explain to me why bernie sanders isn't gonna be the next
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explain to me why bernie sanders isn't gonna be the next US president.
inb4 where's the money coming from?
>>673243385
>>673243385
Because people are morons.
>>673243510
Oh god why would you do this to me...
>>673243385
>>673243741
NOBODY WEARS A FUCKING TIE TO GET A MINIMUM WAGE JOB. GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE FAGGOT.
>>673243842
you do realize that bernie is getting the money to support his plans by taxing wall street more. right>
>>673243741
Yes, but I'd make more than 15$ an hour being unemployed.
>>673243385
Because Americans aren't ready for that level of socialism
>>673243741
Replace the people in this image with 8 year old children asking to get paid 50 cents an hour
>>673243510
Being able to stick an entire screwdriver handle in your dickhole is kind of impressive in a fucked up way.
>>673243969
You do realize that is an insane plan that wont work right?
>>673244020
>>673244146
Because then they wouldn't be consenting adults?
Seriously?
Obama's last win was with something like only 52% of the vote? America has become crazier in 4 years... they get very adamant about not having another Democratic candidate win... which means all the crazies who push out 10 kids will end up voting in a republican while the Democrats who responsibly only have 1-3 kids don't breed up their babies.
>>673243969
And it will work because people don't really understand what wall street is about, except that there is a lot of money there.
>>673244210
Other than how hard it would be to get passed, why not?
>>673243969
Why does everybody hate fucking wallstreet? You could've been there if you chose to and worked hard, and it's not like they're evil.
>>673243385
Why is this even up for debait. He has literally no chance of winning the general.
>>673243585
This.
>>673244213
Tax
Tax
Tax
Tax
Tax
Why try to strive for anything better than the government standard?
>>673244331
It still holds up, following that logic there should be no labor regulations whatsoever
>>673244416
they make money by exploiting america and the rest of the world. they also live and breathe on fraud
>>673244351
You have this backwards fuckface
Because Hilary is the chosen one.
Can you say "superdelegates"?
>>673244528
Because you're a greedy capitalist and you deserve to be a slave to the community.
>>673244581
So?
That's like playing casual and hating metagamers. All because you choose not to ball hard, doesn't mean others shouldn't be able to.
>>673244395
>WS speculation
The reason it is used know is because it is barely regulated. Once bernster slaps that tax on it, people wont use it as much. They will only use it when need be, therefore the revenue drawl from it will not be enough to subsidize higher ed.
>>673244597
No kidding he does. NIGGERS vote democrat you (I mean the other anon) idiot.
>>673244538
How exactly does that hold up.
Are you so autistic that you compare an employment contract between consenting adults to child labor?
>>673244528
Unless you're in the top fucking 1%, the taxes don't apply to you.
>>673244776
clearly you are less than 18 years and have never had to support yourself.
>>673244713
But i get to choose to opt out and join the ranks of the neets, why would i want anything better when i can leech
It's funny to see that the people that don't know anything about economics think they know more about economics than a guy that has been in politics for almost his entire, long life....
Glad I don't live in the US
>>673244416
>they're not evil
Not universally, but here's a good example. Goldman Sachs sold subprime mortgage packages to people that they knew were shitty investments at high prices. Then they placed bets that the product they sold would fail, fucking those people over and making money in two ways. This is classic example of fraud, and was a direct cause in the financial disaster of 2008. Many other banks failed because of thier risky illegal behavior, and the tax payer was forced to bail them out.
As long as the banks exist the way do today there is risk that will fail, tanking the economy and requiring a bailout
>>673245020
Now you understand why Bernie will win.
>>673244501
>believing this
top kek m8, see you on suicide watch in November.
>>673244954
That's not true, fucktard. He admitted the average family will be paying 4k more per year.
>>673244938
>Are you so autistic that you compare an employment contract between consenting adults to child labor?
It's a completely justified comparison. The argument in that image can be used to argue that all regulation impedes freedom, which is silly
>>673243385
Where's the money coming from?
>>673244954
And why do you hate the 1% so much?
And if you believe the middle class, the largest pool of tax payers, wont be getting an increase you smoked some bad granola.
It's Hillary's 'turn', white women need more power because of feminism, Jews can't be trusted, Jews oppress and exploit blacks (black lives matter), Bernie is a cis man, we need a president that can get things done with a Republican congress (lol), Bernie will capitulate to unions that will create more industry wide collapses like what happened in car industry.
>>673244501
People who argue with you are clueless. Don't waste your time with the politically illiterate.
dubs and bernie dies tomorrow from a stroke
>>673244501
the republicans are not gonna win, if bernie is the democratic representative then he will win no doubt
>>673244995
Why?
All because you want to live in peace, does not mean that men's men are still not stirred to the rallies of glory. Surely you've heard them your self from time to time?
People shouldn't be blamed for fulfilling the secret dream the everyman.
>>673243385
He is
>too old
>too socialist
>too jewish
>>673244501
People say the same thing about Trump. Everyone's talking out of their ass though, and you know it.
