Daily reminder that Bernie Sanders supporters are economically-illiterate manchildren
>>673136284
this.
he doesn't actually know the meaning of "democratic socialist"
>>673136573
>pushes both anyway
Free shit for everyone!
>>673136440
>>673136672
He wants the first two years of college to be free, not the entire degree, moron. Please don't reproduce.
>>673136819
love that one
>>673136573
>>673136861
>implying it's going to be free
>>673136284
You're fucking stumped, kiddo.
>What the fuck did you just spew out your whatever, you little loser? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at Trump University, I’ve been involved in numerous hot bids on NYC real estates, and I have over 300 confirmed deals. I am trained in gorilla undercutting and I’m the top navigator in the entire US centipede forces. You are nothing to me but just another transaction. I will out-compete the fuck out of you with energy the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that crap to me over the Internet? Think again, dummy. As we speak I am contacting my fully-disclosed network of attorneys across the USA and your lawyer is being contacted right now so you better prepare for the lawsuit, liar. The court date that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking broke, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime. I can settle with you in over seven hundred ways, **and I never settle cases!** Not only am I extensively trained in the art of the deal, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the The Trump Organization and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable assets off the face of the continent, you low-energy loser. If only you could have known what unpresidential retribution your little “libelous” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn dummy. I will build walls all around you and you will pay for it. You’re fucking stumped, kiddo.
[Source] (https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/49pb6w/youre_fucking_stumped_kiddo/).
https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/49pgru/youre_fucking_stumped_kiddo/
>>673136861
what is "free"?
>>673137000
Fuckin trips bois
>>673137000
>>673137426
so i guess god is also a unicorn that knows how to run a broken country
Bernie's theme song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLTTX35LNJo
>>673136284
Bernie cucks on suicide watch
>>673137106
where is your degree? can we have a picture?
>>673137210
Free is meaning instead of our taxes going to pay corporate bailouts, tax refunds, and subsidies to low income earners, its going to actually help people who dont have excessive amounts of money. Nice try you fig
>>673137956
>help people who dont have excessive amounts of money
You keep believing that
>>673137956
this will overburden the universities who participate by introducing pos "students" who don't actually give a shit for a better education.
This will diminish the value of that education.
This is already happening when it's not free.
get your head out of your ass and realize that the reason the loan is there is so you have an incentive to give a shit at school.
>>673137841
>No refutation
wew
>>673137786
this is are criminals?
>>673137956
great then college will be High School 2.0....
>>673138780
No, just cucks
Tax the corporations and wealthy who hide and shelter their money fairly. Cut off the war machine military industrial complex corporate welfare that writes foreign policy. End Wall street bailouts and hold them accountable for what they do. That will build the economy. I'm not economically illiterate and I support Sanders' plans. Democratic socialism is not evil nor is it communism, unfortunately most uneducated Americans equate anything socialism with communism because they've been told to believe so.
>>673137956
>>673138522
If taxes are theft, you are being stolen from now anyways. Id rather get something back than have it go to paying ceos more.
>>673138638
explain denmark and sweden you half brained twat
>>673138836
You dont have to go
>>673139065
name one place socialism has EVER worked? Go ahead. DO IT
>>673139177
Fyi, business get tax refunds. Thats us paying them. Se are already losing the money. We should at least get something in return
>social democracy will never work
>minimum wages will never work
>free higher education will never work
Works in all of europe muricafags
>>673139065
>Americans equate anything socialism with communism because they've been told to believe so.
>Socialism: a social system or theory in which the government owns and controls the means of production (as factories) and distribution of goods.
>government owns and controls the means of production
I'm very aware of what Socialism is, Muhammad. Now please stay out of my thread
>>673139306
denmark and sweden doesn't have a generation of twats who think they are entitled to everything.
also, holy shit the population differences.
>>673137629
It's called technological unemployment
>>673136284
https://www.budget.senate.gov/democratic/public/index.cfm/2015/7/top-economists-are-backing-sen-bernie-sanders-on-establishing-a-15-an-hour-minimum-wage
Daily reminder that all conservatives think reason and evidence are liberal conspiracies.
>>673138638
I'm not a Sanders fan, but you're fucking delusional if you think student loans exist as some kind of ethical motivator.
The loans exist because universities and banks have colluded to get as many low income asses in chairs as possible. They WANT all the poor people to get subsidized loans for useless degrees because it's insanely more profitable than people who get an actually valuable education and pay off their loans in a timely manner.
>>673139502
America. Most of our govt jobs work on socialism
>>673139306
>Theft is justified because my arbitrary morals tell me so
>>673139502
DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM :
Here you go my uneducated friend. This is from one second on Google.
http://liberapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Social_Democracy_as_in_Scandinavia
>>673139065
you literally do not know what democratic socialism is.
look up "social democrat" on wikipedia.
that's what you are
that's what Bernie is.
the fact that he keeps misusing that term and nobody has even bothered to check that shit just shows how fucking ignorant you are.
>>673139986
>democratic socialism
>social democracy
lel.
>>673139655
Democratic socialism is what I was referring to there. Learn2context.
>>673139802
>top economists
>210 no-name economists out of 22,000 economists in the United States alone
Try harder, shill
>>673139058
Remind me how many jobs we created by cutting taxes under GWB, again?
>>673139724
My point was that they even pay their students to go to college. Your point of loans being incentive is moot. Also, it can work on a big scale if we get our govt corruption under control
>>673139306
You don't have to go? That's really the argument? Who the fuck wouldn't go for 4 more years of fucking around and not having to pay for it? People are looking out for themselves by nature and the chance to get extra time to have 0 responsibilities for 4 years is something they would jump on. I would. I went to college, 2 years after high school but I weighed the financial risks of it. If I could have gone for free right out the gate I would have. As would anyone. So don't give me this "You don't have to go" shit.
>>673139502
france.
>>673140202
"Social democracy or Democratic socialism madeFrance,Sweden,Norwaytogether with many other western and centralEuropeannationsgreat places." lel
>>673139879
>calls me delusional
>implies there's a huge conspiracy to get people to go to uni to get shitty degrees
>>673140263
>Democratic socialism
>a socialist economic system, involving a combination of political democracy with social ownership of the means of production.
>social ownership of the means of production.
There is no difference, retard. Form of gov't != an economic system
>>673140064
"Social democracy or Democratic socialism madeFrance,Sweden,Norwaytogether with many other western and centralEuropeannationsgreat places."
Try again.
>>673139879
yeah. aka liberal arts degrees. aka liberals are dumb as fuck.
Get a real degree like an engineer or computer programmer.
