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What now, faggots?

ECONOMISTS AND FINANCIAL EXPERTS IN FAVOR OF SEN. SANDERS’
WALL ST. REFORMS
In our view, Sen. Bernie Sanders’ plan for comprehensive financial reform is critical
for avoiding another “too-big-to-fail” financial crisis. The Senator is correct that the
biggest banks must be broken up and that a new 21st Century Glass-Steagall Act,
separating investment from commercial banking, must be enacted.
Wall Street’s largest banks are now far bigger than they were before the crisis, and
they still have every incentive to take excessive risks. No major Wall Street
executive has been indicted for the fraudulent behavior that led up to the 2008
crash, and fines imposed on the banks have been only a fraction of the banks’
potential gains. In addition, the banks and their lobbyists have succeeded in
watering down the Dodd-Frank reform legislation, and the financial institutions that
pose the greatest risk to our economy have still not devised sufficient “living wills”
for winding down their operations in the event of another crisis.
Secretary Hillary Clinton’s more modest proposals do not go far enough. They call
for a bit more oversight and a few new charges on shadow banking activity, but they
leave intact the titanic financial conglomerates that practice most shadow banking.
As a result, her plan does not adequately reduce the serious risks our financial
system poses to the American economy and to individual Americans. Given the size
and political power of Wall Street, her proposals would only invite more dilution
and finagle.
The only way to contain Wall Street’s excesses is with reforms sufficiently bold and
public they can’t be watered down. That’s why we support Senator Sanders’s plans
for busting up the biggest banks and resurrecting a modernized version of GlassSteagall.
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>>672688791
Signers (Institutional listing for identification purposes only):
1. Robert Reich, University of California Berkeley
2. Robert Hockett, Cornell University
3. James K. Galbraith, University of Texas
4. Dean Baker, Center for Economic and Policy Research
5. Christine Desan, Harvard Law School
6. Jeff Connaughton, Former Chief of Staff, Senator Ted Kaufman
7. William Darity Jr., Duke University
8. Eileen Appelbaum, Center for Economic and Policy Research
9. Brad Miller, Former U.S. Congressman and Senior Fellow, Roosevelt
Institute
10. William K. Black, University of Missouri-Kansas City
11. Lawrence Rufrano, Research, Federal Reserve Board, 2005-2015
12. Darrick Hamilton, New School for Social Research
13. Peter Eaton, University of Missouri-Kansas City
14. Eric Hake, Catawba College
15. Geoff Schneider, Bucknell University
16. Dell Champlin, Oregon State University
17. Antoine Godin, Kingston University, London, UK
18. John P. Watkins, Westminster College
19. Mayo C. Toruño, California State University, San Bernardino
20. Charles K. Wilber, Fellow, Joan B. Kroc Institute for International Peace
Studies, University of Notre Dame
21. Fadhel Kaboub, Denison University
22. Flavia Dantas, Cortland State University
23. Mitchell Green, Binzgar Institute
24. Bruce Collier, Education Management Information Systems
25. Winston H. Griffith, Bucknell University
26. Zdravka Todorova, Wright State University
27. David Barkin, Universidad Autonoma Metropolitana-Xochimilco
28. Rick Wicks, Göteborg, Sverige (Sweden) & Anchorage, Alaska
29. Philip Arestis, University of Cambridge
30. Amitava Krishna Dutt, University of Notre Dame
31. John F. Henry, Levy Economics Institute
32. James G. Devine, Loyola Marymount University
33. John Davis, Marquette University
34. Gary Mongiovi, St. John’s University
35. Eric Tymoigne, Lewis & Clark College
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36. Trevor Roycroft, Ohio University
37. James Sturgeon, University of Missouri-Kansas City
38. Spencer J. Pack, Connecticut College
39. Thomas Kemp, University of Wisconsin - Eau Claire
40. Ronnie Phillips, Colorado State University
41. John Dennis Chasse, SUNY at Brockport
42. Pavlina R. Tcherneva, Bard College
43. Silvio Guaita, Institution, Federal University of Rio de Janeiro (UFRJ)
44. Glen Atkinson, University of Nevada, Reno
45. William Van Lear, Belmont Abbey College
46. James M. Cypher, Universidad Autónoma de Zacatecas
47. Philip Pilkington, Political Economy Research Group, Kingston University
48. Eric Hoyt, PhD candidate, UMass-Amherst
49. Jon D. Wisman, American University
50. James K. Boyce, University of Massachusetts Amherst
51. Hendrik Van den Berg, Professor Emeritus, Universities of Nebraska
52. Thomas E. Lambert, Northern Kentucky University
53. Michael Nuwer, SUNY Potsdam
54. Nikka Lemons, The University of Texas-Arlington
55. Scott T. Fullwiler, Wartburg College
56. Charles M A. Clark, St. John's University
57. John T. Harvey, Texas Christian University
58. Daphne Greenwood, University of Colorado-Colorado Springs
59. Gerald Epstein, University of Massachusetts Amherst
60. Mohammad Moeini-Feizabadi, PhD candidate, University of Massachusetts
61. Rebecca Todd Peters, Elon University
62. Andres F. Cantillo, University of Missouri-Kansas City
63. Michael Meeropol, Professor Emeritus of Economics, Western New England
University
64. Robert H. Scott III, Monmouth University
65. Timothy A Wunder, Department of Economics University of TexasArlington
66. Mariano Torras, Adelphi University
67. Gennaro Zezza, Levy Economics Institute
68. Wolfram Elsner, University of Bremen
69. Larry Allen, Lamar University
70. John Miller, Wheaton College
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71. Chris Tilly, UCLA
72. Sean Flaherty, Franklin and Marshall College
73. Clifford Poirot, Shawnee State University
74. Anita Dancs, Western New England University
75. Calvin Mudzingiri, University of the Free State
76. Roger Even Bove, West Chester University
77. Andrea Armeni, Transform Finance
78. Anwar Shaikh, New School for Social Research
79. Steven Pressman, Colorado State University
80. Frank Pasquale, University of Maryland, Carey School of Law
81. John Weeks, SOAS, University of London
82. Matías Vernengo, Bucknell University
83. Thomas Masterson, Levy Economics Institute
84. Antonio Callari, Franklin and Marshall College
85. Avraham Baranes, Rollins College
86. Janet Spitz, the College of Saint Rose
87. Nancy Folbre, University of Massachusetts Amherst
88. Jennifer Taub, Vermont Law School
89. Irene van Staveren, Erasmus University
90. Yavuz Yaşar, University of Denver
91. Scott McConnell, Eastern Oregon University
92. Don Goldstein, Allegheny College
93. J. Pérez Oya, Retired UN secretariat (Spain)
94. Elaine McCrate, University of Vermont
95. Thomas E. Weisskopf, University of Michigan
96. Jeffrey Zink, Morningside College
97. Scott Jeffrey, Monmouth University
98. Lourdes Benería, Cornell University
99. Frank Thompson, University of Michigan
100. Baban Hasnat, The College at Brockport, State University of New York
101. Ilene Grabel, University of Denver
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102. Tara Natarajan, Saint Michael's College
103. Leanne Ussher, Queens College, City University of New York
104. Kathleen McAfee, San Francisco State University
105. Victoria Chick, University College London
106. Steve Keen, Kingston University
107. Heidi Mandanis Schooner, The Catholic University of America
108. Louis-Philippe Rochon, Laurentian University
109. Jamee K. Moudud, Professor of Economics, Sarah Lawrence College
110. Timothy A. Canova, Shepard Broad College of Law, Nova Southeastern
University
111. Karol Gil Vasquez, Nichols College
112. Mark Haggerty, University of Maine
113. Luis Brunstein University of California, Riverside
114. Cathleen Whiting, Willamette University
115. William Waller, Hobart and William Smith Colleges
116. Kade Finnoff, University of Massachuettes-Boston
117. Maarten de Kadt, Independent Economist
118. Timothy Koechlin, Vassar College
119. Ceren Soylu, University of Massachusetts-Amherst
120. Dorene Isenberg, University of Redlands
121. Barbara Hopkins, Wright State University
122. Matthew Rice, University of Missouri-Kansas City
123. David Gold, The New School for Social Research
124. Cyrus Bina, University of Minnesota
125. Mark Paul, University of Massachusetts-Amherst
126. Xuan Pham, Rockhurst University
127. Erik Dean, Portland Community College
128. Arthur E. Wilmarth, Jr., George Washington University Law School
129. Rohan Grey, President, Modern Money Network
130. Tamar Diana Wilson, University of Missouri—St. Louis
131. Radhika Balakrishanan, Rutgers University
132. Alla Semenova, SUNY Potsdam
133. Yeva Nersisyan, Franklin and Marshall College
134. Linwood Tauheed, University of Missouri-Kansas City
135. Michael Perelman, California State University, Chico
136. Janet T. Knoedler, Bucknell University
137. David Laibman, Brooklyn College and Graduate School, City University of
New York
138. Ann Pettifor, Director, Policy Research in Macroeconomics, London
139. Steve Schifferes, City University London
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140. Al Campbell, University of Utah
141. Faith Stevelman, New York Law School
142. Kathleen C. Engel, Suffolk University Law School
143. Jack Wendland, University of Missouri-Kansas City
144. Ruxandra Pavelchievici, University of Nice Sophia Antipolis
145. Zoe Sherman, Merrimack College
146. Donald St. Clair, CFP, Financial Planning Assoc. of Northern California
147. Carolyn McClanahan, CFP, Life Planning Partners, Inc.
148. Thomas Ferguson, Senior Fellow, Roosevelt Institute
149. Saule T. Omarova, Cornell University
150. Josh Ryan-Collins, City University, London
151. June Zaccone, Hofstra University
152. Alex Binder, Franklin & Marshall College
153. Albena Azmanova, University of Kent, Brussels School of International
Studies
154. Hans G. Ehrbar, University of Utah
155. Devin T. Rafferty, St. Peter’s University
156. Reynold F. Nesiba, Augustana University
157. David Zalewski, Providence College
158. Claudia Chaufan, University of California-San Francisco
159. L. Randall Wray, Levy Economics Institute and Bard College
160. Richard B. Wagner, JD, CFP, WorthLiving LLC
161. Joseph Persky, University of Illinois-Chicago
162. Julie Matthaei, Wellesley College
163. Peter Spiegler, University of Massachuetts-Amherst
164. James Ronald Stanfield, Colorado State University
165. William D. Pitney, CFP, Director of Advocacy, FPA of Silicon Valley
166. Ora R. Citron, CFP, Oak Tree Wealth Management
167. Susan Webber, Former Associate at Goldman, Sachs & Co.
168. Richard D. Wolff, Democracy at Work and New School for Social Research
169. Mu-JeongKho, University College London
170. Kevin Furey, Chemeketa Community College
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>>672688888
holy shit
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>>672688888
Nice
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SUp people
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>>672688791
Thank you OP.