Polling shows Bernie doesn't stand a chance in most remaining states.
Polling shows Trump doesn't stand a chance against Clinton.
Want to just get it over with and elect Clinton?
>>673245129
Sad. Oh well ill just buy a bunch of guns and fuck around on my taxes
Clinton's lead is to large to overcome at this point. If she gets indicted he might but still its doubtful.
Are you stupid or what?
Bernie supporters show their naïveté by assuming he has all this support. He's getting stomped by Hillary
She has nearly 3 times the delegates and 4 times the super delegates. Once she wins Illinois and then later Florida he won't even have a 1 in a million chance of winning the nomination. Fucking give up Jesus fuck.
>>673243969
Taxing Wall Street more is a horrible idea. Part of why so many companies are moving jobs overseas and/or reincorporating abroad is because the United States has some of the most uncompetitive corporate tax laws in the world. Our corporate tax rate is 40%, second highest in the world behind the United Arab Emirates. The European Union average is less than 23%. The global average is about 24%. Then the United States makes domestic corporations pay taxes on any money they make abroad. Most other countries don't do that; they only make you pay taxes on your profits in that country regardless of whether or not you're incorporated there.
So, we have a corporate tax rate that's nearly double our nearest economic rivals, we're one of the only countries that double taxes foreign profits, we already have a problem with corporations abandoning this country to reincorporate abroad, and he wants to RAISE these taxes? That is the most economically clueless idea I have ever heard from a politician.
>>673244213
Looks like a cartoon. I guess his supporters are that stupid.
>>673245043
That I can understand, but doesn't that mean that the ones who are being told to exploit us and don't are kind of heroic?
>>673245571
She'll be elected before any indictment and will then have immunity.
>>673245351
Only tax increases if you make more than 250k a year. Granted if we get universal health care there will be a 2.2% increase in taxes for all, but I would save money if I paid 2.2% more in taxes and didn't have to pay insurance premiums
>>673244351
>>673245514
That's what we need: a whole bunch of tax protestors.
>>673244528
>>>673244213
>Tax
>Tax
>Tax
>Tax
>Tax
>Why try to strive for anything better than the government standard?
>>673244528
Why keeping giving tax breaks for people who already have too much money meanwhile the average american strive to get by? Why everyone in the country has to go bankrupt when someone gets cancer or break a leg meanwhile companies that fuck our environment and serve noone but to make the owners richer while fucking our environment gets breaks? Why the student has to start their career with 500k debt?
The conservative way is Inverse Socialism. Privatize profits (and no taxes on those profits) and socialize losses and risk. 2008 was just the preview.
Fucking conservadorism and neoliberalism is what killing America and thats why Europeans are way more developed than us
>>673245439
yes but that is like saying that being a conman is ok because you get rich therefore you are untouchable.
>>673243385
He's a jew.
/thread
Trump has the most delegates in Republicans
Hillary has the most delegates in democrats
How is this hard for you guys.
Those. Are. The. Candidates.
>>673245571
Bernie need 54% of the remaining delegates to have the most pledged delegate
and don't give me that shit about superdelegates, they will vote for bernie if he wins, just like they did for Obama
>>673245732
Oh yeah so i can get the same sub par care that the other jabronis get, sweet! Also again if you think bernie can do all of his plans off of 1%er money, youre shrooming hard and should go back to your subreddits
>>673245822
nice job /threading your own post
>>673244805
Higher education. Like your fucking ass is worth it.
Get used to making french-fries.
>>673245597
I'm so surprised that delegates are leaning towards the safe bet, who could have predicted.
Of course, they do also change their minds, like when they switched from Clinton to Obama in 08. It just requires sufficient proof of a candidates legitimate chance of winning. I think Bernie supporters are still just holding out for that, because the view the alternative as giving in to a corrupt government.
>>673245351
>And why do you hate the 1% so much?
I hate the 1% that refuse to redistribute their needless excess of wealth. I hate greed for the purpose of just being a huge faggot with a ton of money that they'll never spend.
>>673243385
>Superdeleagtes
>>673244351
That's backwards buddy
>>673245792
>implying people with money didn't earn it.
>>673245612
but what we are getting for paying higher taxes is:
free health care
free college
it is a pretty good deal over all
>>673245975
Bless your ignorant but well meaning heart.
>>673245797
I think that maybe it's a "should a tiger be put down for eating a man" type-scenario, and much bigger than this and not really relevant. Sorry for bringing it up.
>>673245822
Trumps family and children are Jews, the more yiu know
>>673245482
>yfw Trump is 69 years old
>>673246047
They do spend their money, idiot.
That's what wall street is.
>>673245732
More cartoons.
>>673245792
Can you really have too much money?
You realize taking money someone else earned is stealing right?
We as citizens ALLOW the government to tax us to get shit done.
The government or you, my little NEET friend are not entitled to a single cent of anyone elses money. Faggot.
Get a job.
