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>USA is the most functioning political system on earth
>Sanders wants to get elected
>Sanders uses the phrase "political revolution"
>Sanders will destroy our political system, making it a semi-totalitarian government
>retards refuse to believe
>retards fail to understand "political revolution" is code-word for "I will fuck the system, and not in a good way."
>retards fail to understand that "political revolution" are literally the worst words that a future totalirianist would use in a political campaign, in a country that is not totalitarian yet, because he wants to get elected isntead of imprisoned

Retards. They have to check wikipedia to see exactly what 2+2 is. They vote for Sanders.
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>>672637271
I'm disabled, I have to vote for him you ableist.
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Sanders voters are all druggies
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>>672637271
>most functioning political system
>functioning political system
>functioning
>most

What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>672637271
Implying political revolution means totalitarian regime.
>American Revolution
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>>672637617
Go back to Nicaragua or wherever you think the system works faster.
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Now, listen here boy
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>>672637575
I've never once used drugs. I'm always a DD.
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>>672637760
>implying an actually better system that what we have now exists or can be imagined
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>>672637575
Better than an uptight twat who thinks the world itself doesn't create drugs such as marijuana and peyote.
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>>672637949
Fucking idiot. I was saying the American Revolution didn't result in a totalitarian regime while being a political revolution.
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>>672637271
>retards
that believe that Sanders' "political revolution" will turn us into a "semi-totalitarian (sic) government"
people like you OP
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>>672637617
He's american
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>>672638021
>is druggie
>sees himself as a pacifist hurting nobody
>probably thinks that heavily taxing drugs is government abuse, and weeps
>doesn't realize the best way government can get money for kids and education is by taxing stupid druggies
>indirectly doesn't care about children
>is so stupid, it doesn't even realize it doesn't care about children
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>>672638021
yeah but durr you're supposed to get a job not take drugs derpa doo
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>>672638390
K.
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>>672637271
go home hillary you're drunk
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>>672637271
>USA is the most functioning political system on earth
>implying
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I'm not as radical as OP is but I also think he makes a point.

We have a good political system despite what all the bernie and trump fans think. Politics means you have to argue and compromise and deal with the system. Bernie people say we need a political revolution and that all the Washington insiders are corrupt because they... are doing their jobs?

Trump people are basically like "fuck everything fuck the establishment fuck america fuck mexicans make america great again"

It's the same shit. People who don't understand that we are lucky to have a government where you have to argue, compromise, and accept a little disappointment, as opposed to a totalitarian government.

I swear to god I am so sick of bernie and trump fuckers talk about how they are going to change things when we already have a decent enough country.
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>>672637271
USA is the most functioning political system on earth

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>>672637271
>>USA is the most functioning political system on earth
have you tried direct democracy?

You guys are basically a 3rd world country at this point. No real universal healthcare, no real social security, no free education, death penalty, war, disease, poor mentally ill homeless people everywhere, you teach creationism at school, you are brainwashed idiots who never been out of the country and can't accept that there are countries who are far better off than you are..

oh well, go vote for some corporate puppy or even trump lol that will fix things for sure.
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>>672637868
>DD
?
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>>672638021
thanks for proving my point, comrade
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>>672638591
>>672639004
>>672639085
>>672637925

Number of wars we got into that we lost...1/20
Number of wars we got into that has us attacked home...0/20
Number of revolutions against central government...1(one) (mention, they were pro-slavery anti-science retards and they were given a chance for war, but lost the war)
Number of dictators that rose to power using the system...pending...0/1
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>>672637271
>USA is the most functioning political system on earth

Are you retarded?
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>>672638862
>when we already have a decent enough country.
no it's not "decent" when we let 1% of our population control everything and do nothing about man-made climate change.
And no, Hillary loathes the thought of taking down the big banks and scientists like James Hansen have taken Clinton to task about her proposed energy policy.

Also, don't equate Sanders and Trump. It makes you look like a dipshit.
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>>672639131
Designated Driver. In regards to being sober to drive those aren't.
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>>672639004
Well which is, laughing faggot?
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>>672639085
Who the fuck isn't some level of third world country at this point?
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>>672639244
Exactly! If it's not broken why try to fix it (or, in the case of trump, why have diarrhea all over it?)
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I just want to see this happen.
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>>672639244
That dose not make your political system good. it just means your military is good. are you so fucking dumb you can't tell the 2 apart?
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>>672639244
Wars that we've lost?
Do you count everything in the ME as wins?
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>>672639244
>Number of wars we got into that we lost...1/20
what the fuck are you talking about?
The US has lost every major conflict since WWII
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>>672639375
>mentioning the 1% --> envious
>mentioning big banks --> closeted anti-semite
>"don't equate Sanders and Trump" wants to restrict freedom of speech.
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>implying that Sanders has expressed any interest at all in changing our political system
>not recognizing that in context, the phrase "political revolution" has been used to refer to getting the younger generations out to vote in primaries and in the general election because of the low voter turnouts in recent years
>not recognizing he wants this because when voter turnout is high, democrats typically win the election so more younger people vote means his interests are kept safe
>thinking he's totalitarian though

You're retarded.
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>>672639375

Didn't mean to equate Sanders and Trump. I mean to equate the motivations of their fans (some kind of silly belief that we don't have a functional country).
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>>672639707
Trolling--> harder
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>>672637575
Potheads are way better to deal with than assholes who hate on potheads.
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>>672639707
Fucking kek
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>>672639865
Are you a pothead?
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>>672639707
>"don't equate Sanders and Trump" wants to restrict freedom of speech.
kek
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>>672639808
I just mentioned why we don't. And democratic institutions only work when all the people use them.

Sanders brings up the most compelling crises of our generation and you're still good with this country only being "decent."
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>>672639678
Laos and Cambodia...won
Korea...won
Vietnam...LOST
Yemen...won
Iraq1...won
Somalia...won
Yugoslavia...won
Iraq2...won
Afghanistan...won
Total loses...1/9 (post ww2)
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>>672639983
he is high, isn't he?
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>>672639930
I use to smoke a lot, tho now that im a little older i dont partake as much. Though if it was legalized and i didn't fear losing my job id probably smoke again.