>>673139956
Congratulations, whats your point? Whether or not you are ok with being stolen from, wouldnt you rather see it go to helping a majority of struggling americans instead of reinforcing the minority of rich amreicans?
>>673140263
bernie's really more of a social democrat than a democratic socialist. it's lower on the socialism scale
>>673140322
>get our govt corruption under control
>by more government officials.....
This work is getting smaller for the less educated. Please explain where you will work as complanies start to automate the service industry.
>>673139986
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/051415/can-socialism-work-america.asp
>>673140700
how the fuck do you not understand they mean two different things.
just because some fuck doesn't realize that words mean something doesn't make it so.
>>673140788
differnt 1s nt fnded by big bisnis
hey everyone check out my new rap song i made. i support bernie sander because lets face it im not a retarded faggot. god bless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIroAUbjKmM
>>673140310
>implying I'm republican
>implying the government creates jobs
Time to retake High School economics, kiddo
>>673139986
http://www.paoracle.com/SocialismWORKS!/?sw=Sweden
>>673140788
Where did i say more govt officials? Make more laws forcing tax loopholes closed. We have law makers already
>>673140446
How many people wouldnt go to high school if they didnt have to? Im sure most of americas youth wouldnt have
>>673140645
>>673140781
>>673140941
There are many successful Social Democrat or (democraticSocialist) countries which suggests thoseConservativeswho oppose social democracy and democratic socialism are wrong.Swedenis a Social Democrat/democratic socialist country which hasuniversal health care, and helps homeless people[1]instead of treating them as worthless. All this suggests to compassionate people democratic socialism is the answer.
Democratic socialism can meanSocial democracyas in Sweden,Denmarkand otherScandinaviancountries and that works, Denmark is thehappiest country in the worldwhile Sweden,NorwayandFinlandare among the happiest. Democratic socialism can also meanCommand economieswhich don’t work.
Using double speak to argue word meaning still doesn't detract from the fact that most Nordic countries practice these similar ideals. And it works. Well. You still haven't proven me wrong. It can work here as well. We implemented numerous of these ideas during "The New Deal." We can do similar again. Prove me wrong.
>>673141190
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roseng%C3%A5rd
socialism wörks!
give hand outs to the needy!
They'll be more respectful!
>>673141198
sorry
>assuming
but regardless, I think the solution is to limit the amount of control that is centralized so people don't have as much power to be corrupt with.
at the very least decentralize it
>>673140264
>there have to be a certain number of them or they're not top economists
>I haven't seen them on Fox News so they obviously don't know what they're talking about
>Half of the politicians I support believe in supply side economics decades after the last credible economist did, but I am economically literate and hundreds of PhD academics aren't
I wish is was surprising that you are completely delusional.
>>673139802
>>673141555
>Le FDR New Deal meme
You should really research The Great Depression before you repost trash from Reddit
>http://www.mackinac.org/archives/1998/sp1998-01.pdf
>https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Americas%20Great%20Depression_3.pdf
>>673140519
I was born there. Sure was great...
>>673141743
i thought it was transparency, oversight, regulation, and most importantly, severe legal consequences for the wealthy and well connected destroying thousands or millions of lives
>>673141555
nice trips
the problem with them is the scale
we don't have enough doctors or teachers to handle the influx of people who will be using both services
this will severely tax the systems and meanwhile the major oversight that is going to be required is only going to increase the cost
of course, this will be paid for by taxes, but this will necessarily expand the government, creating even less people to be available to fill the doctor and professor positions.
we literally do not have the manpower to do this.
>>673141920
So you are arguing that the new deal wasn't a huge part in rebuilding the economy and that it wasn't slightly socialist in it's influences?
>>673136284
The reason my generation can't get a job is because they have no useful skills or degrees and are so entitled, they don't know how to work for something other than bitch because it wasn't handed to them. It's bad enough I'd find it safe to say they don't know how to write a resume, or have anything to put on it. Bernie Sanders feeds their idea that they can just be handed something for free.
>>673141743
First off, thanks for giving an idea to discuss instead of trying to insult like everyone else. I could see that being a solution, but in this presidential race, i find bernie is the best. No hes not perfect, but i genuinely believe he wants to un-fuck our country unlike most other canidates
>>673140757
The American Dream is work hard and you will prosper. Why can't anyone do this without the government holding your hand the entire time? I did it, and I'm not that smart. Come on guys.
Yes I want to help people. But I want to do it on my account.
>>673141421
The argument is higher education. Not basics to survive as a well educated person. We're talking a field you chose to go into. You weigh the risks of your decision. Hmmm... is my theater degree worth what I'm paying for it. Will gaining this knowledge help me with what I want to achieve. You don't get that shit for free when from out of high school you can find a job that you can support yourself with.
>>673142277
I think his heart's in the right place
I just don't see him getting anything accomplished
Also, I fundamentally disagree with the direction he wants to take America
>>673142195
There is always an adjustment period. There are for profit colleges churning out Healthcare industry professionals now. Numerous more would open up as would for most service industries. There are always people willing to work.
>>673141421
Also, that's not an answer to the "you don't have to go"
>>673141555
Except Sweden is going to be a third world country within a decade and if you really think that you'd be more happy in Denmark, you're more than welcome to go there and stand in line with every other Hajji waiting for your freebies.
> People should make a living wage.
> People in the Sixties made the 2016 equivalent of $10 on minimum wage.
> Minimum wage is not set proportionate to inflation.
> Raising minimum wage causes more inflation.
> DO SOMETHING ABOUT INFLATION.
/thread
/subject
/discourse
>>673142706
Have you been there or is this all rhetoric from online "research?"
>>673142095
right, and I think those are necessary, but when the government tries to do shit it doesn't have to, that's where I draw the line.
I think the government should always be bigger than businesses (or combinations of them) so that it can adequately control them
>>673141751
>cherry-picking information
>"210 arbitrary economists support Sanders so he must be right!"
>"Anyone who disagrees is a Fox News pundit!"
Go to bed, kid
>>673142823
http://ww.rrojasdatabank.info/HDRP_2010_40.pdf
>>673142428
I just want the rich to pay their fair share and to close the loopholes that keep them safe from paying taxes. Americas roads and infrastructure is crumbling, we could use the money to pay for that. I dont necessarily want to gove stuff away fkr free, but thats what it is like now. The money they take just goes to the top 1%. Id rather it help someone who could use it rather than the super rich. But not giving things away would be even better
>>673137106
You expect me to read this shit?