>>673246133
>calls others ignorant
>not intelligent enough to form an argument
>>673245597
>Fucking give up Jesus fuck.
No.
>>673246047
Do better with your life so you can be one of them, then. Punishing the successful is bullshit. Fair shares... sure, close some fucking loopholes, but taking just because they got lucky or worked hard is bullshit.
>>673246301
>>673246117
Quit using that word "free", dipshit.
>>673246047
Oh you're so fucking noble.
>>673245043
I find it funny when niggers on facebook complain about Bernie always complaining about banks and not talking about real issues. Dumb niggers don't know that Chase profits from interest on their EBT, banks for years structured payments to create overdraw fees, the finance industry lobbies to keep many industries from being regulated by CFPB so they can rip poor people off.
>>673245792
>Europeans are way more developed than us
>Europeans also have a completely failing economy and incredible immigration policies that are netting them titles such as "Rape capital of the world."
>Europeans are way more developed than us
>>673246321
I have no desire to. You have proven you won't understand.
>>673245792
College faggot detected
Probably got a degree in liberal arts or music and is now working next to HS Dropouts to pay for his bad decisions.
Resources are finite idiot.
>>673246554
is someone mad because they are wrong??
Boo Hoo
>>673246217
They are not running for office dickface.
>>673246632
Thanks. I was hoping I wasn't the only one.
>>673245975
The super delegates voted for Obama because he was black. Bernie is an old white guy, going against a woman.
>>673245792
>>673245597
>She has nearly 3 times the delegates
Hillary Clinton 745
Bernie Sanders 540
>nearly 3 times
I know conservatives are bad at math, and, well, facts... But Jesus Christ!
>>673246045
What?
Obama was clearly the safer bet.
He's a moderate.
The King of the moderates.
Clinton is and was way more liberal than Obama
>>673246446
Hurr, Durr, lifes not fair, whaaaaah.
>>673246883
>red state
>>673246038
Good thing i already have my degree and job in my field, sorry your degree in basket weaving didnt ban out
>>673246045
Blah blah corrupt govt Tinfoil hats conspiracy.
There aren't that many Bernie supporters dude.
There's more population than 18-27 white college kids
>>673246698
>Resources are finite idiot.
Which is why they should be consumed and wasted as rapidly as possible by an economic system that is increasingly producing social decay instead of vital technological and social progress? You're ignorant as shit, tbh.
>>673246870
They voted for Obama to protect themselves. If Bernie wins the pledged delegates, any politicians that vote for Hillary will be heavily criticized and many will not be re-elected
>>673246117
No it's not. You're taking arguably the least competitive corporate tax laws in the developed world and making them substantially less competitive. You're actively creating a disincentive toward incorporating in the United States and potentially even giving foreign corporations reason to scale down their American interests or leave the market entirely because you greatly reduce the economic viability of having a presence here. Any societal gains from increased taxes in that field would be, at best, offset by the resulting loss in economic activity.
>>673247014
>red state
>>673246956
You ignored the point of my post, which was the last sentence. People go around acting like people must be crazy to support this candidate or that candidate. Usually people have pretty decent reasons (even if you disagree). That was my point.
>>673246566
Funny you should mention blacks. They are not falling for bern's shit.
But you stupid white kids are.
>>673246981
Life's not fair, so why would you argue against policies that try to create equal opportunity?
>>673246939
You stupid kid?
>>673243385
>implying votes actually matter
I hope you are ready for 16 years of Clinton
>>673247158
>>673247046
*pan
You're welcome.
>>673246939
>Conservatives are bad at math
>Conservatives are stupid
>Not just accepting a schism in basic human philosophy
I'm not going to say anything about either party, but that's fucking retarded right there.
>>673247384
if clinton gets in then we are fucked
>>673247344
>not knowing what super delegates are
>insulting others intelligence
>>673247344
inb4
>those numbers are the right ones, Burnie has a chance!
>>673246241
there is a big difference between 69 and 74 when you have to serve a four year term and potentially 8 years. Besides trumps not going to win either.
>>673247427
conservatives are fucking ignorant as fuck
>>673246939
Someone doesn't agree with you, must be a conservative.
God you're retarded. College would be a waste on you.
>>673247046
Is it paid off?
>>673247204
>You're taking arguably the least competitive corporate tax laws in the developed world
No major corporation pays the set corporate tax rate. That's one of the many government actions designed to protect entrenched economic interests from competition.
>>673243385
He is getting votes at 1/3 the rate of Hillary.
When you get less votes, you don't win.
IF he gets the nomination, I think he has a good chance. Hillary has a long history of lying and cheating, she will pull every dirty trick in her witches hat to win.
>>673247407
Cran*
Your welcomed
>>673244954
Yeah it astounds me how retarded the people who are saying "I'm gunna be taxed!!!"
Those morons, do they think they are billionaires? How retarded are they?
>>673247395
You have no understanding of socialism whatsoever.
>>673247681
I graduated with 10k debt, what do you think?
>>673247802
What the fuck does cran out mean?
Do you teach in Detroit?