I just dont see the point on fucking with potheads, like, why care so much what someone else is doing.
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>>672639085
I'm only a couple of years out of high school, but we were never taught creationism in school. If anything, we were taught evolution. The rest of your points are fairly valid, though.
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>>672637271
>USA is the most functioning political system on earth
>most functioning
Stopped reading there, what a joke.
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>>672639678
What major conflict? Name one that wasn't a proxy war or something too smalled to qualify as war
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>>672639930

Wannabe pothead here, proudly voting for Trump. Family wants Cruz but I don't want him or Sanders.
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>>672640134
All I said was Bernie supporters inebriated drug addicts and you proved my point. No hate in it at all.
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> retarded old fuck face
Pic very related
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>>672639865
Bernie is only a couple of years older than Trump and Hillary... Trump would also qualify as the oldest president ever, and Hillary would tie. Also, living past 80 isn't a ridiculous concept given modern medicine.
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>>672640279
You sound like a 15 year old to be QUITE honest
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>>672640236
I love when people say the US has lost wars. like, if other countries didn't bitch at us to restrain ourselves the middle east would be glassed.
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>>672640318
Bernie Sanders supporter, I've never touched drugs or alcohol in my life.
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>>672640236
Just saying the US did its share in winning WWII.

That's it. We haven't "won" anything since then. Korea was a stalemate, Vietnam was a loss, Iraq is a quagmire and Afghanistan is a klusterfuck.

What are you counting Grenada or something? Kek/
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>>672637271
Sanders can't get elected. Even you American cunts aren't that stupid.
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>>672639085
>complains that we have "broken social systems"
>in his country these systems don't exist at all
>but hey, at least ours are not broken, they just don't exist
>is afraid of Trump, so he begs us not to vote for him
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>>672640318
Never said i was voting for sanders.

>oh lordie, a pothead that isnt voting for sanders
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>>672637271
<Someone who does not live in USA
You guys should have Trump for president it might actually fuck your country hard enough that they have to establish a modern political system.

Clearly voting doesn't work anymore... if it ever truly did in the first place.

Voting for someone based solely on the fact they are a celebrity and have a big ego....
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>>672640530
>Sanders can't get elected
what is voting?
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> USA is the most functioning political system on earth

НАНАНАНАНАНАНАН
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I like Rubio, but I know he won't get elected.
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>>672640463
>"I've never touched drugs or alcohol in my life"

MODS MODS MODS
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>>672640236
Nam, which was lost by the democrats after the peace treaty was signed, nixon left office and the leftists newly elected to congress withdrew all support from South Vietnam just to be assholes.

Korea, which never ended and now the madman running the North has nuclear weapons handed to him by the same leftists.

Iran, which hasn't started yet, but will as soon as they put the nukes to use that the same damn scumsucking leftists just handed them.
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>>672640638
This thing Sanders is getting crushed in repeatedly by Clinton. Sander's supporters are either under the age of 18 or stay home smoking weed and eating chocolate cake while actual voters choose against him in droves.
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>>672640743
Because I can't be over 18 and sober.
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>>672640638
>2016
>thinking your vote matters

Its all a show, they president has already been chosen, and will just be a face to for people to bitch at, they really dont have any real power.
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>>672640727
He's a cocaine-addicted beaner queer bought and paid for by donors.
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>>672640912
wow my phone sucks at typing
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>>672640899
>used the phrase "over 18"

MODS
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>>672640912
>they president has already been chosen
In which case Trump wouldn't be surging right now. I don't think for a moment that the shady jewlite of this country smoking cigars in a dark room want him to win.
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>>672640849
He won 75% of the primaries this weekend, what are you talking about? It's too early to say he's getting "crushed" when every state is fairly close and some are being won by him. Wait until big democrat states like New York or California have their primaries.
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>>672640516
Korea could have been a fucking success had MacArthur been allowed to keep his position.
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>>672641022
>wow my phone sucks at typing

Oh my god, the cancer from your face spread to your fingers!
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>>672640789
>durr the leftists democratsits
revise history much?

We got out of Vietnam because Nixon couldn't fix it
>Korea
>nuclear weapons handed to him by the same leftists
Weekly World News much?
>Iran
>scumsucking leftits
yeah hurr durr durr i troll u too
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>>672640953
lol no he's not. There's nothing to even suggest that.
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>>672641051
And how do you know that.

They have all the money in the world to do what ever they want with.

How do you know the next 20 presidents have already been decided.
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>>672641089
Hillary almost has half the delegates needed to wrap this bitch up. Over twice that of Sanders. Don't look at things through rose-colored glasses.
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>>672640912
if ppl would only realize this, we could put most of the associated fuckery to rest.
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>>672641149
good one
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>>672637271
Thank God someone finally spoke out against this juggernaut of a campaign. You're a brave soul op, a warrior for Hillary, the rightful Queen of America!
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>>672640849
Actually Sanders and Clinton aren't that far apart and the Primaries are still going, so no.

What other cute revelations do you feel like sharing with the thread?
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>>672640558
We have an excellent political system called direct democracy in my country. It actually empowers the people to actually vote directly on laws. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy Look it up, read it and weep.

But this isn't about my country, it's about you failtards over at burgerland. We have free education, universal healthcare, social security etc.. also we're all very much rich, even our poorest people are rich compared to you tards.

I'm afraid of Trump as in he is a danger to peace an prosperity, but I also think he's really really funny. This election is kind of an IQ test for you merritards, and it isn't looking good.
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>>672641108
>>672640849
>>672640616
>>672640563
>>672640516
>>672640236

ITT: we start with Sanders and end up discussing wars. Please mister Sanders, if you are on 4chan right now, come help us with your foreign policy experience!
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>>672641156
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>>672641182
Not bought and paid for? Oh humor me more.