Too many newfag kiddies on this site that dont understand why bernie is the best candidate both socially and economically.

People saying bernie doesnt understand economics, ironically, dont understand economics themselves.

BERNIE 2016. Fuck you if you disagree and want shitlary or drimpf. Rather have kasich than either of them.
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>>672688888
Bambambam quints of TRUTH.


FUCK TRUMP FUCK CLINTON!!

BERNIE STANDS WITH THE PEOPLE!!
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>>672688888
fuhrer quints, very nice
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>>672688888
Witne SS ed
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>>672688888
quints confirms sanders for prez
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>>672689592
Kasich is the sanest one in the bunch.
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Officially the best thread on /b/.

Ty OP and ty Bernie Sanders for standing up for the American people.

Im a dairy farmer who works 40+ hours a week and make 6 figures.

People who reap the benefits of capitalism should not be afraid to give back to the country that made their prosperity possible.

If im lucky ill be making 200thousandish dollars a year in the next few years and i see no shame in myself paying much more in taxes than someome who doesnt have the means yet to get that sort of income.


Taxing the wealthy to put money in the bottom of the economy isnt expenditure , ITS FUCKING INVESTMEMT.

Educate the poor and keep them well for one day they will bring in international economies.
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get your shit together cucks
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>>672690596
Go fuck yourself you idiot.
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>>672690596
>I don't know what "cuck" means
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>>672690387
Go fuck yourself. No one should be FORCED to give to anyone.

If you want to give back, go a fucking head. No one is stopping you.
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>voting for the "white people don't know what it's like to be poor" man
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>>672690387
Thanks for being a decent human being. Good news is that Bernies tax bump doesn't kick in until 250k.
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Holy shit university professors have a liberal socialist slant?!

https://lettertosanders.wordpress.com/
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>>672690718
If you dont understand that the only people giving would be those who have reaped the benefits of capitalism so much (myself) that you can afford all your needs and an excess of luxury.