>>673142681
right, but that's assuming the incentive for being a doctor remains the same
if doctors pays get cut because they now have to share wages with government officials overseeing the operation (and you know they'll want big bucks for that) there's going to be less of an incentive to be a doctor and less people would go down that path
>>673136284
People who say Sanders is economically inviable are don't realize how badly their gov't fucks them.
>>673143082
That's a lot of pdf and no reference point or point presented by you at all but thanks....
>>673142823
Why the fuck would I want to go there? I'm not the Marxist, YOU ARE.
Google "Sweden third world". Or "Sweden rape capitol". Sounds like fucking paradise. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, Trotsky.
>>673136284
not like trump supporters are any better
or anyone on this planet.
>duh but there are good people
only in retaliation to bad
>>673143238
the money they take does NOT go to the 1%
whoever told you that is lying
>>673143423
And what does the discretionary part look like?
>>673143376
You're presenting a strawman. I never once said wages would decrease. You did. If demand increases, wages would actually go up at first....
>>673137106
Did you just fucking cite a copypasta
>>673143238
You do realize that almost all taxes you pay are given back to you if you are in the middle class or lower? Or have you never done your own taxes before?
>>673143593
demand increasing leading to wages increasing only works in a free market
>>673143569
So fuck you OP. Go ahead and vote the candidates who will dump your tax dollars into private defense contractor pockets rather than into your and your children's future. Seems like you enjoy being treated like livestock.
>>673142473
But why should someone that wants to be a doctor have to be burdened with so much debt they are paying student loans till their 50s? Also, i want to be a cook. I could do that without college. I am going to college to better myself, but only because i got scholarships from being good in school. But not everyone has the level of intelligence i have. I dont want for someone to not be able to follow their dream of say going into theatrical arts just because they dont have money and isnt good at math or science.
>>673143238
>The money they take just goes to the top 1%
Have you ever looked at the budget? The majority of money goes into various welfare programs. Do you realize that if you own a computer to post on 4chan and have had a meal in the last 24 hours YOU are the "1%". Why not give your "fair share" to some third world primitive who has nothing? Go ahead and give away everything you have, or get a job and donate half your check to some bush nigger in Uganda, until you do you're a fucking hypocrite.
>>673143539
I've got to agree. I wasn't originally going to vote because every candidate was shit, but I was sure Trump and Clinton had no chance. Now, I'm hoping Bernie gets the nomination just so those other 2 don't.
>>673142573
If i may, who is your canidate of choice?
>>673143478
How can you comment on somewhere you've never been? That's why. Do you talk to people from those places daily to confirm that's how living there is? Didn't think so.
Why would I Google that when it's obviously going to yield results that are biased towards overreactionism and sensatiomalism? Clearly any results found from searching those queries would bring up OPINION pieces at best.
I never once claimed to be Marxist, Captain strawman. Thanks for attempting to debate though!
>>673144170
Trump
>>673144023
No, fuck you, look at the fucking numbers from last year >>673143569, you fucking robot.
>>673136284
Usually when given the choice of doing something or nothing, I choose to do nothing. But I will do something if it helps someone else do nothing. I'd work all night, if it meant nothing got done.
>You
ITT: edgelords of the galaxy
>>673142216
Have you researched history at all?
Legislation under The New Deal:
>National Industrial Recovery Act
>Allowed business tycoons to seek higher prices and barriers to competition via cartelized business, higher prices, less work, and steep labor costs.
>National Recovery Administration
>forced businesses to display an emblem and abide by arbitrary code which, again, discouraged competition, raised prices, and supported the business tycoons
>>673142700
The answer is a lot of people wouldnt go to high school unless they had to, so the same would be true for college
>>673143569
After being in the military, I see where all that money goes. And it needs to be cut and reallocated to the Veterans benefits, or the SMs pay, not other bullshit that our wasteful military uses.
>>673143921
Exactly. As it would here. In this market.
>>673144274
oh, I missed the part where they gave money to the 1% on that chart
thanks anon
>>673143238
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roseng%C3%A5rd
You are right about not giving free stuff away. That is never the answer.
I live in North Carolina. We have one of the highest gas taxes in the nation. But, it goes directly into our roads and transportation system. Therefore we have some of the best roads in the nation. South Carolina on the other hand has some of the shittiest roads out there. But their gas prices average $0.30 less per gallon than North Carolina.
My point is, if SC wants to get better roads, they should raise their gas tax. Instead, they will wait for the Federal Government to bail them out and fix their roads. Such idiots. It's not fair. Why can't I be dumb and live in South Carolina? Then I would get all the "free" government shit.
The primary reason why the individual citizens of a country create a political structure is a subconscious wish or desire to perpetuate their own dependency relationship of childhood. Simply put, they want a human god to eliminate all risk from their life, pat them on the head, kiss their bruises, put a chicken on every dinner table, clothe their bodies, tuck them into bed at night, and tell them that everything will be alright when they wake up in the morning.
This public demand is incredible, so the human god, the politician, meets incredibility with incredibility by promising the world and delivering nothing. So who is the bigger liar? the public? or the "godfather"?
This public behavior is surrender born of fear, laziness, and expediency. It is the basis of the welfare state as a strategic weapon, useful against a disgusting public.
----Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars
>>673144311
Those are two parts of it. You're cherry picking. Do you know history?
>>673143569
>seriously implying the military isn't the largest holder of jobs for our entire country.
it's like you've never even done research before.
between the actual military service members, the Gcivilians, the service workers, the countless general workers that make products.
It's going to be the same shit that happened last time the military lost its budget, we had almost a quarter of the country lose their job or have their corporation effected by the military cutback.
You realize that everything in the military was made by a civilian right?
Bernie claiming he is going to make jobs pop up out of nowhere, by destroying jobs?
Right...
>>673144467
Hint: it's the big fucking wedge labeled military.
>>673144000
They shouldn't be in debt that long, but that doesn't mean college should be free. We need to regulate the amount it costs to go to school and the interest on student loans, not make college free. That takes a lot of the competition and worth out of schooling.
>>673144454
mmmmmmmmmmm
no?
do you understand what socialized healthcare means?
>>673144242
Please kill yourself.
Who cares if he is going to give the government MORE power and MORE money!!!! Freee weeeeeedddd! -- every single bernie supporter
>>673143541
No it doesnt go directly to them. But it goes to paying for their corperate bailouts even though they have the money to save it themselves. Its going to paying them tax breaks because they hide money offshores. It goes to them becauae we pay subsidies for thier employees because they cant live on the low wages the ceo decides to pay them. So no our taxes dont go to the 1%, but it enables them to keep more money
>>673144274
The military spending is less than a quarter of the overall budget.