The cocaine bit is conjecture, I assume that of anyone with such a lust for power. The gay bit is probable.
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>>672640953
/pol/
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>>672640912
Funny how when Republicans elect dipshits like Bush for 8 years their vote matters, but mine? Naw. Better vote Paultard like you.
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>>672637949

The system you have now gives you a choice of Donald Trump or Hilary Clinton. Out of 320 million people. This is your choice.

The system is fucked
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>>672640912
This is the same shit people were saying before but with Jeb.
>your vote doesn't matter
>primary is a joke
>Clinton v Bush
>the system is set up for that
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>>672641089
I like Sanders, bug look at the delegate count, Sanders is behind by like, 200 delegates and Hillary has at least 600 superdelegates on her side too. The media and the establishment is against him and the support of young people probably isn't going to be enough to overcome the odds.
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>>672641193
>How do you know the next 20 presidents have already been decided.
Easy to disprove. That would be a time horizon between 40 and 80 years, assuming no one is killed off or resigns. The elites would literally need to be manufacturing people, which is just fucking retarded.

Your view of the world is too retarded to pick through.
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>>672641108
Yeah let's just set off a bunch of nukes along the Chinese border. Excellent idea, Doug. You're fired.
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>>672637271
>USA is the most functioning political system on earth
top fucking kek

1/10 for making me laugh
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>>672641270
That's what you get with a retard that's never been outside his hick town lol.
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>>672641394
you really think the American population voted Bush in for two terms? And wasnt just a ploy so we could stay in the war and eat oil?
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>>672641270
>there's only 10 people in my village-country and we get along, at least for today
>therefore, my country is better and faster than a federal republic with 325 million people
>we also used to have a colonial empire, and we're still ripping the benefits, at least for now
>we didn't invent anything in our lives because we don't work, and not working makes us happy
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>>672641339
Sanders has the only sane foreign policy experience. Pull back and let the regions take care of their own problems and stop being World Policeman.

Advice we should have taken after Vietnam utterly failed.
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>>672641591
He wanted to nuke China, not the border. He was about to take on China and deal with the fucking Reds.
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>>672641353
His brother in law was a huge cocaine drug lord.... but that doesn't mean that he had anything to do with it...

And how is he bought and paid for? Because he had donations? You can claim that about any candidates this year, or any in the past decade for that matter.
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>>672637271
You fuckers don't vote anyway.
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>>672641342
faggot
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>>672637271
Hey OP, my response is that bit John Oliver did on Drumpf.

I rest my case.
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>>672641267
Just look at the numbers, the actual numbers, Clinton is far ahead of Sanders. And then look at the polling data. Clinton will blitz Dixie and many other states.
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>>672641740
This.
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>>672640105
That fact that there even was an iraq2 means that we didn't win iraq1.
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>>672641591
China recently said North Korea was no longer their problem. They flat out said, "You take care of it." to the US.
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>>672641682
The supreme court is probably to blame for the first term but the American people voted for him the second time.
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>>672641777
trips dont lie.
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>>672641777
nigger
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>>672641461
So a choice between the most racist incompetent TV personality with twitter posts that remind me of my mom on facebook... or a highly qualified former Secretary of State, senator of New York, and first lady.

At least it's only half fucked.
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>>672641740
Vietnam was a won war. Lost only by the popular culture. It was an American victory but liberals were really upset by it so they made it a loss. Thanks, traitorous left.
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>>672641741
Splitting hairs much? But thanks for advocating genocide. I'm sure you think that makes you cool and that I should go back to -r3ddit or something.
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>>672641735
I hope you're doing better off in life than on /pol/ and /b/.
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>>672637271
>if you can't beat them, lie about them
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>>672641950
>most racist
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>>672641849
No they didn't faggot.
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>>672641758
The Rubio-Schumer amnesty bill to start with.
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>>672641954
faggot
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>>672637271
>USA is the most functioning political system on earth
By "functioning" you mean "corrupt" then I have to agree.
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>>672641583
I was just tossing out a number, if you think 20 terms, or 10 terms, or 5 terms, one person could cover two terms. Meaning it could potentially already be planned
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>>672642113
>Being proud of living in Dixie is racist
k
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>>672642075
>if you can't beat them, lie about everything

Trumps new campaign slogan.
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>>672641838
>thinks that winning a war means achieving all objectives, not just a preponderance of them
>has higher standards of winning a war than the Roman had in the Punic wars
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Trump wants to end the fed ban on medical marijuana and grant states the right to decide for themselves what is legal or not you fucking druggie retards
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>>672642113
>most butthurt
lrn2snopes faggot
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>>672641740
>>672641825

Since the choice that happened to be right for the Vietnam war definitely applies to every modern conflict.

Thanks but I will vote for a candidate with actual experience in foreign policy... maybe one with a lot of experience.
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>>672642180
No you are retarded and should kill yourself. Good thing you think voting is ineffectual because your ballot would inarguably do damage to society.
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>>672642168
no u

Nigger.
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>>672637271
H-Hillary? Is that you?
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>>672642277
Thanks but Sanders has enough experience, and we need to be fixing the massive problems we have at home. We are not at war, and we have a UN and NATO to protect this hemisphere.
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>>672637271
>most functioning political system

The idea of two party system itself is already inefficient.
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>>672642306
>hurr durr durr u leftists
>durr
gaywad
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>>672638549
Lel.
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>>672642357
The only candidate I would have voted for was Rand Paul or Deez Nuts.

Clinton, Sanders, Cruz and Trump are all fucked up. They are the extremes on 2 different perpedicular axis.
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>>672642283
Honestly, calling someone retarded over a message board, non the less 4chan, shows that you are pretty shallow minded. I dont 100% believe it, i just think its possible.

>Faggot
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>>672642476
You replied to me with simply the word "faggot" and expected a dignified response? Fuck off.
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>>672642427
>we are not at war

Are you fucking retarded?
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>>672642582
>Rand Paul
hahahahaha
no
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>>672642128
how is allowing illegal immigrants a path to citizenship "bought and paid for"? Do you even know what you're talking about?
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>>672642117
Nice rock you live under, like all libtards.