I do not need 400thousand dollars a year when kids cant afford to go to school.

You are illiterate of economics
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>>672690934
Its honestly my pleasure. Im so insulted when these people who barely make 30k a year dont understand that bernie REPRESENTS THEIR INTERESTS.

Rather sad honestly
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>>672691211
Your a dairy farmer? Did you need a college degree to work on a farm?
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So you poorfags up for free stuff?
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>>672688791
He turned of every white voter over the age of 25 last night.
He's done. Who cares who he's endorsed by.
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>>672688791
>university professors all agree that they should get more money!
Essentially your whole post
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>>672690119
You should look into that, he is the most moderate, but far from sane, he has some really fucked up views of the world
>>672691422
Often yes, animal husbandry is a pretty complex process, as well as milk processing
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>>672691527
>I didn't read the letter
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>>672691492
I'm over age 25, he didn't turn me.
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Can someone post the original link?
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>>672691335
You might like Nick Hanauer's views on the situation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2gO4DKVpa8

There's also a group called "Patriotic Millionaires" that have been going around lobbying to have their taxes raised.
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>>672691950
https://berniesanders.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Wall-St-Letter-1.pdf
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>>672691422
I was lucky enough to be handed the business by my father, another hard working American.


I recognize that my position comes purely from LUCK. NOTHING ELSE.

So for those who do not have the same luck as me (own a 30 acre lake, 400 acres of fields and 300 cows) i think it is wise as a nation to invest in the bottom and not the already wealthy top.

When inner city places like flint cant access safe drinking water it says a whole lot about anti-government politicians (the republican governor of michigan) have a complete disconnect from reality.
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>>672691601
Did you need a degree though or could you of just gone too a couple classes at a CC to learn what you need to. In my area wine is a big thing and a good amount of people take a few class at the CC before they get a job at the vineyards or winery. If every one can go to college to get a degree that will make even more useless then it already is, just like a high school degree. Everyone has one so it's not that valuable. The supply is much greater than the demand.
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>>672689592
He's never going to get it.
Ever wonder why he stays in it?
He knows as soon as he quits the money will stop pouring in.
What do you think he is doing with all that untraceable money?
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>>672690387
i really like this guy.
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>>672692277
If everyone ca go to college then we can compete internationally. Without skilled workers we lose inventive innovation and inspiration.


So much good would come from a stress free college system. The only reason i didnt go is because i recognized it is artificially expensive (college) and that one day everyone will realize this and a change will be made.

The moment i can go to CC for free i will. And ill use the education to make my dairy farm much more innovative
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>>672692596
Are you kidding me? If it was about money he would have a SUPER PAC.
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>>672690387
Calling bullshit or cow shit as it maybe.
If you're a farmer then I'm the king of England.
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>>672692596
He doesn't get to keep the money, jackass.
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>>672690387
>dairy farmer.
>shit posting instead of working.
I grew up on a farm. You'd be out milking and covered in shit right now.

Come up with better lies.
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>>672692820
Hold up ill go take a pic
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>>672692869
I think cows get milked in the morning. Also, he probably has an employee or two.
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>>672692869
Fuck your mother bro such thing as phones in todays world.

Also milking is at 4 pm. Its noon right now. I dont have to touch cow tits for 4 more hours
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>>672691335
He doesn't represent mine.
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>>672688791
But /pol/ is that way ~~~~~>
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>>672688841
>>672688888
>>672688935
>>672688993
>>672689042

>Any of them seeing the 2008 crisis coming before it happened.

Sorry but I only listen to economists who are actually able to predict things - and are not puppets paid off by public money - asking for more public money. I mean top kek.

>the ones who actually saw the 2008 crash supporting Sanders
Toppest Kekest.

http://www.debtdeflation.com/blogs/2009/07/15/no-one-saw-this-coming-balderdash/
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>>672692869
He just said he's a rich farmer so he probably doesn't have to do that shit
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>>672691703
Just stupid
I guess
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>>672693149
You dont realize that he does.
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>>672693218
>I have no idea what any of them were saying before the crisis struck.
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>>672688888

oh my GOD, you got pents

you are blessed, my son
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>>672693218
Retard alert
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>>672693294
No, I can just read charts and shit.
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>>672691018
They have a socialist slant because they're paying attention to reality.
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>>672692229
Sounds nice, pics? Of course you don't.
As for flint you should try looking at the democrat mayor after all its his city, his responsibility or lack of that has caused the problem..
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>>672693039
>dairy farmer
>using the word "bro" and posting on 4chan
You're full of shit and everyone knows it.
Cows sleep until the sun comes up. It's winter. That's not 4am. Told you I was raised on a farm you fucking liar. You'd be feeding them and putting them out to pasture after milking at six.
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>>672692709
Stupid fuck confirmed.
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>>672692863
Sure he does. You know the money that falls on the floor.
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>>672692920
You mean search google.
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>>672693554

>You know what they were saying

Honestly it isnt too hard... if any of them got it right it would have been career changing for them. But none of them did / or do because they are towing the government line of
>Everything is awesome

I mean if you want to know why the economy really sucks... maybe you should look at most of the people who fucking teach it like OPs copy / paste.
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>>672692869
I picked that out too. Kid thinks were stupid.
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>>672691527
reading comprehension is hard i know but i believe in you. go read that statement and you'll understand.
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>>672693218
The very first guy on your list endorsed Bernie, retard.

Dean Baker, US Co-director, Center for Economic and Policy Research 2006 - See more at: http://www.debtdeflation.com/blogs/2009/07/15/no-one-saw-this-coming-balderdash/#sthash.rtN4y345.dpuf

4. Dean Baker, Center for Economic and Policy Research
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>>672693235
Rich
Farmer
Pick one
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>>672693410
Sorry he doesn't.
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This is the reason I will not vote for him and I'll make sure everyone around me will see this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xiT6nkCp8o
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>>672693558
You're just a greedy little fuck.
You will always be a drain on society.
Millennials the new niggers.
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>>672693574
Their reality. Guaranteed pay check.
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>>672694389
No, I'm not the greedy one. We all know who's looting the economy.
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>>672693977

You are right that he supports it (for some reason) but even he sees that if Sanders plan was implemented it would slow the fuck out of the economy.