>>673247743
Bernie gets shit on in conservative states where the democrats are mostly black, but everywhere else he wins. And Hillary is running out of southern states, no reason to give up yet
>>673245427
you're on crack if you think people are going to go for a third term under a democrat
>>673246089
>>673246306
>>673246632
>>673246698
holy shit its like you guys didn't even read what he said. just saw the word money and immediately went for the 'LOL FREE STUFF' argument
>>673247298
That is not the purpose of government.
I am also smart enough to know that even though I am middle class those laws could be used against me.
>>673247937
>implying i care about anything more than shitposting
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>>673247384
16 years?
Despite being best candidate he won't be president because voters are retarded, $hillary lies all day.
>Picture is of Hillary flip flopping once again
>>673248043
most people hate trump and he is the only republican that actually has a chance. There will not be another republican until they change their beliefs
>>673247962
Detruoit*
Welcomed is your
>>673248151
8 in the past, 8 to come, duh.
>>673244020
Oh shittt our national debt omggg so worried
>>673247495
What?
The super delegates are there to make sure a communist doesn't win.
she has more pledged. And more UN pledged. Because she's going to get the nomination. Bernie barely has any supporters.
>>673247947
That you're lying.
>>673248217
Thunx
>>673244020
>implying any of the candidates will fix this issue
>>673247158
The problem, though, is that we are so reliant on these finite resources (Mostly oil) that this massive shift that is trying to shaft the consumption and production of them, is causing problems.
It takes time to change things. Done right, we could possibly switch over to renewable resources in about 50 years, but Obama and the left-wing seem to think that these things can just be pushed through and done in a few years, and as such they are killing the economy that is so based on oil and other finite resources, which in turn discourages people from investing in Sun and Nuclear because the economy is not stable enough for such things.
We need to look to the future, and realize that it may take time to preserve time. We can't just all jump all at once, we've got to ween ourselves away or we risk destroying vital markets that bolster and maintain the economy.
Also worth mentioning that is it the very oil and other finite-resource companies that will most likely be putting the big-bucks and leading the way into alternative energies as well.
>>673243385
Because Americans are fucking stupid and think it's a good idea to vote for a billionaire lunatic
Because his Robin Hood plans won't work. Trust me, the 1% has enough money to tax evade or leave if they want too.
>>673248197
>Most people hate Trump
Establishment cuck detected.
>>673247344
Do you see the dark blue part? Those aren't actually determined yet. Read the fine print. SUPERDELGATES. Then go look that up and find out why you're wrong, fuckwit.
Google displays them because they want people to believe it's over, even though only 1/4th of the delegates are decided. Google is a major Clinton contributor.
>>673248230
Well stupid people are often asked to explain themselves.
>>673248354
Whys that? Is it illegal for people to have scholarships and jobs while in uni?
>>673243585
Yes people are stupid for not wanting to give up all their money so feminazis nigger lives matter and white guilt being taught all over the country mandatory at the expense of the middle class
>>673248346
Back in 2008, all the super delegates pledged for Hillary. Then Obama won the most pledged delegates, and they switched sides. This most likely will happen again
Also
>democratic socialism == communism
Learn political science
>>673247980
Nobody is giving up.
I just do a lot of statistics, and just running the numbers in my head, his odds aren't good.
OP asked a question, I just put in my two cents.
>>673244020
Bernie Sanders is the only nigga that's going to get in there and try to fix the national debt.
>>673248256
You should be.
>>673247495
they carry the same amount of importance in the race. Superdelegates just represent the views of a single person while a regular delegate might support multiple people. shes winning by more than 100% bernie fucker
>>673247249
The point of your post was a sarcasm filled jab at the political integrity of non Bernie supporters. It's not just a safe bet.
Bernie is a bad bet.
Like doubling down on a 6 in blackjack.
>>673248376
Thanxits*
>>673248560
I thought they simply asked stupid questions.
>>673248530
it's true. most people that are intelligent understand that his execution is weak as fuck
>>673248567
This is why
>>673248604
>Fix national debt
>Spend more money
>Only raise enough money to break even on his free shit.
>>673243385
Because of this guy. Trump will win against Bernie.
>>673243385
ACTUAL RECENT QUOTE FROM DONALD TRUMP FOUND ON CNN:
"i like to dress up as wolvy (my 3rd fav x man)
not everybody thinks that its cool, but i finally met a girl who thinks im a 10/10 would bang like bam in my wolverine suit.
she'd come over sometimes while her boyfriend was away after school.
once the door would close she'd almost instantly get naked. most times she'd put on her favorite song and start sucking. then she would cry. her tears and makeup would drip down her face onto my dick. its surprising how cold tears are. eventually i finally asked her what was wrong. in between licks she told me that her favorite song was also her bfs favorite song. so even though she loved hearing it and it totally got her pussy wet, it also made her think about the fact that she was cheating on her boyfriend. i dont think i ever came harder down somebodies throat then right after she told me that. she was beautiful. we dont hang out anymore. wanna get lunch?
this was the song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tgwFpMA61c
>>673248666
Fvch
>>673248619
>Superdelegates just represent the views of a single person
Not if that person is afraid they won't get re-elected if they ignore the will of the people
>>673248346
>Bernie barely has any supporters.