"The key to solving concerns over North Korea security lies in the Americans' hands."

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/968465.shtml

>>672642253
Fuck that leftist trash site. Unlike you, I was alive for that campaign.
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>>672642582
Did Deez Nuts suspend his campaign yet
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>>672640105
Laos and Cambodia...finally withdrew after heavy losses without changing anything at all
Korea...finally withdrew after heavy losses without changing anything at all
Vietnam...LOST
Yemen...finally withdrew after heavy losses without changing anything at all
Iraq1...finally withdrew after heavy losses without changing anything at all
Somalia...finally withdrew after heavy losses without changing anything at all
Yugoslavia...
Iraq2...destroyed the semi-stable system there way based on false accusations, thus making way for IS
Afghanistan...finally withdrew after heavy losses without changing anything at all

>FTFY
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>>672642608
I think it's possible a teapot is floating over your house right now. I don't 100% believe it, I just think it's possible

>Faggot
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>>672642612
>durr the leftists
>stop im trying to think durr
faggot
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>>672642631
Where are we at war then you double-nigger?
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>>672642427
The UN and NATO are not what protect this hemisphere. This is.

When exactly did 4chan pussy the fuck out?
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>>672642438
>would like only one party to make the rules
>says that shit on a site governed by low moderation and anonymity
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>>672637271
>USA is the most functioning political system on earth.

Stopped reading right there
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>>672642698
he's like 15 so ya
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>>672642631
Technically, the war in iraq was never declared a war. Because if its declared war, the generals would take over the army, but when its just a conflict the government officials have control over the military.
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>>672642732
oh, I forgot:
Yugoslavia...finally withdrew without changing anything at all
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>>672642631
what "war" are we fighting?
We're cleaning up 8 years of Bush's mistakes using military action

We are not at war with any country.
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>>672642824
>>672642698
>15
Still better than Sanders.
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>>672637271
>>USA is the most functioning political system on earth
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>>672642792
I actually support ideas of multiple parties.

The idea of two parties or one party makes this whole shit very limited.
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>>672642741
I dont drink tea. Tea is for Euro trash.

your argument is clearly invalid.
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>>672642775
Syria, Libya, Yemen, Iraq.... Uhh there are a few more, but I can't remember them off the top of my head.
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>>672637271

Most Sanders supporters I've met are a hell of a lot smarter than you. Maybe you should listen to your superiors?
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Let me tell al you anons why I'm voting for Trump....

I saw Bernie Sanders at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for autographs or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
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>>672642681
there is nothing in that article that proves even one shittard of your post faggot. >>672641849
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>>672642732
We have not withdrawn from Afghanistan or Iraq, despite all the proclamations of "Mission Accomplished" from Emperor Puttsmost.

Libya.. LOST
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>>672643030
Most Sanders supporters I've met are college children who think they are smart but are actually just sucking each other's penises while they talk about how much they hate hillary
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>>672643051
LOL WHAT
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>>672643051
what is that from? I have a thread saved where it's moot doing that shit
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>>672643030
That's the problem with demoCRAZY: intelligent peoples' votes count just as much as those cast by stupid people
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>>672643184
ok gramps
how are those clouds you're yelling at?
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>>672643051

that's actually pretty hilarious but clearly not true
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>>672643051
Kek
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>>672642862
How's the cleanup in Libya going?

>>672643089
Sorry, I didn't realize you couldn't read. Back to your fluffy abuse thread.
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>>672637271
>a semi-totalitarian government
How do you figure?
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>>672643137
As far as I recall, there are no more western forces in neither Afghanistan (which is right on it's way back into Taliban-chaos) nor Iraq (where now the IS reigns)
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>>672642582
Ah, another libertarian nutbag. U jelly that Sanders is actually winning primaries and caucuses unlike your boy "Ayn" Rand Paul?
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>>672642732
>Laos and Cambodia...finally withdrew after heavy losses without changing anything at all
lie
>Korea...finally withdrew after heavy losses without changing anything at all
Stabilized the region into two countries, at least put all the rotten eggs in one basket
>Yemen...finally withdrew after heavy losses without changing anything at all
same as korea
>Iraq1...finally withdrew after heavy losses without changing anything at all
lie, no losses, temporary objectives completely achieved
>Somalia...finally withdrew after heavy losses without changing anything at all
not changing immediately, but in time, it improved
>Yugoslavia...
killed the dictator, resolved the instability, protected the people who asked American aid to defend democracy
>Iraq2...destroyed the semi-stable system there way based on false accusations
kek. Saddam himself was wanted for 37 murders and several gruesome rapes, not to mention his minions. But you call it "stable" because you are cynical as fuck
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>>672643184

awwww somebody dropped out of high school and is super jealous ;)
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>>672643491

I'm not much of a Sanders supporter but you make a good point. Nothing pleases me more than knowing that the libertarian bullshit revolution of the Pauls never got anywhere close to the level of the silly old man Bernie.
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>>672643352
Sorry didn't realize you were such a sore loser after getting your ass handed to you.