You can read about it on his blog.

http://cepr.net/blogs/beat-the-press/romer-and-romer-do-the-numbers-on-friedman-sanders
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>>672694695
Assuming that's right, which it isn't: Slowing an unsustainable economy is a good thing, it's like slowing a leak in the boat.
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>>672688791
why does everyone think that when economists back a plan that it will be the only one that works
they have backed every plan because given the parameters that they are judging on it works. you need to look at real world applications to determine how well it will actually work. given a set of variables that will happen then it is good and you assume those variables will happen because you are saying that the desired outcome will be the real outcome so you won't allow those variables to not exist

simple way to look at it is for example taxes only go up for the rich and free stuff for all but only if none of the rich leave or find new loopholes to avoid paying. then in practice what you assumed wouldn't happen happened thus taxes go up for middle class and people end up worse off. that is how most of the economist who back the various candidates view things because thy want the desired outcome so only assume it will be the outcome.
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>>672694695
This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy.

I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility.

After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the FDA.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issued by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school.

Then, after spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the department of labor and the occupational safety and health administration, I drive back to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and the fire marshall's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.

I then log onto the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on /b/ about how SOCIALISM is BAD because the government can't do anything right.
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>>672692652
What does compete internationally mean? Are we not competing internationally already? American hackers aren't stealing Chinese companies blue prints, it's the other way around. I promise you high end tech places aren't having to look hard to find skilled motivated people. I don't know in other industries but I assume those who have the will and means to get a college degree in their field of choice are skilled and motivated enough to be an asset to a company. 32% of people over 25 have at least a bachelors degree. What do you think that percentage should be? Do you honestly think there will be zero strain on the economy if every one goes through a 4 year college before entering the work force. What motivates a person to work if they can go off and party at uni for 4 years on the the governments dime? At the closest cc near me the price is 46$ per unit assuming an AG class is 3 units, about $130 for a class. Not cheap by any means but if you can save up 2 days of minimum wage you can go. With your own investment not against the will of someone else. I defiantly think we are on the way to basic income/free tution in our lives. But things are to unstable right now if Bernie got elected and somehow was able to move every legislation he desired. I think the short term effects would be too disastrous to see any long term.
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I love how Berntards believe he's going to take money away from the 1%. Do a little math millennials...
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>>672694944
>I didn't read the letter
It had nothing to do with taxes.
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Pics of farm incoming. Driving home.
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>>672694942

>see one economist agrees with me everything will be awesome now Heil Sanders!
Post blog link that shows actual thought process
>well the economy cant grow forever anyway - its a good thing... Heil Sanders!

Jesus butt whoring christ
>talking to sanders supporters
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>>672695130
i used taxes as an example since that is something simple to understand
the point remains the same that they are saying it works because they judge it based off variables that will make it work assuming nothing interferes with it
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>>672695087
>implying you white trash trump backing degenerates could count to 20 without removing your shoes.
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>>672695003

>all paid for by taxes
Taken by where?....
The fucking free (ish) market.

Nice try bernie
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>>672693628
He said 4 PM you fucking autist.
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fuck off socialist scum bag
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>>672690778
This
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>>672695288
You people are so stupid you don't even know which talking points to copy and paste.

All you ever do is call us stupid and mock us like that's an argument. X)
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>>672695288
That's right though the excuse you always here for letting migrants in is that the birthrate is slowing we need labor to keep the economy growing. To have an ever growing economy you need an ever growing population. To manage a slowdown would be preferred, not under Bernie of course.
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>>672695441
>implying democrats broke the unions
>implying Bernie is for the type of free trade agreements that sent the auto industry overseas
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>>672688791

Of course they favor him.. onerous regulations and restrictions can be easily managed by billion-dollar companies. Startups and innovative competition will be really fucking screwed though, which helps the big corporations.

TL;DR: Regulations help the biggest corporations by stifling startup competition.
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>>672691422
>>672692117
>>672692820
>>672692869
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>>672694134
Sup bitches. In the background is my 2nd farm. Im standing at the main farm chillin with my dogs and cows.

Bernie 2016
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>>672695678

>talking points
>generalizing

How many hours of MSNBC do you have to watch to get to the point to where you actually say something like "talking points"

I dont use a fucking teleprompter lol
>Unlike Obama.
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>>672695401
>variables
You still didn't read the letter, did you? It addresses the size of big banks. Do you not know how monopolies work? Do you not know why investment and commercial banking used to be separated?
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>>672696018
Toim stomph !
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>>672695992
>I didn't read the letter
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>>672695952

>Trusting Bernie for being consistent
>Trusting anyone in politics

Sigh
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>>672696018
Should i climb them? Or do you still not believe a farmer is on /b/ and believes in bernie sanders
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>>672696018
Nice. It's flat as shit though, where are you?
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>>672696336
>I don't realize that Bernie gets attacked by Hillary for not being pro-gun control
>I don't realize that the circled area addresses PERSONAL behavior
Thanks for playing.
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>>672696376
Illinois
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>>672696336

>“On occasion, Bernie comes up with libertarian views when he talks about taking away the cronyism on Wall Street, so in essence he’s right, and occasionally he voted against war,”


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/ron-paul-ted-cruz-libertarian-218822
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>>672696613
Southern illinois? Not that anon, but that is where im living right now
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>>672696613
I was only there once when I was trucking. I do remember it being pretty damn flat.
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>>672693574
How to become a professor
>go to elementary
>go to middle school
>go to high school
>go to 4 year
>spend 2-4 years getting a masters in your field of choice maybe a phd if its a real science
>spend another year as a teachers aide
>look for a place that will let you lecture
Most of these people have never even entered the private sector many people become teachers because there to afraid to leave school. The best teachers I've had have spent time out in the real world. My favorite was a marine during desert storm.
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>>672696734
Actually yeah bro. Greater st
Louis area!
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>>672696933
>implying private colleges aren't a thing
>implying that no one on that list is in the private sector
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>>672696143
i know what it addresses but what its is addressing is something that most agree on and to act like he is the only one who knows it is like saying if you dont eat then you will die then everyone acting like you are a genius for figuring this out. the systems is flawed and corrupt and needs to be fixed, this is something that cant be argued except by people like clinton who are intertwined with it to much. the point i was making is that op was using economists to back his plan acting like this means sanders is the only hope because he plans to fix things. he and others want to fix it and simply saying hey ill fix it and these guys agree with me doesnt make sense because thats like a firefighter saying im gonna put out a fire so im special. his plan in theory works but so does trumps and cruzs. they have people backing there plans but again the reform only works if what is outlined goes according to plan and to use that as a supporting argument is foolish
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>>672696625
>cronyism
>Libertarian