He literally has more than any other candidate.
About half of them are independents, though, and thus can't vote in the democratic primaries.
http://www.inquisitr.com/2641744/bernie-sanders-2016-election-victory-independents-could-win-presidency-for-fiery-vermont-senator/
>>673248831
What the fuck did you just spew out your whatever, you little loser? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at Trump University, I’ve been involved in numerous hot bids on NYC real estates, and I have over 300 confirmed deals. I am trained in gorilla undercutting and I’m the top navigator in the entire US centipede forces. You are nothing to me but just another transaction. I will out-compete the fuck out of you with energy the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that crap to me over the Internet? Think again, dummy. As we speak I am contacting my fully-disclosed network of attorneys across the USA and your lawyer is being contacted right now so you better prepare for the lawsuit, liar. The court date that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking broke, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime. I can settle with you in over seven hundred ways, and I never settle cases! Not only am I extensively trained in the art of the deal, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the The Trump Organization and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable assets off the face of the continent, you low-energy loser. If only you could have known what unpresidential retribution your little “libelous” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn dummy. I will build walls all around you and you will pay for it. You’re fucking stumped, kiddo.
>>673243969
Oh man, is this how gullible liberal college students are? Do they even teach critical thinking skills anymore, or is that part of the patriarchy too?
I JUST WANT BILL CLINTON AGAIN FUCK HILLARY GIMME BILL
>>673248197
your friends and family don't openly tell you that they support trump, but when they go to the polls it is anonymous so they will vote for him without feeling guilty. He has more closet supporters than you realize.
I'll vote for him, but only joke about it in front of people. They think I'm just kidding around
>>673248565
You answers were a little fast, implying they were pre-thought.
Now tell me you stupid little college fuck exactly where did I make any statement as to legality of working while your in college?
That's how I know you're lying.
>>673247682
Then why would they pay if they were raised? If you simply close the loopholes they'll still pick up and leave before paying a full 40% on domestic profits and an average of 63% on European profits when you factor in the fact we double tax those.
If you want to help better fund social programs while spurring economic growth a better idea is something like this: No more loopholes like hiding behind some holding company in the Cayman Islands, no more double taxation, drop the base corporate tax rate to somewhere in the neighborhood of 25-28%, and offer incentives to corporations who actively promote domestic job growth by, for example, giving them a break so that their tax rate is around 20%. That promotes job growth and gives corporations reason to increase their presence here rather than abroad by giving them a lower tax rate than they'd have in competitors like the EU (23%), China (25%), or Japan (33%). It's kind of protectionist, but at the same time you give everyone at least some of what they want. You create jobs at home, you lessen the overall burden, and you make sure what is owed gets paid instead of allowing a means to weaseling your way out of it.
>>673248984
>implying i am a college student
>>673247158
Why would companies who make billions want to waste resources? You don't understand how businesses work dude.
If you waste your product you'll go broke.
Tons of companies are bettering the world in ways you couldn't dream of.
What can you do for the environment?
Plant a few dozen trees in your lifetime
Eat vegan
Multinational companies can plant millions. Cut down as much as they can on pollution. Make conservation.
All for tax breaks.
They help
We help them.
It's called balance.
>>673248984
It is, sadly. I blame it on all the medication Millennials are taking.
>>673248592
I bet you have a rabbits foot too.
>>673248053
More that I was just pointing out the ridiculousness of envying the EU over America.
>Europeans are way more developed than us
Is a misguided and idiotic statement ignoring what they've done to their economy and to their people through poor immigration practices.
I'm not arguing against his points, just pointing that out.
>>673248800
I have noticed the exact opposite
maybe you just aren't intelligent, and do not know how to tell if someone is
>>673248822
>trump will win against bernie
No, he fucking won't.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/08/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-says-he-consistently-beats-donald-t/
>>673244213
This stupid chart again. You realize that 75 billion won't even cover half the current number of college students, never mind everybody. You libs are sucking the kool-aid hard.
>>673249192
This
>>673243585
Amen
>>673249094
there is literally no reason to vote for him. he has all the awful qualities of previous presidents:
1. liar- richard nixon
2. womenizer - bill clinton
3. ignorant - george bush
4. weak execution - obama
literally no reason to vote for his dumb ass
>>673249203
I bet you believe that america isn't already a social democracy
>>673249363
Bernies plan is only to make public colleges tuition free, estimated to cost 60 billion a year
>>673249448
so·cial de·moc·ra·cy
noun
a socialist system of government achieved by democratic means.
>>673244713
So you're what, a communist?
>>673247561
No, politicals are ignorant as fuck. The intelligent and wise people either get good pay and don't give a fuck, or just don't give a fuck in general.