Go ahead and share that comfy room at Mom's house with some illegal wetback who has nothing, go on, Trotsky, put your money where your mouth is.
>>673144023
amen brother. poor fags in america think they know what poor is.
>>673136284
Daily reminder that the influx of Bernie hate is from Hillary shills to push people who are going to vote democrat anyway towards Hillary since they found out they can't lower Trump support.
>>673144622
>riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
none of that goes to paying any soldiers
or equipment costs
or research
>>673144311
I cited two complete articles, I'm not going to read off every aspect for you.
And again, since you won't provide a real refutation, do some research before you post trash from Reddit.
>>673136284
double cost to hire someone?!
OH NOOOO! THE HORROR!
fucking kill yourself you fucking retarded piece of neokon asswhipe, maybe you'll get to lick the reagans in white people heaven and play golf and shit
The biggest mistake Bernie makes is drawing comparisons between himself and Scandinavia when he is far more similar to the Christian Democrats of Germany (fiscally, not socially). They are the leading party in Germany and have made Germany the largest economy in Europe.
>>673144388
>other bullshit that our wasteful military uses.
Scrubbed out of some do-nothing job in the military and thinks he can run the whole thing better and more efficiently than the generals.
Keep voting for Sanders, that's your only hope of ever earning over 10$ an hour is by government fiat or inflation.
>>673144603
Dude we need to compete with the world. Our kids are fucking dumb. Our debt is soaring. All we do is consume instead of make quality things.
>>673136861
You'll also still be expected to qualify
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDLqYvcXQjU
>>673136284
fucking democrat cuckolds keep bringing up euro trash. lets not forget, Europe spends like 5-10% of taxes on military budget the rest goes to those free school and free doctors.
They are able to spend that little, because we spend over 55% of taxes on our military budget to protect pretty much every one else.
I always wondered could we actually subsidize college and healthcare if we dropped military spending by 15%?
>>673144603
This.
They've already started on cutbacks. The Army had ~450k soldiers, and was told 100k needed to go for whatever reason. I saw a lot of good leaders and soldiers get cut for one reason or another, some good, some bad. It's already started, and just wait. Somebody WILL attack while our military is smaller, because it can NOT function that small. It barely functions as is.
>>673145024
Do you understand how economics works?
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_demand
Please don't vote.
>>673136284
agreed.
>>673144706
A) this entire argument is still based on your "what if' strawman." What if wages were cut and there was less incentive.. " By that logic what if they increased ten fold because everything was streamlined? See, I can do it to
B) still a strawman argument you're presenting. I bet you go into slippery slope next...
>>673144804
It's 2/3 of the discretionary if you count VA shit too. And that doesn't cover the huge portion in the non-discretionary.
>>673144603
>seriously implying the military isn't the largest holder of jobs for our entire country.
Might as well be investing in infrastructure, because our country actually needs it. Think back to the Great Depression and New Deal era kiddo.
So we all hate Bernie. Who's the candidate we support? Psycho Trump? Madman Cruz? Dipshit Hillary?
>>673145544
Where have you been
Obviously trump
>>673143541
>the money doesn't go to the 1%
Um, yes it does.
If you give people more money by taxing the 1% and redistributing it elsewhere, that means people will by more useless shit that the 1% own via corporations.
So the corporation makes a profit off selling x product, therefore the 1% is that much richer.
Sanders plan only works if Murica stops buying the useless bullshit they usually buy.
Especially when it comes to items that have a history of being made in other countries (making that countries 1% richer, which is even worst than making our 1% richer.)
This is how capitalism works Anon, even countries that claim socialism/communism still have capitalism as long as they are trading with other countries. Because a global worth is made for a product.
>>673144709
Trump is the only viable candidate
Bernie does not know what the shit he's talking about
>>673145024
>double cost to hire someone?!
How many people do you employ? How would your particular business cope with doubling the cost of labor?
>>673139616
>Move to Europe then
>>673143569
Try again, shill.
Discretionary spending is optional and minuscule compared to the actual budget.
>>673144952
no, we hate him because he is a self proclaimed "democratic socializer"
>>673145127
Here you go. Numerous parts to the new deal besides what you picked out.
Many historians distinguish between a "First New Deal" (1933–34) and a "Second New Deal" (1935–38), with the second one more liberal and more controversial. The "First New Deal" (1933–34) dealt with the pressing banking crises through theEmergency Banking Actand the1933 Banking Act. TheFederal Emergency Relief Administrationprovided $500million for relief operations by states and cities, while the short-lived CWA (Civil Works Administration) gave localities money to operatemake-workprojects in 1933–34.[5]TheSecurities Act of 1933was enacted to prevent a repeated stock market crash. The controversial work of theNational Recovery Administrationwas also part of the First New Deal.
The "Second New Deal" in 1935–38 included theWagner Actto promote labor unions, theWorks Progress Administration(WPA) relief program (which made the federal government by far the largest single employer in the nation),[6]theSocial Security Act, and new programs to aid tenant farmers and migrant workers. The final major items of New Deal legislation were the creation of theUnited States Housing AuthorityandFarm Security Administration, both in 1937, and theFair Labor Standards Act of 1938, which set maximum hours and minimum wages for most categories of workers.[7]
Care to insult me again?
>>673142428
Because working hard is not enough anymore
>>673145005
Here you go. Numerous parts of the New Deal.
Many historians distinguish between a "First New Deal" (1933–34) and a "Second New Deal" (1935–38), with the second one more liberal and more controversial. The "First New Deal" (1933–34) dealt with the pressing banking crises through theEmergency Banking Actand the1933 Banking Act. TheFederal Emergency Relief Administrationprovided $500million for relief operations by states and cities, while the short-lived CWA (Civil Works Administration) gave localities money to operatemake-workprojects in 1933–34.[5]TheSecurities Act of 1933was enacted to prevent a repeated stock market crash. The controversial work of theNational Recovery Administrationwas also part of the First New Deal.
The "Second New Deal" in 1935–38 included theWagner Actto promote labor unions, theWorks Progress Administration(WPA) relief program (which made the federal government by far the largest single employer in the nation),[6]theSocial Security Act, and new programs to aid tenant farmers and migrant workers. The final major items of New Deal legislation were the creation of theUnited States Housing AuthorityandFarm Security Administration, both in 1937, and theFair Labor Standards Act of 1938, which set maximum hours and minimum wages for most categories of workers.[7]
>>673139065
What is it exactly that "Wall street" is doing that's evil? Investing in businesses?