http://www.alternet.org/visions/true-history-libertarianism-america-phony-ideology-promote-corporate-agenda
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>>672696894
Its flat as fuck... good people around though. That old time american small town feel still exists
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>>672697138
Link to experts backing Trump's plan please.
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>>672697127
Madison county? I live there for five years, but now im on the eastern side near Indiana
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>>672697147
the TRUE HISTORY THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT
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>>672697137
>private colleges
well you blow me out of the water that totally hits the point of all these people being babysat by education till the time they die.
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>>672697222
Yeah, you don't get that much anymore. I live in Florida now, but I grew up in a tiny town in Maryland. It was pretty nice.
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>>672697392
Right on the money. Outside edwardsville! Nice area. Slow and not too crowded
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>>672693611
I live less than an hour from flint, and even my water is tainted. It's literally an issue of fracking. It -has- been an issue of fracking all over michigan for like goddamn 10 years. But everybody's got their hands in the fucking FICO to stop it. The worst part is you know what they've done for Flint? Fucking nothing. Literally, nothing. They've just let them rot. If you think its a case of democrat vs republican, you're literally the cause of this kind of flagrant power abuse.
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>>672697649
4. Dean Baker, Center for Economic and Policy Research
8. Eileen Appelbaum, Center for Economic and Policy Research
24. Bruce Collier, Education Management Information Systems
77. Andrea Armeni, Transform Finance
146. Donald St. Clair, CFP, Financial Planning Assoc. of Northern California
147. Carolyn McClanahan, CFP, Life Planning Partners, Inc.
148. Thomas Ferguson, Senior Fellow, Roosevelt Institute
166. Ora R. Citron, CFP, Oak Tree Wealth Management
167. Susan Webber, Former Associate at Goldman, Sachs & Co.
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>>672698007
Yep. I lived in glencarbon for two years, troy for one year and woodriver for another two while i went to SIUE
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>>672697739
Yeah ive been all around the country and the closes ive gotten to the feeling of home was, oddly enough, rural northern new york and new england in general
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>>672698076
He's not even from there, it's a bullshit lobbyist group that has been here for 3 weeks.
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>>672698114
Small world. I almost went to SIUE but as my dads only son i thought i probably should stick around for him. Maybe ill still go there one day.
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>>672698434
Yeah it was nice. But you cant beat working on a farm, i helped my granddad when i was younger on his farm and my family raised some animals over in richland county illinois. SWIC is a nice school as well
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>>672697222
I miss that. Moved from Utah to Cali, worst mistake of my life.
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>>672698658
Also thought about swic. But to be entirely honest farming is the best. I have real freedom, something most americans dont have. I make my own schedule (sorta) and have free time to expand myself.

Ive taught myself how to play 7 instruments and i fucking love owning noobs in battlefield. No worries and stress free AND money. Its all good...

But i do still want some formal education. One day.
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>>672699079
Which part?
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>>672690718

Hey fucktard, how the fuck do you think we have roads and a military and a police force and a fire department?

You think the fucking rich billionaires give that money freely?
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>>672693884
Typical republitard. Evidence shoved in your face, pretend it's not real.

>Climate change is a hoax!
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>>672699556
From Sandy, UT to Oakland, CA.
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>>672700509
Ever have to go to SF or is there no point?
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Finally a thread I can get behind!
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>>672700687
Five nights a week.
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>>672701135
Work or pleasure? Lol. Been to both places and oakland is a mess in comparison
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/B/ernie 2016!
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>>672698092
oh sure like those fortune 500 companies know shit about the economy

trump 2016 make merica grate
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>>672701971

he actually said "FAKE OR GAY"
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>>672688791
He can't even win the primary.
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>>672702372
maybe you should be concerned that the only good candidate has no chance in our fucked up political system
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>>672701563
Work. Yeah, Oakland is interesting. Looking forward to when I have enough to move.
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>>672702497
this
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>>672702497
Many you should be worried about who's voting for Clinton.
Your endless threads about lies won't convince anyone to vote for him here. You're just a bunch of angry children that insults anyone who doesn't participate your echo chamber.

You actually drive more people to trump.
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>>672702497
There are more issues than simply the economy or race relations. Sanders is such a one note candidate that he brought up wall street when talking about Flint, MI in last night's debate.

Let's play devil's advocate and say he's a superior economic candidate. What about every other issue? Oh, he voted against the iraq war. Ok, what else though? He has no stance on anything other than anti-wall street. He's nothing more than an activist candidate.
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>>672703240
The objective is to piss them off so they go run their fascist mouths in ear shot of sane people and we win by association.

Think of them as carries for memes.
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>>672703423
wall street is symbolic of the market economy which is an aggressor to pretty much all the social and economic issues we experience

taking on wall street is the best way to slice the gordian knot that's developed over the past 100+ years
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>>672699431
Yeah i get that. But as long as the weather is good, and your livestock is healthy, farming is a gravy train. Except for planting and harvesting
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>>672688841
>>672688888
>>672688935
>>672688993
>>672689042
>list of people that financially gain from government (read: taxpayer) funded college programs
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>>672703570
>People on 4chan
>talk to people

Yeah. Good luck with that. You might as well be trying to turn lead to gold with the stuff under your sink.
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>>672703644
farming is only a gravy train to large producers, anyone too small will have fallow fields because of cartel pressures

here in my state a lot of small farmers go into more and more debt each year because they've entered into an agreement to only work a percentage of their land to keep crop prices up
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>>672690387
>works 4hrs+ a week
>but not at noon on a monday
Riiiight
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>>672703713
List of people on that list that don't work for the government. (Not including those who work for private universities)
4. Dean Baker, Center for Economic and Policy Research
8. Eileen Appelbaum, Center for Economic and Policy Research
24. Bruce Collier, Education Management Information Systems
77. Andrea Armeni, Transform Finance
146. Donald St. Clair, CFP, Financial Planning Assoc. of Northern California
147. Carolyn McClanahan, CFP, Life Planning Partners, Inc.
148. Thomas Ferguson, Senior Fellow, Roosevelt Institute
166. Ora R. Citron, CFP, Oak Tree Wealth Management
167. Susan Webber, Former Associate at Goldman, Sachs & Co.
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>>672703637
>he has opinions on so many more things than wall street
>like wall street
>and wall street
>plus there's wall street
>immigration? foreign policy? military? gun control? education? domestic security? Wall street.
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>>672703713
does this also invalidate the opinions of congressmen, soldiers and shareholders of corporations that receive government subsidies?
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>>672703918
That seems silly
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>>672704068
>needing to work directly for the government to financially gain from their programs
How fucking slow are you?
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>>672703914
you mean you dont? Start now while gold prices are still high, anon.
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>>672703914
You are allowed to go self marginalize somewhere else.
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>>672704190
anon, you're talking to a berniebro.
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>>672704189
too bad, these cartels wield monopoly power and are immune to antitrust laws
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>>672704190
>Goldman sachs
>Oak Tree Wealth management
>Life Planning Partners, inc.
>Transform Finance
>Financial Planning Assoc. of Northern California
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>>672704074
>gun control