>>673248984
Problem being, you are arguing with people that aren't old enough to vote. They can't comprehend most of these things because they still live at home and have no bills.
It's like explaining fiscal policy to a goat. No matter how much explaining/teaching/fact finding you do, they will just eat the test, and shit on your boots.
>>673249611
>socialist
>>673248949
LOL inquistr as a source. Please die.
>>673249431
the reason to vote for him is that if you don't, you'll need to vote for Clinton or Sanders and there is no chance in hell I would ever do that.
>>673249607
Here's some reading for you, I don't have time to explain basic political science to you
http://billmoyers.com/2015/07/03/social-democracy-is-100-american/
>>673248592
Democratic socialism is far closer to communism than democracy
>>673249663
politics control the US. the fuck you mean? people that dont care about politics are ignorant because they dont care to give a shit
>>673249117
Business interests will always just put the loopholes back in. They'll probably lobby to increase the corporate tax rate as well to protect themselves from successful and growing small businesses. The economic elite has overwhelming influence over government policy.
>>673249669
Kasparov may be a genius when it comes to chess but he is a retard when it comes to politics. He literally thinks bernie sanders is a communist
>>673248604
Its kind of sad that Bernie has consistently worked for civil rights his whole adult life and all the blacks are voting for Hillary.
>>673248592
It's literally the same thing with a nicer name.
Take a political science course instead of just talking out of your ass.
>>673249817
how the fuck is the US socialist? we are the furthest thing from socialist
>>673248567
We are legion
>>673249845
Well the US has been democratic socialist country for at least a century, so we must be close to communism. Every presidential candidate that doesn't want to repeal social security is a socialist to some degree
>>673249987
That's just redistribution of votes, silly. He should be all for it.
>>673249845
You have no idea what communism is.
>>673250067
kek
>>673250024
>Social Security
>medicare/medicaid
>public elementary/ high schools
>food stamps
>unemployment benefits
>publicly funded military
>publicly funded police/firemen
Literally every person who doesn't oppose these policies is a socialist to some degree
>>673246632
lol is that what you americunts think? all those trans-fats must be getting to your brain.
>>673249356
Don't believe the polls. My preference is either Hillary or Bernies but don't underestimate Trump and the collective stupidity of America.
>>673249908
>The US
Why should I give a fuck? About a country that supports petty squabbles over strong action, and doesn't get that Conservative vs. Liberal is flagrantly ingrained in human nature? Countries rise and fall all the time, and I have no reason to thing tis'll be any different in the grand scheme of things. I will do my work, and if this country argues me out of pay, then I will move elsewhere. I'm an Ashkenazi. We do business without boarders.
>>673248053
What? He's asking for less tax breaks for companies.
So he's a liberal. He's asking for free stuff.
Tax breaks keep companies in America. Idiot.
It's so fucking basic I don't know how you fucks dont get it
>>673250407
this is like saying that everyone who is for supports the idea of having a business is republican. maybe back in 1860 but this is 2016 dumbfuck
>>673243741
You do realize that it'll adjusted for inflation, cost of living and taxes, our minimum wage is supposed to be about $20 right
>>673249363
I'm not anyone you were speaking to. I live about ten blocks from a university that has about a billion dollar expansion, that's half done.
His crazy plans don't cover things like that, or even take them into account. They only cover tuition.
Not operating costs or expansion. The university near me is set to buy out twenty city blocks.
I like Sanders ideas, I just don't see the plans to make it a reality. I see gross under estimates and many details ignored.
The DNC started out HEAVILY favoring Hillary. Debbie Schultz (DNC chairperson) didn't even bother hiding it; she told reporters Hillary should be the next president. They set up a debate schedule that heavily favored Hillary in the primaries (few debates in bad time slots meant Hillary, who already had enormous name recognition, had a huge advantage over Sanders who didn't) and gave and almost all of the super-delegates, which furthered the idea that Hillary's nomination was indisputable by showing her with an enormous lead.
Beyond that, it's black people's fault. Hillary's policies favor more explicit help to minorities, while Bernie favors helping the poor in general, with the assumption that helping the poor will help poor minorities, and rich minorities don't need help. Obviously, Hillary's plan is more popular with minorities, which is why she's winning their votes in landslides all over the country.
>>673250407
Democratic socialism is a publically funded means of production.
Meaning all sources of production are owned and funded by the government.
That's a terrible idea.
Have you seen the fucking roads.
Would you rather take a highway or a turnpike?
Go to the DMV?
Ever been in court?
Illinois just had to stop paying it's WHOLE STATE because of budget issues.
Correctional officers locked down the prisons and sat there unpaid for a week.
You think giving them MORE stuff is a good idea?
>>673249669
Fuck this retard. The socialist policies Bernie wants to implement are the same ones that have been successfully implemented in countries all over the world, not the backwards communist shit Russia tried.
>>673250163
You're literally talking out of your ass.
Democratic socialism is the same for the greater good for the party crap.
There just isn't a gun to their heads.
It's willing ignorance instead of forced.