>>673145702
that nig nog doesn't own a business
>>673144000
You'd have to be a pretty shitty doctor to still be paying student loans into your 50s. Even if you had no funds before starting
>>673144783
no, what enables them to keep more money is developing wealth over time
if your ancestors start out with 100k in 1900 and your family takes care of it until now
you're going to be fucking rich.
end of story.
it's you who's the greedy fuck who wants to take people's money because you think it's your right to demand all people have the same amount of money
well fuck you, there's always going to be inequality as long as we keep creating incentives for things that benefit society as a whole.
the minute we stop doing this is the minute we stop advancing.
>>673142706
Their problems stem from overly lax immigration policies, not their other social policies
>>673146034
The near global economic crash of 2008? Too big to fail? Are you even trying?
>>673145134
>make quality things.
making things is what got us into this mess in the first place.
We need to make less and learn to be more self providing.
This is the only way for the corporations to lose.
However this is a fallacy as I can not plausibly see a way for an entire country to stop using something like fast food or healthcare.
It would be impossible.
So this whole conversation is bogus anyways.
Nothing Sanders will do, will ever effect the general population in a good way.
Because we are all people of greatly different taste and ideas of what makes us happy.
The majority of Murica likes to buy useless shit.
The majority of Murica are hedonistic.
As long as it stays that way, nothing at all will change.
and that is for sure not something that Bernie can change.
>>673136284
>>673145524
>And that doesn't cover the huge portion in the non-discretionary.
What precise portion is that? I'm going to make a Vegas sized gamble here and bet that if it proved your line of malarkey you would have posted a clever Bernie.com watermarked pie chart.
>>673145664
>Sanders plan only works if Murica stops buying the useless bullshit they usually buy.
So you're saying tax away everybody's discretionary income so they can't buy things from those big bad corporations. That just might work. That'll teach those meanie corporations.
>>673145782
I wouldn't call the discrecianry part, a quarter of the budget, minuscule.
Neither would I call the nearly half of the bidget spent on military-industrial complex shit miniscule.
You sorry fuck, you have no idea how much this country could be transformed if we reinvested in ourselves.
>>673145958
it worked for Dr. Ben Carson. He grew up poor as fuck to a single mother who worked 2 jobs just to make ends meet. And he was a nigger to top it all off. You probably think he played the race card and someone handed him his neuroscience degree.
>>673143376
Are you saying the only reason people become docotors is for the money? What a shit society we have.
>>673140322
>Get government corruption under control
>Wants stronger government
>>673146584
Welcome to real life anon
Turn off your computer sometimes
>>673145814
I'm not questioning why people legitimately hate him, I'm there with you, but people who aren't going to vote republican anyway shouldn't be swayed by paid Hillary shills making threads like these. I'd rather have Bernie than something that isn't even human.
>>673146584
no, but it certainly helps
>>673145822
>Emergency Banking Act
>National Recovery Administration
>Social Security Act
>good
This is bait, right?
Stop copy-pasting and do a little research kiddo
>>673146440
We'd be like Europe and failing. Interesting fact: our government has only a few things it's supposed to do: regulate trade between the states, enact treaties on behalf of the states, provide for the common defense (military) of the states, ensure the value of a common currency. Seems simple, right?
>>673145822
Yes, kill yourself
>There are people on this bored basing their vote of memes
Ayy lmao
>>673146384
haha. "all lives matter"
>>673143376
>less people
"fewer"
If you don't understand the language you grew up speaking, how can anyone believe you understand more complex ideas?
>>673146799
You really think those things are bad? How old are you?
>>673146781
>Theft is okay because you're wealthy enough
Bernie-cucks in full damage control
>>673145394
what the fuck was your argument to begin with?
>other countries can do it why can't we?
I tell you a reason why I can't see it working
>you never attacked my argument
>>673146044
Of course he doesn't. That's the point. All these high school kids and muds who are unemployable waiting on the government to take care of them couldn't even manage a hot dog stand and are convinced that they'd have everything straightened out of they were in charge of the military, Honeywell, or GE.
>>673136284
prove it faggot
Post why sanders policies won't work
and show your work
go
>>673146799
I'll even bite. You don't even present why those are bad things. Go ahead. I'll wait...
>>673146584
haha this guy
>>673146132
Implying all the handouts isn't why all those mongs flood into those countries to begin with (well that and all the white women they can rape).
>>673147125
faggot
>>673145664
I never said I didn't agree with capitalism
I also don't see what's wrong with people making a profit off of investing in businesses
I think Sanders's plan is shit
Why are literally all of these anti-Bern memes so awful? Walls of text, shit-tier photoshop skillz, abysmal "artwork," not to mention being completely barren of wit. Step up your memeing, Trumpfags.
>>673146771
you are right. Bernie may be dumb, but i'd vote for a pile of rocks before i would vote for clinton
>>673146440
>investing in government
>investing in ourselves
pick one.
>>673146980
Your entire argument was that doctors would end up paid less somehow because there was an increase in demand for their labor. Before that your argument was that we couldn't handle the medical care load because there wouldn't be be enough doctors. I addressed both of those. Go back and read before you post.
Economic wages are suppressed below productivity due to competition. Due to this you can raise the minimum wage and not have it lead to higher unemployment. Obviously there are limits to this, which potentially Bernie would be pushing. Studies have shown no rise in unemployment in localities which have raised the minimum wage in the USA thus far.
http://murray.seattle.gov/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/UC-Berkeley-IIAC-Report-3-20-2014.pdf
>>673144280
Ron is a Libertarian, he only chooses to do nothing in an attempt to fight the Government from within the belly of the beast.
>>673146781
"The rich" are greedy, but you are NOT greedy by demanding to confiscate what they have earned.
You fuckers are downright sociopaths.
>>673146385
See
>>673145782 => $65.3b + $598.5b
>>673143569 => $165.8b + $634.2b
= $1463.8
$1.5t/$4.1t = 0.37
These are numbers, not feelings or platitudes.
So between a third and a half. As a side note we spend more than the rest of the world several times over on our military. Keep in mind this graph doesn't include the VA or discretionary parts, so it's only that much worse.
There is no reason this money isn't going directly back into the country. And if people say that it does because we employ our own, think again, because most of that money gravitates to the revolving door folk that make monkeys out of you all.
>So you're saying tax away everybody's discretionary income\
Makes a hell of a lot more sense than taxing food and other basic necessities.
>>673146781
then let me pick who I help out. are you even trying anymore?
>>673145664
>that means people will by more useless shit
And that is precisely why it will help the economy. More spending in a capitalist system means, more hands get greased. While 100 percent of that tax money is getting pulled from the 1%, not 100% is getting put back. You have to account for distributors, local merchants, and then of course, the sales tax on the actual item, and cost of production for said item.
