of escape. There are whole nations filled with these people, many millions who deserve our "humanitarian support" but the reality is simple: every nation has its own problems, every developed nation has homeless people, sick people and people out of work. All economies are fragile and while you have problems at home how can you expect to fix problems abroad?
In addition, the refugee problem is just the tip of the iceberg. This guy explains it far better than I've tried to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE
There you go. Fuck refugees, not because of racism and not because of heartlessness, but because it's a fruitless, expensive, feel-good endeavour with no lasting impact of any sort. If you want to help people then you should help them help themselves. Put ALL the current money in to redeveloping broken nations and the results would be staggeringly different for the better of all.
>>673764122
>>673751788
Thinking of all the refugee dick you could suck you pathetic fucking cuckfag? Kill yourself, worthless shiteater.
>>673764211
>>673764263
>>673764180
> You know the US war was ALSO caused by more mudslimes starting shit.
Yes yes, and nigger fathers abandoning their children for a life of drug crime and gang violence is caused by job applications.
>>673750947
The whole point of mass immigration is to lower the price of labor, it's disguised as tolerance, humanitarian and other nonsense, when really it's base profiteering.
Politicians are funded by big businesses, and big businesses constantly outsource work to other countries to save money, but this is expensive, they want to lower the cost of labor in West Europe and North America, and the easiest way to do this is to directly add working class people into the population, ie, immigration.
Don't buy into the humanitarian nonsense, Politicians couldn't care less about what happens to people in other countries, they're owned by companies who have a vested interest in making West Europe and North America into countries like India and China, where labor is cheap and plentiful, and they're willing to lower our quality of life dramatically to do it.
>>673750947
they need to solve their own fucking problems in their own fucking country. if we just take in all the weak cowards that don't wanna fight for anything all these countries that are pouring out refugees are gonna turn to shit as only the crazy and hateful are left. and you are only as strong as your weakest link. so whats that say about us if we let all these fucking "conscientious objectors" into our country. im sorry if they live in a shit situation but its not gonna get any better if no-one fights to make it better. and America has enough of its own problems currently to be helping the world with all of theirs. look what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan. we went in killed a bunch of people and said "k, guys you're free now" they didn't have to fight for it so they didn't really care about it and what happened? the worst people took over cause they could and noone decent stood up to them.
You just have to love the Americans. They spend the last 60 years totally fucking the whole region. Shit go's south and all you can hear is 'not our problem', 'not our tax dollar' and 'not over here'.
Then they wonder why the rest of the world fucking hates them.
>>673764690
Thank you
>>673764331
So you can't answer the question. Thank you for proving my point, racist.
>>673762496
I know why there are refugees and I am not from the US.
>>673764211
There is a war in their home country you spastic fuck
>>673764690
> You just have to love the Muslims. They spend the last 600 years totally fucking the whole region. Shit go's south and all you can hear is 'ALLAHU ACKBAR', 'BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT ISLAM' and 'FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA, KILL THE JEWS'.
Then they wonder why their unprovoked attacks get responded to in force and blame their victims for defending themselves.
>>673750947
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>>673750947
geo wars bro. They could go to russia, China etc but the mericanpropaganda forced them to merkelland. merk+obam best friends and happy to ruin strong land and Europa. tbh u dont ask urself why they are forced to go to Europa and not to near lands?
>>673764451
Nice strawman, how about you get a real argument?
>>673764938
It's not their home country if they can't be assed to defend it. They don't deserve to have one.
>>673764867
Americans actually seem to think that usa is greater then the rest of the world... brainwashed idiots...lol
>>673764514
Then why is the U.S. sending troops there to "help" the people who are becoming refugees?
>>673765070
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sEI1AUFJKw
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>>673764938
>There is a war in their home country you spastic fuck
Big fucking deal, they cross a dozen safe countries to get to Europe for free handouts and White pussy - and you ass too no doubt
faggot bastard go fucking die
>>673765022
>unprovoked attacks
You must be American
>>673752750
shit nigga
/thread
>>673765205
American here. Not greater than the rest of the world. Just responsible for it against our will because the rest of you fucks won't be. We'd really like someone more competent at this than us to step in and take over global peacekeeping. Maybe Russia?
>>673765344
Yes, you caught me. It was Americans who wrote into the Koran to kill all the Jews. With their time travel machines.
>>673764938
go fuck yourself you fucking piece of shit. This anon gave you the best arguments about this situation, and you can only swear back
>i hope one of our new mooslim engineers will fuck you in the ass for taking you as the sissy faggot you are.
>>673765173
Small arms vs tanks. Perfect logic
Also outside actors like America, Russia and Saudi arming every one else
You must be American with that kind of 'logic'
>>673751788
>>673765331
>and you ass too