China is very much still in the lead as to North Korea. Stop posting disinformation, stop trying to make it look like the US has the "right" to engage in intervention.
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>>672643487
Your recollection is garbage.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-special-ops-troops-afghanistan-battle-taliban-helmand-evacuated/

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/10/world/asia/us-troops-helmand-province-afghanistan.html
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The thing is that anybody trying to run for president that is already rooted in the government and congress (i.e. Hillary) wont change anything. Nobody who is in the same allignment with ideas of the past wont change anything. We need someone who will change things, and Bernie is a person who is willing to try and change something, do something new. Many people and skeptics don't like new things, which is why I sorta understand your approach, but being close minded and continuing in the same direction we've been going wont change anything for the better. Bernie says he's a socialist, but truthfully, his definition of "socialism" is really just modern democracy. People SHOULD support each other, especially in a country built by the people, together. If Bernie loses this election, 1% of the population will benefit under any other nominee. If he wins however, 99% will win. People shouldn't feel good coming home knowing that there are people in this country struggling to put food on the table and pay for college and health care, especially when they know they could be doing something to help.
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>>672643658
you say to someone about to start a postdoctoral position in theoretical physics
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>>672643658
anon actually has a big day tomorrow in 8th grade: staying out of the way of the bullies
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>>672643491
>>672643830
>"You realize you will never be in the 1%? Well, then, hello my new best friend! My name is Bern!"
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>>672643830

So then all Socialist European democracies are just silly?
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>>672643352
we're not at war with Libya either faggot
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>>672642953
The fact that the U.S is the size that it is and has not broken up is fucking outstanding on its own. Literally every ethnicity on the planet plastered onto 50 states all of which are different in their own right. On one end of the country a middle aged white women is masturbating to trump, whileon the other side black people are cucking the Bernster. In terms of a population to law ratio it is by all means the most successful govt. in the world. Perhaps even history.
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>>672643868
Fuck you, make me. Enjoy life under Trump. Meanwhile take your own advice and shut the fuck up, hippie. Everyone is sick of your shit.
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>>672642862
>we're shooting people and killing people with our military

>but its totally not a war guize!
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>>672643990

you say on /b/ to someone who can easily identify bullshit in an instant
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>>672644134
Yep. Sore butt, sore loser.
>everyone
you and your stuffed animals in mom's basement isn't "everyone"
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>>672644133
>Literally every ethnicity on the planet plastered onto 50 states all of which are different in their own right.
Well, since '67.
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>>672644149
Yes they are police actions made necessary by 8 years of failed policy under Bush. To cal them "wars" is just being retarded.
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>>672644256
whatever you think anon
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>>672642985
Giving weapons to sand niggers to fight other sand niggers is not direct warfare.
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>>672644256
If you look it up, we as a government are currently not at war.

However there are small conflicts that we are helping with.

But as a full scale war, no
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>>672644134
grampa's off his meds again
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>>672644100
Your glorious leader had the government of Libya assassinated and dismantled. The country fell into chaos which exists to this day. Weapons stored at military bases across the country are now in the hands of terrorists and are being spread worldwide. This is all your fucking fault, you little shit.
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>>672643184
>while they talk about how much they hate hillary
And this is the most amusing thing about the phenomena.
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>>672637271
>USA is the most functioning political system on earth

oh yea, because China doesnt exist anymore...
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>>672644462
what else did you ctrl-f/ctrl-c on stormfag today anon?
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>>672644457
Says the sanders supporter.
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>>672637271
>america
>functioning

14 y/o detected
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>>672644370

I think that a person with your reasoning skills never graduated from college. You're just an internet big-shot.
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>>672644579'
>Sanders supporter
>implying that's a bad thing
>child-executing priest-beheading cannibals
but enough about your sexual fantasies anon
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>>672638390
i cant tell if this is bait or autism
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>>672644462
>This is all your fucking fault, you little shit.

Listen here you fucking retard, we have no say in what goes on.

Do you want me to go up to the white house and say "hey, nigger, stop doing that"

You fuckers think we have a 900 number strait to Obama's yacht, then blame us for what our government does.

Im sure Eurotrash had a say in bringing the mudslimes in, right?
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>>672643513
Laos and Cambodia: nigger, the red Khmer WON that shit. They just simply won

>Stabilized the region into two countries, at least put all the rotten eggs in one basket
You ended up right where you started: the 38th line of altitude was the border before and after the war

Yemen is ONE country, nigger. And a safe haven for terrorists.

Somalia IMPROVED? Seriously, I don't know if there's another Somalia on your murican world map, but the Somalia I know is far from improval.

Saddam may not have been the best ruler imaginable, but better than what you left Iraq with, wouldn't you agree?
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>>672644512
china literally mimicked the U.S anon\, read a book. China is where its at because of the U.S. They took the manufacturing techniques from the americans and essentially perfected them. However they wouldn't be where they're at without the U.S.
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>>672639496
this so much. Sadly 90% of our fucking country cant separate the 2
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>>672644133
this

Please should chill about the need for revolution and big change. We can slowly get better.

It's just like the stock market. If you want to make money in the long run, you have to go with the market. It's foolish to try to beat it.

By analogy, voting for a "normal" candidate means keeping the course letting the country gradually get better for everyone, whatever that means. Voting for a radical candidate like Trump is a huge risk and might ruin everything we've worked for since 1776. Let's not forget that this country did almost break once... something similar could happen again.
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>>672645031
>We can slowly get better.
No. We tried that shit.

With issues like climate change and economic inequality, we need to address them NOW. Not five years, not 10, not 20 years down the line.
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>>672644706
k
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>>672643888
ohh, wow, a few special forces left behind to do the dirty clean up. that will surely sort out again the mess of a country the main forces left behind
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Obamas the best republican we've had yet, not saying much

N'UH, HE SAID HES A LIBBY, free helfcare? what is this FULL COMMUNISM ALREADY?
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>>672637271
Haha hahaha hahahaha! Bringing this low quality bait.
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>>672644846
>Saddam may not have been the best ruler imaginable, but better than what you left Iraq with, wouldn't you agree?
1.Most of Iraq is democratic now. And far far less corrupt than before. Not under ISIS.
2.The part under ISIS was completely unforeseeable, because ISIS mainly came from Syria.
3.Experts say that ISIS would have had less success under Saddam, but they AREN'T very sure about it.

Besides, we only wanted to implement democracy there. If that has some minor unforeseen negative effects, should we had double-guessed ourselves? Is that what you're seeing? "Hmm, I do like democracy, and I have no reason not to bring to Iraq, but I will site here with my ass in my hand anyway, because I'm afraid without reason." is what you're saying.
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If Bernie doesn't win primaries I'm voting Trump cause if anyone of you guys thinks Hilary is on your side you're retarded
Think for a second about all the big business she is involved in, her doing anything to change our current system go against any benefit she could have, at least Trump isn't going to running everything for his own benefit he's just going to make the rich richer and poor slightly less poor also ruin foreign relations
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>>672644874
Neat. Doesnt disprove my point at all.