That is -precisely- what helps an ecomony grow in a capitalist society.
>>673146926
HAHAHAHAAH
>Emergency Banking Act
>Section 401. To allow Federal Reserve banks to convert any US debt obligation (such as a bond) into cash at par value and any check, draft, banker acceptance, etc, into cash at 90% of its apparent value. Federal Reserve Banks are authorized to purchase government bonds either in the open market or directly from the Treasury.
>National Recovery Administration
Self explanatory
>Social Security Act
To this day one of the most inefficient and failed policies in US history. A regressive tax on all wages that burdens young tax-payers. It was basically sold as an insurance scam.
Typical Bernie cucks blidnly posting things without doing research
>>673147226
What a well thought out and articulate argument. I have no rebuttal for that, I'll start voting for Sanders right away.... you have convinced me of your position.
>>673146504
For the majority it is not enough. Please give me more .01 in 1,000,000 examples.
>>673136284
Daily reminder that you're a fucking retard.
Learn to read, fucktard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model
>>673147578
I know man. It's scary to think they walk among us.
>>673136284
Nothings gonna get fixed until the Federal Reserve is abolished you fucking idiot.
Fuck all you faggots, Bernie would be the best thing to happen to this country since FDR. Wake the fuck up.
>>673146781
now do this hundreds of thousands of times for the 300,000,000+ americans
>>673147789
sure that will solve everything
and you bitches still complain about tax
>>673146850
I plan to vote in memes.
>>673147794
No shit, they've got that asshole hook-line-and-sinker.
>>673145714
already there
feelsgoodman.jpg
on a sidenote: how important is the president for politics anyways?
does he have a purely representative function or does he actually make important decisions?
I mean all other jokes aside you murricans are not complete idiots like this person here wants to make us believe, right?
so it this whole mr. president thing more than panem et circenses?
>>673136284
A daily reminder that the unique poster ratio is 4:1.
Get a life, retard. You're the manchild here.
>>673146914
because our brains are modular you fucking halfwit
this is why some people can be really fucking good at computing large numbers
and also be completely incompetent in social situations
>>673147794
Earned lol. These people evade taxes and in many cases get millions of dollars in refunds back from the gov. And if they really fuck up get bailed out by tax dollars.
>>673147737
It pulled us out of the depression. Plus the original argument was that the new deal had socialist influence which it did by turning the government into one of the country's largest employers. Not to mention it set up the entire system that we use today. Either way, I still proved that the new deal had socialism in its origin. Call me a cuck all you want, the fact that you result to insulting my character shows a weak argument on your behalf.
>>673136284
Dont really know about econ, but my bro has a masters in econ and he dont like bernie
>>673147975
Not a valid argument, retard. Please try again.
>>673147922
>Le FDR saved us from TGD meme
More retards reposting shit articles they see on Facebook
>http://www.mackinac.org/archives/1998/sp1998-01.pdf
>https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Americas%20Great%20Depression_3.pdf
>https://mises.org/library/how-fdr-made-depression-worse
>>673140352
u and everyone here is so dumb despite a few people. Things like that work u dumbcunts. im from germany and u can change ur fucking university subject 30 times without paying a single cent- we dont pay extra for doctors and we cant be fired because of dumb bullshit.
The problem is that u and ur dumb friends voted 2 times for bush and then cry because obama cant fix that much of a pile of bullshit in jut 4 years. You and the rest doesnt understand anything. go vote trump u fucks and watch how much a xenophobic radical Millionaire cares about the problems of the middle class man.
Dumb Cunts
>>673145958
>Because working hard is not enough anymore
Says the guy jerking off the tranny threads on 4chan and waiting for the government to take care of him.
Sure thing, bucko. You've really tried the whole hard work thing haven't you?
Unemployment isn't a single variable problem OP and raising the minimum wage is both theoretically and demonstrably a good thing.
hth
>>673146781
But that's too much reading for the stupids, so they'll just continue to believe the first thing
>>673137629
>not adjusting for inflation
>>673146584
The ones helping in Africa for no compensation, sure as fuck didn't.
Mean while the ones back at home making over 200k a year and receiving government money in developing new procedures and medicines sure as fuck did. Of course they love to hear they helped some one, they are a human from a first world country. But even if every one hated their guts, they would still keep plugging along making dat doe.
I actually have had 3 shoulder surgeries, first two were covered by insurance through hack job doctors, that literally didn't know what they were doing. Parents finally had enough of it and literally googled the most paid doctor in my state that did shoulder surgery. 16 grand later, and 8 years later I haven't had a single shoulder dislocation from what used to be a 5 times a day. the last doctor also did it lathroscopicly and didn't understand why the first two doctors did open surgery which have left me with nasty scars on both sides of my shoulder. (fyi this guy makes over 450k a year and more then half of it comes from government grants)
Ever since then, I have been very fucking leery of doctors who don't get paid well.
>>673136284
Honestly this term it's the worst I've ever fucking seen on both sides. That said, I don't care who the figurehead is, congress and the like wont' let certain actions be taken. Even executive orders can be talked down and changed later. So I'm voting republican for the first time in four terms. Not really because I like them either, just because it'll be hilarious to see all the buttblasted hillary and bernie sjws out there cry for four years. That's all I want anymore. The rest is irrelevant, two party system is a joke, and people just "have" to be right. So let's just offend more people /b/. Like the good ole days.
>>673146954
You should read The Jungle some time to give you a brief refresher on (just some) of the problems with laissez faire capitalism. Not to say capitalism itself is a bad system, it's just there needs to be some level of regulation in place to prevent complete exploitation of human beings and the environment.
>>673148465
>raise minimum wage
>adjust for inflation
>raise minimum wage
>adjust for inflation
>raise minimum wage
>adjust for inflation
how2economics
>>673147794
Richfag detected. Or you're a sheep.
Good thing you kids are too young/too lazy/too anti social to vote. The general population looks down upon you as the niggers of the white race, 4chan users.
>>673147578
I like how you think the rich should keep everything they've "earned", but the working class should be left with a smaller % of what they've earned after tax
>>673148511
idk if insane or my hero. But somehow i understand
>>673136284
economics is not a science, faggot. There is no right or wrong way to run an economy. It just needs to run efficiently and distribute resources evenly. People should be working 15 or 20 hour work weeks with so many jobs taken over by computers and automation but instead most people work some service based job that doesn't serve much of a real purpose but perpetuating the inhuman materialism that our fucked up society feeds on. Everyone deserves a free education and free healthcare. Europe figured this out decades ago.