>no one should have access to guns designed solely to kill people

>except police who are racist and need to be reformed

>nevermind the fact that all guns are designed to kill people
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>>672704182
I'm saying that the majority of the people on the list are financial advisors and/or university faculty
If universal college get pushed their markets explode, no matter how bad the economy ends up for everyone else.
I'm not faulting these people for trying to get theirs, but to spam their names like its a motivation to vote for Bernie is high level retardation.
>silly me not realizing i'm on /b/ and not /pol/
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>>672695441
Republicans of today are not the republicans of yesterday.
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>>672704608
>I didn't actually read the letter, if I had, I would realize that it doesn't say a fucking thing about universal college education.
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>>672704074
you can trace all the problems we have with immigration, foreign policy, the military, domestic security, domestic violence on policies put in place by politicians who were put in government by wall street types

see:

>herbert hoover
>nixon
>reagan
>clinton I
>bush I & II
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>>672704402
>zero knowledge about guns confirmed
>.50 cal, .22 ratshot, 40mm noob toobs, all identical
Please, tell us more strong opinions on things you evidently have no factual basis for.
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>>672690718
>Has no idea why government exists.
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>>672704608
my god, do you even think like a human or are you this retarded

read the fucking post
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>>672704793
the berndoctrination is strong in this one. Is sharting yourself wall street's fault too?
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>>672704819
All guns are inherently meant for killing people. There's no gun not "designed to kill people."

Bernie Sanders wants to ban all guns except for in the hands of government agents, who he also calls racist.
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>>672704608
Holy fucking fedora this post
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>>672704987
I'll just answer your adhom with the same

eat shit fuckface
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>>672696336
>Sigh

get the fuck out of here
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Is the bernie support basically the five year old version of occupy wall street? Did anything ever even come out of that?
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>>672704466

>the world wasn't a good place when i was young. so i'm just going to be bitter and pissed with the world and not make it a better place
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>>672705105
>Wants to close the background check loop hole
>Therefore wants to ban all guns

I have a concealed weapons permit. And even I know you're retarded.
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>>672705105
No, no he doesn't. Also .22 ratshot is a terrible round for killing people.
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>>672705105
http://thehill.com/regulation/272029-nra-tweets-support-for-bernie-sanders

Since you probably won't read that given the URL, here's the meat.
>"But if they are selling a product to a person who buys it legally, what you're really talking about is ending gun manufacturing in America. I don't agree with that.”"
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>>672705373
millions of dollars of toxic debt was expunged because of occupy wall street, the consumer financial protection agency began, elizabeth warren became senator and financial corruption is a topic of wide discussion, I think OWS did way more than people with money and their shills give them credit for
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>>672705472
He has explicitly said he wants to ban all guns designed to kill people.

That includes all self-defense handguns. Do you not listen to the news? Do you think your handgun isn't designed to kill people?

He does not want people to have the right to defend themselves.

There is no "background check loophole." When the law was passed, it was explicitly written into the law that owners of guns could sell their guns without a background check when it's from a private individual to a private individual. That was part of the compromise.

Now that the law has been established for a few decades, they're trying to remove the compromise by calling it a "loophole."
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>>672693742
Such a good comeback. You claim something, someone proves you otherwise. "Well they are a stupid Fuck."
Classic
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>>672705169
>adhom
it isn't ad hom. your position the entire time was "wall street is the problem behind everything, nothing else matters," when that is an incredibly narrow minded position. I, for one, believe you should totally get your college tuition reimbursed because this is a fine example of educating yourself stupid.
>that's ad hom btw
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>>672705472
Fucking outplayed
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>>672705105
>http://thehill.com/regulation/272029-nra-tweets-support-for-bernie-sanders
Sanders replied that if a gun was legally purchased, he disagreed with holding the gun manufacturer liable.
"If that is the point, I have to tell you I disagree. I disagree because you hold people — in terms of this liability thing, where you hold manufacturers' liable is if they understand that they're selling guns into an area that — it's getting into the hands of criminals, of course, they should be held liable.

"But if they are selling a product to a person who buys it legally, what you're really talking about is ending gun manufacturing in America. I don't agree with that.”

Hillary Clinton's campaign has sought to use Sanders's position on guns against him. It has particularly lambasted his vote in favor of the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) in 2005.

Critics say the law provides gun manufacturers with an unprecedented form of immunity that no other industry enjoys, but supporters maintain that it protects the firearms industry from frivolous lawsuits.

The NRA's tweet for Sanders was quickly highlighted by Correct the Record, a super-PAC that backs Clinton.
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>>672705856
Nice affirming the consequent you massive retarded faggot.

I think I found a picture of you
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>>672705574
The NRA does not represent me. Bernie Sanders wants to ban all guns designed for self defense. He doesn't believe in self defense.

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-appalled-by-mass-shootings/

"Semi automatic assault weapons" include handguns with features such as barrel shrouds that protect you from burning your hand. He wants to ban commonly-owned guns for having safety features.

>>672705975
Why are you bringing up the NRA? Have I said I am the NRA? What does the NRA have to do with my opinion?
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>>672705856
>"Do you not listen to the news?"

XD

In any case, the election is going to be between Hillary, Bernie, and Trump.

Hillary and Bernie are both beating him by 10 points at least. So which would you prefer, Hillary or the guy form the state that basically doesn't even have gun law?

Grow some perspective.
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>>672688791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQWORhqUBkA
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>>672706175
help bros please
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>>672705856
>There is no "background check loophole.
Instantly describes the loophole.
>When the law was passed, it was explicitly written into the law that owners of guns could sell their guns without a background check when it's from a private individual to a private individual.