>they improved our system, so we're still better

>the first gen iPhone is better than the 6, because it was first
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>>672645031
>Voting for trump could ruin everything since 1776

You don't get an award for the cheesiest performance here. That's so over the top melodramatic horse shit. We survived Bush, and the sky didn't fall, chicken little.

It's hard to believe you when you think one man could undo that much. It isn't possible.
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>USA is the most functioning political system on earth
I don't even have to read the rest of the post to know that you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about
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>>672645494
>If Bernie doesn't win primaries I'm voting Trump

How in god's name could you ever swing between those two? It's hard to imagine two more different candidates.

When you talk about Hilary you sound like a conspiracy theorist 9/11 inside job guy.
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>>672643051
this is originally a Flying Lotus copypasta. I'm pretty damn sure.
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>>672644844
They voted in the "leaders" knowing full well that's what they supported. And they're still doing it. You think sanders, of all people, can clean this mess up? He can't even clean up his $65,000 in credit card debt on a congressional salary. You people are pathetic.
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>>672645299
wut
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>>672645494
>cause if anyone of you guys thinks Hilary is on your side you're retarded

what in gods name makes you think Trump is on your side???
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>>672645663

Bush wasn't that shitty! He was a pawn, but he was a normal president.

Trump would be the first president to have zero political experience. He could fuck up our foreign relations, ruin the economy, abolish freedom of religion with his islamaphobia, etc etc.

I'm not saying he will destroy the country... I just think he could.... maybe... and again, there was a civil war so we've almost broken before.
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>>672645231
The main forces strictly controlled by your elected leadership in DC? The ones that claim that all troops were withdrawn? The ones that claim the war is long over but somehow it's pretty fucking obviously raging on? By your own admission?

Yeah, have fun voting for more of that, you tard.
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>>672645733
I'm OP.

And you never went to another country, have you?

Also, you're a rich white girl who considers herself "from the hood"?
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>>672639244
>Judging our government's success using war statistics

I also judge how good my car is by how many crashes it's been in
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do u stupid fucks not understand checks and balances??? Me either
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>>672646080
Bush wrecked the economy, has the blood of thousands of soldiers in his hands, and played a part in dumbing down the education system. He was bad enough that, in comparison, Obama looks like a hero.
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>>672637271
Bernie may attract a somewhat crude demographic, but anyone with any reason to them will understand that he is far and away the most intelligent, honest, passionate and sympathetic candidate running (though it's not much of a competition for anyone with half a brain).

Anyone who is afraid of the established system changing is the real fucking retard because the current system is hardly functional and has been getting changed and amended and raped practically since the day the Declaration of Independence was signed. We live in an impermanent, ever-changing world, and we can't delude ourselves into thinking politics should be any different. We as a society have always been rewriting the rules and blazing new trails in our quest for a more perfect society, and on the whole we have made great advancements as a species, but society today still leaves a lot to be desired.

So instead of sinking into pathetic, indifferent complacency and making do with the current, still highly imperfect system (which is basically what the fanatically nationalist republicans and moderate conservative Hillary all essentially aim to do), why not invest in the candidate with progressive and ambitious values aimed at bringing us up to speed with the rest of the civilized world - one who acknowledges that this chapter of our country's history is subject to the same fleeting, constantly transforming world that every proud and decorated era in United States history was subjected to, rather than desperately struggling to hold on to increasingly obsolete and unjust policies like all the others? Bernie only candidate that isn't either an irrational trigger-happy nutcase or a lying plastic cunt.

EVERYONE GET OUT AND VOTE FOR BERNIE IN YOUR STATE PRIMARY
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>>672646080
Foreign relations are already fucked, the economy has been ruined since 08 and somehow Trump has the majority of the muslim vote. Keep trying, nobody is listening.
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>>672637271
>USA is the most functioning political system on earth

When in doubt: "MURRICA #1"
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>>672637271

>Sanders walked with M.L. King and was arrested for equality protesting.
>Good enough reason for the non-racist hick white trash uneducated cousin fucking voters.
>Like anybody uses wikipedia for facts.
Learn2Politics
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>>672646191
>implying that
>the wars against Mexico (when mexico attacked us) and against Cuba (when they attacked us) and ww1 (helping uk) and ww2 (against nazis) and korea and vietnam and iraq (all dominated by bullies)
>were not necessary wars
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>>672646080
Bush started a war based on lies, to hand blank checks to Halliburton. Bush is the reason ISIS exists.

I can't take you seriously. Good night anon.
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>>672645787
>2016
>thinks our votes matter
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>>672637949
Most countries don't have gerrymandering.

Most countries don't have electoral college.

Most countries are actual democracies.

Read a fucking book, or even a Wikipedia article, you pathological retard.
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>>672646361
Yeah, but we are talking about different orders of magnitudes.

If Bush scores a 3, Obama scores a 6.5, and Lincoln scores a 9.8. But Trump would score a .01. I'm not saying Bush was good, but I'm saying that he was a typical not-so-good president in our history.
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>>672646080
When bush took pledge of office the US budget was 1.7Trillion dollars.

when he stepped out it was 4Trillion.

There has never been a worse fiscal president than Bush.
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>>672646637
>Most countries are actual democracies.
boy did you blow it on this one. My sides
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>>672646788
>>672646536

see
>>672646678
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>>672646637
>implying that gerrymandering and the electoral college have a big negative influence
.implying they are not just tweaks to make the system more stable and prevent voter fraud
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>>672646678
This is the leader of the country we're talking about. we cant grade these people on a curve. what is this, a middle school algebra quiz?
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>>672637271
>USA is the most functioning political system on earth
real neato
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>>672647045
>implying the electoral college isnt set up to cancel out the popular vote
>implying thats not how Bush got elected the 2nd time
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>>672637271
>USA is the most functioning political system on earth

lol, stopped reading there
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>>672639244
>Number of wars the US lost:
Vietnam, Iraq, arguably Korea, 1812, and Afghanistan
>Number of wars fought on home soil
You seem to have forgotten that the Japanese captured US territory in Alaska during WWII.
>Number of revolutions against central government:
You forgot the Whiskey rebellion.
>Number of dictators that rose to power using the system:
You're right here, unless you count FDR who was in office until he died and drastically increased the power of the presidency.
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>>672647109
this level of stupidity is beyond me. My comment was about how bad trump was, not about how good bush was.