>>673143022
>hates cherrypicking
>cherrypicks
SHIGGY
>>673148591
The problem is that minimum wage hasn't kept pace with the cost of living and inflation for the past 15+ years.
>>673148335
>im from germany
Enjoy Sharia law you cuckold.
This isn't the Reich, you fucking simpleton where the president is some form of dictator, the president has virtually no power without the consent of Congress and can't spend a penny that they do not authorize.
The legislative branch has the lion's share of power in the form of government outlined in the US Constitution. The notion that one president "ruined" things and that the next will "fix" them is nigger tier understanding of government.
>>673147387
Nigga can't even afford free stickers. How is he gonna pay for "muh handouts"
>>673148764
>deserves
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>673148498
So the doctors who do it for the money are shitty, and the doctors who do because it is their passion get paid more. That makes more sense. We really need to weed out the bs doctors though. They are fucking our system.
>>673148585
>The Jungle
A child's view of how the free market works. Capitalism runs on voluntary exchange and trade. It's the reason you're able to post on a Chinese image board via a computer
What you're referring to is pre-capitalistic feudal socities.
>>673136456
I don't think raising the minimum wage is something he is actually interested in pursuing, just something he has to say to remain on level ground with the other democratic candidate.
>>673148105
Yeah, we call them "autistic"
>>673147451
government knows what i need. they are the bestest
>>673148294
I bet you love some Hillary don't you? Or better yet, some Rubio.
>>673147460
they are not going to be paid more because their labor no longer is part of the free market, it is socialized.
therefore the law of supply and demand NO LONGER APPLIES
therefore the increase in demand does not necessarily mean an increase in wages.
as is the case with most socialized programs, the wages are going to most likely go to shit
how's that teacher's salary doing?
we have a huge demand for good teachers and no fucking incentive to pay them more
>>673149045
all hail the great leader?
>>673148960
I think instead of raising minimum wage he should lower and put a cap on realistate, food and utilities.
>>673148779
Says who? Standards of living have increased dramatically over the last few decades.
Cost of living also completely varies between each location in the United States, and to assume that some flat arbitrary number will work for everyone is childish.
Only the market determines wages
>>673149045
Government is a representation of the people. So yes.
>>673148888
if bernie accepts funds from big corporations
>HE'S A PUPPET OF THE CORPORATES
if bernie doesnt accept funds
>HE'S TOO FUCKING BROKE TO BE PRESIDENT
>>673148888
quads = truth
>>673149158
Show me one first world country where medical care providers wages went down after regulation of this industry.
>>673140446
You'd still have to pay for food and living dumbass, this would require you to get a job, and if you have a job why go to college and waste your free time?
... this fucking logic man.
>>673149045
Better them than all these corrupt and greedy corporations that make their money off the blood, sweat, and tears of the poor.
>>673148948
> A child's view of how the free market works.
Oh, I didn't realize shit like Foxconn was so old. It may not be in our country, but we sure as hell make slaves out of people all over the world.
>>673149370
ever heard of monarchies, anon?
>>673148728
When did I say that ANYBODY should have their income taxed? An income tax on anybody at any level is tantamount to slavery and I abhor it.
>>673148624
>Richfag detected.
Hate to break it to you, but if you're unemployable now, Bernie raising the minimum wage and giving you more foodstamps isn't going to be your ticket to the good life.
>>673147578
>>673147794
They haven't "earned" a damn thing. They're the ones doing all the stealing in the first place by pocketing the increased productivity of workers while allowing wages to stagnate. Reclamation of the wealth they've stolen by means of redistributive taxation is literally the only lawful remedy to this situation.
>>673149150
Bernie cuck unsurprisingly has no rebuttal
Please retake High School Econ before you post here again
>>673136284
Daily reminder everyone on /b/ is too including you too OP shut the fuck up with this politcal shit hillarys gonna win and you're gonna bitch and moan like the rest of america as we dive into more debt.
>>673146781
Even MORE accurate depiction of Socialism:
I have more signs than I could conceivably ever use or want. I'm being forced to give my whole neighborhood half my signs with is an unconstitutional act of robbery by the Federal Government. Now me and my other friends who have millions of signs are going to move to a different country to escape this bullshit, while everybody in my old neighborhood stops working because they get everything for free anyways- thus sending that neighborhood into a spiraling shit-hole.
>>673149504
Taxes are necessary to make a country run
>>673149021
yes.
>>673149843
We could do with out taxes, hell we could do with out the monetary system.
>>673149287
My standard of living is much greater than it was in 1985? In what way?
Our parents and grandparents ruined our economy with their selfishness and we will reap the rewards. Shit environment, shit infrastructure, and shit future prospects because they got their own and that's all that matters.
God I hope humanity ends this century. We are horrible creatures that can't think more than a quarter in advance.
>>673148863
>thinking sharia is anything but a joke for educated people here
>thinking merkel is a dictator and doesnt have to roll with fucking seehofer just so th fucking bavarians follow her
U yeah U are the best example of dumb shit i meant. U are like that racist people with pegida and shit who walk hand in hand with Nazis in the street and shout WE ARE THE PEOPLE
You´re not
You are just plain stupid
get educated or lost u dumb shit damn hows 8th grde going
>>673149610
Ok smart ass, why don't you answer the question straight up. Whose your nominee and why?
>>673148764
>Everyone deserves a free
If you were alone on an island who would give you all these things if you didn't go out and make the effort to get them yourself? If you couldn't steal these things from the fruits of my labor who would "owe" it to you?
Your communist "utopia" is a fairy tale and is contrary to morality and the laws of nature.
Your "free" stuff isn't freedom at all, but the rations of a slave. Hay and a barn for human shaped cattle. The height of your aspiration in life is to live the lifestyle of a plantation slave. Congrats, you have completely failed at life and it's never going to get any better for you regardless of who is selected president.
>>673147785
Read a fucking book dude. There are plenty of rags to riches stories of American people. Do you really want me to list them out? I will. Some of them are called "entrepreneurs". I know that is a big word for you. It means they are people who got off their asses (and /b), used their brains, and realized they don't want to be poor anymore. So they had to come up with a plan to not be poor. And the majority of the good ones invented something useful. Why don't you do that anon?
>>673148863
oh forgot that.
>thinking republicans and bush didnt screw up big time
Yeah
You are THAT stupid
go vote trump fucker.
Everyone in Germany would laugh their freaking asses of about you dumb amerishits
>>673137106
>Autist for citing source
or
>Genius at baiting with reddit source
>>673149403
http://everydaylife.globalpost.com/effects-socialized-medicine-doctors-salaries-35046.html
>literally all of them
>>673150181
That shit works for like 1% of people. In the end you have to screw someone to become rich. Nothing admirable about becoming rich.