Have you ever actually been through the instant background check? It takes like five fucking minutes. I go through it (sometimes) when I buy a gun, it's not like it's a major pain in the ass.
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>>672706089
That's an award winning argument you have going there. So much insight and substance behind your post, it has to be right. Try saying why the person is wrong and you might stop looking like an idiot.
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>>672705643
the expunged debt and consumer financial protection bureau started well before OWS. Those were more tied to the mortgage failures in 2008 because banks gave money to people who believed owning an expensive home was a human right. So at best OWS helped contribute to getting a senator elected. That's a great 1/100 victory.
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>>672706293
>the guy form the state that basically doesn't even have gun law?

He's not a member of his state senate. His retard opinion has zero bearing on his state laws. He is a senator for the United States Senate. He introduces and votes on legislation for the United States.
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>>672706468
That shit only happens to retards, now fuck off.
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>>672706480
>>Have you ever actually been through the instant background check? It takes like five fucking minutes

Unless the FBI doesn't feel like doing their job, and looking you up right then, so they can put a 72 hour hold with zero consequences.

How can you implement a "instant background check system" that includes a provision for a 72 hour hold on transferring a firearm?
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>>672688791

Tuck Frump, what a racist. BERNIE 2016!

http://www.vox.com/2016/3/6/11171092/democratic-debate-bernie-sanders-ghetto
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>>672705955
It's not ad hominem.
You addressed your points without attacking him. You didn't give up on your argument and make a personal attack.
You did throw in a barb, but that's normal around here.
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>>672706532
1/100 counts as "something" so I fulfilled your earlier goalposts
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>>672705643
occupy was a success. you guys can thank anon now. I did it for you fam. you're welcome.
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>>672706531
he literally wrote his argument
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent
you pussied out by calling it a shitty argument instead of explaining why

enjoying your outsourced job loss yet?
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>>672706228
>someone gets triggered by the NRA
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>>672706557
So his 90% victory in his home state is all his influence but being a powerful political figure there for decades has no impact on state law.

XD

Gun, gun people need to relax. In 5 years you'll be able to print and cnc mill your own guns from scrap metal.

The gun control ship has sailed. We won. (CDWL holder again)
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>>672706738
it is ad hominem, berndoctrination implies things about the person making the argument not the argument itself
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>>672688841
>>672688888
>>672688935

So I've googled 10 random names and all of them are foreigners. What's up with that?
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>>672706693
>No, I haven't been through an instant background check.

Only retards get holds put on their checks. It's never happened to me since I don't have any sort of criminal record.
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>>672706480
You didn't address the fact that private sales were explicitly permitted with the Brady act, as part of the 'compromise' to get the law to pass and now decades later, they call it a loophole and are trying to remove a provision written right into the law.

Why should we outlaw private sales?
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>>672707003
america is the land of opportunity, but americans are too poor to afford opportunity
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Bernie is literally the only one offering anything to those who've given up on politics.

>inb4 jew
The legs part still holds
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>>672707111
>It's never happened to me since I don't have any sort of criminal record.

You're lucky you don't share the name with anyone with a criminal record. How is it my fault that I do?

Why can't the FBI spent 15 minutes looking up my criminal history? Why do they need 72 hours? How can you call a system with a 72-hour wait an instant background check?
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Why the fuck are you dumb niggers even still talking about Sanders? Hillary already bought the election and now they're trying to shut down Trump because they couldn't buy him.
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>>672706885
This. This is why gun control is a non-issue for me. Pic related: $1000 ghost gunner that mills 80% AR lowers into working lowers. No background check needed.
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>>672690718
This attitude is exactly why we will see another 2008 economic implosion. Self above all else. But don't worry, our selective socialism means that the government (taxpayers) will bail out all offending parties.
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>>672706693
anon it literally takes five minutes or less. If you're like most citizens then you can pass a basic criminal background check.
>mental retardation is a disqualifier through so maybe that's why anon believes this.
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>>672707317
maybe post the original then and don't let christian bankers off the hook
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>>672707475
>If you're like most citizens then you can pass a basic criminal background check.

I pass just fine. The problem is the FBI likes to put a 72-hour hold on people arbitrarily.

It's not an instant background check.
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>>672690387

What is your opinion on affirmative action? Nobody seems to talk about this but Bernie has drastic plans to reinforce the current affirmative action plans.
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>>672707186
They were expressly permitted as a compromise to get the bill through, retard. Who cares? A loophole is a loophole. If you can't pass a five minute background check you have no business owning a gun anyways. Calm Down.
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>>672707336
see >>672702814
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>>672706807
god damn true american hero right here. >>672706807
Thank you, anon. I'm glad someone finally took credit for it. Like most great movements in this country there was a leader and anon is ours.
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>>672707654
>A loophole is a loophole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loophole

>A loophole is an ambiguity or inadequacy in a system, such as a law or security, which can be used to circumvent or otherwise avoid the intent, implied or explicitly stated, of the system.

If an action is explicitly permitted within a piece of legislation, how can it be a loophole?
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>>672707186
A gun show sale isn't the intent of a private sale exemption, that's why it's a loophole. A gun show becomes an unregulated gun shop.

If you're ok with background checks at all then you should be in favor of closing the loophole, as the majority of gun owners are.
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>>672688791
and after Trump is done trolling the Republicans, they won't have a leg to stand on.
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>>672707639
nice try everybody knows bernie only talks about wall street, except when he's only talking about gun control
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Don't you trump supporters know? Everything negative said about trump is a paid lie! He will save us more money than we spend! He will rebuild the world's largest military and go around waterboarding brown people.
End socialism! Public schools and roads are bad, make children serve in the military if they want to go to kindergarten!
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>>672707327
Do you buy a new gun the day you intend to shoot it? For me it's not an impulse purchase. If you know that you're name is flagged, then plan ahead. Fuck, 72 hours isn't all that much time, it's not like they're making you wait to eat or anything, you'll fucking live. That being said, I'VE NEVER HAD TO WAIT THAT LONG (except for on handguns, but that's federal law.) If your name wasn't Ahmed Mohammed, shit like this wouldn't happen to you.
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>>672707859
>A gun show becomes an unregulated gun shop.

Go read up on ATF regulations. Gun shows happened decades before the Brady Act was put into law. The ATF has definitions for what becomes a "gun shop" or who is selling guns and requires an FFL.