It was in response to someone who wrote

>We survived Bush, and the sky didn't fall, chicken little.

as though surviving bush would mean we can also survive trump.

I think if you see my context you'll understand what I'm talking about. I don't like bush either.
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>>672647235
>implying that vote canceling is bad
You are retarded. If I vote for Clinton and you vote for Sanders, our votes already cancel out, retard. Gerry or not.
>implying that Bush would have lost by a high enough margin enough to consider to system as rigged
Because voters in small states should be ignored for life, amirite?
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>>672646678
>trump would score a 0.1
You are completely wrong, there is almost no chance for trump to score worse than a 5, here is why.

The way the office of the US president is set up there is very little a president can do without the support of congress and senate.

If hillary gets elected now she will do nothing for two years, because congress and senate will work against her. The problem is that in 2 years one of those may turn democrat, or even worse both turn democrat. At that point Hillary would start getting things done, and things would suck.

Same thing for a republican president. If rubio becomes president he has two years to get things done with senate and congress working with him, god save us.

If Trump gets elected, he will NOT be able to work with the republican senate and congress, in two years when things turn democrati he will also not be able to work with the newly elected senators.

A president that is not able to work with congress and senate will not be able to get anything done, so he will never be a good or bad president. Lets assume he sucks, he will get a 5
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>>672647370
You know your shit. you probably read books. Nerd.

I'm leaving. I'm not arguing with nerd that know everything.
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>>672646098
>Our political system consists of two parties who argue minute differences in ideology and blow them up to seem like world-shattering conflicts in order to polarize the population
>When one side loses the majority power, they spend the next 4 years ensuring that the other side gets as few productive things accomplished as possible to make them look bad and increase their own chances of winning next election cycle
>It's common practice to stall for days when Congress is in session to make sure nothing productive happens, to the point where we invented a word for it: Filibustering
>best system in the world
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>wants to dismantle the most invasive surveillance state in the world
>wants to make it harder to buy polititians
>wants to legalize harmless recreational drugs
>wants to ban for-profit prisons
>totalitarian

Meanwhile, on free speech:
>We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way.
>Somebody will say, 'Oh, freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people.

>We're going to open up those libel laws so when The New York Times writes a hit piece, which is a total disgrace, or when the Washington Post, which is there for other reasons, writes a hit piece, we can sue them and win money instead of having no chance of winning because they're totally protected

on freedom of religion:
>Nobody wants to say this and nobody wants to shut down religious institutions or anything, but you know, you understand it. A lot of people understand it. We’re going to have no choice

on cruel and unusual punishment:
>We have to play the game the way they're playing the game. You're not going to win if we're soft and they're, they have no rules

on the 14th amendment:
>No, it’s not in the Constitution. If you read and if you look, and if you go to the real scholars, like different people that I can give you, they will tell you.

on mass surveillance:
>I err on the side of security.

on the Geneva convention:
>And the other thing is with the terrorists, you have to take out their families
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>>672647963
here have whatever this is
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>>672648011
yes, those are the good things about our political system. You should see the system some of the guys over there use.
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>>672647840

So while you're a republican and I'm a democrat so we disagree about what "good" is, you do make a really nice point about how no congress or senate would work with Trump... I hope.

But I guess I'm scared that if Trump were elected, even if he can't get much passed, would just be a horrible leader. He would pass absurd executive actions, and embarrass us as a nation. I guess that's not as bad as a 0.1 but I feel like this is hard to predict.
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>>672646908
Your a shill. Bush sent people I knew and loved to die for Haliburton oil and stock profits.

You dare compare those lost lives to "Trump says things that make my tummy hurt"? Fuck you, you plastic shill. Fuck you and your ignorant paid for opinion. You are the scum of the earth.

I'm voting for trump just to piss you off, tell your lobbying company to pick people that aren't fucking tools.

I tried to be civil, but fuck you. Those dead people weren't just numbers in a book to me, like they are to you. Bush slaughtered good people on both sides-for profit.

Fuck you with the force of 1000000 b&hammers. I loathe you and your opinion more than anything on earth you fucking shill.
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>>672648011
>implying that we only have two political parties because the system is bad and not because Americans are mediocre people
>implying that politicians discuss small differences in ideology because they're partisan, not because we already have a finely tuned legal system
>implying that a country which is based on the philosophy of individualism should not use the filibuster which the expression of individualism in politics
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>>672637271
... wow, sanders is a totalitarian. I never thought I'd hear those words. he's a bit socialist sure, but you have a man whose basically playing by the hitler handbook in trump, who the entire world is joking about, and SANDERS is the totalitarian...

I think I need to sit down.
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>>672648011
Still better than a dictatorship and still better than Russia.
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>>672648430
Yeah, Trump is going to start more wars and commit more human rights violations then any american president in the past hundred years.
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>>672648317
Examples please
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>>672647370
>You seem to have forgotten that the Japanese captured US territory in Alaska during WWII
What, some remote islands in the Aleutians? That's hardly home soil.
>>672647370
>You're right here, unless you count FDR who was in office until he died and drastically increased the power of the presidency.
True, but the New Deal was one of the most comprehensive and effective domestic policies in US history. Putting the Japanese in camps wasn't cool, but aside from that FDR was a fucking champ with the concerns of the people at heart.
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>>672648254
wow, imma ask my mum to buy dis outta her social security money

danke, nerd
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>>672648430
>Your a shill

You're consistent with the known fact that Trump supporters are not well-educated.
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>>672648472
>he's a bit totalitarian
Yeah, only a bit, only if you disagree with him. Not if you agree. He's not going to do anything to you fi you agree with him.
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>>672648574

you can't fix the stupidity of that guy... no need to try.
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>>672637271
Trump literally used China's behavior during Tienanmen Square as an example for how we should act as a country

I'll take my chances with the guy who doesn't act like an authoritarian, thanks.
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>KKK member op is redneck that cares about keeping his incest filled family on top of everyone else
>when .01% of the population owns 80% wealth, when 99.99% of population can barely afford anything and work til they die to be still in debt to said .01% is that the system?