Fucking commie
>>673251177
Exactly. Amerifags are all up in flames over policies that are considered the norm all across Europe. Those idiots are treated like animals and don't even realise it. I fucking hope Trump wins, they deserve him.
>>673245482
>yfw the president of the US reports to Jew overlords anyway.
>>673250786
> beyond that it's black peoples fault
Oh shit reddit, did you just say that? You might need to get off the chan for awhile. We're getting into your head.
>>673249669
>communism = democratic socialism
fucking retard peace of shit russian faggot
wheres the money coming from?
>>673250407
>>publicly funded military
>>publicly funded police/firemen
no, people who don't support those are anarchists.
>>673250756
Local universities here are losing about 300 teaching jobs.
The 'capitalist' machine can't keep up the Higher Education Industry so how could socialism..
Bernie supporters don't realize that college is just another industry. They're just selling you a bullshit product with a fancy piece of paper.
Unless you're in a STEM field. You shouldnt have gone to college.
>>673250407
>not wanting
>publicly funded military
>publicly funded police/firemen
what the fuck is wrong with you jewcocksuckers
>>673251613
He's going to instruct the department of agriculture to plant those trees on his first day of office.
> current year
> not having a money tree in your backyard
> not understanding he will plant lots of them
It's like your not even trying
>>673251809
>land of the "free"
>no free education
this is why there's so many retards over there.
>>673251809
dae muh stem
Yeah, we don't need to learn about music, history, arts or literature. Let's just all be autistic robots.
>>673251425
Enjoy your refugees and shitty economy
Maybe when the shitty side of the EU drags the wealthy countries down you'll realize your follies.
Or when theyre invaded.
>European countries not owing their very existence to America
Lolololololol
>>673251337
>Democratic socialism is the same for the greater good for the party crap
As I said, you have no understanding of socialism whatsoever. You've never bothered to try to learn anything about it, and so you're denouncing the capitalist boogeyman in the same way that a Christian denounces Satan. It's equally ignorant and means absolutely nothing.
>>673251809
tbh sounds like a shit system mate
>>673251337
except your wrong and with just with google you could find what it really is.
>>673251809
>The 'capitalist' machine can't keep up the Higher Education Industry so how could socialism..
When the state has exactly the same role in a capitalist economy that private individuals would have otherwise, that's not socialism - that's state capitalism.
>>673251452
>> beyond that it's black peoples fault
>Oh shit reddit, did you just say that? You might need to get off the chan for awhile. We're getting into your head.
Lolol he is a Bernie supporter and a racist.
You think maybe black people don't trust a fucking commie old bastard white guy that is the senator of a 95% white state???????????????
>Hurr durr he walked in black rights
Big fucking deal. That's like saying his suffering was any amount equal to a black citizens then.
He was a white unharmed jew.
The most he got was sore feet.
>>673252238
The last girl I dated, had a degree in dance from Juilliard.
Want to know what she was doing?
She was live in manger for section 8 housing. Her degree probably cost twelve times what she made in a year. >>673251809 makes a point you can't understand because you lack life experience.
Your post shows that.
>>673252274
>>European countries not owing their very existence to America
we'd have a pure white europe so fuck you jew cunt and go cut baby dicks or what ever you do
>>673252274
>highest standard of living in the world
>free education
>free healthcare
>functioning, modern infrastructure
>can go outside without getting shot
Stay butthurt, idiot. I'll enjoy watching your country collapse under the weight of it's own stupidity.
>>673252678
>Big fucking deal. That's like saying his suffering was any amount equal to a black citizens then. He was a white unharmed jew. The most he got was sore feet.
And this makes Hillary Clinton a superior candidate for the black community?
>>673252828
Yeah it would be great idea for everyone to go for the same education and jobs, no problems can come from that.
>>673252828
That doesn't indicate a problem with her. That's a problem with her society's economic system.
>>673252828
You lack life experience if you think everyone's education should be limited to STEM. What a shitty world you must live in.
>>673252678
this is people hate niggers
>"waah so oppressed"
>"no fuck you white devil"
>>673245612
see thats the problem you think they actually pay those taxes.
>>673247530
you're a clinical moron. kill yourself.
>>673244954
>Remove payroll tax cap above 250K
Way more than top 1% will be hit by that.
>Additional 0.2% payroll tax
Literally hits everyone with a job
>6.2% income-based health care premium paid by employers
Employers will just factor this in to total compensation, basically a 6.2% tax on everyone
>2.2% income based premium paid by households
Hits everyone
>Taxing capital gains and dividends same as work income
Hits a huge portion of the middle class who is actually saving for retirement.
>>673252678
It just caught me off balance. If you read most of these kids posts;
> equality
> human rights
> help the poor
> blacks don't belong in such high numbers
> Bernie... civil rights....
> black lives matter
Just blew my mind to see that they are being indoctrinated by us much more than they have changed anyone.
They should trust old Jew over Clinton, she's got history of being a racist and a liar.
Just blows my mind. Pic extremely unrelated.