>If you're ok with background checks at all then you should be in favor of closing the loophole

Who says I am?

It's not a loophole. Go look up what a loophole is.
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>>672707336
Blacks vote for Hillary not Bernie. Sad but true.
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>>672688888
SIEG HEIL
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>>672707919
>make children serve in the military if they want to go to kindergarten

im imagining a 4 year old trying to disarm an IED its pretty funny
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>>672708018
>it takes 5 minutes

>IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT TAKES 3 DAYS TO BUY SOMETHING
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>>672707579
I can't even really tell what point you're trying to make anymore, anon. Should it be instant? Or not? Or are you just arguing with the interpretation of the word "instant?" I'm a gun owning liberal and honestly don't have much issue with waiting periods. The only time i could see it being a legitimate factor is if someone needs immediate protection but surely a compromise could be worked out through the legal or law enforcement system.
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>>672707003
I'm not anyone you've been speaking to, but I've looked into the list.
All those economists from the same school. Keynesian economics.
They all agree (by default) that Sanders is right, just like economists believed Reagan's "trickle down theory" in the 80's, we know how well that worked out.

So basically the people that list agree upon a theory, that's just as flawed as trickle down theory was. It's only showboating that some people believe Sanders isn't a idiot on economics.

He didn't understand loans or interest rates if you read what he wrote, but people are supposed to buy his crackpot ideas because other crack pots support them.

It's trickle down economy 2.0 didn't work the first time, so let's do it again!
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>>672688791
But is he going to build a wall and kick out the Mexican? That's what America really wants
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>>672707907
>this is correct
Bernie is nothing more than an activist candidate which is precisely why the super delegate system is in place.
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>>672705856
The national rifleman association is one if the largest lobbyist groups in Washington. It's pol level conspiracy thinking they'll ban all your guns and go on a roundup. Besides if a 1911 Doesn't have enough rounds for you there's something wrong
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>>672708090
Not necessarily, they just have to learn who Bernie is. I do see the establishment blacks backing her though, because Bernie's policies would cut into their businesses that rely on poverty.
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>>672708273
>I'm a gun owning liberal and honestly don't have much issue with waiting periods.

The issue is you're passing off a system that mandates arbitrary 72-hour waiting periods while at the same time trying to claim it's "instant."
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>>672708155
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>>672690718
>FORCED
I don't think you understand how taxes work
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>>672708114
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>>672708276
>I didn't read the letter
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>>672708276
keynesianism actually works if you follow keynes counter cyclical policy, the past 40 years has been monetarist policy that doesn't follow keynes
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>>672688841
>>672688888
>>672688935
>>672688993
>>672689042
>170 literally who's?, most of which are jews, agree with an economically illiterate jew
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>>672707327
I've had to make my local gun store order guns for me before so waiting another 3 days isn't that big a deal. I guess in the day of netflix, amazon, and tinder instant gratification is an expectation.
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>>672707870
That quote doesn't exist.
http://www.snopes.com/1998-trump-people-quote/
Looks like you were trolled, my friend.
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>>672707327
The 72 hour wait is more about preventing crimes of passion, it gives people time to cool down.
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>>672708487
It doesn't mandate a 72 hour waiting period unless your background check is fucking weird for some reason. I never wait 72 hours, Abdul. I get my shit within 5 minutes or so. Grow up, if your name is the same as some shithead who is banned from owning guns then waiting a couple of days is just the price you have to pay.
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>>672708752
>Snopes
Now who's trolling? You trust that site?
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>>672708487
so your issue is in the interpretation of the word "instant." That whether it's 5 minutes for most people or 72 hours for a major minority, it doesn't fit the definition of "instant." I wasn't expecting the autism levels in this one to be so high.
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>>672708661
>for me before so waiting another 3 days isn't that big a deal.

Well I hope no one you know is ever threatened with violence and needs to be armed sooner than 3 days. Hopefully the 'National Instant Criminal Background Check System' will be instant for them.

>>672708833
>unless your background check is fucking weird for some reason

It has put holds on people who have bought 50+ guns, own NFA items, etc. The system is broken.
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>>672708644
Solid argument from ignorance.
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>>672707907

I'm not asking about Bernie, I'm asking your opinion on affirmative action in relation to "I don't mind paying for free college", but at the same time there is rampant racism in the selection process against all non-blacks.

As for bernie's opinions, see his speeches on black lives matter.
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>>672708948
>That whether it's 5 minutes for most people or 72 hours for a major minority

You're telling me 72 hours falls into your interpretation of "instant background check?"
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>>672708865
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.snopes.com%2F1998-trump-people-quote%2F
Literally dozens of sites, EVEN FUCKING GAWKER, confirm this quote doesn't exist.

You bought into propaganda. I can't blame you. A lot of other stupid people blindly believed that quote was real too.
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>>672708487
Instant noodles take 5 minutes. They don't just spontaneously appear cooked
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>>672708972
>I don't plan ahead
If you wait to buy a gun until you're threatened, it's too late anyway.
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>>672709062
hurrr, this link http://lmgtfy.com/?q=trump+quote+1998
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>>672704402
this actually sounds reasonable to morally minded people. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to own guns, except licenced pest control - Period.
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>>672708069
>decades

Before instant background checks were even possible.

>"Who says I am?"

Then you're politically irrelevant and a minority among gun owners.

Besides, for purposes of the 2nd amendment you only have to break the law once to be ready.

Seriously, relax. This isn't about practicality with you.
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>>672708972
Don't hoard firearms. Unless you're a collector you make all gun owners look bad
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>>672706868
Everyone is talking about A bit you want to talk about B and this is why you have no idea what you are talking about.
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>>672708644
>economic illiterate
>Jews
Your antisemetism and your anti Semitic stereotypes are contradicting each other, you fucking retard.
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>>672688791

one old jew is much the same as any other anon
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>>672708972
If someone i know is threatened with violence that they think they may need to end another person's life to defend themselves within the next 72 hours then i would tell them to go to the fucking police. You're using an extreme example to try to make a point about an issue that only affects a very small percentage of most gun owners.
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>>672709322
4 years after it was law, the NICS was established.

How was it "impossible?" Do you know how the NICS works? You call the FBI, and the FBI looks at their computer for your name.
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>>672709376
I didn't call those JewS economically illiterate. I called a particular Jew economically illiterate. I'm merely stating how these Jews are just blindly agreeing with him.

Talk about illiterate.
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