Bernie isn't going to change the system for shit, but he's standing up for the rest of us poor fucks who are getting fucked over when the top fuck faces of the entire fucking country make more money than the president?

Shit i'd vote for bernie any day over hilary, she gets PAID by those fuck face .01% to keep the same corrupt systems.

Take a poli sci class you fucking uneducated fucks
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>>672648749
Nah, overall your point is good; the American political system is largely OK. You just missed some stuff and I'm autistic. FDR was probably in the top 3 presidents and those islands were worthless.
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>>672648324
>He would pass absurd executive actions
If a republican like rubio gets elected this term that would be the least of your problems.

>you're a republican and I'm a democrat so we disagree about what "good" is

I have bad news for you, we don't.
Republicans pretend they want to end abortion, but they would never do it, it would cost them the election
Democrats pretend they want to end guns, but they would never do it, it would cost them the election.

Other than that pretty much same party, each one takes care of their donors as you would expect.
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>>672649070
You are the proof that 15 year olds don't really understand math, they just memorize numbers.
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>>672648472
When you're having trouble coming up with an actual argument, just compare your opponent to Hitler. It doesn't matter how obscure or irrelevant the comparison is, as long as it's alarming and not technically libel
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>>672649075
FDR was a socialist, but no one gave him shit, all the past presidents before him tried to do the same thing but was fucked. e.g look at hoover's term
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>>672649300
you;re fucking up my thread with your cancer
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>>672649246
>Have candidate who taps into authoritarian populism like Hitler
>"GODWINS LAW GODWINS LAW GODWINS LAW"
This is how moderate conservatives rallying behind Trump act.

At least /pol/ admits they're voting for new Hitler.
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>>672637271
>>USA is the most functioning political system on earth

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>672649227

Thanks to America's shit tier educational system.
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>>672648679
check out spain. They had elections in 2015.
One party had 30% of the vote, two parties had 20% each and the other 20% was divided between ten or so parties.

They are going to try making a government coaltion work until May, when that fails they have no fucking idea what to do.

In general in multi party systems you get a party that gets 10% of the vote driving 50% of the policy just because it is the only way they have enough votes for quorum.

It gets worse, there are countries where 30% muslim vote is enough to elect a muslim president who immediately passes a set of laws to convert the country into islam. boy does that ever suck
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The only reason Vietnam was lost is because the US had just gotten out of a war and all the dirty fucking hippies protested going into another
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>>672649070
>when 99.99% of population can barely afford anything and work til they die to be still in debt to said .01% is that the system?

This isn't happening, because if it was people would be swinging from trees.
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>>672637271
>USA is the most functioning political system on earth
How can any American even come to that conclusion without being completely brainwashed?
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>>672648574
It takes an act of congress to enact war you fucking moron. Try you fear mongering elsewhere.
>>672648812
It just pisses me off when when worthless fucks like you, try and influence people that Trump is the end of the world.
Bush killed real people by lying, he can't leave the USA for fear of being arrested for war crimes.
You are a shill, you lost the argument and went right to ad hominem attacks. I'm sorry I ever wasted the time to try civility.
Fuck you, you plastic person. I hope niggers with AIDS rape your whole fucking family. All you're doing is convincing people to vote for trump.
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>>672649783
The only reason Vietnam was lost was because there was no fucking reason for the US to start a war there and everybody fucking new it.
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>>672641954
How the fuck was that a win? The Commies took the country and we retreated. We literally lost every aspect of that war.
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>>672649893
Source for the conference?
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>>672649893
>It takes an act of congress to enact war you fucking moron. Try you fear mongering elsewhere.

LOL.

Congress hasn't declared an official act of war since WORLD WAR II. Presidents have been doing whatever the fuck they want ever since.
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>>672642792
The fact that you equate 'not two parties' to 'only one party' shows how far the average American is removed from the general idea of a democracy.
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>>672649070
>implying political science makes you smart
Kek
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>>672649902
Actually, we didn't start the war. The Vietnamese and French started it. On top of that, we only lost because our troops were heavily drafted and weren't prepared for that sort of an environment. It was too much to take without being properly prepared. It was the precursor to Afghanistan imo.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI4HagtgTPQ
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>>672649585
Butthurt shitskin detected
Enjoy the extremely selective screenings you filthy cockroach
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>>672637271
Fuck the arguments. It's time to hate on europe.
>>672650142
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>>672648574
Let the world burn
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>>672640170
You must not've went to school in the southern states... Ass backward country treats evolutionary theory with as much doubt as they do climate change
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>>672650873
aright, let's go
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>>672649075
Actually I'm not the original poster. You seem very reasonable though.
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>>672651108
Good, these fucked up kids need some religion
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>>672650626
american's really have no shame.

>we didn't start the war
This is true, you just went to south vietnam. stopped the elections, put a puppet president in place, killed that president and then where surprised when war started.
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>>672649300
By today's standards FDR is a socialist, by his day's standards he was just a democrat. The spectrum has skewed conservative in the decades since the great depression.
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>>672650352
Then how did Bernie and Hillary vote for the Iraq war you ignorant piece of shit?
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>>672651772
bernie voted against.

and yeah, congress needs to approve a war, but "military actions" like obama bombing libya (just after getting a novel peace price too) can be done without congress. Boy did that ever work out well for Obama
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