I love how people think his plans are stupid. Rob the hard working and intelligent of their money while simultaneously increasing the cost of living. The increase in cost of living means poor minorities are more dependant on government hand outs and will vote for Bernie again in 4 years. Then anytime someone comes along and says "hey I'm going to help you make your own money so you don't need handouts then we can spend less, and tax less, as a government by removing the handouts" is called racist for trying to take things away from minorities even though they are trying to give them an actual opportunity to improve their lives rather than living in a lower class purgatory. Liberalism is new slavery hidden in a veil of equality and liberation.
>>673149381
another joke in america. You need to have tons of money just so you have the chance to get votes.
I mean. Wtf.
>>673149239
That amounts to almost the same thing, except your idea is way more complicated because all goods and services would have to be strictly regulated making it almost impossible to execute.
Raising the minimum wage is more straightforward and works within the "free-market" concept
>>673150032
if we keep being selfish and dont stop global warming it just might
an anon can dream
>>673150181
Ha, you still believe in that dangling carrot the "American Dream" (tm). You temporarily embarrassed millionaire, You'll make excellent cattle.
>>673149843
And the constitution provides many means of taxation but specifically prohibits non apportioned direct tax.
Though of course taxes are NOT necessary to run anything. If the government can print a bond and sell it to international Jew bankers for our federal reserve notes, why can they not print their own currency and cut out the Jew middleman?
Many governments have used a fiat currency, printed as needed, to pay expenses and facilitate commerce. In fact the Union used a "greenback" in the civil war years which was just such a currency, as was the "continental" used during the revolution.
But claiming that socialists don't understand economics is just a meme with no basis in fact.
>>673136284
daily reminder that you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>673150294
Lol. I'll concede you're right in this area. But may I just casually refer you to, according to your article, us doctors are some of the highest paid in the world. After reading this I'm sure you're proud to defend this.
Health Care as a Basic Right
People in the U.S. don't consider health care as a basic human right, as they do in Europe and most of the rest of the developed world. Most citizens of European countries believe that access to decent health care is a basic right, like the right to vote or the right to free speech, and express puzzlement at the fee-based and patchwork employer health care insurance system in the U.S. Many express disbelief when they learn that you must be completely indigent to qualify for the bare-bones Medicaid government insurance plan, and that millions of Americans don't have any health insurance.
>>673150486
But raising the minimum wage is easily worked around and would only be a temporary fix.
>>673139058
Kek
>>673149478
>living off mommy and daddy is not forbidden
>>673148624
I'm and electrical engineer making 70k per year. is that "rich" to you?
>>673150727
We'll see how Europe feels about that after you have million sick immigrants shittin in the streets.
>>673150486
>Raising the minimum wage is more straightforward and works within the "free-market" concept
No, it doesn't
There's loads of empirical data correlating minimum-wage and unemployment.
>http://www.economics.uci.edu/files/docs/workingpapers/2006-07/Neumark-08.pdf
>http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/44995-MinimumWage.pdf
>https://www.epionline.org/minimum-wage/minimum-wage-teen-unemployment/
>https://www.epionline.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/even_5-2011.pdf
You can't escape the Law of Demand
>>673150559
I implore you to be that way anon, because it's what we must strive for.
but it won't change the fact there are no stops on this runaway train called humanity. we'll keep doing short-sighted shit until we scorch the earth and are eating our neighbors for sustenance.
>>673150843
OP here. Fellow electrical engineer ;)
>>673150701
Pretty sure the union greenback was backed by the silver they took from literally everyone
Pretty sure that counts as taxes
>>673150045
Liberal debate 101. Call someone a "racist" and "Nazi" and you win.
Throw in a couple straw men for good measure.
When your country is reduced to a carbon copy of Africa you'll think of me, and you'll also know that Uncle Adolph may have had a couple good ideas after all.
>>673150727
yes, because things like being able to express yourself, being able to defend yourself, the government having boundaries, those are basic human rights.
what you are saying when you say "healthcare is a basic right" is that "this section of the population that works in the medical field MUST provide their resources to everyone else"
the former are things dealing with the individual
the latter, while it seems like it's defending a "right to health" requires that there are always these people providing their time, money, services.
that is why i do not believe healthcare is a "basic human right"
>>673149480
money brings greed. No matter who you give the money to, there will be greed. Even you have your price my precious snowflake. Don't even try to say you don't you moral fag
>>673136284
>>673150865
OK, Captain Overreactionism. You be sure to document all that fetid street feces. Also make sure you wallow in the discontent and excrement of "muh million emigrants." Also, I believe you're mixing hated of immigrants from Muslim countries and the street shitting practices of Indians(dotsnotfeathers).
>>673150738
Because inflation is a thing and always will be-
Rising minimum wage doesn't cause inflation, it's an appropriate reaction to inflation
>>673151037
mmmmmmmm
neighbor
>>673150219
>Everyone in Germany would laugh their freaking asses of about you dumb amerishits
Funny how Germany is all so worried about America, but 99.99% of American's go through an entire year without giving two shits about Germany.
Keep being jealous Europoors.
>>673151207
Are you also pro life, I assume?
I wish we could just focus on clean renewable energy.
>>673151162
w00t, birds of a feather
recognize this? my lab's a pretty cool place.
>>673151186
>uncle adi had good ideas
>not a nazi
>debating with me whether you`re stupid or not
>beeing this much of a retarded asshat
please write more its like free rtl tv for me. not that u would understand. just share ur shit.-
>>>>throw in straw men.
>THEIR POLITICAL LEADERS ARE SAING RACIST THINGS. About anyone whos not german and they want to shootrefugees.
go suck a dick dumbfuck
Someday u and ur people will see that they tributed Lifes for a fucking bad joke
>>673151517
nope, but what does that have to do with anything?
>>673150432
So redistributing wealth to make the poor feel more wealthy is admirable? I don't get where this is going?
>>673150432
>That shit works for like 1% of people.
Have you ever considered that you are not as smart, talented, frugal, or hard working as those people who "just got lucky" and became wealthy?
>>673136284
Bernie Sanders toll thread. Great so original
OP = FAGGOT
>>673151442
My original idea was to lower realistate, food and utility costs and capping them instead of raising minimum wage, it would be a more long term fix.
>>673150569
what do you believe in? Don't work hard and get paid? That is the vibe I am getting. And you better not respond with the word "fair" in it
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>>673151517
also, I'd like to say this has actually been a decent conversation.
cheers, anon.