>>673245732
Not an accurate depiction of Sander's tax plan. ALL tax brackets are going to go up, and ALL payroll taxes are going to go up.
>>673243385
He's not going to beat Hillary in delegate counts unless some of the super delegates go his way. which is extremely unlikely
>>673254229
Fortunately I'm voting for Bernie Sanders. I don't know who this Sander guy is.
>>673246445
"punishing the successful" why are people like you so retarded. making sure that the lower class people are healthy and happy is better for the upper class because the drones provide better services. lUCK is exactly why these types of systems are needed. Not everyone can be successful its just not possible. So those that do have should always give some so that those with nothing can have something. No one is asking the super rich to build mansions for everyone. With the amount of money at the top in america we should never have anyone be homeless and no one should go hungry.
>>673252238
You can look at art and read books at your leisure you don't need people to sit in a circle and tell you how to feel or think.
Hurr durr that book was like sad and stuff boss I really really liked that book.
Anyone can do art. Read a book. Or play music. That's why it's called playing music. Because you play. You're playing. Children play
>>673243741
Question: Why is the job worth $7.25 an hour?
I mean, I hear a lot of people say that a minimum wage job of $7.25 an hour is all that job is worth and it's not worth $15. But why is it worth $7.25 and hour? What about, say, in 1990, when the minimum wage was $3.80 and hour? Shouldn't jobs that paid $3.80 an hour then be worth $3.80 an hour today? Surely the value of that work has not gone up.
>>673254932
There are short people, there are tall people.
There are healthy people, there are sick people.
There are smart people, there is you.
>>673249117
You need to lookup what happened when they gave more tax cuts to people in kansas. None of the companies hired more people if they did it was one or two people. All they did is lined their pockets with the extra money. I agree with the idea of giving tax breaks to companies that promote growth in america but it doesnt work that way. unless you force those people to do it they wont.
>>673245753
>implying people actually want smart people in positions of power
>>673252398
>I say youre wrong so you are
They're literally the same thing.
I'm not denouncing a capitalist boogeyman. There is no boogeyman. Capitalism is free
YOU WANT LEFT WING? IMMA GIVE YOU SOME EXTREME LEFT WING. TAX THE KIDS, TAX BREAD, TAX BREATHING, BETTER FUCKING INCREASE THAT BY 50% TOO
>>673253603
I hope you never make it to your 70s.
>>673243385
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w2qhmyoA8o
Sanders will never become president.
The Democrats have rigged the process so Hillary WILL get the nomination no matter what happens.
Mark my words.
Bernie can win states by 50% margins and it won't matter, because the superdelegates are all in the bag for Hillary. It's a fait accompli.
>>673246089
>implying inheritance doesn't exist
>>673250695
no.... im pretty sure social programs are part of socialism. You dont want to admit those systems work if monitored and handled properly. That in the end, is the bigger problem. Our government would have to be 100% transparent if we were to expand social systems.
>>673243510
Does this guy make all the feels threads?
>>673243385
Much as I want him to get the position, can he realistically get the primary from Hillary? Even if he does, will he have enough supporters across the nation to ultimately beat Trump? I'm not a betting man myself, but I have all but resigned myself for President Trump's imminent rise.
>>673255871
No, your version of "communism" is capitalism's fictitious boogeyman. You refuse to even engage with real socialism, which is entirely different from what you think it is. American capitalism is very similar to a religion, including in its willful ignorance and fairy-tale worldview.
>>673255871
please provide any proof to your claim that they are the same thing. actual examples not just saying they are over and over while you jump up and down. the two are not mutually exclusive. communism is always bad but socialist systems are dependent on the system governing them.. which is the real issue.
>>673255605
The point is to allow companies and bosses to pay people what they want.
Not be forced by government.
>>673257300
>communism is always bad but socialist systems are dependent on the system governing them
No, that's also wrong. You're taking an anti-"free-market" capitalist approach but with an American capitalist worldview. This will end in social democracy, weakening of the desire for change while keeping the plutocratic power structure intact, and reforms that will merely begin another cycle of decay into corrupt "crony" capitalism.
Until you learn the differences between socialism and welfare capitalism, you're not fighting the corrupt system, you're helping it to survive through these crises it has created. And there will be another generation in the future who will have to suffer as the Millennials have suffered in this world of "fixed" captialism. If our civilization lasts that long.
>>673257594
That's not what the picture says. It says $7.25 and hour. And I've seen that "minimum wage job is not worth more than $7.25 an hour" argument in many place. So why are people willing to accept the current minimum wage as what the job is worth, when a few decades ago that job was worth way less thanks to the lower minimum wage.
>The point is to allow companies and bosses to pay people what they want.
Race to the bottom isn't a very good idea either, unless you want to become a 3rd world country.
>>673255605
>Surely the value of that work has not gone up.
no the value of money has gone down. Wages need to keep pace with inflation.
>>673258688
>the value of money has gone down
Even when adjusted to inflation, the minimum wage is higher now than it was back then.
